Bound In Babylon

[Exodus's Loki]

Well due to...a moementary morinic laps in judgement i'm stuck in Babylon on probation and going to AA and manditory group counseling then i'll be shipped to JobCorps Dayton Ohio as part of my reabilitation...the things i get myself into. I'm going to miss Ocala and probably most every other gathering to take place this year. But things do get better i met up with a Yahoo group for Ohio Rainbow family and we're planing on trying to get some small regional here in ohio, somethig id be able to go to, its great! Anyways lets chat lol

[Exodus's Loki]

anyone bound in Babylon like me?

[Earthy Mama]

yes :(
we're bound in babylon too for the time being.

[BobbinBecca]

I was just writing in the other thread this quote and then saw this thread. How weird.

Hamlet:

"I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams."

Except I say the dreams are good. To a person caught up in the nut, paying bills and playing video games, they may be feverish, frightening, apocolyptic--- but to a rainbow they are empowering, liberating and beautiful. Even in the woods the nutshell is everywhere, brother. It's not the nutshell you need to think about, it's the dreams!

If you have a gathering towards the end of the summer I'll go!

LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOVOVVVVEEEE YYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU

[Earthy Mama]

I'm keeping a journal(on here) to keep myself sane. If you want to talk about being stuck you can read my journal (if you'd like) and message me. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/journal.php?do=showentry&e=12

[Exodus's Loki]

Thank you mama, i've read and commented at your journal. Its made me feel better knowing that i'm not the only one gagged(it seems) and bound in Babylon

[measa420]

i am so to speak bound i have my to beautiful children in babylon so i will never be completely out but i am still trying to reunite us so we can live in this life stlye which i think is best suited for us and the like minded

[Exodus's Loki]

We'll all get back there one day! Home is where the trees are lol

[Earthy Mama]

We'll all get back there one day! Home is where the trees are lol

lol thats cute... I like that one.

[mccoolly]

Babylon. Let me tell you all something. I am so glad that I am not the only person who sees this "system" for what it is. I am currently becoming more and more aware of how bound I am. Here's the irony; I am currently finishing a bachelor's degree at babylon's biggest university. I thought that getting an education would be a good way to make sense of my disenfranchisement (word?) but instead I feel like I'm no longer selling out, I'm buying in. Will ther be a day when us like minded folks will be able to permentally live free of the institutionalized smog? Why are we not planning for that? Maybe we should? Any takers?

[peace_on_earth]

im gonna sound stupid here but what does babylon mean?

[peaceband_chick]

I got this from a glossary from one of the links on welcomehome:

Babylon
The world outside of the Gathering. `Mainstream' or `mainline' society; the `straight' world (From the Book of Revelations, via Rastafari).


From what I've read, it is usually talked about as being a negative thing.

[Earthy Mama]

yes, babylon is the word used for society. The system, the people in it, the way they all flock together and follow it...

[mccoolly]

Can someone explain the rastifari reference to babylon for me. Are you saying that they attached the old testement meaning to westren civilization?


Quick survey


If given the chance to escape babylon and it's tentacles, what kind of utopia would you create? What would be the structure? Creed? Location? Overall theme? These are the first things. What is the vision. We all agree that this is not the right way to live. I'm curious as to what points we agree on concerning the "right" way to live.

Have fun with your answer. You never know how much impact it could have on someone.

[peace_on_earth]

then yeah man im bound in babylon for 1 more week.on sun im quiting my job and then in 2 weeks im gonna be living outta my pack!!! cant wait.
peace

[peaceband_chick]

then yeah man im bound in babylon for 1 more week.on sun im quiting my job and then in 2 weeks im gonna be living outta my pack!!! cant wait.
peace


Sounds kinda like what I'm going to be doing, but I'm doing it in late June, going to the Rainbow Nationals, then living out of a pack for an undetermined amount of time.

[brreitsma]

This is off topic, but Earthy Mama I am not normally attracted to white ladies, just not my taste but I think you're gorgeous.

[Exodus's Loki]

To tell the truth there are people planning so that we like minded beautiful spirited people will be able to live free, i'll give you a link to whatermelonheads they're a group trying to network the family together so we won't have to worry about anything, from rides to places to stay when its cold out http://melonheads.villagevisionaries.net, I'm bound in babylon by probation but fortunately it ends in three or four months but unfortunately i'm going to be going to school afterwards to become a nursing assistant then i think i'm going to skip around to a few gatherings then come back and go to nursing school. I want to become a nurse to help out at C.A.L.M.

[Exodus's Loki]

bump: any others bound in babylon?

[Keanua Otter]

Exodus's Loki; brother, in the future, stick to herbal medicine, ganja, ...i assure you you won't be getting into the trouble that alcohol can bring down...Our collective prayers go out to all family trying and succeeding in breaking free from alcohol addictions!!! A true product of babylon!

[busmama]

In one way or another we are all bound to Babylon. The best we can do is be IN this world, but not OF this world. I am bound even by homeschooling to follow certain rules and regs. All we can really do is sit back and laugh about thier stupidity and know that one day we will all be truly free.

[WanderingturnupII]

Our collective prayers go out to all family trying and succeeding in breaking free from alcohol addictions!!! A true product of babylon!
Our? Got a mouse in your pocket? Or have you multiple personalities? I've made some excellent wine that a rational human would have a hard time calling "A true product of babylon ", unless their reason had already been befuddled by the drinking of it...

[BooMA47]

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REEEDDDD WWWOOOMMAAANNN
*And Clan

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[PhOeNiX_fIrE]

wasn't babylon a city that got consumed in greed and then destroyed or something like that. And now we're repeating it's mistakes. I really have no clue, I just remember someone saying that'

[Keanua Otter]

hey wanderingturnip! Here you are on my case again! yes, indeed, wine is an exception to the rule, and i suppose beer too, in moderation, but as you may know, alot of people get addicted and it's horrible to say the least,and i can assure you, there are multitudes of people praying all over the world at this very moment for their loved ones to just live thru another day and not die from what alcohol can do.

[MagnanimityMan]

this is nicely put =)

i'm right now about to finish my first year of the university, and regardless the worldddd of inspiration and the learning i'm finding in my classes, as amazing the connections i'm making from learning of the anthropology of religion and deviation of ancient civilizations... i'm feeling (these last many months) the up and downs of university. i know with my life i can't do anything besides commune life, or teaching. the posibility of teaching has been keeping me going for the degree, but truly, i know regardless i'm traveling and going west immediately after college, or i thought. throughout this year, even far before truly, i saw the beauty in leaving now, and only making more and more connections why to, but still i'm here in college because i'm embracing my mind, making these connections through books and great professors. i'm in love with this textbook growth, but my heart keeps telling me (along with continually being disgusted with college life in the dorms, but just quieting these feelings), stop now. it's so heart to just simply follow my heart on this one =(, and i see you at the end of my tunnel now, about to graduate, very likeminded...

i have a post with my dilema here: http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59499

***** i'm a taker to your final statement my friend!* not daniel quinn's definition of a taker [he puts a nice opinion on this subject, us being a taker or a leaver =)] but why is this movement so lethargic? i'm about to leave ol' babylon myself, but this is only to myself. there truly needs to be a gathering, a strong culture, not just TO ourselves. do you think there is truly a realistic chance of being recognized, with an accepting context instead of "bums", but also! is it truly important as long as [b]we are together? and somehow able to find a way to manage this community within babylon, like MANY co-op living's do, with the people inside of them beyond content by following their own heart? it sounds as if this "live free of the institutionalized smog" can either be a revelation to the world, or at least america OR just a gathering of those who already share this paradigm. or are you simply talking about correcting everythign that is wrong (use of better word) with how we manage the social problems of america and the world. i feel i might be coming off a little attackyish, i truly am not, i'm just interested in how feel things should be taken care of? letting us live how we want, or do you think there is a revelation of what we think should be an objective reality, worthy of being shared with a world maybe not interested in hearing it? regardless, if you were also speaking literally with coming together, "any takers", i'd love to hear your dream of a gathering =) i truly can't wait till i meet people who can udnerstand me, and i can truly connect with. much love ~ethan

Babylon. Let me tell you all something. I am so glad that I am not the only person who sees this "system" for what it is. I am currently becoming more and more aware of how bound I am. Here's the irony; I am currently finishing a bachelor's degree at babylon's biggest university. I thought that getting an education would be a good way to make sense of my disenfranchisement (word?) but instead I feel like I'm no longer selling out, I'm buying in. Will ther be a day when us like minded folks will be able to permentally live free of the institutionalized smog? Why are we not planning for that? Maybe we should? Any takers?

[MagnanimityMan]

so many of you seem to be in on such beautiful (i heard nothing other then the world gathering, but i imagine them to be truly beautiful =P) gatherings. i can only imagine what they're like, but i believe i know, and they're exactly what this soul needs to be apart of. are gatherings truly quite common amoung those who share this worldview? i look forward to making such beautiful friends out there, and i hope, after hearing a few comments to the previous question, to attending these gatherings i already created so many expectations for.

[Diogenes]

A few years ago I was on my way to leave the babylon, but I didn't do it right and soon I found myself back deep in the mess.. I didn't really know about the Rainbow family thing then. I had heard something about it, but ignored. I've been studying in the university for a while now without getting very far in it and came close to some burnout or something and right now I'm feeling strongly that I need to leave this damn mess for a while and connect with some like-minded folk, get new perspective.
I'm a bit insecure right now about leaving the mess, I have a lot of debt (not that much but much for a student) and maybe I feel a bit lonely and scared too to go out to the wilderness.. I'd like to go to raibow-gatherings. There are some folks here in Finland, but I don't really know about it. Has anyone any advice for me? About the European Rainbow family?
Humbly, Mikko.

[gypsyd]

I'm on that band wagon......