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rocketdude1234
04-07-2005, 05:15 AM
I went ahead and took a bunch of pictures today .......
the largest plant is on its 7th node with two smaller nodes in each main node. (see pictures below) second largest one is on its 6th node and the smallest one is on its 5th.
the plant on the 6th node is crazy.....it has a set (which is supposed to b 5 leaves) one has 4 leaves and the other has 5 .....the next node up has 3 and 3....and the next node to come up i can see it only has 4 on one of the leaves. u can see below as well
all three plants r the same age and not close to same size
enjoy the pics
becuz i cant put more than five pics ill do a second post showing a few things i have questions about

rocketdude1234
04-07-2005, 05:18 AM
i noticed a few dead spots on a couple of leaves sets u can see below....
and the large plant has white spots which i have pictures of but its only on this one leaf

tiedye420
04-07-2005, 08:39 PM
Your big white spots seem to be from getting water on the leaf .It could be a deficiency but I seriously doubt it AT THAT AGE.UNLESS you have been overwatering and that makes it much more likely to be a def. The burned up edge defionetly looks like water burns.Be especially carful not to get any ferts on the leaf, or even plain water will burn them. (like a little magnafying glass on the leaf bro}

The little spots are thrips, or more likely spidermites. Inspect the bottom of that leaf- there shoukld be little white eggs and a couple little spider looking bugs about too small too see with your eye- almost. They are tiny but look real hard and you'll find them. AS SOON as you see them- remove the leaf before it spreads to the plant.
Get IVORY LIQUID DISHSOAP ivory classic is fine. mix about 1/2 teaspoon into a quart of plain ol tapwater- room temperature. mix them up in a new spraybottle, by shaking. keep shaking it as you spray the undersides of the leafs first- then spray the top of the leaves. Make sure you get every area well .
neem oil work the same way- but can damage your plants more than the mites if you screw up with the neem. Ivory is much better- not as likely to cause burn damage when you let the dry off good-before putting them under HID again.Ivory you can spray daily on them. But spraying it every two to three days should break the breeding cycle of spidermites. the only way to kill them off is to break that cycle, doesn't matter so much what you use, as it does HOW YOU USE it.
Spray your outdoor plants first thing in the morning- sunup to 8:00 or so . never IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY OR UNDER HID.unless,
I turn off my two 600 w hps I raise my aircooled 1000 watt up as high as i can get it. Then i'll spray them all with soap (or sometimes doc hornby piranha)- but never neem this way. If i use neem i remove and spray the plant- then when it is dry i repace it to the grow- but in a dark shady corner( under my carbon filter shelf-l.o.l.)
next day i'll return it to full light areas.
Thats about all I can tell you for now- i'll check back to see if you have questions later.
ivory is found at almost any drug-grocery store, it's with the dishoaps.
Ivory is phosphate free- but soap With phosphates will kill your plant by upsetting it's ph balance. Use only ivory. 30 year track record for me( but actually i was growing five years before i had the greenhouse epidemic with them- so more like 25 years.
tiedye _ aren't you lucky it's raining today- Im home with some time on my hands to give a real informative response.
And hey rocketdude Those plants look real nice, what strain ?, or are they just bagseed. I grow bagseed all the time- as long as it was my bag and i know what the weed was like. L.O.L.
Just wait until you see my latest creation- this will disprove the bagseed theory for most people. LANDRACE Bagseed can be real useful for STRENGTHENING CERTAIN CHARECTERISTICS.
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but mexican indica, though generally lower in thc than afghani or pakistani varieties, has a very high resistance to disease.
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Jon
04-07-2005, 09:06 PM
I had some Oasis plants that did something very similar I found that they wern't totally happy with too much heat and I dont know if its a reason or not but mine were feminised seeds??

Jon :)

rocketdude1234
04-08-2005, 03:42 AM
ummm not spider mites....nothin on the leaves.....and it seems to be less serious today.....another question.....one of my plants started a set of 5 leaves, one leaf was 4 and one 5.....the next node up they were 3 leaves again, and finally i can see the next set coming up and they're both 4 leaves......crazy.......is it a genetic deffect like dwarfism or somethign like that....the retard of the group

tiedye420
04-08-2005, 06:34 AM
YES THOSE ARE EITHER SPIDERMITES< OR THRIPS.
those little buggers are under the leaves if it's spidermites. You will need a magnafying glass to see them, unless your eyes are real good and you look UNDER the leaves real hard. I dont think it's thrips- the spots will get long, not round. Thrip spots only start out round.If they moved to another area you will see more spoits soon.
I just found my prized mother with spidermites, she was reverting to leaf and I just scraped about ahalf ounce of good bud from her, almost pure bracts.
But I have her on quaranteen, she gets neem and soap every two days for a week or two, and she is under flourex- not hid. With fifty plants growing in a 6x8 growroom, you have to be deadicated. Gratefully so.
probly a male or a mutant, usually the females will get more blades.
The other possibily is a change of light hours, when they bud they get 3 and eventually one blade at a time. If it is outside-in early spring this is common.
ROCKETMAN PLEASE, take a micro-shot of the bottom of that leaf with the tiny spots and look at it bro.You might be able to see them.
tiedye