More weed now? or in the 1960's

[HappyGrass1]

Do you think weed is more popular in preasnt times or in the late 60's/early 70's

...please post reply...

[Mui]

now definitely... and the weed is a shit load better, too..

[psychoactive321]

now definitely... and the weed is a shit load better, too..
I dont happen to be old enough to be from the 60s but i dont know if that is entirely true. alot of the grass around today is just dirt unless u wanna pay upwards of 40-50 an 8th. at least in florida that is

[deadonceagain]

i think its always been about the same look at back in the 20's with all the jazz muscians use to smoke in the 50's deadniks and i dont think weed is better either i just think its more excepted in todays culture because now everyone who grew up in the 60's are now adults and they use to smoke its not like back in the 60's where there parents thought weed was evil or back in the 20's when they thought only blacks and mexican smoked weed(not being racesest but they used to use mexicans as a reason to ban weed)bascily now smoking is excepted more by non smokers even they dont smoke they think weed is evil or as evil(i have run into some realy dumb people on this subject)

[Mui]

weed is better now than it was in the 60s... it tis fact... even the schwag is better than it was back than...

[element7]

More plentiful, more potent, just as soulful an experience...?????????? Maybe to some. It's quickly becoming like another plastic toy maybe. I d/k.

[geckopelli]

Weed is only better nowdays when comparing street bags. Back when, a bag of commercial mex consisted of males, and female (buds and leaves) plants.
The same bag today would be female buds only.
But bud for bud, it was close.

And specialty weed WAS all buds and WAS as good or BETTER than the best weed coming out of the seed banks.

But the 70's was the hey day for weed- quality and quanity.

A couple of us would split a joint of Santa Marta Gold before school and still have a buzz when the 3 o'clock bell rang. Weed nowdays doesn't have that kind of staying power.

As for quanity- I've seen 50,000+ TONS in one place in Miami back in the late 70's and early 80's, many times, and I doubt there's anyone in the US or europe holding that kind of quanity these days.

[Mui]

we used to h ave this person we called the drug lady give us drug education at somepoint in school and you'd go to her and talk to her about all the drugs you wanted to... she taught me a lot about sh rooms and e... she told me weed is much more potent nowndays than it was back in the 60's and 70's.

[element7]

Well if you're talking about just your average homegrown schwag, no it hasn't changed in a few millenia, it's still the same plant. More advanced growing techiniques, you betcha.

[geckopelli]

All those advanced growing techniques, and still, no one can beat a thai stick, circa 1977!

Mui,
I'm afraid the drug lady wasn't as credible as you thought.

[Mui]

All those advanced growing techniques, and still, no one can beat a thai stick, circa 1977!

Mui,
I'm afraid the drug lady wasn't as credible as you thought.No, she was right... weed is more potent now than in the 70's... why would we be talking about schwag only... the nug of today is so much better than anything hippies would have smoked

[element7]

Drug lady just knew what the hell she was talking about whether she knew it or not. Reason being is that advances in studies of aero have produced a variety of tangents. Get ma drift ;). When we can take something and scope it 1000000x and observe respiration firsthand it suddenly becomes a whole new ball game. Trust me man. There were hippy scientists wishing they had this tech at that time and it would blow their fuggin mind!

[geckopelli]

You're wrong. And I'm not talking swag.

The stuff today is no better, if as good, as many types of weed that were available back when.

Your drug lady must of had lousy connections!

I was there- and here.

Only the very best today compares (compares- not supasses) with some acolpulco gold, or thai stick, or top flight jamaican, or micohocan, or santa marta gold, or senegelese thunderfuck, or "black african" (not really black), or vietnamese. Or many others NATURAL sub-species.

And yes, I've smoked most of the designer buds out there- and grown more than my share, too.

Weed today is generic and has little character; ever trip off weed?
Not today, that's for sure.

[jo_k_er_man]

geckopelli is true... well for the most part... there is no real difference in potentcy of marijuana now than back in the 60s and 70s... its just propaganda that trys to tell people that marijuana is more powerful(harmful by government standards) now than it was back then... there has been research done... and the last time i saw the facts there was less than a 1% difference in THC levels of marijuana from the 60/70's and today... but i believe there is waaaaay more marijuana now than back then.... more people grow it.. mexico still pounds it across the line.... and now canada brings alot of marijuana to the us... so definately more marijuana now than back then

[Mui]

new extremely potent hybrid strains havent even existed for the past 10 years

[deadonceagain]

geckopelli is true... well for the most part... there is no real difference in potentcy of marijuana now than back in the 60s and 70s... its just propaganda that trys to tell people that marijuana is more powerful(harmful by government standards) now than it was back then... there has been research done... and the last time i saw the facts there was less than a 1% difference in THC levels of marijuana from the 60/70's and today... but i believe there is waaaaay more marijuana now than back then.... more people grow it.. mexico still pounds it across the line.... and now canada brings alot of marijuana to the us... so definately more marijuana now than back thenyeah i know a guy who has been smoking for 30 plus years and he says that weed is the same as it use to be in the 70's there are probly more strands now and more ways of growing it but over all its not that much better take the type bud with the most THC in it its still not insanly high havent ever seen anyone trip balls off weed

[Mui]

havent ever seen anyone trip balls off weedI have a few times... one of my friends claims he hallucinated off of it once :D

[deadonceagain]

I have a few times... one of my friends claims he hallucinated off of it once :Derr i dont think you know what tripping balls means hallucinate is shit comparted to triping balls is like level 4 salvia.people have hullcainated off weed but nothing insane well more like mistaking some thing for something else weeds not that intence

[element7]

I d/k about 'trippng balls' off of weed but yeah I've smoked some that was utterly mindblowing in it's effects. One of the runners up to the cup and the dude has been growing for almost 40 years. Thing is he said that his was getting better after lots of experimentation and some advances in growing techniques, biology lab supplies, etc... Thing is, as a generality, no most weed's not more potent, even higher grades, but there are strains out there that are. Just not easy to get or find because those cats are pretty guarded with their shit and generally don't offer it up for 're-sale'. Odds are too they don't have some catchy name, prob just like strain#261 or something.

That hype a little while back from the gov about it being like some crazy % more in THC actually proved bunk anyway, and it was just another propaganda technique to scare the idiot public into believing the 'Marijuana Menace' bs again.

[NatureFreak412]

I kinda think its more now, more people usaully means more weed.

I have heard haggard stories of local hippies going all the way to the florida/alabama line just to get an ounce.

The price of weed hasnt changed either has it? Like a dime back then was still 10 bucks? I have never asked that.

[rangerdanger]

Mmmm thai stick.
The opiated kind.

There was a lot of good smoke throughout the 60's and a lot of junk, just like to-day.

[gottssunfire]

If you listen to the gurus of ganja like eddy lepp, smoke is no better or worse today.

and i'd like to point out that these "highly potent hybrids that have been around for ten years" you're talking about mui nearly led to the nearly complete inbreeding of commercial pot which would've hurt potency a lot.

Read a book about it jackass

[element7]

If you listen to the gurus of ganja like eddy lepp, smoke is no better or worse today.

and i'd like to point out that these "highly potent hybrids that have been around for ten years" you're talking about mui nearly led to the nearly complete inbreeding of commercial pot which would've hurt potency a lot.

Read a book about it jackass OK so I'm not mui so maybe no bones on this but.....
Yeah there's guys like that have a public name and there's folks in the wind, the invisible world so to speak. I know what you're saying about the inbreeding but some folk have better sense than that. Not everyone is motivated by creating bulk/profit. Matter of fact I know some folk who would freak at the idea of their shit getting mixed into some kind of commercial breeding. But, I think geck, joker etc... are about 95% right when it comes to something that's accessable (sp?) to the general public. Even the 'leet might have a hard time, but, it's out there, really.

edt: and for goodness sake, if you're looking to trip, got get some damn shrooms or as mentioned try a salvia flight. Herb is herb, shrooms are shroooms, know what I mean?

christ, I'm baked.

[deadsilence020]

now definitely... and the weed is a shit load better, too..
I disagree with you on the NOW. You see woodstock? Are you fucking kidding me? EVERYONE, loads of people there, just there to smoke pot. People in the suburbs, everyone toked up then. Shit... 6/8 of the world hates the shit now...DARE fags.

And yeah, a hell of alot better now. Weed then only had like 2%thc or sumthin like that, its up to like 30-50% now.

[2cesarewild]

I disagree with you on the NOW. You see woodstock? Are you fucking kidding me? EVERYONE, loads of people there, just there to smoke pot. People in the suburbs, everyone toked up then. Shit... 6/8 of the world hates the shit now...DARE fags.

And yeah, a hell of alot better now. Weed then only had like 2%thc or sumthin like that, its up to like 30-50% now.
What? First of all, people weren't at woodstock just to smoke pot. That statement would be a little more true if you said LSD instead of pot, even still, it was a MUSIC festival, and music was a big part of the lifestyle. Over the years marijuana has become more popular, and more people smoke because of it. I think it's estimated in the US that 45-55 percent of the population smokes weed. The end of your post is ridiculous; there was good weed then too, just not as abundant as it is now.... And BTW, good nugs are like 6-12 percent THC. 30-50% THC is more along the lines of hashish products. Bubble is somewhere around 50-60%, and Jellyhash (the most potent THC product on earth) is in the 70 percent range...

[2cesarewild]

Weed prices have changed obviously, has anyone ever heard of inflation? It's a really advanced concept.. rofl...

[Mui]

I guess I'm wrong... Eh, t hought I heard somewhere about a strain the government developed a lil bit ago that was the most potent to this day... maybe they were just researching it or its some sort of project, i dont know...

I should have asked my father, he would've known better than any damn teacher I ask.

You know I never really trusted that teacher anyway...

[Bikshu]

people may say weed was much more potent 30 years ago, but it is likely she just didnt know about dank stuff until later. I believe the government statistic on weed potency are rigged.

I know some retired growers who quit growing sometime around 1984. They grew high quality sensi and harvested the strongest weed they ever smoked in 1979.

[deadhead123654]

I think it's estimated in the US that 45-55 percent of the population smokes weed.
u misquoted that... maybe 45% of the population has at one time or another tried weed... and even that is a very liberal estimate.. NORML says about 80 Million ppl have tried weed at least once... that does not equal 45-55 percent of the US population

[deadhead123654]

i would say there is prolley the same percentage of the population smoke weed regularly, and there is prolley the same amount of weed per capita... the prices have rose dramaticly tho... not even with normal inflation
like willie nelson on half baked "i remember when a dime cost a dime"

[2cesarewild]

Not everybody who smokes weed will admit it on a survey, so the stats will never be accurate enough.

[deadhead123654]

thats true... there is no real way of knowing wats true and not so stats are almost pointless... obviously some ppl lie to make themselves feel cool that they say they do it and other stoners who are paranoid will not admit to it, so who knos really.. u have a point

[Wetbikerider]

now definitely... and the weed is a shit load better, too.. i agree the quality is better if you have the right conections "but this really have not change much" as far popular not really Pot was smoked more often in the late 60s and 70s places like Florida a ounce of pot was only $25.00 even in late 1970s . you dont find a ounce of pot for $25.00 in florida regardless of the quality today . also getting busted in the 60s and 70s with pot was not much of a crime . now you are screw . in the 60s and 70s in Florida it was standard to have a ounce of pot at a rock concert. Cops minded theyr bissnes outside the concert . NOT ANYMORE!! .

[outlaw immortal]

in the late 60s and 70s places like Florida a ounce of pot was only $25.00 even in late 1970s . you dont find a ounce of pot for $25.00 in florida regardless of the quality today .
thats called inflation

[seancourt]

my friends mom said back in the day in the 70's, she could get 4 fingers high in a plastic bag for 20 bucks, thats like what, an ounce and a half? two? damn thats a lot for 20 bucks, and no weed is not better or worse now, it's all relative, maybe back in the day there wasn't dank bud just floating aorund everywhere like now, but yea it was for sure there

[nananie]

depends on whtas your vieuw on popular...

now its more normal, back then i think it was more unusual to use it so in some people's eyes it was more populair than it is now. know what i mean? it was more special to use it i think, more normal now

[geckopelli]

$10 an OZ in so.cal in the '70s.

$15 for top stuff.

OZs of gold were still $30 in FL through at least '82.

[mynameisjake07]

yes and no, now a days you have these big importers that just want a quick buck and buy the shittyest shit from mexico..... though weed has gotten better the whole nation hasn't necessarly gotten better weed.weed is better now than it was in the 60s... it tis fact... even the schwag is better than it was back than...

[killswitchjd]

same ammount, but we have much better weed as far as i know.

also inflation does cover the cost difference, because as i understood it they only had regs

[skullkidnate]

i think we have more and better weed due to cross-pollinization

[TimeTraveler2043]

i think that like in the 60's weed started & was like just getting to be a big thing. now it's looked at by most normal people as this bad thing... but every smokes it.. i mean ok not everyone but i think there's probably a hell of a lot more people now than then. & for whoever said weed ain't better now.. full of shit. maybe you get dirt where you're at but not me.. i don't get dirt man.

[AncientHippie]

Weed is definitely better now.
We had a song we used to sing:

No stems, no seeds that we don't need
Alcapulco Gold, is bad ass weed.

Stems and seeds were a given.
I guess thats partly why an O was $15
and a QP (quarter pound) was $45.

[T.H. Cammo]

There is no magic way to make higher THC%!!! Selective breeding has been going on for thousands of years. It is more scientific now, but the same genes are swimming in the same pool! Nobody can just create a strain with ridiculously high THC out of thin air, it just doesn't work that way.

Is marijuana (in general) better today? Hell yes it is! At least it appears to be. The fact of the matter is that it is just handled better. Most of the stuff we got in the early 70's, here in Calif., was Mexican Dirt Weed - commercially grown, dried (no cure to speak of) and smuggled without any attempt to preserve the THC content. For example, it was dried in the sun light (a big THC killer) for speed. The quick dry method also made it harsh. No cureing didn't improve the taste any, plus it prevented the other cannabinoids from converting to THC. Better techniques are widely known today but we still get tons of Mexican Dirt Weed, we just call it Schwag or Brickweed nowadays. This stuff really isn't bad if it's handled right! Want proof?
Take some schwag bagseeds and grow them properly, then dry and cure them properly. The difference between your finished product and the original weed will be nothing short of amazing! The seeds maintain the original genes (the potential for greatness) so all the difference in quality - taste, smoothness, potency, etc. is do strictly to the way in which it was handled. Schwag seeds will grow into (at least) middy buds, even if you are half assed in your growing and cureing efforts.
Big commercial growers produce bulk not quality (ever seen a gourmet cafeteria?), always have - always will! Today, we have access to the best seeds; so if you want the best buds grow your own!

[PAX-MAN]

Big commercial growers produce bulk not quality (ever seen a gourmet cafeteria?), always have - always will! Today, we have access to the best seeds; so if you want the best buds grow your own![QUOTE: T.H.CAMMO]
sooooooo true , one thing that commercial growers are doing that just real piss me off, is their tumbling the bud before they sell it, to take off the first layer of THC , for some of the best hash that you can get.
OH!we called schwag, ditchweed

[T.H. Cammo]

It's kind of funny, really, if you have ever seen some of the old "Official Government Statistics" on the potency of marijuana. "Back in the days" they were measuring "typical" marijuana at around 2-4% THC content. These figures were arrived at by testing confiscated shipments (after sitting around in the open air for who knows how long!!!). Excessive light and air makes THC degrade rather rapidly, that is common knowledge now. But back then, who knew or cared? Certainly not the ones drying the weed in the sunlight or smuggleing it in newspaper and burlap! I'm pretty sure that the same weed that tested at 2-4% would have been three times that much (6-12%) if handled and protected properly and tested promptly upon confiscation.

Oh yeah! And porn is a lot better now too, because those old 8mm celluloid movies really sucked - no pun intended!!!

[420greengrower]

I think there is something important that everyone has missed here. The weed that was really good back then came from other countries. Columbia, Venezuala, Africa, China, Phillipines, India (the homeland of indica). These places were exporting weed because they could make money off of America's fattening pocket. Nowdays, really good weed comes from the U.S. (99% of the time). Schwag - Mid grade weed comes from other countries now because that is where it can be grown in bulk, dried in the sun, thrown into bags, sealed and shipped. Think, even the old burnouts on this post have been talkin about the old SATIVAS that creep on you with a really feel good uplifting high. And just because weed has a super high thc content does not make it the best. Besides thc, there are many other cannaboids at work, only these chemicals are hard to study and not much is known about their effects.

[TravisBruner]

the reason they banned weed was a guy told that it caused white woman to want black men...that was im pretty sure about 1937 im not being racis thats the truth. and i deffenatly think that in the 70s weed was more popular...the preppy type kids the rock type kids the nerdy types all kids smoked weed that were in school...there is like 4 people in my school who smoke it and then you had all the fans of the beatles that came from the baby boom era that most probly toked up every now again too so i vote 60s-70s more popular...its just not frowned apon as much now...

[xevan]

My dad payed 20-30 for an oz back in the 70's
I pay 100 and this was for high mids.

cheaper? yes
better? doubt it

mids is mids
shit is shit
chron is chron

if it gets you high WHO CARES!

[salmon4me]

yes and no, now a days you have these big importers that just want a quick buck and buy the shittyest shit from mexico..... though weed has gotten better the whole nation hasn't necessarly gotten better weed.
EXACTLY.

[salmon4me]

And as an FYI I was buying ounces of green weed on San Diego for $30 about 10 years ago. It was $200 a lb., but got cheaper as you went up.

[salmon4me]

And as an FYI I was buying ounces of green weed on San Diego for $30 about 10 years ago. It was $200 a lb., but got cheaper as you went up.

[maddhatter]

i'd say in ten years we'd have to make a decision about this. we gotta look at the cannabis culture from a perspective, rather than just thinking that we smoke more now. i know the weed is stronger, but i'm also pretty sure there's a lot less hippie type people now a days. my dad told me people smoked it back then but usually only once in a while. he says now everyone who smokes it is a pothead, which really isn't true at all, but he just stereotypes everyone who smokes weed as a pothead nowadays.

[The Indy Hippy]

I think it is more popular today thanks to the old hippies who got our generation into the cycle. But I don't think that people today really understand how to use ganja simply because we don't have any massive peace movements in America anymore. An' we all know that good ol' Mary Jane was the first peace inspiration....

[BudBill]

I think it is more popular today thanks to the old hippies who got our generation into the cycle. But I don't think that people today really understand how to use ganja simply because we don't have any massive peace movements in America anymore. An' we all know that good ol' Mary Jane was the first peace inspiration....
Hippies :) The 80's were full of herb my man it has always been a matter of where you live and who you know. 90% of people smoke herb to get high the other 10% lie about it. Herb predates any hippy movement. Its a party favor.

[lune]

The hippie generation sold out and is now making money from the prohibition. Know how to use ganja my ass....

[drugy420]

ok the goverment is geneticlt inhansing it in labs and shit for medical purpases but alot of it gits on the street if u know the right guy and thats why we have the advanced techniques to grow the shit from labs the cant be grown like a normal pot plant and thay will make a normal plan alot beter but thay werent invented for growing a normal plant

[medicalbud]

I just called 2 smokers from the 60s and 70s, I am a late 80s on . Anyways I asked and heres what they felt. Theres alot less clean up to do with the weed today.Weed today needs less tokes for same level of high.

[lune]

Drugy it has nothing to do with hydroponics vs soil etc, it all has to do with the breeding. Any herb can be grown in any way, it's not like theres super-pot out there that needs different specific conditions. Hydroponics do let plants grow faster and yield better, but the quality is actually not as good as soil/organics.

peace.

[medicalbud]

think it is more popular today thanks to the old hippies who got our generation into the cycle. But I don't think that people today really understand how to use ganja simply because we don't have any massive peace movements in America anymore. An' we all know that good ol' Mary Jane was the first peace inspiration....



Um say what?

Before the 60s Pot has many uses that go as far back atleast 5000+ yrs.

No need for a peace movement first , the pot will still work LOL

[The Indy Hippy]

I know that the pot'll still work man. But after havin' listened to a few ol' hippies around my town an' county I've discovered some ways to increase my experience that other cats around here don't know or understand. A lot of it is spiritual as well as mental for me. I'm not tryin' to cause some wide spread argument I'm just speakin' my opinion.

I wouldn't be suprized if pot today gets u higher than it did back then man. But for some smokin' isn't just about gettin' high it's about discovering your inner self man. Maybe I am just a nut who does too much weed an' not enough thinkin' but trust me I still do a lot of thinkin'. If it wasn't 4 in the morning here an' I hadn't been awake since 9 yesterday morning I might try to explain a lil more but that'll have to wait. Peace love an' freedom of the mind man.

[Coral Reefer]

gecko maybe the weed nowdays doesnt get you as high or last as long because you have built up a tolerance. and mui your 21 so you must be an authority on weed form the 60s and 70s. truth is there is no way to know objectively.

[TURQUILA]

i think its always been about the same look at back in the 20's with all the jazz muscians use to smoke in the 50's deadniks and i dont think weed is better either i just think its more excepted in todays culture because now everyone who grew up in the 60's are now adults and they use to smoke its not like back in the 60's where there parents thought weed was evil or back in the 20's when they thought only blacks and mexican smoked weed(not being racesest but they used to use mexicans as a reason to ban weed)bascily now smoking is excepted more by non smokers even they dont smoke they think weed is evil or as evil(i have run into some realy dumb people on this subject)
I'M MEXICAN AND I AGREE, MARIJUANA IS ILLEGAL NOT BECAUSE IT IS HARMFUL BUT BECAUSE OF RACISM EARLY ON, PEOPLE TRY TO HAVE THIS "REEFER MADNESS" MENTALITY AND IT IS SICK. YOU CAN DIE IF YOU TAKE TOO MANY ADVIL BUT NEVER, NEVER HAS SOMEONE PASSED AWAY WITH MARIJUANA BEING THE CAUSE, MARIJUANA IS A MEDITATION FOR ME, THEY TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE WHO SMOKE MARIJUANA LOOK LIKW LOWLIFES IN THE MEDIA, BUT THAT IF FAR FROM THE TRUTH. I LOVE MUSIC, I LOVE ART, I LOVE READING AND I LOVE WRITING, I HAVE NEVER ROBBED ANYONE FOR MONEY TO BUY MARIJUANA, THIS MARIJUANA HYSTERIA HAS TO END. NOW!!!

[Azog 150]

These days though (obviously Im not from the 60's) Weed seems to be a lot more excepted in many sub-cultures and cultures then it used to. It used to be hippies that smoke it (mostly) but now everyone seems to.

[The Indy Hippy]

It isn't that the sub/countercultures ecept it more today it's that society as a whole accepts it more today. I mean look at a lot of the movies now. You've got cats doin' coke smokin' dope an' shootin' up all over the place on TV an' in Holywood.