Bypassing XR on Adderall?

[Weinberg43]

Anyone know how to bypass the time release on the Adderall XR pills?
Thank you

[deadonceagain]

open the capsule and crush the stuff inside,then parachute it

[RxHEAD]

Hey just me on the paranoid side to say if your not tolerant of amphetamines and not ever or currently on, anyway ask if you dont know what your playing with before you go to the playground. It can be a dangerous toy and place.

peace rx

[Weinberg43]

I apreciate your concern, but I feel that I have a good idea of the risks and have this kind of fasination with mind altering substances. That doesnt mean I am free from the risks but I make it a point to know exactly what the risks of being caugt intoxicated, the risks of ODing, and the risks of dependance. Once again it relieves me that people still care about others even though they might "misuse" substances recreationally. One question, what is "parachuting it" ???

[lostblackdog]

Man, I have no idea what "parachuting it" means, but I'm gonna go out on a whim and say it's most likely a slang term for snorting it. A friend of mine gets the adderal xr's and they come in a tablet form, but I'm not really sure if they are xr or if that's just what he thinks they are. A good person to ask would be photogra1 since he is kinda in the pharmacy biz, but I don't know if he would be too stoked about you insuflating (big fancy word for snorting) your meds. If you have capsules, I wouldn't worry with trying to rail that shit (another term for snort) because then you end up with a lot of plastic shards in your nose, and you might start dripping a lil' blood here and there unless you get the kind that has powder inside the capsules... I'll try to provide a lil' illustration so you can visualize what I'm saying:
Capsule #1 with simple loose powder inside a shell - (~ Powder~ ) - That's kinda what it should look like if the parenthesis represent the two caps holding it together

Capsule #2 with Balls containing the medicine inside a shell ( %%% ) there will be a ton of little colored balls inside of a shell, kinda like one of those wooden russian lady things that contain a lot of tinier little russian ladies. Shells within shells, and then you have to really be determined to snort that mess, not to mention you run a high risk of wrecking your sinuses for a while. A friend of mine also used to get those kind of pills, and he snorted them once in my presence... He lost about half of the little balls because they rolled around like nobody's business, and even the half he managed to crush he was disappointed with because they gave him a huge sinus headache that kept him up all night in agony.

As a rule of thumb, you do better to take you meds the way they are meant to be taken rather than snorting them. You'll absorb more of the medicine, as well as save yourself a huge sinus headache later on. If you need any more advice or have questions I'll be happy to help you as much as I can, but I promise you'd be doing yourself more of a favor if you just swallow it... either that or you can try to crush it up and swallow it maybe... the safety really depends on what all drugs you take on a daily basis, in combination with how much of the medicine is in the pill and the physical structure of your body and mind as well as your emotional well-being. Amphetamines in combination with alcohol can lead to amphetamine psychosis and basically people tend to turn into emotional and nervous wrecks as they "come down" from the rush of amphetamines. It's you choice tho bro... good luck!

[deadonceagain]

"parachuting" mean to put it into a capsule and swallow it, a napkin can also be used hence the name

[lostblackdog]

Well I'll be damned! Who says you don't learn something new everyday? That just put this little picture in my mind of a little smiley face hangliding in my esophagus! I don't know if that's what would happen on camera, but it made me chuckle just thinking about it... It'd be cool to make a 3-D art scene with thousands of little parachutes jumping out of B-51 bombers like the D-Day invasion, but down into a huge stomach... I might just have to paint that or something... anyways, thanks for the info!
Peace

[PhotoGra1]

Anyone know how to bypass the time release on the Adderall XR pills?
Thank you

You would have to open the capsule, and remove the coating off the hundreds of small pellets inside. . . it would be VERY tedious. You could just crush them up, thoroughly. I would definately NOT recommend snorting the XR's.

BTW - LostBlackDog - the tablets are not XR. XR only comes as capsules.

[lostblackdog]

Ah... so now I see how they are made... I was kinda wondering if this guy was getting xr's because they do look and taste kinda different going down (he uses a private pharmacy whereas I tend to use CVS because of my insurance plan) Don't hate me tho. 'cause I try to give the apothercary as much business as I can since the evil corporation CVS, isn't quite as friendly or speedy. Either way, his pills are drastically different (anatomically) in comparrison, and we both get the generic brand at either pharmacy. Right now I have the Amphetamine Salts 10 MG TABBRR which have a : -1l0- on one side, and then the: _b_
972
These pills are my personal favorite because I know extactly when I should and shouldn't that it. I the mean time.... I would just say watch your ass man..... you can really fuck youself up on an amphetamine binge, and I would hate to see you have to experience that man.... There's lots of more positive ways to alter you conciousness... believe it or not... there is a breathing method that can make you higher than pot in a mater of seconds, but the choise is your's man.... and I woudn't have it any other way.... take it for wat you believe you identify with man..... that alone is the first sted towards your transformation... Peace~ Namaste Brother!
-Mac

[blazednconfused]

one thing of advice DO NOT snort the little balls inside the capsule. back when i first tried pharms i opened the capsule and snorted them, ouch. it fucked up my nasal cavity for about 3 days and gave me a killer headache. AND it doesnt do shit, you get no sort of energy rush or high because the shit is still inside the little balls. so my advice would be just to open the capsule and swallow them down, they have a real bitter taste but thats what you gotta do. and make sure you get some sleep before you take them. i made the mistake of taking them on an all nighter. i was jittery and i felt like i was tweaking soooo mad, which i probably was. plus, the come down was a total bitch even worse than it normally was. after finally coming down i was so fucking burned out and tired that i slept for nearly 24 hours.

[deadonceagain]

Ah... so now I see how they are made... I was kinda wondering if this guy was getting xr's because they do look and taste kinda different going down (he uses a private pharmacy whereas I tend to use CVS because of my insurance plan) Don't hate me tho. 'cause I try to give the apothercary as much business as I can since the evil corporation CVS, isn't quite as friendly or speedy. Either way, his pills are drastically different (anatomically) in comparrison, and we both get the generic brand at either pharmacy. Right now I have the Amphetamine Salts 10 MG TABBRR which have a : -1l0- on one side, and then the: _b_
972
These pills are my personal favorite because I know extactly when I should and shouldn't that it. I the mean time.... I would just say watch your ass man..... you can really fuck youself up on an amphetamine binge, and I would hate to see you have to experience that man.... There's lots of more positive ways to alter you conciousness... believe it or not... there is a breathing method that can make you higher than pot in a mater of seconds, but the choise is your's man.... and I woudn't have it any other way.... take it for wat you believe you identify with man..... that alone is the first sted towards your transformation... Peace~ Namaste Brother!
-Mac salts are great nothing better then a salt, ive never gottin more fucked up off any other amphetamine

[lostblackdog]

Amphetamines have some great potential for good (like if you need determination when the last thing you want to do is concentrate on something that does not interest you in the least.), but there is a lot of potential for "train wreck" experiences, especially in combination with alcohol. Two years ago my friend snorted a 60mg xr capsule (the ones with the little balls of medicine in them) and then he drank about a quarter of a bottle of my Jose Cuervo (regular size bottle) and he flipped his shit all night. We eventually had to take him to the hospital because he couldn't walk and he kept breaking down and crying everywhere. He was a crawling emotional disaster, although everyone on campus knew him for his positive attitude and persistent optimism even when the shit hit the fan academically or otherwise.

I had to carry him (he only weighed about 100 lbs.) and once we got the the hospital they had to treat a few scrapes on him from falling on the concrete sidewalks, as well as fix my knuckles because I had some gashes from scooping him up off the pavement. All in all, what had been a great night was completely turned into a living hell for my friend and the rest of our lil' group of friends. He had no idea that the adderall-alcohol combo would get the best of him like it did, but I should probably mention that he had been taking adderall since he was very young and he had a very high tolerance to pretty much anything. 60 mgs of adderall xr was his daily norm from his doctor, but for some reason he was into snorting his meds rather than swallowing them all of a sudden, and I believe that a lot of his pain that night came from either his method of ingestion or it was the adderall-tequilla combo. I have personally been through a night similar to that only once when I first started taking adderall, but I was an alcoholic- as was my friend who I mentioned. We both drank a 750ml bottle of Jack Daniels every friday and/or saturday if we had any left over. Not a bottle to share between the two of us, but a bottle a piece because his dad would give it to us each weekend. Needless to say, both of us had a very high alcohol tolerance, but neither of us had encountered "the beast" (the terrible trip of guilt and worthlessness that I was talking about earlier) until we had snorted adderall rather than swallowing it. Yes, even I was curious about snorting my adderall once upon a time, and quite frankly I didn't really care for it that much because I got all jittery and I couldn't paint a straight line on account of my hands shaking.

In conclusion, I'll just say be careful with adderall and drinking. I can't recall any other low in my life that is worse than the hell I experienced by snorting adderall and drinking a moderate amount (not too much ironically) and then feeling like I was the source of all that was wrong in the world. I don't know exactly why it happened, and maybe a pharmacologist or a pharmacists can shed some light oh it (photgra1, I would love your input if you have any clue!), but either way it was a disaster of a night and I unintentionally hurt a lot of my friends through my own irresponsibility (so in a way I was the source of what was wrong with that night, and that just added on to the guilt factor). I wish people would document drug experiences under certain conditions with common chemicals like pot and alcohol. Just because you can drink in college or when you turn 21, whichever comes first, that doesn't mean that it's harmless in combination with other drugs/meds. Anyways, that's just my experience and my late best friend's. I honestly hope none of you ever have an experience like that... It was shear and utter hell beyond any "bad trip" experience I have ever had... Gah.... it just sucks m'kay? :) Anyways, I'm out like the fat kid in dodgeball...

Peace

[deadonceagain]

yeah my firend OD on 160mg of adderall and like 17 beers(he drank the beers earlyer that day he was sober when he took the adderall) he didnt go to the hospital i dont know how he is alive he said hes face was white his lips where blue he was shaking so much he couldnt stand and his pulse was over 170 he some how stuck out for 4 hours like that and didnt die. I used speed for like 2 years and never had a problem i never drank on it, but i use to smoke pot when i came down i had to stop becasue my body was so shot from taking so much speed, the last time i did it i did a three day binge like 120mg a day plus 40mg snorted, the last day i was over a railing sweating i felt like it was 200 degress outside, my stomich was doing filps and i felt dizzy after that i said fuck it no more. I havent tuched it sence that was like a year ago,after that i started doing coke and getting panic attacks from it, i did like 7 line in about a hour and i was huging my friend crying for no reason so i did more i did another 2 lines then was fine i did like a gram that night and the next day i had a panic attack again,i couldnt do stimulants for a while even coffee becasue i think back to how i felt on coke and speed and i just couldnt take it,im fine now those i had to quit weed from the panic attacks because i smoked while i had penomia(sorry about spelling) and had a realy hard time breathing but im starting again soon cause i havent had a panic attack in 4 months and there not caused by another disorder so i dont have to worry about that going crazy from smoking pot bullshit,and all this shit came from to much speed and coke i ended up in the hospital a couple times from panic attacks

[lostblackdog]

Damn man! Not to undermine your story or your experience by any means, but are you really 16? I honestly don't mean to offend you or anything by asking that, but I am trying to create a hypothesis for a research project involving the "drug culture" in relation to age and social conditions (if you live in an urban or rural environment, income of self or guardians or both, just a lot of social factors). I really don't want to use survey data for my project, but for my hypothesis I pretty much don't have a choice unfortunately. Everything will be kept strictly confidential (i.e. I ain't gonna rat on ya or anything! ;) ), and hopefully I can create a project that will give the "drug culture" some ammo to fight the war on drugs with.

Anyways, it sounds like you have had some pretty scary experiences with "uppers" man... I personally know a good bit about panic attacks (I have terrible anxiety underneath my locks), and in my experience a little cannabis sativa typically uplifts me whereas cannabis indica just makes me a nervous wreck. Different people have different reactions to different types of cannabis though, but maybe you'll find that one is better than the other. I've always been very intrigued by the variety of factors that play on the perceptual "high" I get from different strains, so now I pretty much won't even smoke really good bud unless the conditions are just right with my body and my mind. My friends have lots of money, so that's pretty much all they get and they offer it to me like it's water, but I turn it down 90% of the time because I know what it will do to me. However, they pretty much help me with my supply because I get more for less, and although it's not usually as "knock you on your ass, one hit n' quit shit" as their's is, there's just something about being able to roll a blunt with it and pass it around that they like. It's like when you go to someone's house and they feed you... we feed all of our friends, but lately I've been very distant from smoking because of personal reasons... Sometimes I have to take a "spiritual sebaticle" in order to have some foundation in my life, but sometimes it's through fasting from things that we gain the highest high of all I believe... at least that's what works for me, right? :)
Peace

[Weinberg43]

Amphetamines are very scary but when I need to concentrate they rock. The kid gave me seven 25mg XR's for a can of dip. But I know you guys dont care about that because it is my business so I shall leave iwth saying one(1) thing....
I have decided to just take them normally, even though I am not perscribed nor do I have ADD.
One more thing, Im on 50mg right now. I prefer taking them normally because it lasts over the day... Even if the effects are a little weaker, Alot weaker. Oh well
Thank you for all of the commoents. And good luck with your ammo LostBlackDog. I refuse to smoke cannabis because I want to eventually legalize it and when the reporters or haters ask "have you ever smoked marijuana?" I can honestly answer "No" And free all of the recreational users of a plant from the hell of fear and encagement

[deadonceagain]

Damn man! Not to undermine your story or your experience by any means, but are you really 16? I honestly don't mean to offend you or anything by asking that, but I am trying to create a hypothesis for a research project involving the "drug culture" in relation to age and social conditions (if you live in an urban or rural environment, income of self or guardians or both, just a lot of social factors). I really don't want to use survey data for my project, but for my hypothesis I pretty much don't have a choice unfortunately. Everything will be kept strictly confidential (i.e. I ain't gonna rat on ya or anything! ;) ), and hopefully I can create a project that will give the "drug culture" some ammo to fight the war on drugs with.

Anyways, it sounds like you have had some pretty scary experiences with "uppers" man... I personally know a good bit about panic attacks (I have terrible anxiety underneath my locks), and in my experience a little cannabis sativa typically uplifts me whereas cannabis indica just makes me a nervous wreck. Different people have different reactions to different types of cannabis though, but maybe you'll find that one is better than the other. I've always been very intrigued by the variety of factors that play on the perceptual "high" I get from different strains, so now I pretty much won't even smoke really good bud unless the conditions are just right with my body and my mind. My friends have lots of money, so that's pretty much all they get and they offer it to me like it's water, but I turn it down 90% of the time because I know what it will do to me. However, they pretty much help me with my supply because I get more for less, and although it's not usually as "knock you on your ass, one hit n' quit shit" as their's is, there's just something about being able to roll a blunt with it and pass it around that they like. It's like when you go to someone's house and they feed you... we feed all of our friends, but lately I've been very distant from smoking because of personal reasons... Sometimes I have to take a "spiritual sebaticle" in order to have some foundation in my life, but sometimes it's through fasting from things that we gain the highest high of all I believe... at least that's what works for me, right? :)
Peaceyeah im realy 16 weird part is i was doing speed almost a year befor i ever got high, and i smoked weed a year befor i ever got drunk. I did speed casue it was easy to get all i needed to do was make friends with a kid who had ADD and bingo my firend jay had it bad he was on 25mg adderall so he would give 8 every time i saw him which was like every saturday we chilled, i never had to pay money and never worryed i would go dry,then my other firend started getting salt and coke, i didnt do coke but the salt i did, then once i quit speed i started doing coke but stoped because the shit cost to much money and my firend turned into a huge coke head i didnt want to hang out with him, i once hadnt seen him for like 3 months,but i wanted some weed so i went to his house to get some the coke dealer was there he had a rock the size of a baseball my firend looked horrible and did like 5 lines and i was only there for like 3 mintues,he finlay stoped and now we chill everyday. Socal facter where weird becasue neither of use had money so its not like we are some rich kids getting fucked up on coke and neither off use where poor either so it wasnt like the stero type black urban crack 80's stuff,i just think i was a time in life to experiment i was doing stimulants becasue i could write faster(im a wirter) and my thoughts where clearer and i felt great too,same thing with my friend he wanted to know what coke was like only he liked it more then me he ended up pawning half his shit but both of use finaly realized we took ti to far and stoped,i think it has to do with age mostly and finding otu what life is all about, ive experimented with alot of things sprituality,drugs,lifestyle,sexuality(no i am not gay), and becasue of this i know who i am as a person what i want from life and to do with my life and my life style i mean i dont have everything thought out and explaned but at lest i have a direction and spriuality
well the only thing im worryed about with weed is that new youll go crazy form smoking weed thing i have anxeity issues which arnt connected to another disorder bascily i had extemly bad health for a peroid of time which turned in to emotional problem bescause i was sick for a year stright had had surgary, which turned in to anxeity now that my health is improving and so its my emotional state (slow but defitinly better)i stoped smoking because of lung problems i had penomia for like 2 months and post nasal drip for 6 months it was so bad that i would cough up flem for three day after i took one bong rip,now thats better too but i want to hold off untill im 100% again i dont want to mess up my progress, you should do drugs unless your are 100% happy and healthy

[oldmanjk]

After reading through this thread I noticed a few pieces of psuedo-knowledge thrown around a little too liberally. Just figured I'd clarify a few things just in case someone bases a (potentially harmful) decision on it.

Okay, quick answer to the original post: to turn an Adderall XR into an Adderall SR (standard release), the easiest way to do it is to open up the capsule (and no, XR does not come in tablet form), carefully dump the beads onto a piece of paper, crush them up completely (a spoon or other flat-ish object works well), make a crease down the middle of the paper to form a sort of funnel, and dump the contents back into the capsule. Swallow and enjoy. DO NOT SWALLOW THE BEADS STRAIGHT. The reason they were put in a capsule in the first place is so that they can make it to your stomach safely. The beads are time release, not the capsule. So not only are you not doing anything different by swallowing the beads, but you run the risk of individual beads sticking to the inside of your throat where they have a high chance of burning holes in the lining. Don't snort the beads either!!! They're time release for God's sake!! What were you planning on doing, leaving a bunch of beads in your nose for upwards of 10 hours? That said, if you've carefully crushed the beads up, it's more-or-less safe to snort it. As with snorting most substances, you are damaging your nasal passage and thus shouldn't make a habit of it, and if it's your first time, it's probably going to be a pretty painful experience.
Just in case someone decides to compensate the dosage based on the method of intake (eating vs. snorting), you don't LOSE drugs from snorting them, you actually are going to end up with a significantly higher amount in the bloodstream (given you don't let any of those beads roll away =:-)). Ingestion is actually the LEAST effecient form of drug intake. The reason for this is that your stomach breaks down quite a bit of the drug before sending it to your liver which breaks down even more and THEN it gets sent to your bloodstream. When you snort, smoke, or shoot, you're pretty much getting the drug straight into your bloodstream. So in order of efficiency, from best to worst, you have shooting, snorting, (arguably smoking then eating).
Unfortunately my boss needs me so I might have to continue this later =:-)

[Kamikaze]

does parachuting work just as good as crushing up the beads and snorting it?

[StonerBill]

weinberg you cant really fight for something you dont know about lol, but its a nice sentiment anyway

at any rate, i suggest parachuting. its completely differnet to snorting it kamikaze, as youd realise if you read the post directly above you.

stomach destroy some... but your nose doesnt absorb it all, at least when snorting meds. every snorted a bunch of meds and scraped the inside of your nose? a lot of shit will be in there. a certain amound of the drug gets supended in your boogers and such and isnt absorbed, at least straight away.

the only way to get it all is injecting it.