Activism?

[harshhookah]

So why do I see all these posts about people in the U.S being so pissed off about the plant being illegal, but I only see 3 posts in the activism forum? Maybe that is the number 1 problem why it is frowned on. People not opening up and representing our democracy. I sure as hell know the anti-pot people are getting their word out due to our Government and its so called "Propeganda." :confused: Sometimes this leads me to think that more students should take their government classes more serious. Learn whats out there and how to deal with it.

For those who havent studied democracy yet, I took the liberty to look it up on www.dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com)





Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
A political or social unit that has such a government.
The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
Majority rule.
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
Thank You for reading.

[Spastic_Monkey]

*applauds*

[Jointman69]

practice what you preach.

[element7]

Well alot of people on the MJ forums still live with their moms and dads and worry about what their parents will do to them if they speak up about it, like take away the allowance, ground them, not buy them nice clothes, unplug the tv, make them get a haircut, who knows. To boot, seems there's lots of kids around here who have a stealth approach to the whole matter and would much rather that mom and dad don't even suspect, they're just little angels.

[USNavyDeadHead]

wELL THE BIG PROBLEM IS THAT MOST POT HEADS ARE TOO FUCKIN HIGH TO GET UP AND BE AN ACTIVIST! WHO WANTS TO BE AN ACTIVIST MAN? FIRE IT UP AND LETS PLAY X-BOX

[element7]

Damn, I knew I forgot something.... they might take away the x-box!!!!!!

[headymoechick]

I am an active member of norml thank-you-very-much!! I guess I don't feel the need to post all I've done or what I plan to do because... well.. I just do it.

Anyone else a member? How many of you have gone to rallys and what ones do you go to?

[harshhookah]

wELL THE BIG PROBLEM IS THAT MOST POT HEADS ARE TOO FUCKIN HIGH TO GET UP AND BE AN ACTIVIST! WHO WANTS TO BE AN ACTIVIST MAN? FIRE IT UP AND LETS PLAY X-BOX
Yep thats what im trying to get at.

[Gurkadurk]

I speak about it and don't have an x-box.

[Jointman69]

I am an active member of norml thank-you-very-much!! I guess I don't feel the need to post all I've done or what I plan to do because... well.. I just do it.

Anyone else a member? How many of you have gone to rallys and what ones do you go to?
man what has norml ever done besides take your money? sure its an informational site and they arent bad people but they have been around forever and so far i havent heard of them changing anything. cheech wears a norml shirt in one of the cheech and chong movies(i think it was nice dreams) and that was made like 20 or 30 years ago.

[headymoechick]

I've attended a bunch of events sponsered by norml. They always give great speaches about what we can do in our hometown and with local government and I find it very inspiring. I've met a buch of hip activists. I go to a few rallies throughout the year.

It's all about raising awarness. If I can change one person's mind about legalizing pot, I've done a good thing.

hmm... I wonder who gave me rep for this? It's gray so it doesn't count, but no comment, no name? not too brave of you whoever you are! or if it was a good one at least let me thank you!

[Jointman69]

wuddnt me. id sign it. i hate when pussies give red ones and make a dick comment and dont sign it.

[TheLizardKingMike]

I speak about it and don't have an x-box.I hear that man

[Amanda's Shadow]

well, my parents are very cool about everything i do. also, im too busy with theater (which i choose to do, not my rents) to protest all the time, and for me, I'd much rather protest the war or horrible environmental policies in my state.

[BradinTheGreat]

Well alot of people on the MJ forums still live with their moms and dads and worry about what their parents will do to them if they speak up about it, like take away the allowance, ground them, not buy them nice clothes, unplug the tv, make them get a haircut, who knows. To boot, seems there's lots of kids around here who have a stealth approach to the whole matter and would much rather that mom and dad don't even suspect, they're just little angels.I'm not worried about being grounded or whatnot, and I'm definitely not trying to be a "little angel". It's hard to really speak my mind about mj, because I'm living with my parents. My mom and dad are super anti- recreational use, but they're only slightly anti- about industrial and medicinal use. Last year I told my mom I was thinking about donating to NORML or Change the Climate, Inc., and she pretty much flipped out. I don't have my license either, so it's hard to get to rallies and other events. As soon as I can drive and get a car, I'm planning on going to as many pro- events as possible. I've done research for over three years now, and I see no reason why grass shouldn't be legalized, especially if it can help people and the environment.

If anyone knows any ways to donate without my parents finding out, please pm me. I need any help I can get.

Peace

[BradinTheGreat]

Hey Amanda's Shadow! That's cool your into theatre. I've been doing stage/tech crew stuff for a couple years. I really like it, and I'm thinking about becoming a professional gaffer. Peace

[headymoechick]

so basically what I'm hearing is that you guys beleive in it, but have better things to do.
Don't we all. But it's those of us who sacrifice our time who are making a difference.

I really thought I would find other people here who are devoted to the cause.

soemtimes I get so frustrated that everyone's too stoned to get up off their ass I think no one should be able to smoke weed unless they contribute to legalizing it. It's a dumb thought, but not a lot of people will do any more than hitting up a local rally and smoking in the park.

[FunkyPhreshMama]

i have gone to the million marijuana march in raleigh and signed petitions and so on... and i wold give to norml if i had the money i happen to think they are a pretty good organization!!!!!!!!!

[headymoechick]

that's awesome chica!! It's not all about giving money to an organization. I do it, but i also attend a lot of gatherings and talk to spokesmen and I love to hear all of their ideas. I remember one year at the Boston freedom rally, ther was this guy who talked about how one little town had almost been completely taken over by younger people and it worked beautifully. the mayor was 25. the police cheif was 30. They targeted robbers and violence, not teenagers smoking a plant. There was a low crime rate, and a high education rate. It was so awesome to hear about. If every one of us made a difference in out little hometowns or big cities, pot could really be legalized. They have to listen to the people.

[moondance]

"I really thought I would find other people here who are devoted to the cause."

There are many people here and elsewhere who are devoted to the cause but for various reasons can't do it publicly.

I myself and many many more people produce the stuff so of necessity have to remain anonymous.

I try to help by attending the annual Legalize Cannabis march in London and by financial donations (anonymous of course) to various legalization campaigners.

And I know many others do the same.

So please don't think that just because we're not all shouting "legalize it" from the rooftops that we're not doing anything.

[headymoechick]

you've never even posted in this thread so how could I have been talking about you??

and the anonymous thing is bullshit. If you really beleive in it, you should be able to express your feelings publicly. If you can't you're obviously too afraid of what everyone else thinks of you and that's the attitude we need to stop.

Sure, you can slip a few bucks here and there to the cause, but we need more people to stand up and shout legalize it and not so many who give money and slip away without having to do the actual work- facing the public!

[FunkyPhreshMama]

i don't really hide anything, i am not a BIG smoker as I don't smoke often at all, just to go to bed if I have a migrane or something. but i see no reason why it shouldnt be legal.

[moondance]

"you're obviously too afraid of what everyone else thinks of you"

Absolutely not.
My concern is about a spell in prison.
As I said, I grow, and I'm not about to risk going to prison unecessarily.

[headymoechick]

you will never go to prison for speaking your mind.
the smart thing to do is to stand up and tell people how you feel.

Not stand up and smoke a fatty in front of people.

Your a dumb ass anyway. Admitting you grow pot on the net can come back to bite you. I don't know the laws in England, but I know pot ain't legal.

If you were really that scared of going to prison, you would watch what you say.

So you won't stand up for the legalization of pot, yet you'll openly admit you grow it?

and your concern is prison. hmm....

[element7]

I'm not worried about being grounded or whatnot, and I'm definitely not trying to be a "little angel". It's hard to really speak my mind about mj, because I'm living with my parents. My mom and dad are super anti- recreational use, but they're only slightly anti- about industrial and medicinal use. Last year I told my mom I was thinking about donating to NORML or Change the Climate, Inc., and she pretty much flipped out. I don't have my license either, so it's hard to get to rallies and other events. As soon as I can drive and get a car, I'm planning on going to as many pro- events as possible. I've done research for over three years now, and I see no reason why grass shouldn't be legalized, especially if it can help people and the environment.

If anyone knows any ways to donate without my parents finding out, please pm me. I need any help I can get.

Peace
yeah, sometimes I can be a grumpy ol' bastard. I guess much of my comment stems from what I see locally. There's a ton of people around where I live that smoke pot all the time (who don't live with their parents) yet run around in hiding. They won't for a second back you up if you get into a debate over legalization in a public setting, no they'll sit there quietly and let you take all the heat. Then after they're like" Yeah, alright dude!" when noone is looking and you just want to smack em'. Just a little tired of people who are all too willing to let someone else fight for them while they sit on the sidelines. That only hurts the movement, we need people to stand up and be counted, not a fuggin peanut gallery.

So, didn't mean to really bash anybody even though it came out like that. I understand what parents are about. One time when I was 16 my mom busted me and a friend smokin' out of an aluminum foil pipe. I crumbled it up, stuck it in my pocket. She searched my pockets, opened up the foil, saw the black stuff and shouted "Your'e smoking CRACK!!!!" She made my friend walk six miles back to his house and I was grounded for a month as well as made to watch all these videos about crack. Now, years later, we sit around and laugh about it together. Maybe time is the best thing.

[see in blonde]

Moe, first of all internet posts are inadmissable in court. Not only that, but the cops would need multiple warrants just to get that guys IP address. Plus the fact that the server is in a different country than the poster.

Above and beyond that, you completely missed his point, which was very valid. A fuckload of smokers in the US are scared into silence in fear of a knock on the door by the DEA. Whether they have an eigth, or are growing 15 plants, lots of people remain underground about their pot use to stay out of jail.

To make any kind of change, people must lobby. The law has procedures that must be followed and met to make any reforms, but change can be made. Whoever said that norml hasn't done shit, needs to read up a bit. They are one of the key components to the legalization issue. If more people would just pay the $50 or whatever it is to join, and the membership numbers shot up, politicians would take notice.

[headymoechick]

And you completely missed MY point. You don't need to smoke it and tell everyone that you do to stand up and say that you think marijuana should be legalized. Plenty of non-smokers think so and THOSE are the people that have to help us! Those are the people I want to reach out to and say "Hey! Give us a hand with the power of your vioce and lets ALL make a difference." Politicians are going to notice the people rallying together to protest and tell people what we beleive rather than seeing how much money Norml is raising. If our numbers increased to tens of thousands to millions, all speaking out and yelling for change, people are going to listen. Don't live in fear!! You don't need to be afriad of the police knocking down your door for saying you believe marijuana should be legalized. All you have to be afriad of is if you smoke pot, getting caught. Responsible, private, smart use in your home should prevent that. Not always, but most of the time.

Please hear me! Please do not focus on the technicalities of my post, but listen to my message. I have not come here to debate on wether or not someone is capable to participate in the movement. I post here to get people excited and motivate them! I don't wish to seek an arguement with anyone. If I can inspire 1 person to spread the word, I've made a difference and that's what I care about.

[taxrefund90]

Although i don't know if i would really try marijuana, i feel that it should be legalized. if tobacco and alcohol are legal, mara juana should be legal also.

[element7]

To make any kind of change, people must lobby. The law has procedures that must be followed and met to make any reforms, but change can be made. Whoever said that norml hasn't done shit, needs to read up a bit. They are one of the key components to the legalization issue. If more people would just pay the $50 or whatever it is to join, and the membership numbers shot up, politicians would take notice.
Thank you. NORML has done a great deal and continues to do so. Alot of people don't see it though because this is the kind of stuff that doesn't make major headlines, know what I mean? Anyway, yeah it's not just the membership fee it's bodies, people willing to take some action and be involved themselves as well. On that note for anyone in Tejas: we're going to Austin Tuesday, 03.08 for H.B. 254, which would reduce the penalty for possession of one ounce or less of marijuana to the equivalent of a traffic ticket.(A step in decriminalization and keeping people out of prison and jail). There will be a hearing on the bill and folks are encouraged to show up en masse to support it. This is a serious moment so it's asked that anyone coming please dress appropriately for the hearing (hey we can dance naked around a fire later :)) So, anyone in Tejas who's interested in hitting up the Capitol this coming week, pm me (possible ride share) or check out : http://mpp.org/TX/action.html (http://mpp.org/TX/action.html)
for some more info.

[harshhookah]

Here I pulled up something from the Internet. If you are familier with Bill O' Reilly then you might know what it is. Although it is dated back in 02, it still has a good conversation on there. I would like to see another visit to the show with new information. Maybe the people that go on national t.v to discuss the issue should get more praise from people. I have seen a few people on t.v speak out (always nice to see.)

http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread12704.shtml

[element7]

On that note for anyone in Tejas: we're going to Austin
Tuesday, 03.08 for H.B. 254, which would reduce the penalty for possession of one ounce or less of marijuana to the equivalent of a traffic ticket.(A step in decriminalization and keeping people out of prison and jail).
Correction, that has been delayed until Tuesday March 15, 2005.

[Shaman420]

I'd hope that any one who was capable would donate to NORML. I do so on a monthly basis, and it is extremely important to attend the rallies, though I personally wont make it out to my first one till this summer. There is a lot you can do to get pot legalized but the thing is you can't be paranoid about it. You have to speak out and say marijuana is good medicine, marijuana is good for recreational use, and we want it legalized. Also dems have to make peace with the republicans on this issue in particular. Pot doesn't discriminate, all sorts of people smoke it and all sorts of people need to speak out on its behalf. Join NORML at www.norml.org today if you havent already, and periodically check high times for marijuana activism news. Also Raich v. Ashcroft the supreme court case of medicinal marijuana is comming to a close and it is extremely important that if the case is not found in behalf of raich that WE GET OUT THERE AND HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD! Stay tuned for information on the veredict, and I'll post some info on the case tommorow, and how you can make a difference. Legalize it.