Does marijuana really kill brain cells...

[sanelycrazy]

Or is that just some form of propaganda that I believed?

[Duck]

even if it does people only use a small amount of their brain

[StonerBill]

before anyone goes on about how carbon monoxide kills brain cells, to the extent that the notion of 'killing brain cells' implies, no, marijuana does not kill brain cells.

it does technically destroy brain cells but its less than cigarettes (and do you ever see them associated with killing brain cells?)

[stephaniesomewhere]

that doco tonight had some interesting stuff about this, as in where the blood flow was going to the brain after smoking pot, which I am inferring meant what were the active parts of the brain but I might have understood that wrong so please correct me if you know better, and how these parts of the brain were the same places that someone suffering from psychosis had as active. didn't mean you were psychotic just meant that it disposed you towards it....I figure that is as worth thinking about as actually losing brain cells in the traditional sense of the word.
was interesting, wether it changes my own opnion of pot I don't know but it certainly changed my opinion of some other people's pt use!!
:)

[b1v2w3]

"killing braincells" should be thought about as "killing stomach cells" when you think about it as ?who is doing the killing? If the higher authority does not consider the consumption supportable, the higher authority will declare it undesirable. If you're able to absorb critical scientific investigation into what a substance does onto your body, read the "Scientific American" 's Dec. 2004 edition article: "The drugs in everybody's brain". b1

[Mui]

Holding your breath kills brain cells.

[b1v2w3]

breathing excessively deep and rapid kills braincells. b1

[b1v2w3]

and stephany somehere, let me just say that you got that right but it is also more like that when you have a tendency to have like this or that the pot will enhance that tendency or suppress that tendency but it will definitly not create that tendency. And that's why pot is not too scary. it just works with what you already are.b1

[StonerBill]

well would you say a person with such a disease should be considered sober?

i dont

neither is being stoned

theyre both altered states of mind, and there are only so many areas that our brain uses. there would be a psychological diease that is the result of an altered action of certain areas of the brain. and so for every drug, there will most probably be a psychological disease related to it. weeds effects the same parts of the brain that psychosis does.
if a drug didnt have a disease related to that part of the brain, then it would not be considered a gateway to any disease. eg cigarettes. however since weed does have a corresponding psychological disease, its made out that it causes that disease.

weed in someone who is more susceptable to psychological disease leads to psychosis but at the same time, psychosis to someone who is more likely to be a stoner leads to weed.

its not like weed is the key to psychological disease is some 'evil' motive or direction of weed. its just an inherit side affect.

look everyone im really sorry, but i dont know what point i originally had and i dont even remember what this thread is about now or what this post is except that im writing in it and now i will end

[b1v2w3]

thanks for ending it bill!
Smoking pot does not cause brain function disorders! brain function disorders (of any type) do not lead to smoking pot! thc acts as an activator of certain feedback mechanisms in various brain structures. One of the more prominent ones is the cerebellum. This organ is fully dedicated to the function that is called "motor function" and is outside of the area where disorders such as psychosis occur. Other areas get affected as well, for example the area where the short term memory holds data from moment to moment (so we know where we put down that screwdriver momentarily in order to blow our nose) is completely diabled for a while but recovers without much change. And these are only a few examples. I would encourage all y'all to access science articles written for lay people (so as to avoid excessively technical terminlogy) to really become informed as to what is what. Even sincerely done TV doco's create many misconceptions by being too generalized or dramatizing some aspects more then others and swaying impressions from the balanced! Here's something to help you further if you're interested (and capable): [Everyone interested in knowing how cannabis use affects the brain should read the article in the Dec. 2004 edition of the Scientific American: The drugs inside EVERYONE'S brain]b1

[StonerBill]

"Smoking pot does not cause brain function disorders! brain function disorders (of any type) do not lead to smoking pot!"

i think thats what i was going to go towards.

but that it does make the other more likely. well its really obscure, i have a concept, i recalled it from when i was writing that post, but now i realise i cant put it into words. i understand why i was having trouble then. lol but now ive forgotten the thread topic again

"weed in someone who is more susceptable to psychological disease leads to psychosis but at the same time, psychosis to someone who is more likely to be a stoner leads to weed." this was meant to be 'by concluding through this method...' by the obsrvation above it

[twiztidrainbow]

that doco tonight had some interesting stuff about this, as in where the blood flow was going to the brain after smoking pot, which I am inferring meant what were the active parts of the brain but I might have understood that wrong so please correct me if you know better, and how these parts of the brain were the same places that someone suffering from psychosis had as active. didn't mean you were psychotic just meant that it disposed you towards it....I figure that is as worth thinking about as actually losing brain cells in the traditional sense of the word.
was interesting, wether it changes my own opnion of pot I don't know but it certainly changed my opinion of some other people's pt use!!
:)
I agree chick.

[purple_granola]

as do i

[SG69]

From what I've learned in the past it does kill brain cells, but I've been reading up on recent studies and what not and some say it does and some say it doesn't. I guess it all depends on what research article you read. Different studies on it have different views and outcomes. I'm willing to bet that if it doesn't kill them it does something nasty to them like make them weak or non functional.

[SirTokesAlot]

100000000000000 other things kill brain cells, but do you hear them exploiting that? NO! I forgot what the actual statistic was, but you lose brain cells on a regular basis, they dont live long as it is. So even if "pot destroyes brain cells".... fine, just add that on to the long list of things that already do

[omnip0d]

yes, marijuana does kill braincells. infact, after smoking marijuana just once you damage your brain so extensively that logical thought is no longer possible. bwuahahahaha.

[rangerdanger]

Existing kills brain cells.

[NatureFreak412]

Even if it does think about the size of cells, they are so small you cannot see them, so obviously your brain has about 907809870984750982347509238475093248754 of them.

[SirTokesAlot]

God of course marijuana kills braincells!! everyone knows its worse then crack, and if u smoke too much weed, it will KILL YOU! Marijuana is the worst drug ever... and it will make you a loser! And... most of all... its BAD.. cuz drugs are BAD!!!!!! GAHH!!

[NatureFreak412]

Not to mention the fact you will become morbidly obese from the deadly munchitis.

And its illegal. you should NEVER do anything to break the law!!! like speak your mind!!

[boothy]

^Yeah, I'm gonna report you to the authorities for even suggesting it. Big brother is watching you!

[Twizz]

you all have it wrong... Lack of oxygen to the cells means they have nothing to live off of, so they die. Smoking anything kills brain cells.

[NatureFreak412]

you all have it wrong... Lack of oxygen to the cells means they have nothing to live off of, so they die. Smoking anything kills brain cells.
It takes over 5 minutes for the cells to die with lack of oxygen... if that was the case every time you go swimming you are killing brain cells...

[omnip0d]

yes kids all drugs are bad!...except for alcohol, nicotine, and caffiene! cuz the government says so! and you have to believe everything the government tells you or else you'll be shot for being traitorous scum!!!

[SirTokesAlot]

gahhhhh!!

[StonerBill]

the tiny bit of braincell damage can come from carbom monoxide that comes from burning organic things. however canabis also protects brain cell damage, according to sources, so it could protect partly against itself

[matty bates]

some of u guys are fuc%in idiots it does kill brain cells and there is not like millions of effin things that kill brain cells people who say that are on fuc%in crack and it is not worse that cigerittes idiots who think the so fu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SG69]

It doesn't. You have natural cannabinoids in your brain called endocannabinoids. When you smoke weed the cannabinoids in the THC attach to the endo ones in your brain but doesn't kill any cells.

[Reefer Rogue]

The only thing i've heard about this is that cannabis kill gliomi cells which are potentially cancer causing. The point has been made and I will repeat it for emphasis:


'Cannabis kills brain cells'

Reply: So do alcohol and tobacco which kill hundreds of thousands of people a year and are legal. It's all a capitalist, inequal hypocracy. We are all born free, why does this government offical who is equal to you, is human, why should anyone have the right to dictate over you with their 'power' Whether they possess more material goods, have more capital and properties, they will all die, just like I.

[SG69]

Some interesting reading material that may shed some light on this topic:

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html#myth12

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20051015/fob7.asp

http://www.endocannabinoid.net/ecsoverview/default.aspx#163

http://www.nature.com/nature/links/040916/040916-9.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoids - scroll down to find endocannabinoid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoid_system

If those don't catch your attention here are some more:

http://www.digg.com/health/Study_shows_marijuana_increases_brain_cell_growth_ 2

http://www.irishscientist.ie/2004/contents.asp?contentxml=04isp92a.xml&contentxsl=is04pages.xsl

http://cannabis.net/brain/marijuana.html

Google is your friend on the internet.

[SirTokesAlot]

another 3yr old thread... AWSOME

[SG69]

another 3yr old thread... AWSOME
Hahahaha!

[weedwhacker]

it does not kill braincells that is propaganda that emerged during the reefer madness age.

[DepTh]

All those seconds you've gone with out breathing is depleating the brain of its oxygen supply and that is whats killing them but not at an alarming rate.. just eat fish

[chugtonio]

Everyone can say what they want about how holding your breathe kills brain cells as well; but it still must be mentioned that short term memory loss and inability to learn as well on pot can really get to you if you smoke a lot

If you smoke at least 2 times a week you will notice this and you can't deny it
In math I have trouble focusing and retaining split second short term memory
Basically connecting the dots with math, knowing sequences of steps in finding the answer is a bitch while high

I think its more of a matter of how people use the fact that they are high as an excuse why they can pass on a homework or watch tv for an extra hour or two

The lazyness gets to you but apart from that, I find weed as a motivator in all cases except math lol

[Hesh]

hmm i never was good at math to begin with, but i did learn a few things while i was completely baked. like Macramé. i find weed as a motivator aswell, i can get so absorbed/focused into what im doing. some studies show that brain cells may re-generate under certain circumstances... in the hippocampus, which is involved in learning and memory. also that new cell growth is most likely substantially greater in younger, healthy adults.

[Hesh]

oh yeah, and those tests were on 50 to 70 year olds... so u could lose/damage some cells in accident etc..., but they can come back... and i just found this video u should check out:

http://www.sethgroup.org/videos.html

the THC kills all cancer cells but leaves normal brain cells alive...

[Old Stoner]

I have thoroughly enjoyed killing many many brain cells, myself. The less brain cells the better...

Remember the old saying, "The less they think I know the better." ??

[overactive imaginati]

hardly... http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain

[d4wt]

most cannabanoids are actually neuroprotective. i do believe once activated (decarboxylized) they take on different effects that may or may not have a positive aftermath on our neurological system. there are however SEVERAL documents that seem to support the idea that they are in fact not as harmful as everyone has speculated...

http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/content/full/21/17/6475
http://www.ionchannels.org/showabstract.php?pmid=15836919