themnax
06-01-2004, 10:46 AM
we're creating our collective futures right now all the time by everything we think and do and have be more and less important to us and especialy all the little things we never think about. and the sooner we stop carelessly screwing it up the sooner the better it will be. of course the converse is also true. but it isn't a matter of being fated. it's all a matter of what we're actualy doing.
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oh sure there's gods and spirit people and all that, whatever you want to call them too. but it ain't them that's doin it. it's all us and all up to the collective defacto consensus of our own actual individual selves.
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it's between how things actualy work, of which we have considerable though incomplete knowledge, and how we act and what we do. not how some nontangable thing or many of them react to how we act and what we do, but how it effects and interacts with how things actualy work.
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i'm not saying the nontangable couldn't 'intervene' to some extent if it felt like it, but trying to pretend that it is in the habbit of doing so when it is clearly not, is more then anything else a kind of collective denial of the simple reality of our own defacto collective statistical influence
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oh sure there's gods and spirit people and all that, whatever you want to call them too. but it ain't them that's doin it. it's all us and all up to the collective defacto consensus of our own actual individual selves.
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it's between how things actualy work, of which we have considerable though incomplete knowledge, and how we act and what we do. not how some nontangable thing or many of them react to how we act and what we do, but how it effects and interacts with how things actualy work.
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i'm not saying the nontangable couldn't 'intervene' to some extent if it felt like it, but trying to pretend that it is in the habbit of doing so when it is clearly not, is more then anything else a kind of collective denial of the simple reality of our own defacto collective statistical influence