my first time.. went way too far i think...

after nearly 3 years of researching and understanding dmt last aug i finally got off my ass and got some MHRB and did my own extraction.

mind you i am in australia and not the usa or uk.
getting in mhrb can be rather tricky.

anyway on to my story.

my trip report :
me and kris sat on a blanket in my yard among my bonsai trees , it was late and dark , not too dark, around 9 pm.
we loaded up his changa pipe and i took one deep inhale , i became aware of a sense of feeling very light.
i took a second hit and was feeling relaxed but nothing really too exciting , so we went back inside and decided to reload the pipe and go a higher dose of DMT.

sitting back in the yard on the blanket i took in 3 large tokes and then i knew i was gone on the third. in my mind im like..oh my god . the change hit me quick and hard and i went into a bit of shock , i kept saying "oh my god" over and over again, i started to kinda become aware of this change happening within me , everything around me changed , im seeing weird geometrical patterns and colors everywhere around me and they were moving and moving fast, i was fine at this point trying to just relax yet still a little scared. ,then somehow everything changed the structures became more real then everything i was perceiving around me , this frighten me a bit., everything in my field of vision slowly began to transform then slowly i could no longer feel my body , it was getting hard to move , everything continued to change around me then somehow i was no longer in our physical existence , i had gone somewhere else.
im not sure what happened next or how long i was gone but all i remember was kris grabbing me on the arm and yelling at me :" its alright man im here" i couldn't see him but could feel him grabbing my arm , all around me it was like milky white with more unreal colors i have never seen before , it seamed so full of intelligence and love , some kind of superficial light. i can remember i was sitting in a train going somewhere , the rest of the encounter i cannot remember it , but damn it seamed like i was gone a very long time., then slowly everything faded back into view , the entire backyard was vibrating like shaking ,everything looked like it was made out of diamonds that just seamed out of this world.
As i came out of it nothing made sense in the material world as we know it , kris said i was gone for like 30 seconds , to me it seamed like a hour.
its like time doesn't even exist nor material reality , i do recall that where i went was not physical nor 2 or 3 dimension , it was so weird and difficult to explain in simple words.

he told me lets go for a walk and grabbed me by the arm and pulled me up , at this point i was kinda hysterical thinking about what the fuck just happened and trying to comprehend it all in at once, it was like nothing i ever experienced before in my entire lifetime. i was still seeing weird structures in my visions of highly form geometrical patterns , like sacred geometry.and had no sense of balance what so ever , by time we got to the front door of my house every light seams to be dancing with rainbow colors.
its at this point im directing all my concentration on what the fuck just happened and what i experienced , its like going beyond the astral plane , going beyond what we cant even perceive to be possible , its like the impossible becomes possible.
there was moments where what i was seeing was more real then what we see in real life.
we went for a walk to the park and exchanged our experiences , it seamed i went far beyond what he had ever managed to achieve and was somewhat intruded.
Kris pretty much saw the same geometrical structures that i did , but he didn't go into another realm of existence , when i went out it actually frightened him and he panicked because he has never seen someone go as far as i went.
in the 30 second period i was laying down moving my arms and legs everywhere as if according to him i was reaching out trying to grab something or i was falling. according to him he never seen anyone do this before and this is why he panicked a bit , but then again he never administrated a much larger dose to anyone before.

all i can say is that was one hell of a ride , like exploring consciousness that you never even knew existed.
It was so profound and emotionally moving.approx a hour after Kris left i actually broke down and cried , nothing wrong with a 35 year old grown male going through such a emotional state.
it was like going far beyond a near death experience times a billion , like blasting my mind out of a rocket.

your prob wondering how much i had ? i do not know.. we didnt messure it.. but all up in total i had around 8 puffs...
and yeah it was changa with caapi leaves.

it was when i did 3 massive insane puffs in a row this happened....

my questions...

kris said i was moving like i went into convulsions when i was out in hyperspace...is this ment to happen ?
he said i was kicking my legs and arms everywhere...
is it possible i went into shock ?

when i came out of hyperspace.. it was like waking up from a dream.. the whole backyard was vibrating and everything was made out of diamonds.
then bang.. i could barely even remember it.. all i can remember was something about me being on a train...
is this normal for a dmt trip ?

me being on a train in hyperspace... many say i was on my way to the entities.. is this possible ?

will i remember much more detail next time i go into hyperspace ?
i dont know why but i am very nervous about going there again....

that weird feeling you get in the mind as you take your first puff.... its like all the energy is being drained out of you.. like all the blood being drained from your head.. i hate that.. any way around it ?

i also noticed the more i was tripping the more harder it was to move.. is this ment to happen ?

your time and help appreciated.

Thanks for sharing, it's an incredibly powerful experience and I can relate to a lot of what you say you experienced from DMT.

Originally Posted by baz7

my questions...

kris said i was moving like i went into convulsions when i was out in hyperspace...is this ment to happen ?
he said i was kicking my legs and arms everywhere...
is it possible i went into shock ?

I have not experienced this to my knowledge on DMT and have not witnessed it for the few people that I have been a trip sitter for but I think it's not unheard of. I've read about convulsions more with 5-meo-dmt which is a similar chem so no reason to think it couldn't happen on DMT.

when i came out of hyperspace.. it was like waking up from a dream.. the whole backyard was vibrating and everything was made out of diamonds.
then bang.. i could barely even remember it.. all i can remember was something about me being on a train...
is this normal for a dmt trip ?

me being on a train in hyperspace... many say i was on my way to the entities.. is this possible ?

DMT trips are incredibly fleeting, the short duration, intensity, and abstractness of the trip make it difficult to bring a lot of the trip back to sober consciousness. I generally try and take away a central message from my DMT trips and maybe have a couple mental snapshots that remain past the experience.

I have never experienced a train in hyperspace, I have often felt being propelled at a rapid speed in hyperspace tho. With my few encounters with DMT entities they got on top of me QUICK and either due to the perceived nature or them or how fast they appeared, I didn't perceive any sort of 'waiting' period to meet them. That being said on my first DMT trip, I didn't perceive entities but I felt like something could've resided in that space.

will i remember much more detail next time i go into hyperspace ?
i dont know why but i am very nervous about going there again....

Well, it still remains fleeting for me everytime I do it but I do feel I can flow, twist, bend, shoot, morph, slide, move, whatever you want to call it better in hyperspace better now than my first trip.

That first DMT breakthrough trip is so incredibly rapidly paced, intense, and beautiful that it's difficult to really process it effectively.

For your following trips heed Terrence Mckenna's advice of "Don't give in to astonshinment."

that weird feeling you get in the mind as you take your first puff.... its like all the energy is being drained out of you.. like all the blood being drained from your head.. i hate that.. any way around it ?

I occasionally feel like my brain is emptying a bunch of fluid on the DMT onset but I don't know anyway to prevent that sensation, I find it doesn't occur on every trip though.

i also noticed the more i was tripping the more harder it was to move.. is this ment to happen ?

Yes this is usually my experience with DMT and those that I have trip sat for, seems almost contradictory to what you were saying earlier about convulsions but yah movement becomes harder at higher doses, people I've seen look they are practically sleeping with maybe a groan or slight movement.

Amazing - and good job telling what happened. Hahaha, who wouldn't be a little apprehensive. It's serious stuff. And I haven't gone as far as you. Wow!

Kris really was there for you.

Next day, week(s) - how is it going?

i had a similar experiences last night where i kept saying "OMG OMG" and my friend was next to me kept saying "Dont try to fight it, just go with it, breath" and that helped me relax and get into my trip, when it first came on it was like a bunch of shapes flying towards me then i was in some crazy dimension with colors and geometric patterns. Didnt matter if my eyes were open or closed i would see the same hallucinations and i couldnt move my whole body. It was an amazing experiences