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oldwolf

04-09-2005, 01:24 PM

Who Are You

Life is a process of unfoldment. One Changes

To judge yourself or another is to take a piece and decide from that piece what the whole will be like. Ingredients shift, outcomes are never certain.

And Love ? - Love allows another the right to Change and to stand apart in our own truth of the moment and be whole unto ourselves without letting the outcome of anothers changes come between.

To condemn another - to judge - leaves the one judging a little less. For we are here to Change - we are here to Learn - we are here to Grow.

One can observe without judging.
One can See without condemning

Truth Changes as well, for all Is possible. And to call something the truth presupposes that one knows What the truth is - The only truth is that you perceive from a limited perspective, and presume that all will stay within that limited fremework.
Existence is not static - far from it...........chaotic - yes ; static - no.

What is True in one moment - may not be in the next.

We are here to Learn and Grow and Change
Can we not let another do so as well ?

Being True to Self means taking the blinders off - taking away excuses, allowing all to Be - and Being Changes constantly.
We by our interaction affect - become part of the ingredients of Change.

---- added in edit
Sometimes the things we See in others and most condemn are things we See within ourselves - even when we deny it applies to us.

And sometimes the only thing we can do is gently shut the door hopefully leaving the other with good feelings toward themselves even if not toward us.

If we are not there for the rebuilding we should not be tearing down. Without shoring up a structure (putting in supportive members), we must be careful to not take down bearing walls.
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To abdicate interaction - to try to isolate; turns the energy back in on itself - and it will come up again, though mayhap in a different guise.

And sometimes the interaction leaves us more vulnerable than we would like; for within change all has it's purpose from the maggot , to the cayote trickster; the fool, to those who would be wise.

And all roles are part of existence and in the very fact that all springs from that I Am - we are in all the roles

From the moment the I Am looked outside - Existence has Been. Creation was, is, and always will be about change - for without change it ceases.

And standing on the mountain and shining a lantern does not in and of itself help another to See - that is and always has been up to the individual. And the light that one shines is only within certain spectrums, for to be within them all brings us back to the I Am; without looking outside, without change, without creation - without darkness and without Light

oldwolf

04-26-2005, 02:27 AM

Sometimes it's about caring and giving in spite of - being detached enough to BE ALL that one can BE

Despite what others may give you, despite bad energy - to Give Love - not just in name, but in Deed

When the chips are down - in the face of adversity - we find out just What we give our Lives to - When there is no hope, even to survive - Who and What ARE we ?

We Are spirit and our Connection One to All IS Love.

Loving You

mariecstasy

05-02-2005, 01:58 PM

loving you back!
all i have to say to you and your miss is that i am very hopeful that i will indeed be able to make it to your place this summer. the two of you have a wonderful vibe to you and i would feel so blessed to be able to chat with you. i can see you both having lots of smiles just always on your faces.
what you have written here...i couldnt agree with more. it is actually one of the biggest lessons i have reaped in this whole seperation and divorce. people ask me all the time why i am not mad at John...they want to know how i can talk to him as a friend and not harbor any hostility...i just let them know that doing that only affects me much more than it could him and that i am not angry with him in the least. we all suffer and some of us handle it better than others. i have learned, or am still learning i should say, about reacting and how harsh it is to our own spirit and esp to the recipient.

measa420

05-02-2005, 02:24 PM

beautiful oldwolf

couldnt agree more
but i am still learning
and walking the road of light
each day i grow stronger
and more open an ampt
to forgive but all comes in time
and everyone has time
its just how you precieve
it and what you do with it
then i struggle not to judge
cause just as you stated
there your faults also
that is why there easy for
one to pinpoint them on others
time is of the essence
all my love and blessin
measa

Shiningstar

05-23-2005, 04:38 PM

what else can I say.. amazing

thank you old wolf

Love, Light and Laughter
Laura

shameless_heifer

05-25-2005, 01:43 PM

no harm intended

oldwolf

05-27-2005, 10:51 PM

within the INTENT is the real message.
And that is determined by the person Acting not the one receiving.
My Intent to you remains as it always has been - Honoring the Connection and Seeing your beauty as your higher self radiates on through the short timer to the degree to which Awareness allows it.
May you Grow on
With peace and Blessings to you and yours as you travail along your Way

Lionheart2000

05-28-2005, 12:14 AM

You can be anyone this time around, said Timothy Leary in the 60s. Could Tim have been right? You bet.
One of these days people are going to throw off the chains and choose who they wish to become. In magick we call this assuming a magical persona. The object is to make it real and to make it your own, without
outside persuasion. Dump the programming. Write your own spirit software.
And enjoy your new Spring--2005 and Summer Solstice.

oldwolf

05-31-2005, 11:23 PM

Stirring the embers lest the fire go out,
I See the sparks fly intertwining in the air.
And think of our connections - Honoring,
So thankful for all with whom we share this existence,
Ever so thankful of those Connections with spirits of like mind
With whom the sharing goes deeper than with most.

Ofttimes those things least said are also those things held most dear.

oldwolf

07-29-2005, 05:58 PM

So to sum up.....
Stop It ! BE STILL

do not try to pass the energy you hold unto yourself without first checking with those on the receiving end - do they want it - and in the manner it was couched - or is the energy free of strings....

I want our friendship - but even more, I want the Work - and so friendships are always about the Work .

I run the narrow ribbon Between - Passing through the Abyss of Chaos.... the road that is neither of the white or of the black, recognizing that All is Change

The Middle Way - the Grey Road - Ever the Fool.... The Way of Detachment.

My Work is to help others Grow - In this I find my own Being Grows as well.

I am not here but to help you Be - All you can Be.......... but before that - what You choose to Be

I open and maintain the Way unblocked to Work together to help All Grow - my hand is ever outstretched to grasp in wholeness the hand of another workmate - a compadre. - One who helps all be All they can be - once we See that we supply our lessons by what we dwell in and draw to ourelves. We grow by making what we no longer Deny as a weakness and make it into a strength - we all do this, we all need to. Our free choice is our ability to Decide what lessons we focus on. This Is and always will be the choice of the indivdual - hence for so long the emphasis of Being True to Self

In traveling along your Way
Beaware what Intent wherein you lay
For oft we mire ourself in Ways untoward
And then have trouble moving forward

We hear to thine own Self Be True
And Know to not - we shall rue
So look deep within, and do not alibi
T'is really the same as living a lie

When All is done from a place of Pure Love
Not for personal gain, but from Above
Then what is received Opens Doors for us
And what is given, adds to the trust

Being All we can Be - Open and Whole
In just this moment - what a joy to behold
Leads to peace within and Growth for you
And helps all others on their Way too

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We enhance the quality of Existence
We fulfill our potential in a manner beneficial to All
We seek Full Awareness, Total Cooperation
and Complete Union with our GodSelf

Surrounded by Love........ Mind Creates the concept
Full of Love...................... Desire provides the motivation
Channels of Love............. Doing is the test
One with Love

Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
nomadhermit@hotmail.com (nomadhermit@hotmail.com)
Waysharer@yahoo.com (Waysharer@yahoo.com)

Lionheart2000

07-29-2005, 07:03 PM

Beautiful Oldwolf,
Once I helped a man in Southern Colorado with building his Kiva (an octagonal place of worship--built down into the ground)..he taught me how to shovel from the left and from the right--and how to breathe correctly so as not to tire out and reciting a mantra and--indeed the "work" became so absolutely simple that it was Not work..it was Bhakti-devotion!!
Peace
LionHeart

Rumi Poetry

A moment of happiness,
you and I sitting on the verandah,
apparently two, but one in soul, you and I.
We feel the flowing water of life here,
you and I, with the garden's beauty
and the birds singing.
The stars will be watching us,
and we will show them
what it is to be a thin crescent moon.
You and I unselfed, will be together,
indifferent to idle speculation, you and I.
The parrots of heaven will be cracking sugar
as we laugh together, you and I.
In one form upon this earth,
and in another form in a timeless sweet land.

http://soly.st/Rumi.html

mariecstasy

07-30-2005, 02:57 AM

we read stuff and then we reread it again later and its so different:) thanks for bringin an old thread back

sylvanlightning

08-01-2005, 04:26 PM

Yes, these depths change with each glance.

oldwolf

08-08-2005, 08:05 PM

Individuality

Howdy y'all just a wee post to set the record straight about something that's been bothering me a bit.
To you who've been following up on our posts - you know that our foremost motto is to thine own Self be True. As such we eschew being labeled as attached to another. We are each indivduals and would prefer to be thought of in that way. No one of us is married at present to one of the others and whether any one of us is intimate with another or not (which we keep private), does not keep us from engaging with others as an individual. Now that does not mean that we limit to unmarried folk or do not like kids. Those presently involved are beyond childrearing age and our children have gone on to become their own individuals. We hope to See more likeminded join
in - and we do not wish to have a hierachical structure, nor have any
expectations for others to be unmarried; and know that any real community includes children - keeps us all humble and on out toes. When you talk to one of us - you get that one, not 2 or three - when you talk about community often the answer has been checked out through the others before posting - as this one was.
As I finally legalize the Co-Op and take the land out of my name - hopefully a group consensus will become more obvious. Everyone has strengths which are useful to the Whole. Please do not limit us to your expectations that any one is someone's lady or old man - we struggle hard to be true to the individual higher Self.
So let me keep this a wee post by closing - saying May each be True to Self, that unique Being of unleashed potential.

Blessings along your Way

sylvanlightning

08-09-2005, 03:26 AM

Thank you for sharing.
Waking up each day to see the other,
agreeing to one more day.
What else is there in union?

Co-creation is Infinite.

mariecstasy

08-09-2005, 05:51 AM

as i read the thread and see my words where i said you and your lady, i feel this was directed to me.....
for whatever misunderstanding i have had and whatever uncomfort i have created, i apologize.
peace in whatever your surroudings. those are yours, not mine. i just speak to you from my language and sometimes the languages may not mesh well together. though as i wrote it and as i think things of the sort, i do not in the least find to refer to someone as your lady or such, to be limiting...not arguing with what you are saying here but simply expressing what goes through my mind as i write.
anyway, again, i apologize

sylvanlightning

08-09-2005, 06:32 AM

No apologies are needed for Self-expression.
I do so enjoy campfires...
We honor each other with smiles and love.

I am the fool, the magus, the lover, the universe...
I am strength, justice, the wheel and death...
I am the empress, the high priestess and the moon...
I am the emperor, the hierophant and the sun...

Yet, these are but attributes of my original dork :)

mariecstasy

08-09-2005, 06:35 AM

andrew, you are a huge dork....

oldwolf

08-09-2005, 07:38 AM

No Marie - this was written about 2 weeks ago.
Yuor post may have been the final push to put it forward - but I/we put this forward because people - not just you, tend to orient themselves even as you did, to grouping people as couples or singles -- and in the Work (helping individuals and the Self come to a remembrance and continued Growth) the truth becomes paramount - and we ARE Spirit coalescing into human form - We are the One always alone - And the One always together - striving to recall and remember and still use these experiences to Grow Beyond - ever does Change Be.
Words come hard to try to explain and we must hope for the intuitive jump.
But this was not aimed at any one individual - it was said in an attempt to Honor our Truths that we wish to live by.

In this I must bow to the Spirit

NAMASTE & Blessings as we all Grow on.

sylvanlightning

08-09-2005, 05:30 PM

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24098&page=8&pp=10

Namaste

Commitment is the intent to grow together that is only actualized in the course of time. I'm committed to everyone I encounter in this way. I don't feel it right to ask someone to promise that they will continue to feel a certain way about me in the future as a precondition for being vulnerable, open and honest. The only boundaries are the ones the mind creates or accepts. Look at the statement "that limit love for others." Really feel it. Can you grow in a relationship where your partner doesn't want you to have friends or continued contact with your family exc... I need open relationships where everything can be discussed so secret repressions don't end up dissolving the love. Love is a natural instinct. For example, does your love for littleskinnys' poetry exclude you from communing with KittenX? When it comes to sexual relations, for me, I choose monogamy. This is how I feel the divine feminine should be honored. It is my subjective choice and I do honor my friends who choose polyamorous sexual relations.

I love discussing as well fulmah. I honor you for sharing this. It means a great deal, to me, that you would spend any energy or time communicating with me.

There are as many paths are there are sentient beings. The goal for me is awareness and circulating love with all who are open. Stand in this fire with me.

* thought you would enjoy this oldpost*

sylvanlightning

08-09-2005, 05:31 PM

Ansaras' Loom
Dear One,

This is a gift to you my friend, in gratitude for sharing my path.

It is meant to be shared, so that perhaps, another might find the way.

You are so loved,

Ansara

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24098&page=1&pp=10

oldwolf

08-10-2005, 01:49 PM

And for those who may think that the thread individuality might be constued to say we are active in polyamorai -
Nope - not that I judge it incorrect - as a matter of fact properly followed (Not a continual lust part - but Love from the spirit) it seems to be a righteous path.
It's just that so often couples are co-dependent and the individual gets lost. For us Being that Being is the most important - being true to Self. And that is always an individual Path.

From my own perspective, which I put on no-one - As Spirit I do not see any relationship as permanent. As Spirit I personally recognize that the male or female attribute is taken on when incarnating onto this plane of duality. Love is the Connection between All. Our relationships here on earth are but a poor echo of that Connection.

Blessings on your Way

sylvanlightning

08-10-2005, 05:35 PM

We are both polyamorous from the heart center.
Thank you for sharing.

Lionheart2000

08-10-2005, 07:23 PM

Poly-ester? Poly-glot? Poly-gon? Poly-nesian?

I believe most of the experimenting hippies of the 60s & 70s totally belived that communes were going to be based on "polygamy" or "polyamory"..and soon found out that their egos and emotional bodies were unable to handle it..I would suspect after listening to many that did, that their programming from the way they were brought up had to be transcended first.
As you have both mentioned --a sharing from the heart center would be paramount in sustaining any kind of polyamorous realtionship or relationships. Right on!
For me, being a "serial heterosexual" and always faithful to one partner...polyamory was always a slight fantasy...and the opportunity never presented itself.
In today's society--I believe polyamory already exists without the knowledge or consent of the primary partner (wife-married spouse)--we call it "cheating" or "infidelity." Lieing and abuse of sacred vows-
Which always usually leads to divorce and the traumatization and disenfranchisment of millions of children...spreading infectious disease, manifesting unwanted pregnancies and lifelong heartbreak.
I totally believe that in an enlightened society where there are tribal systems built from strong "spiritual" ideals--that polamory would just simply be the norm and perfectly natural--as the boundaries would be naturally established by the code of honor and integrity of the "spirituality" they would live...part and parcel of a healthy lifestyle system.
Monogamy I'm sure, would be a choice..not the only model.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that this Xian right-wing fundamentalist society, to me, just isn't moral, conscious, or honest enough to "open" to any other form of sexual relationship other than marriage..man to woman- without some kind of legislation that would go on for years and years and years...or an affirmative action that to me, is narcisstic.
Best to find a conscious partner or partners and live and let live..discreet but confidently happy--and from the Heart!
Wow-Old Wolf--I never thought there was any polamory going on in your Polydise--I mean Paradise..projections are interesting if they come from an uninformed harmlessness...if they be projected desires to contribute to your family there...what would be the response?

Peace
LionHeart

Per capita divorce rates 1990-2002:
1991, 0.47%
1992, 0.48%
1993, 0.46%
1994, 0.46%
1995, 0.46%
1995, 0.43%
1997, 0.43%,
1998, 0.42%,
1999, 0.41%,
2000, 0.41%,
2001, 0.40%,
2002, 0.38%

moonlightdancer

08-14-2005, 05:25 PM

Thank you for sharing.

Lionheart2000

08-15-2005, 07:01 AM

Beautifully put Moonlightdancer,
The reacting thing has been a karmic burnoff for sure. The emotional body gives us endless challenges--right?
As I grow older I seem to emerse myself in the ideals you mentioned in your post, I have been aware of them since the 60s/70s and have tried to live them and still do--it is becoming easier--as I do not have the tug-or the strain of being competitive in the world. It has been difficult to balance the heart with "their" American Dream...my "hippie heart" has always guided me...my intuition thankfully has grown stronger.
For so many years, I did not listen to that 'heart,' and drew to me the endless issues and situations that I didn't really need to go through..only for the reasons and motivations of the 'herd,' and... reasons to suffer and then heal, when all along my innocense, ability to be compassionate, knowledge and discernment had always been with me since birth this lifetime...we were never trained to listen to our Soul's until the 60s and even then we had to explore the insanity this world offered to us...it was overwhelming...I walk more softly now..perhaps with my time with the Sacred Feminine I have been able to polish my heart and aura through the years..seeing and feeling the love that was always available, is available...and will never leave us.

Thanks to these forums and people like you and Aerial, Oldwolf, and Shameless Heifer and many more--I feel less alienated from sharing that love so deep inside.

Love, laughter and grace..that's it--that has always been it!
It's nice to get back to the garden.

Peace
LIonHeart

sylvanlightning

08-15-2005, 11:35 AM

Amen, Shanti & Much Love

moonlightdancer

08-15-2005, 06:41 PM

graciously passes

Lionheart2000

08-16-2005, 12:24 AM

"Honor yourself enough to be a butterfly."

There is a longing deep inside, a longing for life to be a certain
way, for your outer world to be a certain way, and for you,
yourself, to emerge as an improved version of yourself, clean and
clear of the habits which have undermined you, released from that
persistent voice in your mind which lives in the past.

There is a longing to emerge like a butterfly from the cocoon, all
shiny, new and free.

This is a longing which you can fulfill. It is within your power to
emerge from this cocoon of old habits, self-defeating actions,
patterns which seem to have ensnarled and encased you. It is well
within your power.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/6978Monarch-II_web.jpg

mariecstasy

08-16-2005, 01:23 AM

lionheart,
that felt like a meditation!!!!beautiful! and so very on target with the longing that we all feel inside....so many don't recognize it though and try to squash it with alcohol, drugs, materials.....whatever will take away the trick at the time....
i hope to find my wings someday....its been a long way coming but i feel i am still just building that cacoon....
peace dear brother.

moonlightdancer

08-16-2005, 09:33 PM

Ah Lionheart,

Amazingly beautiful. I have looked upon the butterfly and sighed many a time since you posted it. As I work and love in the here and now, I also cultivate my dreams. The two cannot be separated. Change is an ongoing presence (thanks to all holiness). I work and dream to become unensnared and to burst from my cocoon with all the brightness that IS. To fly and flit with loved ones and ones to be loved. I alight on your shoulder to whisper words of honor and thanks.
blessed be
mdancer

Lionheart2000

08-17-2005, 12:16 AM

Thank you MarieEcstasy and MoonlightDancer,
All of what you say is true...emerging from the cocoon is a transformation we all need, to be able to continue to "un-cloak." Shedding all that which is unreal within us-programming-old tapes-old past lifetime at-one-ments...karmic burnoff..
Exploring the ways that are given us through our intuition, dreams, Gaia, teachers and guides--and we cannot continue to do this if we do not totally believe in the "infinite posssibilities" of an inherent divinity and goodness within us and everyone and loving attention to our souls pathway. I know this sounds New Agey--its unfortunate we give these kinds of pathways names.but I believe given the right tools and guides anyone can improve their reality and open wide as a valley..without fear/distrust/and skepticism of the unseen. Love in this world now--in this dimension will always take Risk..risking what? that has always been a good question...ego, libido, surrender, super consciousness, tender beating hearts... I believe the list is rather long what humans believe are "risks" involved with Love...sad!

Drugs, alcohol, strange choices, food, money..are all "cloaks"..we wear to protect ourselves from those "risks"...sad!
All addictions will hinder our growth-the ability to really see, feel, hear and become aware of the Joy of Be-Ing!

Now when it comes to "organics" such as mushrooms and peyote-etc. these were put on the earth so that we could unveil and uncloak that which "we believe" is seperate from ALL IS ONE--or I AMness!

Or I look at it this way-simply--about growth and choices in this world.
If you take a butterfly and hold it by the wings..the butterfly ceases to be a butterfly. Can we not do that to ourselves and to others?

Peace
LionHeart

More of the butterfly..

First, hold on to the butterfly image and begin to connect deeply to
it. It is not the externals which matter here; it is the butterfly
that is you. This is the image to connect with.

And now, deep within your center, within the very core of yourself,
connect with this version of yourself, connect emotionally, deeply.
Know this person as yourself. Know that you are already this
person. Of course you are. It is you. And the cocoon will drop
away as you begin to connect more and more closely with the
butterfly.

You have the power to be what you dream of being, because you are
that person already. You are her.

What does she feel like? How does she act? How would she respond
in a given situation? It is as simple as that. Begin to honor
yourself enough to be this butterfly version of yourself. Clear
away your fear and doubt and simply dress, eat, exercise, speak,
think, and choose as she does.

For you are her. You are this butterfly. This longing is a longing
to come home to yourself, to release the old ways of being which no
longer serve, to free yourself from the fear and doubt, to flutter
your wings in the sunshine of a vibrant life and take flight.

Here is a little prayer for today

Today, I am the very best version of myself.

Today, I emerge from the cocoon fresh and clean and new. I am a
butterfly of great beauty. I know my beauty and own it completely.

I am free and able to fly. I am shiny and new and able to do all of
the things I have always dreamt of doing.

I choose to be this very best version of myself. I choose to act
and speak in this way. I make all of my decisions and choices from
the center of this butterfly version of myself, knowing that I am
this beautiful, this vibrant, this much a part of the world.

I love myself completely and embrace all that I am. I fly from
flower to flower and drink in the nectar of life. I am beauty, joy
and a deep peace. I am all that I wish to be, right now. I am.

Photo-"Cherry Tree" by Goddessheart-Rom Tom.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/6978GH-CherryTree.JPG

mariecstasy

08-17-2005, 01:05 AM

(((lionheart)))
you are beautiful....and i see many of the things i have thought and written in my own way and in my own times here.....i've often thought of the butterfly in this way....
and i am completely diggin the picture

moonlightdancer

08-17-2005, 01:20 AM

lionheart

beautiful - words cannot express my gratitude
i adore the picture, reminds me of an experience at the oregon country fair.

sylvanlightning

08-17-2005, 02:54 AM

Oh, my... these sweet lingering moments. :)

Lionheart2000

08-18-2005, 12:16 AM

Hi friends,
Muses are important to me-in my work in the past I found that many of my guides were actually muses and they are coming back to me now.

"Willingly I follow the Daimon
of my inspiration,
out on a limb,
into the fire,
through the darkness,
The archetype of the muse lives within each of us waiting to inspire us. When inspiration presents itself, like a multifaceted diamond, the choice also presents itself. Do I open to the inspiration, capturing its form to give it voice,or do I decide what is inspiring and what is not, and choose to hold the voice inside. We choose according to what we embrace and accept. Whose voice is it really, that tells you it is not ok to paint this or write about that? Is it yours or is it mine, or something in our imagination? It is within our risk taking that inspiration lies and within our fear where inspiration dies.

In my inner landscape,
my imagination,
lives a Goddess,God,
warrior, peacemaker,
villian and hero,
lion and lioness,
a king and a queen,
a child and an adult,
a devil and an angel,
wild woman and wild man,
a man and a woman,
united pairs...

Our ancestors live in our bones and in our blood. Do what ever it takes to run to meet them, and welcome them, and ask them to share thier wisdom with you. Bring them out of the shadows, into the light so you can integrate that part of you and be even more. Invite them to dance with you, ask them to show you new dance steps, and show them some of your own fancy moves.

Listen...
Observe...
Hear...
Love...

Leap off your platform of safety,

And FLY........."

- By my friend -K.M.-collage also!

(Daimon is an alternative spelling for daemon.)

Peace
LionHeart

oldwolf

08-18-2005, 04:19 AM

NAMASTE
my friend and Brother
Good to have you back
Love You

sylvanlightning

08-19-2005, 12:43 AM