Organic growing

[Bonghobbit]

Well, someone had to post a thread...guano and seaweed, worm castings, the stuff of good organics!

[stogg]

can you get as good a result from dirt as hydro

[b1v2w3]

some say hydro is faster and dirt is fuller. b1

[meangreen]

Some will argue but most will agree;soil for taste and hydro for yield!I have done both and IMO,proper soil grown organics cannot be touched for pure smokability!

[dexorated]

and stay away from miracle grow... it will burn your plants

[meangreen]

dexoratedand stay away from miracle grow... it will burn your plants



As well as taste like shit!Flush to your hearts desire and it will never taste good IMO.

[tiedye0420]

gotta have that dirt man
nothing like good tasty dirt grown buds
I swear that the differences in strains from different climates come partly from the soil differences, as well as climate differences.
but that is just my opinion.
tiedye

[mart_182]

i smoked some organic bud at the weekend, i have to say it was the best bud i have ever smoked. it tasted better than anything i have ever tried, as well as getting me more baked on about four tokes than ive ever been! organic all the way! :p

[ooah]

sweet how do i grow like this it sounds good and easy? can it be grown out doors?

[st0neD|floyD]

Research.

The information is out there; don't expect someone to mentor you on all aspects of growing.

[grouchy_old_dude]

a good place to start...http://www.geocities.com/auto112387/reading/grow.html

[tiedye420]

Or just find a neighbor with chickens and horses in the yard. Collect the poop, take it home and stick it in a trench or hole, wet it down and cover it with plywood or plastic,(keeps the flies down).
1/3 compost 1/3 sand and 1/3 soil is a good mix. Make sure you compost manures two months at minimum.

[rangerdanger]

Some will argue but most will agree;soil for taste and hydro for yield!I have done both and IMO,proper soil grown organics cannot be touched for pure smokability!
I agree.
Organically grown ANYTHING is better. Pot, tomatoes, whatever.

And to me, organically grown anything isn't TRUELY organic unless the #1 ingredient--water--is also organic (not tap water).
Back in SoCal I used to host a campground up in the mountains and about 100 yds. away from the campground was a year-round spring-fed stream. I used to fill up a 5-gal. water bottle everytime I went, for drinking/cooking at home.
One day I realized that my indoor organic pot wasn't TRUELY organic unless the water was too.
So I bought 10 5 gal. bottles (fuckers cost $8.00/each) and would spend about a hour of hard labor filling up those bottles (full they weigh 50 lbs.), carrying them to my van, taking them home and lugging them down a loooong driveway in the dead of night (so the neighbors wouldn't see) and using that water exclusively for my pot.

Almost immediently I noticed not only a increase in growth BUT it cut the time needed for flowering by a much as a week.
I mentioned this to a chemist/environmental scientist friend of mine and he said "Of course, it's living water".
"Huh?"
He went on to explain that the water I got from the stream is "living" water. It came from a stream which supported life, like fish. It has "life force", unlike tap water which will kill fish dead.

Where I live now I have that pure "living" water" all the time.
There is a spring-fed year-round stream on my prop. and the water for the house is pumped from below the stream bed and into a tank which supplies all the water on this prop. and the surrounding 4 properties.
Inotherwords, the water that comes out of the tap--the sink, bathtub and faucets outside--is pure mountain spring water. I bathe in mountain spring water.
Even the toilet flushes mountain spring water.

To me, the best-tasting pot is grown outside, in organically amended soil, under the sun and watered with living water.

[smileyjohn]

Hmmm.. could be why my plants seem to start budding so much earlier than a friends. He's on city water. My house water is tied to a spring fed well in the mountains.

[Golden Avatar]

Use rain water collected from a butt if possible. If you have room for a water butt collecting from your roof downpipes leave the lid off and put a few goldfish in. These will eat the mosquito larvea and give the water a small, but welcome dose of fish poo!


I only grow organic and visitors that have shared a social taste with us have allways asked what strain and how come it smells and tastes so nice. As well; as the usual question of how much! But I'm not commercial and friends get it for free as I'm a hobbyest. (No thanks I have enough friends!)

As I'm here I'll share a tip with us soil growers. Allways sieve the soil/compost you use-introducing air to the medium. A light soil in paramount to new root growth/feelers and will put your re-potted plant in good stead. If using a perlite mix (advised) hand fold/mix the lightened soil with the perlite AFTER sieving the soil.

Goldie.

[smileyjohn]

I'm not commercial and friends get it for free as I'm a hobbyest.
Same here. I think the cookie jar is the reason people tend to congregate in my kitchen..
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1040/10153cookiejar.jpg

[Golden Avatar]

I can here your kitchen in the mornings now John.

"Anyone for grapefruit" ...........

It's nice to share your gains with friends which helps them stay away from dodgy dealers and get some quality organic weed, compared to some of the sh*te out there!

I see your in the states John. You ever visit HC?

[smileyjohn]

You ever visit HC?
Goldie, I hate being dimwitted! Where's HC?

[Eruna]

how would one go about attaining organic water if there are no streams about?

[meangreen]

Reverse Osmosis

[Golden Avatar]

HC= Hempcultivation.com. Excuse me.



how would one go about attaining organic water if there are no streams about?
I suppose organics can be grown to the t or as best as you can. Whats you city water PH? Most water companies will send you a breakdown of its composition. My water supply is 7.2 so I can't be arsed to source pure and that figure is hardly worth R/O. That is MY water though and not yours. Get yours checked or request a breakdown from your supplier.

I'm not a pur aorganic guy. I use Perlite which in turn uses masses of energy to produce so I'ts hard to be a pure organic grower without effecting the enviroment in some way. Indoors that is. HID (or high intensity discharge lighting) although not as bad as some say still uses the national grid for electric and hence some poor shyline will recieve smoke from it's power station.

So organics in my world is doing my best in choosing an electrical supplier that uses eniviromental energy, and using nutrients and soil mediums that are not only organic, but acredited organoc status.

It does make a difference to the smoke no matter what anyone says. Sure hydro is good for yield but what do you want, a good smoke or a quick smoke?

[LuMpYtRiChOmEy]

I want GOOD and QUICK -and lots of it, -over and over again. Folks have bought me over their organic weed and have all left agreein that mine was supperior. Smatter o fact a coupla folks thought my Herb WAS organic, they stood open mouthed while I toldem its ALL CHEM grown :) ! Get HIGH QUALITY chem nutes and youl grow bigger faster and better. Figgured yas could use another point of view :) .

[rangerdanger]

There is no way I know of to aquire organic water except from a stream/river/lake.
I drove a total of 3 hrs. r/t to get mine when I lived in L.A.

[smileyjohn]

my plants veg in hydro and then I transplant to dirt before moving to 12/12 closet. Tuesday this girl will have been at 12/12 for 5 weeks.
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1040/101535wks_12_12_1.jpg
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1040/101535wks_12_12_2.jpg

[Golden Avatar]

There is no way I know of to aquire organic water except from a stream/river/lake.
I drove a total of 3 hrs. r/t to get mine when I lived in L.A.

I'd go for the stream then. Still water holds more harmfull bacteria than good so I'd say the stream.


my plants veg in hydro and then I transplant to dirt before moving to 12/12 closet. John I like the idea of the switch. It sounds like an interesting method your using there and off the top of my head I don't remember anyone using this method.
John I'll PM you a link to some of my growing shananigans. They include photos and you may be a little shocked my the nature of my growing experiments! If you'd like to leave a reply I'll make myself known to you on the site.

A nice looking plant by the way, with true form.

Goldie.

[skullkidnate]

my plants veg in hydro and then I transplant to dirt before moving to 12/12 closet. Tuesday this girl will have been at 12/12 for 5 weeks.
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1040/101535wks_12_12_1.jpg
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/1040/101535wks_12_12_2.jpg

:drool:

[Archane]

One good way to get nutrient rich organic water is to capture lots of rainwater (unless in a polluted urban area), that stuff is chock full of good things for the plants. One good way to do this is with 5 gallon buckets, especially under the gutters!(I also have well water when I dont get enough rain, some well water is super mineral rich and others are bad, check the ph and try it on plants). To fertilize, I mix the rainwater with the solution "fishy mulch" and spray it on the leaves (fishy mulch is very common and any garden store should have it). This works SUPER GOOD, I learned this technique from and old hippie who won the "best pot in the SE" like 5 years in a row using this strategy. His motto is G.O.D. makes good pot: Great Out Doors!

[jopr1091]

and stay away from miracle grow... it will burn your plants
I beg to differ. Albeit its not the best resource for your nutes but I have used their time released soil that feeds for 3 mo.s and my plant is lovin it!! Its a cheap substitue. Just make sure you pH the water to 7.0 or 6.8 to avoid any lockout issues. Just my 2 cents