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roger
02-14-2005, 11:58 PM
I saw this on ebay and think it is a book that has some recipes.
Does anyone know about the contents of this book?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=616&item=6947088777&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I am looking for a "red oil" recipe..

eat_some_LSD
02-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Never heard of it...what exactly is "red oil?"

roger
02-15-2005, 03:29 AM
One method of extracting the "essential" or volitile oils from cannabis leaves the oil red.

I beleive that this method is in the book.

eat_some_LSD
02-15-2005, 08:47 AM
Red hash oil? Very odd.

Erowid (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info9.shtml) has some good preps, and I've also seen a Keif apparatus for sale on the 'net for a more refined product.

EllisDTripp
02-15-2005, 02:41 PM
"Red Oil" is the name Roger Adams gave his purified extract of cannabis back in 1940. From the above Erowid link:

From: djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg)
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1991 20:51:52 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: THC extraction

Just for fun. Here are some exerpts from the Experimental section of
a paper by Adams, Hunt, and Clark, JACS 62, 196 (1940).

The hemp used in these experiments grew wild in Minnesota during
the season of 1938. It was cut in August, after flowering had
begun but before seed had "set" in the female tops. It was stored
for six weeks in a room where a fan assured circulation of air in
order to dry it completely. No molding occurred. The material
was then beaten and shaken to remove the coarse stems which ammount-
ed to about one-third of the total dry weight. The stems were dis-
carded and the relatively fine material that remained was extracted
with 95% ethanol [equivalent to Everclear] in the manner described
below.

Four 20-gallon (75-liter) crocks, each holding approximately 23 lb.
(10 kg.) of material, were set up in series for countercurrent
extraction. Each crock held approximately 61 liters of solvent of
which about 41 liters were withdrawn at each transfer, the remain-
der being retained by the hemp.
...
The operations just described were carried out by Dr. John R. Matchett
and his assistants in the Narcotics Laboratory of the Treasury
Department, Washington, D.C. They kindly furnished us with a gener-
ous supply of ethanol extract. [don't you wish you had connections
like that?]

The rest of the procedure involved removing ethanol and low boiling
components under reduced pressure (about 30 mm) and gradually increased
temperature (up to 200 C). The remaining oil was distilled at 3 mm,
between 100-220 C. This crude oil (180-200 g) was disolved in petroleum
ether (b.p. 30-60 C) and washed twice with water. The pet. ether was
distilled off and the oil distilled at 2 mm, collecting the fraction
boiling at 175-195 C, yielding 90-110 g of "purified red oil."

So that's how the big boys did it back then. University of Illinois
students and alums should note that the author Adams is none other than
Roger Adams for whom the chem lab is named.

At the time this paper was written it wasn't known just what the active
ingredient in pot was. Cannabinol was the first compound identified in
red oil, and cannabidiol had just recently been isolated. From the
conclusion of the introduction:

Red oil probably contains other products closely related to canna-
binol or cannabidiol in structure, such as partially hydrogenated
cannabinols, isomers of cannabidiol, or molecules like cannabidiol
with less unsaturation. A large number of closely related compounds
is possible. The active marihuana principle or principles may be
among this group of substances. On the other hand, the possibility
of the presence in red oil of a very potent active compound, entirely
unrelated structurally to cannabinol or cannibidiol, is not excluded.

Very soon after that is was determined that THC was the active principle.
Roger Adams synthesized THC and several related compounds, some of which
were several times more potent than THC. Roger Adams has a number of
interesting papers, Joe Bob says "check it out."

I believe that the last part of that is in error. AFAIK, THC wasn't isolated and synthesized until the 1960's, and it was done by Rafael Mechoulam, not Roger Adams.

The "Drug Manufacturer's Catalog" looks interesting, at least from a historical perspective. But it dates from a time before chemical "watch lists" and clandestine lab task forces. Any procedures it gives are not going to be very useful these days, I'm afraid...

gnrm23
02-21-2005, 06:26 AM
the book itself is somewhat overpriced, and seems to be patched-together reprints from previous drug-synth recipes books from a few years earlier... (with no credit given as to sources)

i suppose it's ok for "dope-book" collectors, but most of those synths are avaialble for free on the internet somewhere...

geckopelli
03-19-2005, 09:54 AM
I've a copy. It's full of baloney and reprints of patents.

don't waste your money.