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LSDSeeker
04-17-2005, 06:13 AM
Honestly, I don't see what the big deal about marijuana is. If anything, the prohibitionist attitude makes kids want to use more marijuana.

In Amsterdam I smoked a couple of bowls of pot mixed with hash, and the effect was minimal. I even ate a whole cake with 1 gram of hash, and all it did was give me a slight buzz. And no, I don't smoke weed very often. Alcohol has given me much stronger effects.

I remember in high school the way marijuana was vilified. For Christ's sake, it's just a plant, and a pretty mild one at that.

In high school I remember taking some "krippy" -- hydroponically grown stuff -- and seeing trails, but that's the last time I ever had any really strong effects. Smoking with an ex upon her insistence temporarily wasted my memory, but alcohol is no less intoxicating given sufficient amounts.

My view is that marijuana is way overrated and that it should be legal, just like alcohol.

In fact, they should drop the minimum age requirement for alcohol: if at 18 you can marry, pay taxes, and fight in the armed forces, why can't you buy a beer?

Scholar_Warrior
04-17-2005, 06:17 AM
Amen brother! Er, um, or sister. ( I didn't notice which)

The thing you apparently have not considered is that laws are not made to benefit the masses, but rather to benefit the few power possessing beings "at the top" so to speak. The ones who make the laws are not really bound by them.

humandraydel
04-17-2005, 06:27 AM
if at 18 you can marry, pay taxes, and fight in the armed forces, why can't you buy a beer?
You used to be able to...

But you're right, marijuana is far less intoxicating than alcohol...

OnDemand
04-18-2005, 08:42 PM
Yea but weed has better after effects for me then beer.

element7
04-18-2005, 10:53 PM
Observation that the alcohol industry is one of the biggest opposition to decrim/legalization of Marijuana. Gee wonder why?

seamonster66
04-18-2005, 10:57 PM
quote: Observation that the alcohol industry is one of the biggest opposition to decrim/legalization of Marijuana. Gee wonder why?

Beats the hell out of me, the two go so well together

deadonceagain
04-18-2005, 11:08 PM
i got a lot bigger effects form weed then booz, booz i get stupid and dizzy thats it, weed my thoughs are crazy i get creative and my reality changes kind of dreamy the effects are alot more visonary then stupid

Skoozy
04-19-2005, 04:03 PM
Honestly, I don't see what the big deal about marijuana is. If anything, the prohibitionist attitude makes kids want to use more marijuana.

In Amsterdam I smoked a couple of bowls of pot mixed with hash, and the effect was minimal. I even ate a whole cake with 1 gram of hash, and all it did was give me a slight buzz. And no, I don't smoke weed very often. Alcohol has given me much stronger effects.

I remember in high school the way marijuana was vilified. For Christ's sake, it's just a plant, and a pretty mild one at that.

In high school I remember taking some "krippy" -- hydroponically grown stuff -- and seeing trails, but that's the last time I ever had any really strong effects. Smoking with an ex upon her insistence temporarily wasted my memory, but alcohol is no less intoxicating given sufficient amounts.

My view is that marijuana is way overrated and that it should be legal, just like alcohol.

In fact, they should drop the minimum age requirement for alcohol: if at 18 you can marry, pay taxes, and fight in the armed forces, why can't you buy a beer?

I agree.. I smoke pot because it has a mild effect.. I can function on it normally and no one has a clue.. Where as, if I ate mushrooms or drank tequila, I'd get fired..

If I was allowed to make the laws,, I'd lower the drinking back to 18, Like it was when I was a kid.. BUT, I would raise the driving age to 21 - Unless you were employed, a student, or the only liscensed driver in your household..

StonerBill
04-19-2005, 04:10 PM
dont you think most people would fall under the latter case?

StonerBill
04-19-2005, 04:11 PM
in fact dont you think most people would fall into any or all of the three cases between being 18 and 21?

Skoozy
04-19-2005, 04:17 PM
The point being.. It would cut down on the 15 to 21 year old element that are young and dumb.. The only one under 21 allowed behind the wheel would have a degree of responsibility to them because they are a student or holding down a job....

LSDSeeker
04-19-2005, 08:25 PM
Observation that the alcohol industry is one of the biggest opposition to decrim/legalization of Marijuana. Gee wonder why?The reason for this is because the prohibitionist attitude toward alcohol persists very subtly in the U.S. For example, in the U.S. there are still laws which limit at what hours one can buy alcohol. In other countries this is not the case.

Because alcohol is considered a drug and, like marijuana, has been vilified by anti-drug and alcohol restrictionist activists, companies selling alcoholic drinks have tried to distance themselves from other drugs by pointing out the supposed absurdity of comparing alcohol with drugs like cocaine, heroin, and even marijuana.

The probably think they are gaining credibility by opposing the legalization of marijuana.

ElChivato
05-07-2005, 06:01 PM
i do think it's overrated, but i've only tried it once and i really didn't get high, so maybe i shouldn't be talking. but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be.
peace & love.

MagicMedicine
05-08-2005, 09:59 PM
I think the alcohol industry should use weed to their advantage. Like those "Bacardi and Cola" commercials.

"Bacardi and Weed, getting it done right!"

Skoozy
05-10-2005, 04:48 PM
i do think it's overrated, but i've only tried it once and i really didn't get high, so maybe i shouldn't be talking. but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be.
peace & love.
I've heard a lot of people say they didn't get high
the first time.. I can't remember if I did or not since that was almost 30 yrs ago ;)..

Skoozy
05-10-2005, 04:52 PM
I think the alcohol industry should use weed to their advantage. Like those "Bacardi and Cola" commercials.

"Bacardi and Weed, getting it done right!"
yeah, Cuervo could use that line from the Steely Dan song.. "The Curevo Gold, the fine Columbian make tonight a wonderful thing........."

deadsilence020
06-14-2005, 11:38 PM
I think you guys dont realize... people smoke weed BECAUSE it IS less intoxicating... people wanna chill the fuck out, not be super hyped on acid n shit.... weed serves its purpose... as well do other drugs, its a different effect. And I like it cuz i can normally do shit WHILE im high... people like it for different reasons

wildfire
06-25-2005, 07:57 PM
in the virgin islands where i live the drinking age is 18. but they don't ask for id half the time so we start go to bars when we are about 13. i developed early so i've been able to get booze since i was 11. i personally like the marijuana high better than being drunk. and you know mushrooms and acid are good but weed is just the main stapple for mind altering drugs. your liver would give out if you were on acid 24/7 but you can do that with weed and still be good. mellow

StonerBill
06-28-2005, 03:08 PM
*double take* you developed early at 11? even at the laxest places, 25 year old women are asked for ID... i dont believe ive ever known a girl to go and buy the booze unless they had a fake ID.

i guess you are pretty lucky eh?

though.. 11... and booze... meh

wildfire
06-28-2005, 10:10 PM
thats how it is here. like even my little sister and her friends who are 13 go and buy cigarettes and beer and some of them are obviously not 18 but they don't care. and i swear this is ture one of my friends when he was about 12 was at like a beach bar and ordered a virgin pina colada and the bartenders like how old are you? 12. oh you can a little rum in it. livin it up in the islands! peace

illustrated illusion
08-07-2005, 09:51 PM
In Germany and Holland, the age limit for alcohol is 16, which is good, because usually nowdays people who are in the age of ~16-17 - they usually should already have a clue what they are doing. Second: the forbidden fruit theory, thats why marijuana is so popular. The world is filled with psychedelic mushrooms, plants, succulents and even animals, and mostly legal. For example Brugmansia, which is very easy to get and to overdose.

fullybaked
08-12-2005, 05:27 PM
maybe so but i love it

MagicMedicine
08-20-2005, 10:15 PM
I used to think marijuana was weak, until I got had a few shots and got fucked up on hookah hits loaded with chronic. Ever heard of shifting realities? If not, you need to try it. I felt like I switched between 40-so lives. That was after my brain tried to convince myself that I was dying.

All-in-all: 10.0/10.0

Note: Bring a notebook and pen though. I need to next time. You won't remember a hell of a lot later. And you'll want to. Beginners mistake I suppose.

deadhead123654
08-20-2005, 11:05 PM
i dont think marijuana is all that powerful.. its fun, but it is kinda weak... dramamine tho... man thats some crazy stuff.. i did that last night.. it feels like ur in a dream

kayy
08-22-2005, 05:34 PM
i think that a law being able to criminalize a plant is fascism; a parallel example: basmati rice in india: some big multinational corp. has patented the right to own all basmanti rice, I mean, doesn't belong to the earth????????????? same with marijuana, mushrooms..., we human didn't create the earth, and we can't claim any rigths...

MorbidMaggot
09-13-2005, 07:04 AM
i do think it's overrated, but i've only tried it once and i really didn't get high, so maybe i shouldn't be talking. but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be.
peace & love.
Of course not, when you don't inhale. n00b. Haha, only kidding. The first time wasn't a huge buzz for me either, but I gave it another chance. Peace & Love, indeed.

rangerdanger
09-13-2005, 03:47 PM
Most people don't get high the first time or 2 they smoke.

SG69
09-14-2005, 08:27 PM
Smoke some white widow reefer direct from Amsterdam and you'll be fucked up good.

nirvana187
09-20-2005, 09:16 AM
first time i smoked i didn't get high, maybe a slight buzz and i was like well it's nothing special. then my second time... i was like where have you been all my life?

cjh
10-27-2005, 12:22 AM
man knowone diss weed, you cant even compare it to alcohol coz they are different, but weed definatly has a more admiral culture to it, due to the people who have smoked it, and the fact it changes everytime u smoke it and is very natural unlike alco-pops

IronGoth
10-27-2005, 12:34 AM
Well, it's important as a gateway drug to less "weak" things.

It's like drugs lite - it gets people into a drug subculture and gets them over the fears and concerns of walking on that side of the road. Then comes the "only true people into this do X" with X being things like LSD, heroin, etc.

TopNotchStoner
10-27-2005, 03:09 PM
If you are 18 and in the armed forces it is legal for you to buy alcohol on the military base, and off the base in most places.

TopNotchStoner
10-27-2005, 03:12 PM
i dont think marijuana is all that powerful.. its fun, but it is kinda weak... dramamine tho... man thats some crazy stuff.. i did that last night.. it feels like ur in a dreamThat shit is the stupidest thing I ever did. Fuck that shit. I ate 31 dramamines a couple of times and was so fucked up.

TopNotchStoner
10-27-2005, 03:18 PM
Well, it's important as a gateway drug to less "weak" things.

It's like drugs lite - it gets people into a drug subculture and gets them over the fears and concerns of walking on that side of the road. Then comes the "only true people into this do X" with X being things like LSD, heroin, etc.
It wouldn't be that way if it was legalized. Because when you buy weed you eventually come in contact with people that are selling other drugs. They try to sell other shit to you and you eventually say "what the hell, I might as well try it once just to know what it's like" and you end up liking it and use it more often. If weed were legalized you could grow your own or buy it in stores and never have to come in contact with those other drugs.

AestheticNugs
10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
ok dramamine. wow. I trid that once and it i a desperate...high or whatever you would like to call that lame trip. Of course it all seems real but no. dramamine...I never did it again. But w all have our thoughts about marijuana... evryone has their opinions whether they like the beautiful herb or not. Those you love it..... can do what they wish. Those who don't love it.... can do what they wish. But maybe also mind their own business... because we all have our own theories. That is just a slight bit of mine. But maybe it odesn't matter. It is not a world war here. It many be one of our only barriers to keeping people happy and learning to present Peace and Love. I think it makes you find your true self.... just my opinion. man if I was talking right now I'd be out of breath. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

cosmicdust
11-26-2005, 10:38 AM
The first that I smoked pot was in the living area of my dorm room in the fall of 1973. It was very, very "relaxing" and "euphoric". I felt a little funny and high, but no real visuals or psychedelic effects. I kept on smoking, everyday, with fairly high doses, with similar results.

However, one time I went to a party at some collge student's and/or hippie's house and smoked many, many joints, while sitting in a giant pot smoking circle, on the kitchen floor. Later, I went into the living room and the cook from my dorm (old army cook) was giving "oxygen mask pipe" hits. He custom-made a pipe with an oxygen mask end and a blow pipe end. The bowl was in the center of the pipe and screwed on, after it was lit. You put your face into the oxygen mask (after the bowl is lit and screwed on), then someone blows into a hollow pipe on the other end. Then POW! What a hit! A very powerful delivery system, sort of bong like. I did like 5 or 6 hits and I was very high.

I saw a chic with a white cast on her leg, and it was covered with metallic silver sprinkles (like the kind that you'd be in an arts and crafts store) and around her eyes also. Some hippie dude came in the front door, with an opened shirt, showing his chest. It was covered in metallic green sparkles, but when he came closer to me, they disappeared! Some acid-type hallucinations, but I only smoked a massive amount of pot, unless some of the pot that I smoked was dusted with something. However, still NO INTERNAL VISIONS, like pot is supposed to produce!

About a week later, after my first pot experience, I was smoking a jay in my suite mate's room, listening to music on his stereo, while sitting on the floor. I started to feel bubbles flowing up my right leg, as if going through my blood vessels and veins! Then, they flowed through my entire body! When I closed my eyes, I saw silver bubbles, cartoon-like and real-looking together, flowing through my mind. Then I had a constant flow of consciousness and INTERNAL VISIONS, as if I was watching a movie in my head . . . like I was dreaming while I was wide awake! At first I was shocked, suprised, but not really scared.

My constant flow of internal visions, included: flying through, and between two planes of orange letter "K's", then yellow letter "Y's), beautiful "electric" clouds, a turquoise plaque (trimmed in a silver decoration), with the word GOD on it, a field of polished chrome, domed cylinders, a field of sparkling firecrackers (with a stars and stripes design, in red, white and blue), a field of glass flowers, filled with a neon liquid and connected together at their roots, and so on . . . endless beautiful visions. I felt like I was in some kind of heaven! I even drew some of my visions on white index cards, using colored pencils. Far out!

After a week of heavy marijuana use, it finally worked like it's supposed to work! At first, I guess that the mind offers some kind of resistance, which is called the PSYCHEDELIC THRESHOLD. Once you break through it, it usually always works after that. Once you become an experienced, long-time user, you usually develope a "reverse tolerance", where a smaller amount is needed for similar results, that used to come at a higher dose, unlike other drugs. If you trip on acid, this can increase the psychedelic effects of all following pot experiences, by a little.

So I LOL at people who try pot only once, or only a few times, and only get mild euphoria, instead of the full psychedelic effects. It takes time the first time to work as it's supposed to. Plus, you must smoke a high enough dose. The higher the dose, the more the psychedelic. Teens in the late60's/early70's used to smoke massive quantities and insane amounts.

In my college dorm, I built a homemade water pipe, made from: a green glass, 1 gallon, Chianti wine bottle, a big, black rubber cork (with two holes drilled in it, for the two required solid pipes), plumbing parts and some fish store parts. I decorated the "neck" of the bottle with stick-on gold foil stars and glued on some gold glitter, near the bottle top. I used to call it: THE TIME MACHINE, because after a toke, or two, I felt like a door opened-up and I entered some kind of other dimension. It got alot of use.

With stronger Cannabis products, like HASHISH and HASH OIL, you can "trip" and equal an average dose of LSD in intensity, although the psychedelic effects are different. It didn't equal my VERY INTENSE trip with 4-way amber windowpane LSD ("tiny, but powerful enough to blow the eyes out of your head"), though. I had a high school friend who made some butterscotch cookies, with 3 GMS. of HASHISH mixed in, then baked. About an hour later. POW, it hit me, and I felt like I was tripping on acid (but pot-type high). With my eyes closed, I was a VIVID map of the USA, with cartoons running all over it, while listening to Jefferson Airplane music. Initially shocking, but it soon became quite pleasant and "euphoric".

Even more powerful and "trippy" is HASH OIL. My friend gave me some pot to extract HASH OIL. This was the first and only time that I did it. I put the pot in a PYREX glass beaker, added 99% ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL, put a rubber cork on top, with a long glass tube to "vent" and distill the alcohol, so it wouldn't catch fire, as I was using a gas stove. As an extra precaution, I put it in a double-boiler, filled with water. I boiled the pot and alcohol mixture, until I got a brownish colored alcohol solution. I then strained the liquid, to remove the pot material (leaves, stems, etc.), into a holeless pie pan. I placed it outside in the sun to evaporate, until nothing was left but hash oil. I had to scrape alot to get it all and placed it on a glass slide.

When using solvents NEVER use (wood-grain) METHYLALCOHOL (or also called METHANOL). It is very TOXIC, and can cause blindness or death! The alcohol that we drink is called: ETHYLALCOHOL (or also called ETHANOL) and is the best to use. I've read of a drink called GREEN DRAGON, where you boil pot in a high-alcohol content liquer, like vodka, strain it, then drink it. You don't let it evaporate, its a thc/vodka drink! I've never made or drank it.

All alcohol solvents have flammable fumes and a nasty fire could happen, unless you know what you're doing. I have enough chemistry experience to do it safely. I don't make illegal drugs. That's complicated organic chemsitry. It's dangerous and illegal to do so.

I was sitting on the passenger side of my high school friend's VW BEETLE BUG, when I smoked the HASH OIL. It was powerful!!! I thought that my seat belt was a big snake! I wasn't scared of it, but it was "trippy". This was the only pot experience that I didn't know where I was for a short time. I only did HASH OIL this one time.

In the book: MARIJUANA RECONSIDERED, by Lester Grinspoon M.D., QUICK TRADING COMPANY, Oakland, CA, 1971,1994, paperback edition, 2nd EDITION REPRINT, look at the back index under the "X" heading and find "X., Mr. 109-116, 260. According to an internet source, "Mr. X" has been revealed as good, old CARL SAGAN (the famous professor, scientist and astronomer, who always talks about, 'Billions and billions of stars and planets.")! He describes his early pot smoking experiences (pgs. 110-111):

"My initial experiences were entirely disappointing; there was no effect at all . . ." Later, "After about five or six unsuccessful attempts, however, it happened. I was lying on my back in a friend's living room idly examining the pattern of shadows on the ceiling cast by a potted plant (not Cannabis!). I suddenly realized that I was examining an intricately detailed miniature Volkswagen, distinctly oulined by the shadows." "But it was all there, down to hubcaps, license plates, chrome, and even the small handle used for opening the trunk. When I closed my eyes, I was stunned to find that there was a movie going on on the inside of my eyelids. Flash . . . a simple country scene with red farmhouse, blue sky, white clouds, yellow path meandering over green hills to the horizon. Flash . . . same scene, orange house, brown sky, red clouds, yellow path, violet fields . . . Flash . . . Flash . . . Flash. The flashes came about once a heartbeat. Each flash brought the simple scene into view, but each time with a different set of colors . . . exquisitely deep hues, and astonishingly harmonious in their juxtaposition. Since then I have smoked occasionally and enjoyed it thoroughly." - CARL SAGAN

Right on Carl! He's tripping on pot! He never tried LSD, though. That would've been interesting, if he had, but he died of cancer, years ago. He did write that trippy book, that they made a movie out of, called CONTACT (starring Jodie Foster). So Carl Sagan verifies my actual experiences with pot!

I work on Industrial jobs (working for auto parts suppliers) and I have to be drug tested sometimes, so I'm not smoking pot, now. If it was legalized, I could smoke it after work, but NOT during work! The same work rules apply for alcohol. Like Carl Sagan, I still enjoy pot!

April 2005 was the 34th year for the rally for marijuana legalization in Ann Arbor, MI, called the Ann Arbor HASH BASH!
www.hashbash.com (http://www.hashbash.com/)
www.monroestreetfair.com (http://www.monroestreetfair.com/)


Peace out. Trip out.

(\__/) BUNNY: I'm STONED AGAIN!!!
(~.~)
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rangerdanger
11-26-2005, 02:42 PM
GREAT post cosmicdust.
Pot affects different people in different ways.
I've been smoking pot of over 37 years, and I've NEVER had as vivid visual as both you and Mr Sagan experienced (wish I had).

SG69
11-27-2005, 03:28 PM
I've had visuals off reefer before, it was scary but kinda cool after it was over.

SG69
11-27-2005, 03:29 PM
Well, it's important as a gateway drug to less "weak" things.

It's like drugs lite - it gets people into a drug subculture and gets them over the fears and concerns of walking on that side of the road. Then comes the "only true people into this do X" with X being things like LSD, heroin, etc.
If weed is a gateway drug then I must be on the wrong forum.

happyonehit420
12-24-2005, 08:01 AM
I've only smoked the herb for about 4 years now, but I've had a similar experience as comicdust. It was back in my sophomore year in high school, and my friend Kenny and I ditched school before first period with about 12 other kids, and went across the street to a real, genuine hippie's house, who we all called Nico. He grew his own, so we got free pot all day long, and we were all sitting in a huge circle in his living room. We probably smoked about 20 or so jays, and then I had remembered that I had my bong in my backpack, so I broke it out. Nico brought out some really, really fine bud, I never caught the name of it, but it was a really light purple/blue color. We all toked out of my bong, and after only a few hits of the purple stuff, on top of all the stuff I had just smoked, I started to see things. Not like heavy stuff, it was just like I was watching my life from the inside, sort of like on that movie about Erin Brokovich. The floor seemed to be like quicksand, only I never sank in. It was actually pretty cool.
We all passed out at Nico's house until the end of the day, then Kenny and I practically crawled back to school and got on the buses. Everyone on the bus instantly knew we were baked, but, I honestly don't think we noticed them talking to us lol

CreamPuffWar
12-24-2005, 09:58 PM
I've only had two psychadelic experiences while under the influence of marijuana. Both times were quite interesting in their own respects, however, they were also very unexpected. The first time I actually began having visual hallucinations, was when I constructed a gravity bong and took 11, yes, ELEVEN, hits from it. Granted, one or two is plenty for the average individual. I sat at my computer, VERY HIGH, which I was enjoying. Every time I turned my head to the left or to the right, my vision seemed to be in slow motion. Anyway, after about 45 minutes had elapsed, I noticed my heart rate was increasing dramatically. Following this, my vision became incredibly cloudy and I began to literally see television snow; you know, when a channel on a television is not coming in and all you see are millions of white dots? Yes, my vision, my entire field of vision, filled up with white dots and I could not see anything. At first, I was alarmed and wasn't sure what to do. Eventually, I just had to tell myself "It's only a drug, I can survive this, it will wear off soon." In any situation like that, reassuring yourself you are alright is the best thing one can do. My second experience took place at my friend's apartment in college, this past semester. I bought 4g of incredibly potent headies and rolled it all into one blunt. Me and 3 or 4 friends passed it around for about 40 minutes and decided to watch the movie Poolhall Junkies (AWESOME movie by the way, in case anyone is interested). I sat on the couch, for the entire movie, in complete silence. The characters in the movie seemed to flow like water as they moved across the screen; it was intense. My friends reported similar effects to me.

burritoog
12-26-2005, 08:15 AM
i started smoking weed about september/october ish of last year.

ever since then i was a total pot head...

i had smoked a couple of times, barely gotten anything off of it, but then one day, i had this nice hydroponic shit that i shared with my friend sean. I can honestly say that that was the first time i really got high. i tripped so fucking hard that i dropped my glass pipe and broke it. When we walked back to our school, i saw my friend in a car, and i swear it was her, so i stopped in front of the car and tied my shoe to piss her off. when i looked back, it wasnt my friend but some random lady and she was so fucking pissed off.

when i went back to our school, my friend and i went upstairs and stared at these house monument things other kids had made, my friend Tiff, came up to me and told me i looked a little too happy to be in school. After that I literally fucking tripped and ran all the way back to my house (about a mile away) where i went to my bed, and had dreams and visions of the universe, and i literally thought i saw jesus and like, i had a epiphone or w/e about weed. it was incredible..

ever since then it was about the same until....

i went down into the grand canyon in about may with my friend jess, every night we would hit a bowl or two or three, i lost count, we were down there for about 3 days, going from the south rim, to the north rim, and back to the south rim. anyways, one night, we smoked a huge amount, i'd say about 2-4 bowls (of this shit called like misty or something) out of an apple.

now let me say this, I am a light weight on everything, back then i was about 6'3 and weighed 160 lbs.

when we went back to our tent, my friend jesse turned into a fucking troll like the one from the lord of the rings and started eating something wierd (later turned out to be a cupcake) and I saw three trees in the distance which turned into fireworks and there were hippos and shit dancing around with a vivid color changing background...

i dont know wtf was up with that, maybe it was the dehydration or something, but it was incredible to say the least.

the greatest thing about it was that we were camped right next to a river and it soundde like the ocean, it was just wonderful.


after that, i went back to my normal highs, I mean, I never hit more than 2 or 3 bowls with friends, but i still got stoned out of my mind if you know what I mean.

then one day, i meant these two kids and the one kid had a jeep, so we hot boxed his jeep, we hit probably 4 bowls of that same misty shit... it took a couple minutes to kick in, but when it did, holy fucking shit, I can honeslty say I had never had that big of a trip before.

I looked out the window and I saw a tree, but it wasn't a tree, I dont know what it was, but in the sky, there were these eyeballs looking at me, and all sorts of triangular patterns, it was incredible. I was seeing snowflakes, and all sorts of shit.

we then went into the "lodge" of the place we were staying and poured ourselves coffee, when i started putting the sugar in, my arms turned into mechanical hands and I became a "machine", my friend later told me i was chanting to myself, more sugar, more sugar for the machine lol....

then this little kid came in the room, with black hair and blue eyes, kind like the kid from the comic strip adam @ home... anyways, like, if you've ever seen touched by an angel, you know that light effect the angels get on them? thats what the kid had, it was intense, and I had a conversation with the kid (probably 4 or 5 years old) telling him he was the chosen one and shit... until his dad came into the room and yelled at me... after that i went back to my room and slept i think, i dont really remember how i got there.


after that I took a break for about 3 months, i felt amazing. one day, i jacked a 30 pack of tecate from ralphs and three of my friendd and I went to the cliffs by the ocean by my house and chilled and drank some beers (i had like 4 or 5) and smoked some cigarrettes. then this guy and a chick came and started smokin weed. i talked to them for awhile, and took one hit, i repeat one hit, it was a pretty big hit, but still only one hit. i held that smoke in for so long, like, probably about 5 minutes, i let a little out, sucked in air, the works....

after that, i thought it was armageddon and we were all going to die. my friend and i went surfing, i couldnt figure out how to paddle and pissed off a bunch of surfers. and eventually let the ocean push me into the shore, but before that, i went under, and i was immediately tossed and turned by the ways for several minutes, before i remembered oh shit, i have to breathe... and came up for air, i then paddled to the beach and just sat down and looked at the sunset. when i was looking out at the ocean, i swear to god i was looking at like a mural of paintings that were moving from the ocean to the sky. it was intense, i ended up sitting there for about 3 hours, stoned out of my mind... after that, i like, went over to some bum's bonfire and got some heat, and eventually made my way home....

i dont know if anyone else has had any experiences like mine, but i assure you, for me, weed is not mild drug, it makes me trip ballz...

alcohol is a pussy drug, it makes me dumb and makes shit spin.... just my opinion... theres a lot of other good legal drugs out there that make u trip more than alcohol like, nutmeg, salvia, whip-its, and morning glory (dont do that shit)

yea, anyways peace.

teh-horace
12-26-2005, 03:38 PM
you musta got a hit of some really good weed then
that's crazy

Bloody_Kisses
12-27-2005, 08:25 AM
its true, marijuana is really too mild to be considered a drug, especially compared to everything thats out there. but i would rather be a pothead than a fucking chem-head.

GratefulFloyd
12-27-2005, 08:43 AM
Its not too mild to be considered a drug, being insanely high is definitely more powerful than popping hydros.

Burrit-holy shit. i'm 5'8 and 130 pounds, i've never tripped that hard before. that's really, really insane.

WhisperingWoods
12-28-2005, 05:41 AM
Weed can be mild, but maybe that's why we love it so much. It's effective and fun, but we don't really trip.

Beyond-the-Clouds
12-28-2005, 05:52 AM
Ecstacy is probobly approximately alot better. That's what I'm looking for. I've never tried marijuanna or anything though. Beer causes some bad vibes and bad cordination though, doesn't it? Isn't that why raves have mdma instead? I've never known why weed is so popular though. Is it just because it's easy to get?

cosmicdust
12-28-2005, 10:10 PM
Marijuana can be MILD or WILD (VERY STRONG, i.e. "TRIPPING") depending on DOSE and the individual person's physical and mental make-up. If you take one quick puff, and that'ts all, it's going to be milder. The strength of the weed is also important. One hit of a powerful weed is going to be felt much more than a hit from a weak (i.e. "skunk") weed.

The marijuana TODAY is more of the INDICA strains, rather than the SATIVA strains (as in the 60's/70's), because INDICA is more of a low, stubby, bush, as opposed to the tall and stalky SATIVA strain. This is mostly because it is harder to detect smaller bushes, than tall stalks, if grown outdoors. This is to avoid detection from "nosey" DEA helicopters. However, if you "prune" a SATIVA plant, properly, you CAN make it grow into a short, stubby, bush. One of my high school friend's friends (who didn't go to my high school) had a "SATIVA bush" growing in their bathroom (at their house), which I went to attend their pot party.

In the 60's/70's, pot was weaker in potency (as compared to today's "bred strains"), but potheads back then smoked massive quantities, so it wasn't really noticed. They "tripped" on pot to experience psychedelic effects, as opposed to just relaxing with pot, or just experiencing its "euphoric" qualities (which is alright if that's what you just want out of pot). Of course, if you use stronger pot products (i.e. with a higher THC content), such as: HASHISH and HASH OIL, you may get close to an "acid-type" of high. It just takes a high THC level to trip, that's all!

The "pot smoking circles" that you see on the hit TV show: THAT 70's SHOW were true in the 70's! 70's potheads smoked in those circles ALOT of times, though not 100% of the times, of course.

burritoog stated that: "alcohol is a pussy drug, it makes me dumb and makes shit spin....just my opinion...." Alcohol suppresses the higher-intellectual functions in the brain, so you're left with your "primitive brain", which just likes sex and fighting. Pot supposedly "expands" your mind and activates higher-order brain functions, like psychedelics are supposed to do (if used properly). Some say that psychedelic (or "acid") sex is the best! Stimulants ("speedy" drugs) enhances the sexual orgasmic feeling, making it a little more "euphoric" feeling. Alcohol DULLS things, even your brain, since it is a pain killer.

Alcohol makes you want to have sex, but it does not "enhance" or "potentiate" the sexual orgasmic feeling like stimulants ("uppers"), or stimulant-based psychedelics can. Even caffeine works as a "potentiater". Alcohol also can create a "spinning" sensation, and in rare cases, a "flipping-over" sensation!

GratefulFloyd - My aunt has relatives in Spokane, Washington. My family, and I, visited my aunt's relatives (and stayed overnight at their home in Spokane), during the WORLD'S FAIR (sometime in the 70's), when it was in Spokane, Washington. I remember the SPOKANE RIVER, that flowed wildly through the city of Spokane!

WhisperingWoods - Youu CAN trip off of pot, but it just takes alot higher doses. If you like the milder effects of euphoria and relaxation, of pot, then that's cool! I just prefer the psychedelic effects, which require higher doses of marijuana to happen. I can control the effects, so that I feel like I'm in a heavenly, stream-of-consciousness state of mind!

Beyond-the-Clouds - Weed is soooo popular because it is usually extremely euphoric and relaxing. It's a natural plant (with less side effects) and it's virtually impossible to overdose on! You can just grow it and don't have to make it in an illegal chem lab. Ecstacy (MMDA) is very euphoric, but it has some bad side effects (like teeth clinching and depression, when it wears off). You CAN overdose on Ecstacy, or die from dehydration. If you're careful, then you can avoid the bad results. The ISRAELI MOSSAD also controls about 90% of the world's Ecstacy market, so you're financing their efforts. Ecstacy, if used properly, can still have some benfits. Just be careful with it!


Peace out. Trip out.


(\__/) BUNNY: Still STONED!!!
(~.~)
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Jezmund
12-29-2005, 11:33 PM
dude the main reason pot hasnt been legalized is because its very difficult to motivate a pothead.


If pot were made legal everyone would be smoking it just like almost everyone drinks now.

and America cant survive especially up against China if the majority of its workforce are stoners.

why do you think China finally made opium illegal? Since then China just took off

finkish
01-24-2006, 02:59 AM
why do "they" hate pot so much? It just makes no sence to me, everyone should all get baked then they'd understand that it don't mess you right up (ok mabie somtimes) at least you can't smoke your self to death, but you can drink yourself death, think about it.