facts about real LSD

[Spiderman,UFO's]

Has anyone tried real pure LSD? I read in a report about albert Hoffman and they asked him why he didn't want LSD on the streets, and he said because chemists will give it a bad name if made different. I also heard that pure LSD has no body high, it's just all in the mind. Timothy leary stated "to all you acid freaks out there, who think they have tried acid, well you haven't, unless you have tried pure LSD. Pure LSD is supposed to be very spiritual. Also LSD- 25 is supposed to make you all "speedy" and usually will get you naueseated. I have tried LSD 4 times now, and know for a fact that pure LSD is a different more spiritual experience. The only pure LSD that was around was in the 60's and 70's.

[Jabbawaya]

It should all be very similar... and there should always be a body component to it since LSD also acts on dopamine receptors. The serotonin system is enough to create a body high by itself, actually, and it should.

Of course pure LSD would be different. Taking pure THC is slightly different from smoking weed. Taking pills of psilocybin is slightly different from taking mushrooms. It has to do with other chemicals present. So yes, you're right to some degree, but it's not such a huge difference.

[The Flow]

I´m not quite sure, if anyone around here has ever tried 100% pure LSD.
Because of the very small doses, you always need carrier substances (or have you ever tried to swallow 200ugs of anything? That´s almost nothing, less than a bit of fly excrements on a window...). Those carrier substances have an influence on the substance uptake into your body (but some can even speed it up).
Of course, pure LSD would cause an enormous rush of fast developing activity, but I don´t think this is too much different to "normal" LSD.
If you really want a "pure" LSD-Experience beyond all you´ve ever experienced, find a physician you really can trust (not your "doc" round the corner) and let him inject you 2 or 3ugs of LSD directly into your spine (into the brain liquor) under permanent EKG-monitoring. PLEASE DON`T DO THIS ON YOUR OWN, YOU COULD HARM YOURSELF VERY BADLY AND EVEN KILL YOURSELF!

[Maggie Sugar]

Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)

doubtful, he experimented only once of his own free will and not even with a psychedelic dose. Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics. In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.

[BlackBillBlake]

All I can say on this is that some of the LSD that was around in the early 1970's in the UK and was probably produced by Richard Kemp, was of very great purity and stregnth compared with everything I encountered later on, with only one or two exceptions.

Over the years have been various scare stories about impurities in acid. At one time, it was said that strychnine and amphetamine were present in some tabs. However, this is extremely improbable. For one thing, looking at a microdot pill, you can't actually get enough of either of these substances in there to be effective.
Most of the acid in the uk in recent years is not put out in very high doses. Often, its probably only about 50 mcrgms per blotter.
If you want to trip and be sure you are getting purity, my advice is to go for high stregnth mexican mushrooms - that is if you are concerned about the purity of LSD.
Often, what people put down to impurity though, can be their own reaction to the drug. In the initial phases for example, it can often lead to a release of adrenalin. The usual 'butterflys' sensation is intensified by the effect of the acid, and people think something is wrong. My experience is that this phenomenon is more likely to persist with lower doses. So called 'speedy' effects can often be put down to the same or similar causes.
Although it doesn't affect the body directly, LSD can lead to a very wide range of what are experienced by the tripper as physical sensations. And sensations which are usually present can become intensified, or even brought to light from subliminal areas of consciousness.
I've had the experience also of it leading to a release of physical tension. It is as though we carry tensions in our bodies all the time of which we are not fully aware. The increased bodily awareness which psychedelics can bring makes one suddenly aware of it - stiffness, say, in the legs. To the inexperienced even something this simple can lead to problems.

[LostChord]

lets be honest who thinks they could clear their mind and meditate on some acid? no one.
umm actually its incredibly easy.. I would say a hell of a lot easier then meditating sober... and its just incredible..

thats where the posibilites of lsd become infinite

[BlackBillBlake]

umm actually its incredibly easy.. I would say a hell of a lot easier then meditating sober... and its just incredible..

thats where the posibilites of lsd become infinite

Yes - I agree.

But I don't like the word 'sober' here. It implies that LSD is an intoxicant like alchohol. 'Straight' might be better.

[LostChord]

well i consider 'sober' being a state of mind not affected by outside agents.. a state of mind in which you 'should' drive a vehicle.. or 'should' operate machinery and whatever else you find on those sorts of labels and shit lol...

but I understand how other could view it differently...

[crummyrummy]

Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)

Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics. In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.No I believe he only tried it once after his initial accident. I read his journal entries about it a while back in some book a while back.

[EllisDTripp]

Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)

Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics.

It was a carefully measured 250 mcg, according to his own lab notes, published in his autobiography "LSD, My Problem Child".

In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.

I think you are thinking of Aldous Huxley, who went out of the world on a whopping dose of LSD administered by his wife, coincidentally on the same day that JFK was assassinated.

Dr. Albert Hofmann is still very much alive AFAIK...

No I believe he only tried it once after his initial accident. I read his journal entries about it a while back in some book a while back.

Hofmann reportedly used LSD for MANY years (and still may). He reportedly took a threshold dose (25 mcg) every day as a "mental stimulant".

[LostChord]

It was a carefully measured 250 mcg, according to his own lab notes, published in his autobiography "LSD, My Problem Child".

in the movie "Hofmann's Potion" he says a quarter of a milligram, so yes 250ug (micrograms)

[Myscreename34987]

Real LSD was layed on blue gel tabs in 2005, it lasted until early 2007, ( except for the few individuals im sure saved a chunk for themselves knowing what they have ) --Theres a picture of them on erowid.

I had the pleasure of consuming two tabs known to contain roughly 120 - 140 mic.

It was real. You will know if you ever have real LSD, if you "think you probably did" , you havent.

If you want to know HOW I know, or WHAT it was like, PM me.

Lavender, Family Fluff, Needle Point, Raw, Amber, Cech 25, <--ALL these names mean is NOT REAL LSD - 25.

That doesnt mean they are all worthless chemicals, some of them are close to LSD ( although nothing is ever even partially CLOSE to L that isnt the real thing ) Some of them are horrible devil substances that mimic lsd and provide NO spiritually properties IMO. buts thats just me, people who havent had the real thing think they are great, but who can blame them.

Theres also the synth-mescal generation growing, dying, w/e, point is, research chemicals like 2c-x, DOx ect have been being passed of as acid. this isnt a bad thing,
2c-i is great, WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR GETTING 2c-i, and there in lies the problem with DOB being sold as LSD --( "its not working, lets eat the rest" ) You know what Im talking about. gahh.

I my life experience, real lsd is made every few years, and that time in between batches has been growing larger for decades. Everytime it IS produced correct, its gone as fact as you can say "Oh my god its real acid" ---

I read, ( this may not be accurate ) that only 20 % of "acid" manufacturing plans are aimed to make real LSD-25, and 10 % of that 20% succeeds,

The guy that I owe my life to for giving me these passed away. I havent seen them since, EVERYONE at festivals knows about them, agrees they are the best acid thats even been made, but says quote "We wont ever see those again, but if you got them , you were blessed" -

Anyone else care to second me on the blues being real?

[unfocusedanakin]

Any LSD made after like 1967 is not going to be 100% pure
once it was made ilegal and had to go underground

The standerd method of production that has been passed down from chemist to chemist is at best 99.9% pure, sure a new way could be found out, but its far too time consuming, a chemist is just going to do it the way they KNOW will work,
At 99.9% the way it binds to your brain is not the same as if it were 100%, It's like a puzzle piece that is just a bit too big

There is a diffrence between old acid and new acid, how much of a diffrence is a debate. The body load people describe is normaly due to impurites

[klondike_bar]

this thread is a joke. soo much mis-information going around.

the only way that you can have "non-pure" lsd is if it contains the other inactive derivitives of LSD. however, by following advanced techniques in the synthesis, these can be converted to the active isomer.

[MrBDNice]

we always had silver crystals always clean trips. idk how you theres no "real" lsd around. sounds like some nonsence to me.... ive aten RCs too...

[36fuckin5]

This thread is fucking full of fail. All of you should be ashamed.

[Mr.Writer]

This thread is terrible. Real LSD is everywhere. 100% real. Open your eyes, it's not magical pixie dust that magically stopped being made when it was illegal. Chemists are making it all around the world, it's really not difficult at all if you have a college chemistry degree or equivalent. The hardest part is getting the equipment and even that is very doable.

[ODB]

Real LSD was layed on blue gel tabs in 2005, it lasted until early 2007, ( except for the few individuals im sure saved a chunk for themselves knowing what they have ) --Theres a picture of them on erowid.

I had the pleasure of consuming two tabs known to contain roughly 120 - 140 mic.

It was real. You will know if you ever have real LSD, if you "think you probably did" , you havent.

If you want to know HOW I know, or WHAT it was like, PM me.

Lavender, Family Fluff, Needle Point, Raw, Amber, Cech 25, <--ALL these names mean is NOT REAL LSD - 25.

That doesnt mean they are all worthless chemicals, some of them are close to LSD ( although nothing is ever even partially CLOSE to L that isnt the real thing ) Some of them are horrible devil substances that mimic lsd and provide NO spiritually properties IMO. buts thats just me, people who havent had the real thing think they are great, but who can blame them.

Theres also the synth-mescal generation growing, dying, w/e, point is, research chemicals like 2c-x, DOx ect have been being passed of as acid. this isnt a bad thing,
2c-i is great, WHEN YOU KNOW YOUR GETTING 2c-i, and there in lies the problem with DOB being sold as LSD --( "its not working, lets eat the rest" ) You know what Im talking about. gahh.

I my life experience, real lsd is made every few years, and that time in between batches has been growing larger for decades. Everytime it IS produced correct, its gone as fact as you can say "Oh my god its real acid" ---

I read, ( this may not be accurate ) that only 20 % of "acid" manufacturing plans are aimed to make real LSD-25, and 10 % of that 20% succeeds,

The guy that I owe my life to for giving me these passed away. I havent seen them since, EVERYONE at festivals knows about them, agrees they are the best acid thats even been made, but says quote "We wont ever see those again, but if you got them , you were blessed" -

Anyone else care to second me on the blues being real?

I haven't heard about da blues but agree with what I made bold. What makes you so sure about da blues?

[Myscreename34987]

I haven't heard about da blues but agree with what I made bold. What makes you so sure about da blues?

Let me just ask all the people who want to argue that theres TONS of REAL LSD around.

How do you know the LSD that you have had ( that you consider to be real LSD ) is real?

Just answer me that....and dont tell me cause your hook up is good or someone told you it was real, and dont even bother telling me you know the chemist.

[AT98BooBoo]

Try Sandoz Liquid

[blitz7341]

This thread is fucking full of fail. All of you should be ashamed.

im gonna have to agree with you here. acid is acid, either its real or not. but LSD is LSD. shit from 50 years ago is no different from shit going around today, same chemical, only difference is potency per hit. now i know that there are things like DOB on blotter, but its really not hard to distinguish whether you have LSD or not. all this jazz about "pure" lsd, either the chemical is there or not.

[ClosingTide]

Some LSD is probably more purer now than some was in the later-60s, and vice versa of course. 1968-69ish (in my block of the city) it was mostly orange pills sometimes containing amphetamine and other things. There was fake stuff going around then just as there is now. You could tell the better acid from the fake stuff though, word spread fast because it was so common then.

[Mr.Writer]

And what's with this myth that acid gets LESS pure going from the 60s? Chemical technology has improved drastically since then, and every single drug on the market has seen an explosion in purity and strength. Same goes for LSD, people just put less on the blotter, but it can be made MUCH easier today than it could have 40 years ago.

[pedaltopedal]

Edit: Just realized I accidentally got this thread confused with another one, so my reply was a bit out of context... though, it still sorta applies to this thread as well.

Yep... acid is acid. It is all over the place. etc. This thread has given me a horrible headache.

The only thing I wanted to add is that it is known that LSD can degrade into lumi-lsd and iso-lsd. Both of these chemicals are active and can make acid feel "dirty" So the only thing better than acid is some really freshly laid acid... but beyond that, acid is acid is acid.

[Myscreename34987]

Edit: Just realized I accidentally got this thread confused with another one, so my reply was a bit out of context... though, it still sorta applies to this thread as well.

Yep... acid is acid. It is all over the place. etc. This thread has given me a horrible headache.

The only thing I wanted to add is that it is known that LSD can degrade into lumi-lsd and iso-lsd. Both of these chemicals are active and can make acid feel "dirty". So the only thing better than acid is some really freshly laid acid... but beyond that, acid is acid is acid.

Read a book.

Then speak.

[DroneLore]

read a book read a book read a muthafuckin book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUkpR2Q6Oy8

[pedaltopedal]

Read a book.

Then speak.

Next time you should think of an intelligent reply first.

Then speak.

And I was incorrect, iso-lsd and lumi-lsd are not active.

[slickwilly1]

this message is for Myscreename34987. my account hasn't been activated yet so i'm using this thread to message you.

dood dood dood. it's seems like it's been forever, actually you are the first person that i feel is a brother in the realm of purity with LSD. there are only two other people who are long gone now from my life that i had the experience with. i'd been wanting for many years to run across a post from someone who actually is 100% aware of the fact that 99.9 percent of acid bought on the street is not even close to real chemically pure LSD. that may sound brash or ridiculous to all but us rare few who are in the know. so my friend, i want to share my experience with you. actually, it wasn't the gel tabs for me. this was back in 1995. i had been eating wild psilocybes in Louisiana and eating blotter for a couple of years prior. of course the mushrooms were more intense and beautiful than the street acid i was buying, even grown in the dung!

one glorious victorious day unbeknown to me, a friend of a friend came in from out of town and brought what i was later to find the most delicious soul food i'd ever taken. all other acid trips prior to this one were like frying my brain with garbage data. but this stuff was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I know that it was LSD because it was potent enough to fit on a thin piece of paper. this paper was actually thinner than normal blotter and smaller than the normal 'hit of acid'. i'm completely convinced that in the realm of psychedelic molecules, seemingly infinitesimally small differences in structure create drastic differences in effect. now, i don't know if you had this kind of experience with the gel tabs but here is what happened to me. the very first thing i noticed that was different was the sensation this acid caused on my tongue. strangely, it created a literal buzzing sensation on my tongue. just imagine touching your tongue to a weak nine volt battery with no pain involved. that is the best way i can describe it. i think of the buzz as a sort of vibration that spread through my system, which i will get to in a moment. i had had funky dirty trips on acid before and i thought because of that sensation, i was in for an especially mind-trashed ride into hell as usual. what i actually got, i can never, ever, forget...

when it kicked in, it truly was as if the same vibration that was on my tongue before moved into my whole body and sent me into the most beautiful and intense state of ecstacy that i had ever experienced - and yes i've rolled on the molly before. the vibration -or- waves of pure energy/ecstacy were traveling upward from the tips of my toes, out through the top of my head. i saw a display of colors associated with the sensation. the perception of my 3D visual field was incredibly enhanced to an almost animal-like state. depth perception was extreme. i was able to see angles, or dimensions between dimensions, as if seeing the real world for the first time. everything in the environment was vibrant with energy and life and so much more noticable. i had never felt so completely alive and so full of flowing positive energy. my set and setting wasn't even spectacular aspects of the event, yet it didn't matter, because i was driving a farrari for the first time when all i'd experienced before was dodge neon, HA! Getting on with the story. my two trip mates and i got in my car and drove to another town. this is when i literally had some kind of overwhelming God complex. i remember saying as i was driving "i am a God, my head is a God, and we are flying". my friends, at that moment, i was speaking purely from the heart because that is exactly how i felt.

those are the highlights and the rest is history. i have seethingly lusted for it for many years while our wonderful government keeps a tight lid on the most beautiful life/consciousness expanding, chemical-evolution-tool. unless things were to change, God willing, the true essence of LSD will remain but a mystery to the masses - sad but so very true. perhaps one day we will be blessed enough to meet up on the astro plane of pure LSD thought waves :)))) take care everybody!

[Myscreename34987]

this message is for Myscreename34987. my account hasn't been activated yet so i'm using this thread to message you.

dood dood dood. it's seems like it's been forever, actually you are the first person that i feel is a brother in the realm of purity with LSD. there are only two other people who are long gone now from my life that i had the experience with. i'd been wanting for many years to run across a post from someone who actually is 100% aware of the fact that 99.9 percent of acid bought on the street is not even close to real chemically pure LSD. that may sound brash or ridiculous to all but us rare few who are in the know. so my friend, i want to share my experience with you. actually, it wasn't the gel tabs for me. this was back in 1995. i had been eating wild psilocybes in Louisiana and eating blotter for a couple of years prior. of course the mushrooms were more intense and beautiful than the street acid i was buying, even grown in the dung!

one glorious victorious day unbeknown to me, a friend of a friend came in from out of town and brought what i was later to find the most delicious soul food i'd ever taken. all other acid trips prior to this one were like frying my brain with garbage data. but this stuff was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I know that it was LSD because it was potent enough to fit on a thin piece of paper. this paper was actually thinner than normal blotter and smaller than the normal 'hit of acid'. i'm completely convinced that in the realm of psychedelic molecules, seemingly infinitesimally small differences in structure create drastic differences in effect. now, i don't know if you had this kind of experience with the gel tabs but here is what happened to me. the very first thing i noticed that was different was the sensation this acid caused on my tongue. strangely, it created a literal buzzing sensation on my tongue. just imagine touching your tongue to a weak nine volt battery with no pain involved. that is the best way i can describe it. i think of the buzz as a sort of vibration that spread through my system, which i will get to in a moment. i had had funky dirty trips on acid before and i thought because of that sensation, i was in for an especially mind-trashed ride into hell as usual. what i actually got, i can never, ever, forget...

when it kicked in, it truly was as if the same vibration that was on my tongue before moved into my whole body and sent me into the most beautiful and intense state of ecstacy that i had ever experienced - and yes i've rolled on the molly before. the vibration -or- waves of pure energy/ecstacy were traveling upward from the tips of my toes, out through the top of my head. i saw a display of colors associated with the sensation. the perception of my 3D visual field was incredibly enhanced to an almost animal-like state. depth perception was extreme. i was able to see angles, or dimensions between dimensions, as if seeing the real world for the first time. everything in the environment was vibrant with energy and life and so much more noticable. i had never felt so completely alive and so full of flowing positive energy. my set and setting wasn't even spectacular aspects of the event, yet it didn't matter, because i was driving a farrari for the first time when all i'd experienced before was dodge neon, HA! Getting on with the story. my two trip mates and i got in my car and drove to another town. this is when i literally had some kind of overwhelming God complex. i remember saying as i was driving "i am a God, my head is a God, and we are flying". my friends, at that moment, i was speaking purely from the heart because that is exactly how i felt.

those are the highlights and the rest is history. i have seethingly lusted for it for many years while our wonderful government keeps a tight lid on the most beautiful life/consciousness expanding, chemical-evolution-tool. unless things were to change, God willing, the true essence of LSD will remain but a mystery to the masses - sad but so very true. perhaps one day we will be blessed enough to meet up on the astro plane of pure LSD thought waves :)))) take care everybody!

Thank you so much. I really hope it somes back, Ive dosed 4 times this last 2 years and its been horrid ( that doesnt mean it didnt "work" you dumb little drug addicts ) Its sad that you are correct, like you said, you said ut sounds harsh, but the fact that all the kids argue about the fact that "Theyve had the real thing" just strengthens the fact that they think that because everything they have had in their day was SHIT, and they've never known anything different, IE: "There is no defective L" , "its All the same just different dosage" lol lol lol lol, I wanna smack these kids, -- And when you get a whole bunch of these fucks who think its "cool" to be open minded ( not like that defies the point or anything, ) they are very willing to argue that "they get higher then you" and "theyre acid is better" -----------------

We have a term for this type of person in the grown up world: "1 upper"

Im sooo glad you were able to post this, thank you for going through the BS of registration to get ahold of me, its ALWAYS good to get reassurance that at least SOMEONE knows what they are talking about.

Please PM me your e-mail and I will give you mine, the people who know about this need to stick together, and I have something to show you if it ever comes back again, and if it does, I WILL DRIVE ACROSS FUCKING STATES TO OBTAIN IT, not for me, I got more than I could ever ask for eating it TWICE : )!! , but my close friends have never had LSD, and wont eat acid because they are aware of the problem god bless them, :)

BTW, cost wise?

Cause mine was 550 to 600 per sheet. 10 per hit when it got broken down usually.

Hopefully you experienced the same pricing? it would help pick out the defective shit from the real L if people asked more questions you know?

Wanna know the response I got?
"Eek, Why 20 for 2?"
*Smiles at me* "Its real. Its LSD. Whats your name?"

And we took it from there, most amazing person ive ever met, RIP Garret

[Myscreename34987]

[QUOTE=slickwilly1;5351212\ all other acid trips prior to this one were like frying my brain with garbage data. but this stuff was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. [/QUOTE]

Theres the million dollar question,

Were you aware that the other acid you had taken was defective before you took the real LSD, or only after the real LSD shifted life as we know it. :)

I can honestly say I would be arguing against myself with all these kids if I had never gotten real L, you just think that youve had it up until you acually do. Theres no reason people would question it. And clearly, lol, they dont, no one has asked a single question as to WHY I think the way I do, or what I believe makes me correct, they would much rather argue that Im wrong because they are right ( not like Im not guilty of the same thing, the trick to it is tho, I AM CORRECT AND IM TRYING TO HELP YOU )

God I hope it comes back.

Erowids images of LSD are straying further and further apart,

[slickwilly1]

and i must say that this level of ignorance should be a criminal offense. my hat is off to the government officials and the mighty power that they used to crush something so needed in human society. a mind expanding spiritual tool other than fear-based religion was just too upsetting for the agenda makers at the top of the pyramid. the real cat has been let out of the bag a handful of times for a few fleeting moments since it was introduced to the masses by Leary.

i've emailed this but i'll post it anyway:

when you said $10 per hit, i said hmm... because that's exactly what it was. i remember asking my friend from out of town why it was so expensive, because i was used to five bucks a hit. he had this twinkle in his eye when he said, trust me you'll know why in a little while! you are exactly right when you said that i had no clue that there was a difference until that life shattering moment when it kicked in. man... there are a few rare things in this life that only a small few ever experience and pure LSD is without a doubt the most positive and beautiful spiritual tool discovered. what was even more interesting to me than the superior experience, was the afterglow. my friends and i all had the same experience, we were changed in a super positive way that lasted for several months. it was as if my whole seritonin cycle was re-engineered to be advanced to some higher level. during those few months i felt more alive, happy, content, and even more intelligent.

but slowly, of course, the environment of ignorance and capitalistic delusion from TV and all the other social noise going on around me infiltrated and eventually began to re-assimilate into my subconcious mind. what really brought the edge that i had gained from the real L down was the next dose of street acid. i probed the idiot that i bought it from with several questions, and i got an ear-full of lies, "oh yeah man this stuff is super clean, high quality" what i got however, was some high quality bullshit! i distinctly remember it being the same garbage once again. it was as if the last of the positive effects of the real L was sucked out into a nasty vortex. i was pissed..... way the hell off!!! so i vowed from that point forward that i would never touch the stuff again until i absolutely knew that i was getting phamceutical grade pure LSD. i am keeping that vow.

i'm totally convinced that if it were used properly, not abused, pure LSD could evolve humanity to a much higher state of synchronicity. the kids who haven't been blessed, are free to argue and chew among themselves, and perhaps wonder if there is some validity to our plee. i do actually have hope for this generation. there is a wavefront of change coming, drastic change through technological breakthroughs... my vision is that the LSD tool will be re-introduced in some proper way at some point.

[ODB]

This thread is great. I have a theory that the xtals are just code for chems to the people that are in the 'know'. And that is why there are different types of trips from one source to the next.

[Myscreename34987]

This thread is great. I have a theory that the xtals are just code for chems to the people that are in the 'know'. And that is why there are different types of trips from one source to the next.

xtals?

Everyone is "in the know" if they quit listening to what people tell them and look it up themselves.

[zorin72680]

I just wanted to to clear up the mis-conception that pure LSD-25 is no longer being produced. I am a professor of mathematics at a U.S. University (which shall NOT be named so don't ask) and am very close friends with our professor of organic chemistry. I have been present on several occasions while my colleague was making the substance. While she was not around in the sixties, I was. What she makes IS the real thing. I use it myself on occasion. While all the students are having their Spring Break, I'm off transcending reality lol.

In short, it just depends on where you live and who you know. If you lived in my city (especially on campus) you would have no problem finding it. I regret not being able to tell any of you where this is but my career, and that of my colleague would be put in jeopardy. Thanks for understanding.

[ODB]

xtals?

Everyone is "in the know" if they quit listening to what people tell them and look it up themselves.

Yes xtals. Like silver, amber, czech, fluff, ect. Could be code names for chemicals that are not LSD, but sold as LSD and a small circle of people know what is being laid.

[Mr.Writer]

the very first thing i noticed that was different was the sensation this acid caused on my tongue. strangely, it created a literal buzzing sensation on my tongue. just imagine touching your tongue to a weak nine volt battery with no pain involved. that is the best way i can describe it. i think of the buzz as a sort of vibration that spread through my system, which i will get to in a moment. i had had funky dirty trips on acid before and i thought because of that sensation, i was in for an especially mind-trashed ride into hell as usual. what i actually got, i can never, ever, forget...

when it kicked in, it truly was as if the same vibration that was on my tongue before moved into my whole body and sent me into the most beautiful and intense state of ecstacy that i had ever experienced - and yes i've rolled on the molly before. the vibration -or- waves of pure energy/ecstacy were traveling upward from the tips of my toes, out through the top of my head. i saw a display of colors associated with the sensation. the perception of my 3D visual field was incredibly enhanced to an almost animal-like state. depth perception was extreme. i was able to see angles, or dimensions between dimensions, as if seeing the real world for the first time. everything in the environment was vibrant with energy and life and so much more noticable. i had never felt so completely alive and so full of flowing positive energy. my set and setting wasn't even spectacular aspects of the event, yet it didn't matter, because i was driving a farrari for the first time when all i'd experienced before was dodge neon, HA! Getting on with the story. my two trip mates and i got in my car and drove to another town. this is when i literally had some kind of overwhelming God complex. i remember saying as i was driving "i am a God, my head is a God, and we are flying". my friends, at that moment, i was speaking purely from the heart because that is exactly how i felt.

Well considering you just described every single one of my acid trips maybe you'll now understand why a lot of people here are trying to tell you that no, it's not rare. Maybe you got some bunk product before that, maybe you weren't in a good set or setting to finally feel this, but what you describe, is what I have consistently experienced with the acid around here.

Now do you understand?

[Myscreename34987]

Well considering you just described every single one of my acid trips maybe you'll now understand why a lot of people here are trying to tell you that no, it's not rare. Maybe you got some bunk product before that, maybe you weren't in a good set or setting to finally feel this, but what you describe, is what I have consistently experienced with the acid around here.

Now do you understand?

Your an idiot. Seriously go fuck yourself.

[Myscreename34987]

Yes xtals. Like silver, amber, czech, fluff, ect. Could be code names for chemicals that are not LSD, but sold as LSD and a small circle of people know what is being laid.

Code names? ...They are just NAMES its not "code" --most of the people selling them dont know what it acually is, most of them DONT CARE, just like mr. skribbler here and most of the kids on this forum, "who cares if it fucks you up right?" -----

About the L at the university, yeeett aagggaaaaiiiinnnnn I never said it didnt exist, fucking christ. Obviously its still around. But its not "everywhere", and "everything" is not acid to quote one of you dumb fucks. and its deffinatly not "Just the amount you take" ----

1 uppers 1 uppers 1 uppers ---

Please leave and let the big boys chat.

[BlazingDervish]

I don't get how anyone that's experienced the acidic miracle of unity can be so insulting and condescending about it. But I guess that's part of the problem of drug enlightenment, isn't it - the ego always comes back.

[Elijah]

of course, if you've ever watched any footage of timothy leary or read any of his writings. you can smell his ego from miles away.

I don't get how anyone that's experienced the acidic miracle of unity can be so insulting and condescending about it. But I guess that's part of the problem of drug enlightenment, isn't it - the ego always comes back.

[Myscreename34987]

........lol

[Myscreename34987]

I don't get how anyone that's experienced the acidic miracle of unity can be so insulting and condescending about it. But I guess that's part of the problem of drug enlightenment, isn't it - the ego always comes back.

Sometimes I wonder to. But I guess Im human, and I get angry when some little kid who has no idea what hes talking about keeps 1 upping like Im trying to have a pissing contest.

[BlazingDervish]

of course, if you've ever watched any footage of timothy leary or read any of his writings. you can smell his ego from miles away.

Ugh. So true. I have a hard time digesting Leary for that reason (and a few others) More of a R.A.W. fan, myself. Helluva lot more palletable than Leary.

[Mr.Writer]

Your an idiot. Seriously go fuck yourself.

well now i just don't even believe you're EVER taken lsd :)

[Myscreename34987]

well now i just don't even believe you're EVER taken lsd :)

Dont you ever go away?

:rolleyes:

Correct you sentence please :)

And what am I supposed to be huh? jesus christ?

[SunshineChild]

^ Yes. I took LSD and I became Jesus.

[Myscreename34987]

^ Yes. I took LSD and I became Jesus.

K? Thats sort of a dumb thought. I mean having a god head is one thing, but believing your a different human being isnt exactly a good thing IMO, and jesus was just a dude, dude.

[SunshineChild]

Tell me more.

[Myscreename34987]

Tell me more.


????

Your cool..

[SunshineChild]

You're cooler because you've had real LSD.

[Myscreename34987]

You're cooler because you've had real LSD.

Lol ...again, " a contest of whos cooler" lol, and "cooler = who has had real acid"

Riiighhtt...SunShInEChILD...lol..

[SunshineChild]

You won the contest, clearly. ;)

[Myscreename34987]

You won the contest, clearly. ;)


Whats you fucking problem dude, if you just gunna be a little smart ass then dont talk at all.

Your parents should bitch slap you

[BlazingDervish]

:lurk5:

[ODB]

Code names? ...They are just NAMES its not "code" --most of the people selling them dont know what it acually is, most of them DONT CARE, just like mr. skribbler here and most of the kids on this forum, "who cares if it fucks you up right?" -----

About the L at the university, yeeett aagggaaaaiiiinnnnn I never said it didnt exist, fucking christ. Obviously its still around. But its not "everywhere", and "everything" is not acid to quote one of you dumb fucks. and its deffinatly not "Just the amount you take" ----

1 uppers 1 uppers 1 uppers ---

Please leave and let the big boys chat.

You missed what I meant or you didnt understand.

Blotter, Gel tabs, liquid......allow many options for other compounds to be passed off as LSD.

There is a small group of people who control what is being put in large production as LSD. They order kilo's of one compound to the next finding what could and could not be sold as acid. If it will not work and they cannot pass it off as mescaline or ecstasy then the flip it for what it actually is and move onto the next chemical.

When they find a keeper they give it a code name. And then you hear about the new LSD xtal name going around circles.

Maybe thats a little bit too much a look down the rabbit hole for you son.

[Myscreename34987]

You missed what I meant or you didnt understand.

Blotter, Gel tabs, liquid......allow many options for other compounds to be passed off as LSD.

There is a small group of people who control what is being put in large production as LSD. They order kilo's of one compound to the next finding what could and could not be sold as acid. If it will not work and they cannot pass it off as mescaline or ecstasy then the flip it for what it actually is and move onto the next chemical.

When they find a keeper they give it a code name. And then you hear about the new LSD xtal name going around circles.

Maybe thats a little bit too much a look down the rabbit hole for you son.

You mean up the chain, yeah totally, RC's being called "synthetic mescaline" and such, PRO-LAD being sold as Czech 25, ect ect. --- IDK what "silver" is, but its fucking disgusting.

And Im not your son. Im probably significantly older then you. not like that makes any difference but dont talk down to people you dont even know.

[itsallgood]

damn Myscreename34987 got pretty mean...Thank god iam smarter haha

[ODB]

You mean up the chain, yeah totally, RC's being called "synthetic mescaline" and such, PRO-LAD being sold as Czech 25, ect ect. --- IDK what "silver" is, but its fucking disgusting.

And Im not your son. Im probably significantly older then you. not like that makes any difference but dont talk down to people you dont even know.

Mental and physical age can be worlds apart son.

Doubt pro-lad would be sold, and czech wasnt like the pro lad reports. misinformation do distract you from the truth. But go ahead and chase that tail a lil more, you might catch it.

[LSDMIKE]

this was the very first post on the chemistry forums
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooool

[LSDMIKE]

:lurk5:

you! :D

[DeadHead723]

yoooo...myscreenname, it sounds like you know what your talking about bro, its too bad know one really reads it/

[ODB]

Telling people that the 6-substituted nor-LSD homologues and analogues are being put into the market at all is just some more jedi mind fuck bullshit.....for da hustlers. Most are not very good substitutes and the others that could be either are very unstable or you have to make LSD to get to them in the first place so why not make LSD, then stop?


I mean shit I have a 'family' kid named after a Hawaiian Island and and his last name is what Paul McCartney became told me the paper sheets he had was eth-lad only because I had talked about that compound and how I would love to try it. Little did he know is it so unstable that is couldn't be put onto sheets. Same guy hooked me up with a boat of Blue buddhas and then asked me to front him a roll and dissapeared. Lil punk bitch. He even sports the wings on his hat. Dog and pony show if you as me.

Karma is killing him cause hes younger than me and looks like he is fucking 40, cause hes a junkie, lol. The roads we all choose to walk down reflect upon us and our reality completely.

[Myscreename34987]

yoooo...myscreenname, it sounds like you know what your talking about bro, its too bad know one really reads it/

This forum is a very very sad place.

I hope someone makes it correctly again and I REALLY hope a few of the people on here come across it.

Again, Im not your son. And my age doesnt matter, your correct. what matters is that your talking down to me and you dont even know me.

And did someone a few posts back claim they "are smarter than me?"

Again, this whole forum makes me sad.

I would post a couple synth ref's to disprove some of the na'sayers ( u know who Im talking about ) , but whats the point?

I just hope the real D comes around and drops your jaws to the floor, I wont even say I told you so.

Give peace a chance.

[DeadHead723]

This forum is a very very sad place.

I hope someone makes it correctly again and I REALLY hope a few of the people on here come across it.

Again, Im not your son. And my age doesnt matter, your correct. what matters is that your talking down to me and you dont even know me.

And did someone a few posts back claim they "are smarter than me?"

Again, this whole forum makes me sad.

I would post a couple synth ref's to disprove some of the na'sayers ( u know who Im talking about ) , but whats the point?

I just hope the real D comes around and drops your jaws to the floor, I wont even say I told you so.

Give peace a chance.

i was actually not trying to diss you dude, it sounded weird tho

[ODB]

I would post a couple synth ref's to disprove some of the na'sayers ( u know who Im talking about ) , but whats the point?


Maybe to prove what you are saying, otherwise its just a bunch of talk. I dunno but that may help your cause.

[Myscreename34987]

i was actually not trying to diss you dude, it sounded weird tho

Not at all, Sorry, Im high energy on this subject because of these fools, dont let my intensity throw you off, I appreciate it your post's very much, the topic just keeps me in constant defense, eh. edit, not the topic, the people.

[ODB]

Not at all, Sorry, Im high energy on this subject because of these fools, dont let my intensity throw you off, I appreciate it your post's very much, the topic just keeps me in constant defense, eh. edit, not the topic, the people.

You wouldn't be on the defense if you could back up your claims.

[Myscreename34987]

You wouldn't be on the defense if you could back up your claims.

Not gunna waste my breath, more than a few people have been in contact through PM, but honestly, I dont feel comfortable sharing it in an open thread.

And for the record im not gunna waste my energy trying to explain something to someone who doesnt care to even TRY and take the info, if your in an all out search to prove me wrong, Im just gunna say fuck it.

And pretty much all of what I have said is covered and explained in erowids purity analysis from this year. So yeah. Mayby take the time to read it?

I just dont think you want to do anything or say anything that makes you like incorrect or misinformed in any way what so ever. So good luck with that. but the info is right there, make your own judgments.

[Myscreename34987]

Telling people that the 6-substituted nor-LSD homologues and analogues are being put into the market at all is just some more jedi mind fuck bullshit.....for da hustlers. Most are not very good substitutes and the others that could be either are very unstable or you have to make LSD to get to them in the first place so why not make LSD, then stop?


I mean shit I have a 'family' kid named after a Hawaiian Island and and his last name is what Paul McCartney became told me the paper sheets he had was eth-lad only because I had talked about that compound and how I would love to try it. Little did he know is it so unstable that is couldn't be put onto sheets. Same guy hooked me up with a boat of Blue buddhas and then asked me to front him a roll and dissapeared. Lil punk bitch. He even sports the wings on his hat. Dog and pony show if you as me.

Karma is killing him cause hes younger than me and looks like he is fucking 40, cause hes a junkie, lol. The roads we all choose to walk down reflect upon us and our reality completely.


So, all LSD is real LSD because why? and what the fuck does that have to do with anything factual about LSD?

And seriously, u need to do ALOT more research into chemistry, cause your making a fool of yourself.

[floes]

well. according to my lab test the goverment considers what i use to have LSD.
so i guess thats good.

though, i needed like 3 or 4 hits. i dont think it was pure. i think the extraction of it, maybe 90% but no fluff. but, still the substance, still enough to get me C felonys. :D lol

[floes]

and if u can get this real substance, someone send me a "REALLy" happy birthday card ;D

[ODB]

So, all LSD is real LSD because why? and what the fuck does that have to do with anything factual about LSD?

And seriously, u need to do ALOT more research into chemistry, cause your making a fool of yourself.

You obviously don't understand what I wrote.

You cannot back up your claims so you attack me to distract any readers attention from the fact that you refuse to back up your BS. And you can't back it up cause you talk out your ass.

Put up or shut up punk.:cheers2:

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Yeah, myscreenname you don't know what you're talking about.
How can LSD possibly be fake LSD? This whole thread is a joke.

[peacegrow]

Apparently Myscreename34987 had a profound experience once or twice while tripping on acid, but got bunk all the other times.

How he (and his slick buddy) apply that to reality says more about them than it says about the truth.

It's an interesting idea...but maybe it would be best to try to let go of it.

[floes]

fact: Id like some.
fact: everyone thinks everyone is a cop on this website and wont share the love. share the love!!! i need some mental perception loveinnn!

[IpsissimusFaustus]

fact: Id like some.
fact: everyone thinks everyone is a cop on this website and wont share the love. share the love!!! i need some mental perception loveinnn!

Fact: I'd like some too.
Fact: asking shit like that on a public forum is dangerously close to illegal
Fact: you should stop asking such things

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Fact: I haz LSD and am not sharing it with any of you. :D

[floes]

LULZ nice. the government took all my lsd =( fuckers.

[ODB]

Apparently Myscreename34987 had a profound experience once or twice while tripping on acid, but got bunk all the other times.


His profound trips can be achieved by other chemicals that act upon the same brain receptors.

Is it really bunk or just another lesser chemical.

Research David Nichols.

[peacegrow]

I don't know....maybe if those analogues Nichols worked with were somehow cheaper or easier to make...or could be made accidentally if you attempted to make LSD and failed....but it doesn't seem like that's the case. I guess it does prove there's something other than LSD that would fit on a blotter and have similar effects since Nichols found some, but I still don't think street acid is made with those rather than LSD.

I think it's much more likely weak doses (or in some rare cases DOx or bromo) when someone has a sub par experience....or just not a good day for acid.

This is an interesting article from erowid on the topic:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article2.shtml

When I first started taking acid, people would always talk about how much speed or strychnine was in the acid. Both don't really make sense and are no longer considered true. I think LSD has a body high sometimes, and it can affect someone differently at different times. It's such a profound experience that we have a tendency to attribute those differences to something chemical when that isn't necessarily what is causing the difference.

[shermin]

Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)

Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics. In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.

not too nitpick, but i saw a doccumentary which said his second [first intentional] dose was ~250 mics...


:)

[IpsissimusFaustus]

Also, Hofmann did not die of cancer, he had a heart attack.

Aldous Huxley had his wife injection him with 100 mics as he was dying.

[Softball]

Why don't you guys just drop all the bullshit, take out your dicks and measure them already?

It's amazing that, no matter how many insights we see into ourselves, or how gone we think our egos are, ego is still the primary determining factor in how we interact.

So many people waste so much time trying to show how they were there, they are in the know, they've got the real deal while everyone else has shit. It's the highly evolved equivalent of apes beating their chests.

Who really cares? I understand wanting to have a cataloged experience, an understanding of the unique properties of each chemical, but LSD isn't imbued with any more magic than any other chemical, other than what each user determines subjectively.

The only objective facts are that LSD-25 is illegal and difficult to synthesize, meaning that like "Ecstasy," any product on the street labeled as such is suspect, could be riddled with active or inactive adulterants, or could be a different chemical altogether.

No one here can identify by eye the chemicals contained in a pill, on a blotter, or in liquid. And no first-timer will be able to tell the difference between the various psychedelics that he could be taking. It doesn't seem like saying "well my guaranteed genuine LSD trip was like xxxx, so yours will be as well" is any reliable means of measure. There are exceptions, of course, but until this stuff is legal, there's always going to be an element of chance involved.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

^ Good post. I added to your reputation Softball.
I've never used the reputation system on here at all, I think it's time to start doing it more often. :p