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eurohim
03-06-2005, 01:32 AM
I have a question. I'm going to be growing Cannabis on my balcony from seeds I got from this really good weed (A few puffs and the stoners can't walk, with no headache) and was wondering if I need any males. Males are brown right? So if something comes up as a male, is it good to just let it grow, or does it need to be there to fertelize the females so that I get more seeds? How does that work? This is my first attempt and growing anything.
Oh, and my Balcony faces nothing but trees, and is way up there, so it is nice and private.
eurohim
03-06-2005, 01:35 AM
Also, I just read in another thread that one should avoid miracle grow. Is that true?
Kosmic_Klown
03-14-2005, 01:00 AM
there is no way of telling what sex the plant is until it grows. The ph level of the soil is the most determining factor. If the soil is like 7.0 and above you should have a good chance of growing female plants. You want females because they produce "flowers" which are the buds. Use plenty of nitrogen in the soil when it first starts growing. once you start induceing flowering increase phospherous dosing and also calcium for the soils ph level
geckopelli
03-14-2005, 01:04 AM
Nothing personal- but your question labels you too naive to make a start on.
Male and female cannabis plants- like humans - are the same with different sexual attributes.
You better read a book. Then ask questions which will help you understand.
eurohim
03-14-2005, 04:41 AM
Or you can answer his questions and be supportive instead of putting him down. You'll learn a lot more than trying and failing. At least that's how I work.
geckopelli
03-14-2005, 04:52 AM
" Males are brown right? "
Yea-brown chlorophyll!
Answering none-sensical questions is a waste of everybodies time.
eurohim
03-14-2005, 06:30 AM
Helping someone understand is wasted? If they're asking non-sensical questions, then they need guidance. Saying, "read a book" as a response isn't guidence, it is deflection. I'm sure you, with all your expert knowledge, can answer any question someone asks in a couple sentences in a very basic way. It is kind of like when you asked your parents the meaning of a word and instead of telling you, they told you to look it up (because they didn't know).
xtwin96
03-16-2005, 07:15 PM
hey man, dont be an ass because you know more than everybody else (sure). anyways i cant tell you how to identify the males at an early age but i can tell you if you find out, dig them up and take them somewhere else. i never let the males stay around my ladies because i like non-pollinated buds. i dont know about the maricle grow thing, but i use tomato fertilizer and it works very nicely. good luck with the plants and happy growing
geckopelli
03-16-2005, 11:18 PM
one needs a basic understanding of plants to be a successful grower- there are no short cuts.
Anyone who can grow about anything can grow weed. but cannabis growing with zero knowledge of plant life is a big bite; especially for one who refuses to read up on the subject.
eurohim
03-17-2005, 12:35 AM
Trial by error is the most fun. I will have some White Widow seeds to play with soon.
geckopelli
03-17-2005, 03:19 AM
...or you could get a fundemental grounding and be successful the first time- your choice.
Mighty Mezz
03-17-2005, 05:34 PM
Hey Geck...If these young 'uns wont listen to your voice of experience in regards to growing weed, imagine trying to teach them history or math. To you young fellows, I say, "Pay attention, get the chip off your shoulder....the man is trying to teach you something!!"
eurohim
03-17-2005, 07:32 PM
He's not trying to teach anything, he's just redirecting and insulting.
Sycth
03-28-2005, 08:18 PM
white widow is for a experienced grower try starting off with nothern lights its a more forgiving strian....
you should do ALOT of reading before you start to grow if you dont want to waste your time. theres lots of information on the web i mean alot try http://overgrow.com/ its a great site
eurohim
03-29-2005, 12:48 AM
Thanks
Oahugrown
04-06-2005, 04:39 AM
A little basic knowledge of growing and horticulture would be of great benefit. Before you stick valuable seeds in a pot on the balcony, read up first, the seeds will hold until you get to speed. There are many variables to consider, time of year, light, dark, flower removal, male vs. female, pruning..... You get the picture, and to see the picture you need some knowledge.
I grow in my back yard, in a west facing alcove between a garage wall and a lava rock wall 10ft high. Morning intense light, noon to around 3 direct sun and then evening waning light and good darkness. Presently, I am growing 6 white widow plants culled from 20 from which 15 sprouted. The remainder were destroyed purposely due to space limitations.( my wahine over planted against my judgement).
This is my 12th crop in as many years in the same spot, always grown in 5gal. pots, always grown in potting soil, vermiculite, and I use miricle grow, you don't want the water to look like airplane toilet water, just a light blue tint, that is enough.
I am not a rocket scientist when it comes to growing this stuff, and granted I live in Hawaii where the weather is pretty stable all year, but some knowledge will be very helpful before hand.
freedbypeace
05-01-2005, 08:16 PM
whoa guys chill!
freedbypeace
05-01-2005, 08:18 PM
When I first started I was like that too. I mean I did get a book on growing and did my research like you said, but I would never put anyone down for not knowing. He just wondered about fertilization which I thgink is logical enough if you know anything about other kinds of plants(notbud). Just be happy!!! :)
Becknudefck
05-01-2005, 08:20 PM
the females are the ones with all the buds. If you want to produce more seeds make sure you have a male and a female to pollinate the female, or you could make more plants from cuttings.
eurohim
05-03-2005, 12:30 AM
I saw some pics. Females have pistols and males have balls. haha
Orsino2
05-20-2005, 10:32 PM
Um... yes... like any plant.
Start reading overgrow.
grouchy_old_dude
05-21-2005, 01:40 PM
"Free Grow Guides"....online
http://www.geocities.com/auto112387/reading/grow.html
MJ Botany (http://www.mellowgold.com/grow/mjbotany-removed/)
http://www.cannabis-marijuana-seeds.com/guide/germination.php
..because you can never have too many resources.
Iron Butterfly
06-13-2005, 10:41 PM
www.overgrow.com
go to their FAQ and their is a nice guide on how to grow.
rangerdanger
06-14-2005, 05:40 AM
I agree (for once) with gecko--read.
I sure as fuck wish I'd had a grow book back in '67 when I started to grow. It would have saved me sooooo much hassle.
The first few years I didn't even know how to get buds--I just grew it and picked the leaves throughout the summer or late summer (when there was no weed around) if I could wait that long. By the time Sept. rolled around the plants were dead. I could never understand why the pot I grew (leaves) didn't look like the pot I bought, or why it didn't get me very high. One year I forgot about this one plant behind the garage. I was cleaning up weeds back there in late Oct. when I found it. Only 18" tall but HEY! BUDS!!
If I had known that from the git-go I would have harvested a lot more buds (and been the envy of my friends cause NO ONE knew how to get buds).
A growbook is especially good if you haven't ever grown anything before. Most grow books help you understand how things grow, knowledge that you can use to grow lots of stuff like veggie's.
Trial and error is fine if you don't care if you grow any buds or not.
The more you know the more you'll grow.
Nolan14
06-25-2005, 07:22 AM
" Males are brown right? "
hey man nice growing place real private, I wish I could get a place like that.
again, nothing personal but think before you talk, ninth grade biology has taught thousands of young folk that anything in the plantae kingdom uses chloiphill and all chlorifill is green, google weed growing or something about it, thats how I found what I know, females are taller, w/ flowers and better weed. ninth grade also taught me that or good sex(reproduction)it take xx-xy chromosomes (except for some african tree frogs which arent plants) so it would probably help haveing dude plants to band the dudette plants to make wee little new plants.
Nolan14
06-25-2005, 07:30 AM
Hey Geck...If these young 'uns wont listen to your voice of experience in regards to growing weed, imagine trying to teach them history or math. To you young fellows, I say, "Pay attention, get the chip off your shoulder....the man is trying to teach you something!!"tru dat
he/we arent insulting you were helping you
Im 15 yers old, and dont smoke/drink yet I know tons more than my freinds cause i listen and read, (apparently I dont listen enou cause next moonth im in summerschool 4 biology) but listen to those older than you on everything exept disipline and you will learn tons and be thankfull for what you have
rangerdanger
06-25-2005, 04:06 PM
I'm beginning to understand why you failed biology.
Male pot plants are taller than females. They need to be, their pollen is windbourne.
Female plants don't grow flowers. They grow buds.
Males do grow primitive flowers, tiny little banana-shaped things that are exposed as the pollen sacs on the male plant open.
See Nolan, flowers exist for only 1 reason: to attrack pollenators like bee's (and in the case of the suaro cactus, bats). But prob. over 99% of pot pollen uses wind, not insects, to get around, so they never really had to develop true flowers, they were doing fine without that. Plants with true flowers evolved later.
Btw Nolan, do you know that marijuana is one of the few plants on earth that have seperate sexes? Almost every other plant has both sexes on the same plant.
(although marijuana plants can sometimes contain both; these are called hermaprodites. They are often caused when the plant experiences stress; it's a survival technique). But most are either male or female.
Nolan14
06-26-2005, 06:56 AM
wow thanks, i read the wrong stuff, thanks for helping
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