Do you have a gay lisp?

[Mui]

Just wondering... would be interesting to see the poll results..

I dont... but I do a mighty fine gay lisp impression... for when I want to make someone laugh.

[Snowdancer]

Nope. Not at all. I am training my voice higher but I see no need for a lisp. for that matter now that I think of it I don't remember a lisp in any of the gay or bi people I normally associate with.

[taoflipflower]

how about:
"how many of you have a lisp commonly associated with being camp?"

I know a straight dude with the most camp vocal style ever.

...man i'm a boring one for definitions... :p


p.s. If someone had a 'gay lisp', they might not know about it...

[Ocean Byrd]

Ya, the "gay lisp" isn't restricted to only people who are gay and bi; I've met heterosexuals with a rather questionable lisp before :P.

[Mui]

yea the whole gay lisp thing is pretty much a myth.

[Ocean Byrd]

Ya, but it's often times a good indicator...

[taoflipflower]

but it's often times a good indicator...indeed, some people may fake the cliché gay lisp to broadcast a message

[RainbowCat]

that sucks! none yet!

[Obituary~Birthday]

theres this guy in my school who has kind of a 'gay lisp' and hes the most "kill all faggots" guy around

it'd be funny if he was gay

[Obituary~Birthday]

oh no i multiple posted...a lot

i pressed return about five times to go down a line and it posted it instead:&

[MSman]

Im fairly certain not sure means yes

[rays_of_gay]

yes i do. i can not lie. i am totally a fem queer

[SageDreamer]

I don't hear the lisp much unless someone is putting it on...mostly for comic effect. The pitch and intonation of some gay men's voices seems to be a more likely giveaway.

[Taylor]

indeed, some people may fake the cliché gay lisp to broadcast a message
yeah. I know a guy who puts on a total gay persona... it's generally to broadcast the fact that he's gay... though he doesn't need to do it so much now... he's dating my lecturer :P

[Jes]

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[LOSTBOY7]

Wots A Gay Lisp I Am Bi But Wen I Told A Gay Frend That I Was Bi He Told Me
That He All Ways Thort That Had Some Gay Tendansees Dus That Meen I Have Got One But Dont Know It. Lol

[Owen]

Wots A Gay Lisp I Am Bi But Wen I Told A Gay Frend That I Was Bi He Told Me
That He All Ways Thort That Had Some Gay Tendansees Dus That Meen I Have Got One But Dont Know It. Lol

Thats hilarious...

But seriously when I told my best friend I was gay he was blown away. So I'm pretty sure that its a no from me :)

AND... I know plenty of guys that all talk about girls that definitely have a lisp. I would definitely call a few out if I was interested, but the gay lisp is a 100% turn off for me. Just annoys me for some reason. The weird thing is I have no problem with flamboyant hand gestures and body movements, but for some reason I hate the lisp. Go figure :confused:

[Patrick]

Thats hilarious...

But seriously when I told my best friend I was gay he was blown away. So I'm pretty sure that its a no from me :)

AND... I know plenty of guys that all talk about girls that definitely have a lisp. I would definitely call a few out if I was interested, but the gay lisp is a 100% turn off for me. Just annoys me for some reason. The weird thing is I have no problem with flamboyant hand gestures and body movements, but for some reason I hate the lisp. Go figure :confused:As for myself, I do not have a gay lisp, but I am also not gay but bisexual.
I would agree with you that the gay lisp is a turn off. In fact I would stick my neck out here and go as far as to say that a lot of people probably aren't anti-gay men per se but are really anti-lisping gay men.

[Owen]

a lot of people probably aren't anti-gay men per se but are really anti-lisping gay men.

Yep, i agree with that totally

[DreamerSpirit]

i don't have a lisp but I have a spanish accent, is that the same? lol Hehe... that's more lispy than my rough, hardcore, Bostonian accent. Seriously, whenever I travel out of the region people can tell I'm from Massachusetts as soon as I say somthing.
Sometimes I do this femmy lispy accent when I'm hyper and giddy... but then again, I AM a girl.

[shevek]

I don't hear the lisp much unless someone is putting it on...mostly for comic effect. The pitch and intonation of some gay men's voices seems to be a more likely giveaway.I don't use the "gay lithp" nor do I know of anyone who talks that way except strictly as a joke, but I do sometimes "pitch" my voice in that peculiar singsong fashion when I'm talking to other gays, especially in a gay bar or the like. Any subculture has its own particular expressions and mannerisms, but the "lithp" like the limp wrist is really more of a stereotype put on us by straights who don't know better. In fact many straights are surprised to find out that I'm gay though I'm hardly closeted, and I've even fooled other gay guys on a couple of occasions. In other words I'm gay but I can pass for straight (except in bed of course), and I suspect that's true of most gay guys. The exceptions usually occur when someone is deliberately being outrageous.

Anyway, when I hear the word "lisp" I think of a computer programming language used in artificial intelligence research. Yes, there's a computer language called LISP, and I have no reason to think that its inventor was gay(!) LISP stands quite simply for "LISt Processor" though some wags would say it stands for "Lots of Irritating Silly Parentheses". Computer types are fond of contorted acronyms and obscure puns, and that's a part of THAT particular subculture.

[futanari]

yeah

[Ocean Byrd]

Meh, I have a woman's voice, now; or, at least... I use it, very frequently.

[Bassist]

Ya, the "gay lisp" isn't restricted to only people who are gay and bi; I've met heterosexuals with a rather questionable lisp before :P.
LOL, definately.

[james q]

strange but i've never associated a lisp with being gay. i always think of, howver right or wrong, a prissy, queeny kind of voice that lots of straight men can have these days actually. when i think of lisps i think of cindy brady: the association is to childishness not sexuality. must be an american thing.

[drumminmama]

huh, I have a lisp (straight chica) and slight stutter, so I never associated it with sexuality.
But my queen friends all did their share of Honey, Miss so and so, and this fake Scarlett O'Hara bit, even the nothereastern boys.
Since I do equate a southern thick accent with hickdom and gay bashing good ol boys, I always thought that an odd choice of selected accent and pacing.

Anyway, now the tongue-peirce, if not in the correct position, causes some lisp-like slurring, esp when someone is getting tired. You can speak clearly, but it is extra effort. So how could one generalize anymore?

[IntenseHeat]

Tony Blare is 1 person but then most british talk a bit funny.

[maryjaneguitargurl]

lisps are lisps.. gosh..ron jermey that porn guy or whatever could have a lisp but is he gay? I think not. lol

peace
chickens

[kif]

Jutht what exthactly ith a gay lithp?

[Bassist]

It's so fake, and I feel bad for people that have the natural lisp that's now associated with being gay. Just because there are so many assholes out there...

[melyn]

Tony Blare is 1 person but then most british talk a bit funny.
Tony Blair?? lmao, surly you can't think Tony Blair has a lisp? Let alone a Gay one. But yes we brtish do talk a bit funny, not as funny as you crazy americans though, twisting our beutiful language :D :p

But no, I don't have a gay lisp, perhaps a bi-curious stutter though ;)

[mushie18]

Tony Blair?? lmao, surly you can't think Tony Blair has a lisp? Let alone a Gay one. But yes we brtish do talk a bit funny, not as funny as you crazy americans though, twisting our beutiful language :D :p

But no, I don't have a gay lisp, perhaps a bi-curious stutter though ;)
I love Brittish accents, I don't think you talk funny at all.

[phantastick]

is the gay lisp something that guys work at or is it something that just comes with the territory? i've always wondered if guys just naturally talk that way? peace!

[Zoomie]

Why yes, there are classes at Gay University to make sure they get it right. I hear finals are absolute hell. You have to order Cali-fusion from Rip Taylor without giggling.

Of all the stereotypes, this one is the worst. Well, this and black men have larger penises...

[Bassist]

is the gay lisp something that guys work at or is it something that just comes with the territory? i've always wondered if guys just naturally talk that way? peace!
It's not natural. It's just a really bad stereotype that seems to stand true in many cases...

[Bassist]

There are many gay men without gay lisps, but not many men with gay lisps that aren't gay. If that made any sense.

Well, in all honesty, the gay people that choose to use the lisp "stole" it. (that sounds odd)


That is strange though that the most flamin fags have kind of a prissy femme faggy lisp (hard to describe). They also say "geez", "fabulous", and "silly goose" a lot also. That's because they're faking it.

[hipunk]

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I post at this forum because I thought it was a safe place for Alternative Lifestyles and Queer Culture folks to post. I welcome the exchange of ideas and the chance to share my experiance. Thank you Hip Forums.

Inagodadavita did not post here to exchange an idea; his comments are provocative but exist merely to express hate and bigotry.

"... fags have kind of a prissy femme faggy lisp (hard to describe). They also say "geez", "fabulous", and "silly goose" a lot also. ..."

While I would be the first to uphold a persons right to express an opinion, it's a shame when slurs are confused for opinion. As a guest I am unable to report abuse, like the post by Inagodadavita. And I don't really know what it takes to become a member here, like Inagodadavita.

But the lack of outrage is sad. What if he had said "...niggars have a kind of a stupid, mush-mouth nigger drawl (hard to discribe). They also say "mutha", "fucka", .... You get the idea?

We cringe at the racist. What's stops us from pointing out the homophobe?

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[Bassist]

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I post at this forum because I thought it was a safe place for Alternative Lifestyles and Queer Culture folks to post. I welcome the exchange of ideas and the chance to share my experiance. Thank you Hip Forums.

Inagodadavita did not post here to exchange an idea; his comments are provocative but exist merely to express hate and bigotry.

"... fags have kind of a prissy femme faggy lisp (hard to describe). They also say "geez", "fabulous", and "silly goose" a lot also. ..."

While I would be the first to uphold a persons right to express an opinion, it's a shame when slurs are confused for opinion. As a guest I am unable to report abuse, like the post by Inagodadavita. And I don't really know what it takes to become a member here, like Inagodadavita.

But the lack of outrage is sad. What if he had said "...niggars have a kind of a stupid, mush-mouth nigger drawl (hard to discribe). They also say "mutha", "fucka", .... You get the idea?

We cringe at the racist. What's stops us from pointing out the homophobe?

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I just ignored it.

[white_raven]

I don't have the lisp, and I've never quite understood its origin either. I think a lot of people do it when they come out to "rebel" and be in-your-face where they had been closeted for so long. Personally, I don't consider myself closeted per se, but I also am not going to go around with my sexuality on my sleeve.

I also agree that it's a turn-off. It sends chills down my spine. I value all forms of self-expression, but I just feel like people give out the impression that all gay people are cut from the same feminine mold, when they're not at all. People would have a much harder time hating homosexuality when they can't distinguish gays from straights unless you asked it up-front. They would see their hypocrisy more quickly. It's the same as when black people follow that "gangsta" image just for the sake of it. I mean, if you grew up in that environment, I can see using it, but if you just up and decide to create a fake veneer around yourself, it just seems pathetic to me.

[hailtothekingbaby]

LOL! No, I haven't. I wouldn't know how to do a convincing artificial lisp if I wanted anyway.

One (rather sexy) teacher of mine has though, but he's married and a dad. Well, it suits him nonetheless.

[kif]

I know a guy who acts as straight as an arrow in the general public. Get him into a gay bar and he puts on this act as if he studies Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, "acts" like a total queen. I dont dig the fakeness, why cant people just be real?
But some gay guys naturally act "femme" and have that lisp, its normally pretty easy to tell whos trying and whos being real.

[lovelightlisa]

damn straight i have a gay lisp :rolleyes:

[hipunk]

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A lisp is a lisp is a lisp. Whether you're gay, straight or otherwise, it's the same speech impediment. The gay lisp is nonexistent, as is the straight lisp. The lisp doesn't know from gay or straight. At one time a lisp was thought of as effeminate, and therefore assigned as a homosexual trait. Sad how we hang onto these old stereotypes.

There is a gay vernacular though, a way of talking and a whole language, derived from codes used to keep your sexuality a secret from straight folks. We should all be familiar with keeping secrets. Putting on a guise. Pretending to be something we are not. At some point, how do you know what you really are? You may take offense at an affected lilt or queer turn of a phrase. It may even look down right phony. But who's to say?

The man who stands up straight, knits his brow and keeps his voice low in public and at work may actually be more himself at the gay bar with a limp wrist and arched eyebrow. How can any of us speak for someone else? However, I understand your discomfort. There by the grace of Grace Kelly goes I. But don't protest too loudly. And please don't cling onto your disgust -it looks awful on anyone. A feather boa is much more flattering, especially if the color high-lights your eyes.


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[Closet Kid]

No gay lissssp here sometimes I fake one to piss my brother off though

[jehryn]

I dont have a lisp but there is a tone in my voice that most people can pick out that i'm gay/bi but no one can pick out what it is with my voice. It is really odd.. lol

[CrazybutLazy]

I don't have one (I'm bi). I asked someone I talked to and they said no, although my laugh is kind of wierd.... and girly.

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[CrazybutLazy]

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[jtrudel3]

I sometimes have a bit of a "gay lisp", but not always.

It's funny that way, one time my little brother was telling me that I was "gay" and that I'm just like those "gay guys" Steven and Chris from "So Chic". The funny part was that, unintentionally, I responded with "I am so not like those..." bla bla bla, and "I don't even like their style or the clothes that they...". I went on to critique their show and the outfits they make, and criticize it and compare it to how I like to dress. And then I realized how I was talking, and I just stopped and I was thinking "oh my gosh...". My little brother was staring at me in shock, and he was like "I told you..." It was so funny.

But overall, I don't usually talk with a "gay lisp". I usually pickup different accents: Austrian, Irish, sometimes I talk like a "valley girl", or sometimes with a "gay lisp". It's all good~!!

[luxhombre]

how do u mean by a gay lisp?

[Mental_Breakdown]

I blame the american media for a great deal of stereotyping, after all parents no longer raise their children they just plop them down in front of the TV as some sort of pseudo-role model, and nearly every television show is blatently using stereotypes, if you turn on MTV its all about 'black gang members' and really that makes up such a small portion of the african-american community, but because thats all these kids are seeing thats what they expect whenever they see a black person, same goes with gay people, whenever you see a show with gay people in it, they are the extrodinarily 'femme' gay people, wearing make up and talking with an exagurated lisp. Really whats are future generations supposed to think if thats their only experiance with other cultures/sub-cultures, really the best solution to this would be to balance out the stereotypes with more accurate images of different culturs.

[Ryvr]

Sporadically (sp?) especially when I'm tired, I switch th's and s'es ... usually th -> s, i.e. Asheville, Norse Carolina ... I almost eliminated this phenomenon practicing the tongue twister, "The seething sea ceaceth, it sufficeth sufficiently that the seething sea ceaceth." Though I think that even our straight friends would find they were a little bi if they try repeating that a few times.

[virgo_boy]

What do you mean by lisp? I use to talk high if that is it. I no longer do.

[psyche]

i'm a girl, so this doesn't really apply to me. however, i have noticed a certain percentage of (usually quite butch) dykes i've met say their 's' a little differently as well. it's kind of a variance of a lisp i guess, but sounds different from the gay male lisp you speak of. i'm trying to think of an example...ellen KINDA does it, so does melissa ferrick. does anyone know what i mean?? i'm having trouble describing it. that being said, many of the gay men i know have a lisp, though i'm sure some of them just put it on to get the message across.

[Lanze]

i'm a girl, so this doesn't really apply to me. however, i have noticed a certain percentage of (usually quite butch) dykes i've met say their 's' a little differently as well. it's kind of a variance of a lisp i guess, but sounds different from the gay male lisp you speak of. i'm trying to think of an example...ellen KINDA does it, so does melissa ferrick. does anyone know what i mean?? i'm having trouble describing it. that being said, many of the gay men i know have a lisp, though i'm sure some of them just put it on to get the message across.yeah im sure its natural in some peoples cases but i think in the majority its just because of its the way they think their supposed to act, im pretty sure in canada theres alot less gay men who have lisps. I personally cant stand it, I dont mind being friends with people with lisps but i dont know if id ever date someone who has one.

[VertuHost]

haha stereotypes... Most gay people are not out and cannot be identified. We have stereotypical behaviors at times for other reasons...

Christopher

[erzebet1961]

Do I appear gay ????....back when I was butch , people could look and tell because I fit their mold...but no one knows now unless I tell them

[man001]

yeah!!!!!!!

[EzyRyder]

this thread is so old it makes me want to vomit a little bit on myself.

[Stallion]

Do you have a gay lisp?no ,,, well thort of I mean it dependth what you call a lithp

[SoUlFrEe]

Nope, and all this hand waving and squeaky voices do my head in http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif i hate it when people sterotype as all gays having a lisp and doing the stupid wrist thing. but for me, i think i'd end up running a mile if i had a boyfriend with that...personality.

[twiztidrainbow]

..nope

[mynameiskc]

well, now, i voted no, but i'm a girl. i have a natural tendency to lisp a little when i'm trying to flirt. sometimes it's charming. other times i boom out my opinions like a proper mom. depends on who i'm talking to. but when i'm trying to get into someone's pants, i definitely go all breathy and precious.

[Strangeness]

I dont hvae a gay lisp but I do say some things that make me sound really gay some times

[LJDV]

My voice is kind of high pitched and I hate that, it's not really obvious, but it's still higher than I'd like. No lisp though.

[*Andy*]

I do say some things that make me sound really gay some timesHey who doesn't?

[lunarlight555]

I have a somewhat high voice, but no lisp.

[*~nathan~*]

yes and people make fun of me too

[*~nathan~*]

its not really a lisp but an accent

[hellahellalame]

if i record my voice and play it back..i think i would definately question if i was gay... im sure people do. im one of the kids where people have to keep guessing. im an enigma muahaha

[mdm85]

if i record my voice and play it back..i think i would definately question if i was gay... I'm kind of the same. I think my voice is normal as can be... it's pretty deep. But if I listen to myself on an answering machine or in a video I can have some gay inflections in my voice. I dunno if I do in person or not.

[lostdazedintime]

my voice is all gravely from smoking but the lisp peaks out somtimes.

[bige1030]

I don't have a gay lisp, and I don't think I'd want one, either. I think that people should just be themselves...and if their lisp is normal, well, use it. But if they don't have a lisp, they shouldn't ever get one.

Linguists have found that some gay people "code switch" with the lisp...they don't normally have it, but when with their gay friends, they talk with it. I don't know how I feel about this...perhaps it's okay if it's okay with their friends, but it does seem a bit unnatural to me.

[calisouth]

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[Pussy Boi]

that is a good question. i don't think i have one because i am not feminine. i am not feminine nor masculine. my friends always tell me that i talk with my hands a lot but they never say anything about me sounding or talking gay. i sure hope not. i want to sound normal!!

[Aesthete]

I'd honestly assume most guys here have something resembling a lisp or at least a distinctively gay manner of speaking, whether you realize it or not.

I voted "not sure" because, well, I'm not sure. No one has ever commented on it. And if I did have something, I'm certainly not as bad as some well-known queens at my school. I've never taped myself speaking either. I'd guess it's pretty subtle for me if there at all.

[Aesthete]

that is a good question. i don't think i have one because i am not feminine. i am not feminine nor masculine. my friends always tell me that i talk with my hands a lot but they never say anything about me sounding or talking gay. i sure hope not. i want to sound normal!!
I gesticulate a lot too. Being gay, partly Italian, and from New Jersey, I just can't help it. :p

But seriously... why would you want to sound normal? I mean, I know that a lot of stereotypically gay voices are annoying, but that doesn't cover the whole gamut of them.

[deadpool]

No but i meet plenty of people with it. I dont understand why they do it or how it happens but it bothers the shit outta me

[SenorBong]

Used to. Had to work hard to get rid of that shit.

[yarapario]

So, where did it come from, the lisp? I've heard guys who had what I guess might have been a "Gay Lisp". Whats the difference between a gay or straight lisp? I've heard people affect a "gay lisp", often people who are stereotyping gay speech. You said you worked hard to get rid of yours. Was it always there? Did you learn to use the lisp because "thats the way gay people are supposed to talk" ? Just curious. Thanks, Steve


Used to. Had to work hard to get rid of that shit.

[SenorBong]

Well I'm not gay. I just wandered in and like to here the sound of my typing I suppose.

I worked to rid myself of it to sound more elloquent. (I already sound like I'm from the south)

I picked it up when I was just starting puberty. It was a natural progression, and I didn't have anyone in my family with a lisp. I believe the type of lisp I had was caused by the tip of my tounge protrouding a bit.

It's called an 'interdental' lisp because of that.

[tonoe]

nope many people say that i dont sound gay

[Michaeltuga]

Sorry guys but what means lisp?:)

[yarapario]

someone else can probably explain this better but, a lisp is a speech impediment wherein the "S" & "Z" sounds are exagerated and somewhat "wet" sounding more like a "TH" sound. Sometimes little kids have lisp which they out grow. For some reason gay people are stereotyped as lisping in their speech. I don't know if this will make sense to someone whose first language is not English. My youngest son's first language is Spanish, for a while, as he was learning English, he had a lisp.

[Michaeltuga]

ouhhh i understand better now;)Ty
We here in Portugal say "sopinha de massa", i dont have it, but i talk a bit quicky and i gesticulate my hands when i talk to someone:)

[lostdazedintime]

I know some gay dudes that talk hella lispy, but it isnt just a lisp, theres somthing else to it... met straight dudes that talk that way though.

[calisouth]

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[Aesthete]

I'd honestly assume most guys here have something resembling a lisp or at least a distinctively gay manner of speaking, whether you realize it or not.

I voted "not sure" because, well, I'm not sure. No one has ever commented on it. And if I did have something, I'm certainly not as bad as some well-known queens at my school. I've never taped myself speaking either. I'd guess it's pretty subtle for me if there at all.
I recently got the opportunity to listen to my voice recorded. I'm currently borrowing this audio recorder. I find that I sound different from how I thought I sounded, and not in a good way. :/

I wish I had a lisp. This one guy in one of my classes has a perfect one. But he's also a conservative Christian, so I think that's the source of his closetedness. He's kind of cute, too.

[Aesthete]

And yes, I'm stereotyping. But this "stereotype" has grounds in reality. Though it's a generality (so some gay guys don't do it; some genuinely straight guys do), feminine speech characteristics in males is often indicative of homosexuality. Not only is sexual orientation in your voice, but in your mannerisms, gait, emotional sensitivity, approach to conflict resolution, etc. That this is true is actually almost evident a priori, as if you believe that homosexuality comes from the structure and function of the brain, then it's unreasonable to believe that the only thing affected is sexual preference.

[barefootbob1]

I don't have one and guys who do, drive me nuts. It's so annoying. Knock it off!!!

[lonly&hurt]

hey im developing one...its pretty funny when im tryuing not to talk like it and it just comes out....especially in front of my parents.......mom yells at me saying "dont act like a fag!"......she pisses me off...my stepdad is worse though