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Old 03-22-2011, 01:47 AM   #1
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The goings on in Libya
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I'd just like to know a few things:

How many countries now are involved over there? I mean seriously, are we in WWIII yet or what!?
What's this all about again? The dang crazy news people be always changin the story!
Do you think there might be a draft due to our military being stretched too thin?
If there is a draft, do you think anyone will protest?.... or go to canada

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Old 03-22-2011, 02:19 AM   #2
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Is this WW III?
- No, not even close. The US will probably just set some fires then steal their oil. Also, WW III will not be fought with planes and jets. It will be fought with a few buttons.

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What exactly is going on?
- A bunch of countries are trying to force the leader to step down, give up power, and leave. He doesn't want to so he's putting up a fight.

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Will there be a draft?
- No, of course not. Not now anyways. Once your country's resources start to diminish even further though, there will be a draft as a means to lower the population a little, at which time a fake war will be created and men and women and closeted homosexuals will go and die for nothing (unless you count oil).
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Old 03-23-2011, 05:26 PM   #3
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Ok, makes sense. And I heard this started because Ghaddafi was killing his own people?
I also heard that he has biological weapons which is why nobody is sending in ground support
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Ok, makes sense. And I heard this started because Ghaddafi was killing his own people?
I also heard that he has biological weapons which is why nobody is sending in ground support
We heard those same claims before we started a preemptive war in Iraq. It appears they were both started for the same reason. Banking

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Kenneth Schortgen Jr, writing on Examiner.com, noted that "[s]ix months before the US moved into Iraq to take down Saddam Hussein, the oil nation had made the move to accept euros instead of dollars for oil, and this became a threat to the global dominance of the dollar as the reserve currency, and its dominion as the petrodollar."

According to a Russian article titled "Bombing of Libya - Punishment for Ghaddafi for His Attempt to Refuse US Dollar", Gaddafi made a similarly bold move: he initiated a movement to refuse the dollar and the euro, and called on Arab and African nations to use a new currency instead, the gold dinar. Gaddafi suggested establishing a united African continent, with its 200 million people using this single currency.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD14Ak02.html

Something you probably didn't know about the citizens of Libya:

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[Libyans] are entitled to free treatment, and their hospitals provide the best in the world of medical equipment. Education in Libya is free, capable young people have the opportunity to study abroad at government expense. When marrying, young couples receive 60,000 Libyan dinars (about 50,000 US dollars) of financial assistance. Non-interest state loans and as practice shows, undated. Due to government subsidies the price of cars is much lower than in Europe, and they are affordable for every family. Gasoline and bread cost a penny, no taxes for those who are engaged in agriculture. The Libyan people are quiet and peaceful, are not inclined to drink, and are very religious.

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NATO bombed my country, too.
Is there an interest that is worth a child's life.

Milosevic was not here, we and our children were been here.
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NATO bombed my country, too.
Is there an interest that is worth a child's life.

Milosevic was not here, we and our children were been here.
I think maybe the UN didnt give 2 shits about anyone there nearly as much as it was concerned with the large Uranium deposits perhaps?

Not certain of it, but it was one of the reasons I'd heard of as being the motivational factor for going in, just ensuring whoever was in control of these deposits were our "allies" (We have to use quotes when using the term "allies" these days it seems according to Wikileaks at least. )
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I'd just like to know a few things:

How many countries now are involved over there? I mean seriously, are we in WWIII yet or what!?
What's this all about again?
First of all stop listening to the news. We're better of being left in the dark instead of hearing the propoganda and lies we get told.

Second, Lybia's natural resources and GDP explain why this is going on.

Real GDP (2009 est.): $85.04 billion.
GDP per capita (PPP, 2009 est.): $13,400.
Real GDP growth rate (2009 est.): -0.7%.
Natural resources: Petroleum, natural gas, gypsum.
Agriculture: Products--wheat, barley, olives, dates, citrus, vegetables, peanuts, soybeans; cattle; approximately 75% of Libya's food is imported.
Industry: Types--petroleum, food processing, textiles, handicrafts, cement.
Trade: Exports (2009 est.)--$34.24 billion: crude oil, refined petroleum products, natural gas, chemicals. Major markets (2009 est.)--Italy (37.65%), Germany (10.11%), Spain (7.94%), France (8.44%), Switzerland (5.93%), U.S. (5.27%). Imports (2009 est.)--$22.11 billion: machinery, transport equipment, food, manufactured goods, consumer products, semi-finished goods. Major suppliers (2009)--Italy (18.9%), China (10.54%), Turkey (9.92%), Germany (9.78%), Tunisia (5.25%), South Korea (4.02%).
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It's about the same thing all the time, the people of Libya wants to get rid of their leader and he went nuts and is killing his own people. You should not look to this war out of perspective of the USA because all the lands involved there are so because they're part of the UN. Do you know what the UN is?
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It's about the same thing all the time, the people of Libya wants to get rid of their leader and he went nuts and is killing his own people. You should not look to this war out of perspective of the USA because all the lands involved there are so because they're part of the UN. Do you know what the UN is?
Do YOU know what the UN is? And don't give me that league of nations upholding human rights bullshit. You seriously need to educate yourself. You have bought the bullshit of the mainstream media and, personally, I hope you choke to death on it.

An alternative view on the situation in Libya: http://www.bbc5.tv/eyeplayer/video/l...chestrated-cia (I'm not saying that this is the truth but the points shown can be backed with strong evidence).

Also, that website is awesome for all kinds of videos, from science to art to spirituality to politics.

As for World War Three, many would say that this began in 2001 when the US undertook unprecedented lengths of imperial mobilisation. I believe that WWIII is certainly not far off - if not already underway - seeing as China has recently strengthened its ties to Pakistan, Iran, North Korea and other nations who are known to have bad blood with the West. Also, the invasion of Pakistan that is beginning is the first case of a country with nuclear weapons being subject to Western aggression in recent times. Strange how the news doesn't seem to say much about their WMDs as countries that don't have them and aren't developing them (Iran, Iraq) get it plastered all over them.
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