Shooting Morphine Sulfate or Sulfide?????

[theworldisyours]

My friend has a vile of either morphine sulfide or sulfate. Can I shoot it and if so how much. Thanxxx

[EllisDTripp]

That would be morphine sulfATE.

If it is packaged as an injectable liquid, you can shoot it (assuming the vial is still sealed and the contents remain sterile). How much to inject depends on:

The concentration of the solution (mg/mL).
How you intend to inject it (IM, IV, or SQ).
Your body weight.
Your opiate tolerance.
How high you want to get. :)

Allow me to paraphrase Abbie Hoffman:

Avoid all needle drugs--The only dope worth shooting is the President! :)

[theworldisyours]

I weigh 140lbs, I want to get pretty high. My friend has a syringe already, and this will be my first injection so im kinda worried about fucking myself up. It is sterile and still in the little vial that they come in. So do you know a procedure that I should go about doing this? or just get a vein to pop up, make sure there's no air in the morphine, and have a good time? Thanxxxx

[EllisDTripp]

http://www.harmreduction.org/gor.html

[theworldisyours]

Man, im scxared about putting it into an artery instead of vein and after researching your site that you suggested, im kinda yurned off about shooting this, but ill always try something once. I still dont know how much to shoot.

[theworldisyours]

Hey ellis, have you ever done something like this? if so could you give me an easy, SAFE step by step on what to do man? appreciate all the help

[EllisDTripp]

The site I gave you is as safe as injecting drugs can be. It is written in simple layman's language, as it's intended audience is NOT medical professionals, but illegal drug users. If you cannot understand it, or it scares you off, maybe you should rethink this whole idea? If you are just "too busy" to read it, then you really need to get your priorities in line. You are talking about injecting a substance that can easily KILL in overdose, and you can't be bothered to find out everything you possibly can about it beforehand?!?!

As far as how much to use, you haven't said what the concentration (how many mg of morphine per mL) of the solution is. Without this info, it is IMPOSSBLE to say how much you should use. A search of Erowid's morphine vault would be a good place to begin to estimate your dose once you know what you have:

http://www.erowid.org/pharms/morphine/morphine.shtml

There are safer alternatives to injecting the stuff, like evaporating the solution and snorting or swallowing the powder residue.

If you really need somebody to do all your research for you, are you REALLY sure that you are responsible and knowledgable enough to be fucking around with a potentially deadly, potentially addictive substance like morphine? :rolleyes:

[Maggie Sugar]

Man, im scxared about putting it into an artery instead of vein and after researching your site that you suggested, im kinda yurned off about shooting this, Maybe it is a good idea to listen to your instincts. (and to Ellis........)

[kris_p]

i'm just going to copy and paste what i wrote in your last post...

i personally have no experience injecting drugs, but my advice to you is that you shouldnt do it...at 16 years old, i honestly dont think you should be injecting morphine

i've recently been taking slow release morphine pills (60mg) and 1 pill is enough to give me a nice, relaxed high..i really enjoy it

i know you may flame me, but that is just my opinion...but you are free to yours, and enjoy whatever you choose! just be safe!!

cheers

kris

[theworldisyours]

Okay guys, thanx for all the rplys. I have one mg in a vial that only holds 2.5mg. I dont have it on hand so that is all i can tell you. I DID read more up on the web site. It was a whole lot of help. I do not have my priorities out of order. Its just that time IS a factor with this. Im totally ready for this expierince tho.

[EllisDTripp]

Are you sure about that dosage? 2.5 mg of morphine is a pretty small dose, with typical IV dosages being more in the range of 5-10 mg for severe pain.

Do you really mean you have 1 milligram of morphine, or do you mean 1 milliliter of solution in the vial? You still haven't provided the CONCENTRATION of the solution, which is stated in milligrams PER milliliter.

If all you have is one mg of morphine, you won't get very high from it....

[Faerie]

Man, im scxared about putting it into an artery instead of vein and after researching your site that you suggested, im kinda yurned off about shooting this, but ill always try something once. I still dont know how much to shoot.The time difference of Ellis post of the site and your post of "Afrer Researching your site you suggested" is 12 minutes... I hope your scared after only looking at that for 12 minutes... Spend some time learning it if you intent on doing it..

[theworldisyours]

thank you for telling me how long i read the site. But were you with me last night? I didnt think you were but i wasnt sure cuz you sounded so fucking matter of factly. I read it last night for quite some time and learned alot. anyway. It is ONE MIlliLiter. I do not know the concentration, as it is not on hand. So i WONT get too high? Bummer. thanx again for all the help

[EllisDTripp]

It is ONE MIlliLiter. I do not know the concentration, as it is not on hand. So i WONT get too high?

You OBVIOUSLY don't comprehend the very basics of the concept. Morphine sulfate is a white powder. To prepare it for injection, it is dissolved in water to form a solution. MS will dissolve in water IN ANY PROPORTION up to approximately 60 milligrams per ml of water.

One milliliter of a morphine solution could contain anything from nothing (pure water) to 60 mg of morphine (a saturated solution), which would be a whopping overdose. NOBODY can tell you how much of the solution to inject, unless you know how much morphine is IN each ml of solution. This is spelled out on the label of the vial. Without this VITAL INFO, you have NO WAY to know if you have barely enough morphine to get high, or enough to KILL YOU DEAD.

Perhaps you need to forget about injecting ANYTHING, and learn what you are doing before you hurt yourself....

[headymoechick]

I don't think you are ready at all. read my relpy in the opiate forum.

if you can't even distinguish what an opiate is you aren't ready to be sticking a fucking needle inyour arm

[psychoactive321]

yea i read the post in opiates before reading this... and it only shows what heady and myself said in earlier posts 2 be very accurate.. man ur 16 u dont no wat ur doing an ur messing w/ powerful drugs and using powerful ways of administration.. not a good combination.. best of luck 2 wat ever decision u make

[headymoechick]

Does it bother anyone else that he hasn't posted since he asked this?

[EllisDTripp]

Does it bother anyone else that he hasn't posted since he asked this?

Nope.

He couldn't be bothered to do any reading, and didn't like the answers that he got when he asked questions. He was repeatedly advised NOT to screw around with this stuff, and was apparently ready to ignore everybody's advice.

If he went on to "chlorinate the gene pool", my conscience is clear, as I gave him the best advice I could under the circumstances. If he chose to ignore our advice, that was his own decision, and the consequences are his own doing.

[headymoechick]

I still care. I guess I can't help it. I hate that about me.

[Maggie Sugar]

The aim of Harm Reduction is to give people accuate infomation and to encourage them to research for themselves. The responsibility of someone who has drugs in their possesion is thier own.

I don't want anyone ODing either, but this dude was given a lot of GOOD accurate info from a number of people who know what they are talking about. If his vial contained 60 mgs of ms in a 2.5 ml solution, it could be quite dangerous, as Ellis said. If the OP wasn't willing to find out what concentration the drug in solution was, it is up to him.

I care, too, but I don't feel responsible when people do stupid things, when they were given accurate information.

sigh

[headymoechick]

I certainly don't feel responsible, it's not keeping me up at night.

I just worry.

[Maggie Sugar]

Yeah, I know. I do hope he is OK. Maybe he never even took it. A lot of times people will come here with a question and then never reply. It makes you wonder.

[headymoechick]

yeah, that's what got to me. Oh,well. I have me to think about right this second.

I just think about it because I have seen the horrible things it has done to close friends and I wouldn't want my worst enemy to try shooting anyhting.

[JimiWhizZ]

yeah headymoechick ESPECIALLY at the age of SIXTEEN i personally think its retarded...

today its morphene... tomorrow its smack...
and then whats he gonna use to get off the smack?
fucking chocolate?
hell i wasnt even smoking dope at sixteen

'the world is yours' ha great name, well it certainly aint YOURS!...

i hope you read this and realise that there is more to life than gettin high and that 'while drugs can be used to enhance lifes beauty they should never be used to replicate it' (someone else posted this before)
whole things a joke there is no future for this planet
sixteen??!!!! go somke some weed and play your xbox, life cant be that boring.

[headymoechick]

that was my quote. remember it!!

"drugs should be used to enhance the beauty of life, not become the focal point"

[psychoactive321]

that was my quote. remember it!!

"drugs should be used to enhance the beauty of life, not become the focal point"
"Opiates will eat your life and you will still love it" actually opiates will become your life.

[JimiWhizZ]

that was my quote. remember it!!

"drugs should be used to enhance the beauty of life, not become the focal point"yeah your version's better hon! :)

its so true though aint it?

I dont know about where you guys are from but marlborough st in Dublin 1, Ireland, would put you off shooting up anything for life... fucking zombies always so vacant and dangerously scary looking. I hate my city sometimes, especially that area. It is so sick and I have to get my bus from around there whenever I wanna get home from college or town.
Any Dubliner would agree that Marlborough st., Lower Abbey St., Talbot St. area= fuckin scum-ridden, shit hole! (aka: pee pee soaked hell hole :p )

Anyway bottom line:
Its mainly down to the homeless problem, made worse, and in alot of cases caused by the drugs, and ignored by our fucking dickhead government! :mad: Heroin is a death sentence in most cases
and I wouldnt wish that kind of suffering on anyone even an Taoseach (prime minister) Bertie Ahearn even though that fucking Lap dog probably deserves it.