significant other getting restless

[incognegrow]

ok its been over three weeks now and i barely have three inches ... is this right? i have a water farm with a 100 watt hps mini and 2 26/100watt cfl's i just use the gh nutes that came with . i've changed nutes, flushed with plane water, renuted..lol i just made that up. feel free to use my new word ..lol
ahumm, seriously... my girlfriend finally agreed to let me grow but now she's bitchin cause it aint growin fast enough. i tried to explain to her this is my first hydro grow , alot different than my first soil grow...which was terminated early due to uncontrollable circumstances. but anyway, why arent my plants growing ?
i have white stuff everywhere but i dont think its mold, or at least i hope its not...matterfact i'll go take a pic... dont laugh at my dingy i damaged a few leaves trying to strengthen the stem. i did clip the tip of it off and its opened up rather nicely into about three branches

[incognegrow]

pics

[incognegrow]

damn i resized down to 25% and they still came out big as fuk

[rangerdanger]

There are at least 2 things wrong.
Plants don't need nute's for the first 2 weeks of their life, them mild nute's.
And it appears you have water going to a place where there are no roots.

The plant in the pics is so damaged it will never recover. It's pointless to try to "save" it; basically it's already dead.
My suggestion: start over, in soil.
And please, read a grow book. If you had, your plant would be over a foot tall and healthy as fuck.

[meangreen]

Also appears to be a major ph prob,do as Ranger suggested and toss it and try in a good soil.

[incognegrow]

thanks for the info danger, i was just telling my gf that we need to start over in soil and transplant into the water farm. but are you sure my girl is dead its still growing i do take measurements everyday and it seems to be growing like 1/4in a day. roots actually started growing out the top of the plug so i had to cover then up with more hydroton
thanks again

[incognegrow]

i check ph everyday..its at 5.8, like i said its still growing but its just not growing fast enough. i think i got too many nutes . i over filled the res and i think i am not supposed to run the pump nonstop, so i got it set to turn on and off every few hours .i really dont want tostart over right now because i'm still learning . everything is trial and error with bagseed so i'm just playing around and taking notes and measurements .


---"...The plant in the pics is so damaged it will never recover. It's pointless to try to "save" it; basically it's already dead..."
i dont think shes dead look at the new growth. i dont know if you can tell but i see a big difference in yesterdays pic i took

[ekul le chet]

those are some sad looking plants, poor things! lol ;) sorry man but as a few others have said i'd start again, applying the lessons learnt on this grow ;)

they might still be growing, but they look like they've been through it and from what i've read stressing the plants can turn them hermie so cut your losses

also as others have said, start in soil - everything i've read has said its the best medium for new growers, easy to correct mistakes ( over nuted - just flush it out! ). i'm on my 3rd soil grow now and no complaints so far :)

[incognegrow]

ok ok i understand everybodys concern but i dont give up that easily, and i'm stubborn. i cant help it i get it from my stubborn ass mother, sorry.
so, on that note...i clipped the dried out leaves and adjusted the timer on my pump. i get home from work and she grew another half in. and sprouted 2 more branches . so, for the last time i'm not trashing my girl till she dies i dont care if she's hermmie. whats the big deal ayway ? will i not get buzzed from a hermmie?

yes, my next grow i will start in soil but i need to get a few things before i get to use soil , such as lights and ...well ya'll know what kind of stuff. my finances are tight rightnow due to an oil leak and busted air struts on my caddy and i'm not gonna put all that on hold "to get more weed shit"as my girl says. and none of you potheads are gonna back me up when i have to explain things to my her....you wouldnt want to either lemmie tell ya. :eek: lets just say its about time for the demon to come visit this month...some of you younger kids wont understand that.lol

but hey i really do appreciate everybodys input, even if i dont completely agree 100% i still thank you all for taking the time ....damn am i rambling or what? i gotta go roll one

pass...........

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

so r u still feeding them nutes? if so i woudl completely stop for about a week or 2. since its so young the nutes just give them shock! and i woudlnt throw her away either, just an experiment........how close are your lights they shoudl be about 6 - 10 in. away.....and im not too familiar with hydro growing but i thought that you were suppossed to have new water flowing through it 24/7???????thats what i thoght, so i reccomend on running your pump 24/7........go to www.weedtalk.com they will tell you everything you need to know........start a grow thread....b_O420

[incognegrow]

thanks burned, i did actually flush for a week. my res was over full and my girl couldt get enough oxygen. the type of system i have should be on constantly. especially with my plant so young . i was in too much of a hurry and my girl was getting mugged by the nutes being pumped . so i clipped the burned leaves off and am nursing her back to health . i just bought some superthrive, i hear its supposed to destressalize my girl, she's had a ruff childhood. oh yeah feel free to use my new word of the day .

yeah i guess i did have my lights too close i just readjusted them today. and for everybody who cares i just got a bag of Naturize potting soil reg price 8.99 on sale for 4.99 what the hell right? i dripped a seed in when i got home with it , bitch popped out before i could get up this morning . why not drop a sprinkle of superthrive in the water ? i'll take picks tomorrow. i'm smokin right now and i got some chicken so i'll holla at yall lata

oh yeah, i'm getting the stuff i need for my"lighting on a budget" progect
oh oh yeah , i got my screen done . i just used a hanger and some wire i had leftover from my toolbox from when i went to devry. it turned out good so far we'll just have to see what happens . i didnt realize that i kinda made it adjustable ...aahhaa i bet none of you got adjustable screens lol.
i gotta make a new place for mynew seedling in SOIL to keep it seperate from my other girl whos about to go into flowering soon.

maann yall makin my chicken get cold ... peace

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

no prob, glad to see you have over come your problem.......post sum new pix of yor plants....

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

so are they dead or what???? lets see the plants................b_O420

[incognegrow]

ok guys, no new pics . i moved her ...you know trying to make things better for her , but things didnt work like i planned . but i've reconfigured my system and i'm going to make a bubbler system with my storage bins. i can fit 6 pots no problem.
the water farm just doesnt seem to work as good as i thought. too many rocks maybe but this way i put them in smaller pots , put them closer to the nutes and more space for oxygen and more room for bigger air stones .

now , before anyone tells me i should throw her away now let me just explain what i'm doing now .
she's not in good shape right now because i broke one or two of her main roots so i figure i'd see what happens when i put her in the new system . i do, however have two in soil right now . i'm going to wait another week before transplanting those.

...still recovering from a burger cramp. i musta ate about ...hell 8 of them fukers.
dont smoke three blounts while you're bbqing on a holiday ... trust me you'll catch a burger cramp cause you'll forget howmany you already ate...

negrow

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

hahaha lol sounds good..... cant wait to see the new babbies.........

[incognegrow]

ok people , my gf left the digital in the car for a couple days and i just got it back working soi took a pic of my new baby...well actually i passed ownership to my girl and she named it kaya from a bob marley song. my other one i think is too far gone .i figure i'd put her in soil because i think my tap water is too hard for my water farm so its back to soil for me , or at least tilli get one of those damn meters and some flora hard water stuff from gen hy.

[RattyKnatty]

in my opinion way to soon to put the scrog screen on there . u need to start training it for the scrog, u cant just put a screen on there and expect it to turn out to be a scrog.......go to overgrow.com they have all the info in the scrog in there forums (just use search)

[incognegrow]

maybe so but hey look how she's doin now. i had to repot her cause i didnt put enough dirt in the first time ... i know silly me . but she bounced right back without slowing her growth . she's at three weeks right now under 400 watts of compact fluoros 24 7 with one of those big ass floor fans suckin the air out of a wide open closet. she's sittin in a mixture of miracle grow and natralize potting soil and i water with gen hyd flora and a little bit of superthrive. i think the superthrive is whats keepin plant #1 together. now i'm just curious to see how she smokes when its all done. plans for a stealth cabinet are in the works

[incognegrow]

ok the kinda got mixed up. pics 2 3, and 5 are the same plant and 1 and 4 are plant #1

in pic #5 does anyone know the reason for the yellow spots begining to form on the leaves ? i think i solved the problem becausue the new leaves dont seem to be doing it but i did a few things to her and i dont know which one solved the problem.
'oh yeah the dates are wrong on my camera....damn batteries

[ekul le chet]

not sure incognegrow - check http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=&threadid=502075 see if that can help you

have you checked you ph level?

[incognegrow]

ok i havent checked the soil ph yet because i was told the cheap meters dont really work . i have the liquid ph tester but i dont know if i can use this for soil or how. she's lookin pretty good right now though she grew like two more nodes since i took the pic.
the first plant is doing fine since i took her out that damn waterfarm. the water here sucks . i can barely drink it myself i think its too hard. so i'm not going to do anymore hydro till i get one of those reverse osmosis things . i figuer it'll be better in the long run rather than buy bottled water. i gotta pay 25 bucks for it anyway weather i use that much or not so why not clean it osmosically.

[incognegrow]

ok she's at five weeks now . i had to look back on my calander but yeah its five weeks now and she's at 10 inches , i really want to take some clones but i dont want to screw her up. just cleansed the remnants of my last first attempt at hydro. not that its going to be the last time i try to grow dro , i meant the last grow was dro and it failed . now its fresh and sanitary for this one to go in.
any comments , suggestions and observations , hell maybe even some revelations are welcome

[incognegrow]

new pics wk 3 or 4 flowerhttp://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1077/85.jpghttp://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1077/13.jpg

[incognegrow]

ok i think for some reason it didnt load my pics the first time

[bUrNEd_oUt420]

nice.........

[WayfaringStranger]

i read the first two lines of your posts and took a quick galnce at the pics .. . . which is what i do when im drinking, and i made up my mind. thos plants are in a toxic environment. way too early for them to have nutrients. sorry, try again. wait until the plant is established before you try to force feed it. if youre not growing from clones, the first month or so from germination youre not going to see much progress in your field of dreams. its just the begginning, be patient.

[incognegrow]

thanks stranger but maybe you need not respond to posts when you drink , especially if you're not going to read the whole thing . if you notice the first set of pics are done in a waterfarm using gh nutes. if you arent familiar with gh you can still use them for seedlings . that wasnt the problem. i left the pump running nonstop and the nutes skeeted directly onto the plant because at the time i didnt think it would matter. and the hard shitty ass water here doesnt help any. next time i'll just use the 25 cent water from the vending machine at my local market when i decide to brake out the water farm again. this time it better work dammit

the later pics of the bigger plants are in soil i just used the hydroton on the top if the soil to help keep moisture in and a layer on bottom to help drain, and as you can see if you check my gallery they are just fine , for my second but first successfull grow. eventhough its a hermie.
negrow

[LAB RAT]

Check the Ph of bottled water most of the stuff in shops is about 7.5 a bit too high I use a fish tank with a carbon filter it gives me about 6.5-6.8