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Spiderman,UFO's
01-24-2005, 06:29 PM
Has anyone tried real pure LSD? I read in a report about albert Hoffman and they asked him why he didn't want LSD on the streets, and he said because chemists will give it a bad name if made different. I also heard that pure LSD has no body high, it's just all in the mind. Timothy leary stated "to all you acid freaks out there, who think they have tried acid, well you haven't, unless you have tried pure LSD. Pure LSD is supposed to be very spiritual. Also LSD- 25 is supposed to make you all "speedy" and usually will get you naueseated. I have tried LSD 4 times now, and know for a fact that pure LSD is a different more spiritual experience. The only pure LSD that was around was in the 60's and 70's.
Jabbawaya
01-26-2005, 01:58 AM
It should all be very similar... and there should always be a body component to it since LSD also acts on dopamine receptors. The serotonin system is enough to create a body high by itself, actually, and it should.
Of course pure LSD would be different. Taking pure THC is slightly different from smoking weed. Taking pills of psilocybin is slightly different from taking mushrooms. It has to do with other chemicals present. So yes, you're right to some degree, but it's not such a huge difference.
The Flow
01-26-2005, 05:50 PM
Iīm not quite sure, if anyone around here has ever tried 100% pure LSD.
Because of the very small doses, you always need carrier substances (or have you ever tried to swallow 200ugs of anything? Thatīs almost nothing, less than a bit of fly excrements on a window...). Those carrier substances have an influence on the substance uptake into your body (but some can even speed it up).
Of course, pure LSD would cause an enormous rush of fast developing activity, but I donīt think this is too much different to "normal" LSD.
If you really want a "pure" LSD-Experience beyond all youīve ever experienced, find a physician you really can trust (not your "doc" round the corner) and let him inject you 2 or 3ugs of LSD directly into your spine (into the brain liquor) under permanent EKG-monitoring. PLEASE DON`T DO THIS ON YOUR OWN, YOU COULD HARM YOURSELF VERY BADLY AND EVEN KILL YOURSELF!
Maggie Sugar
01-26-2005, 06:16 PM
Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)
doubtful, he experimented only once of his own free will and not even with a psychedelic dose. Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics. In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.
BlackBillBlake
01-26-2005, 06:43 PM
All I can say on this is that some of the LSD that was around in the early 1970's in the UK and was probably produced by Richard Kemp, was of very great purity and stregnth compared with everything I encountered later on, with only one or two exceptions.
Over the years have been various scare stories about impurities in acid. At one time, it was said that strychnine and amphetamine were present in some tabs. However, this is extremely improbable. For one thing, looking at a microdot pill, you can't actually get enough of either of these substances in there to be effective.
Most of the acid in the uk in recent years is not put out in very high doses. Often, its probably only about 50 mcrgms per blotter.
If you want to trip and be sure you are getting purity, my advice is to go for high stregnth mexican mushrooms - that is if you are concerned about the purity of LSD.
Often, what people put down to impurity though, can be their own reaction to the drug. In the initial phases for example, it can often lead to a release of adrenalin. The usual 'butterflys' sensation is intensified by the effect of the acid, and people think something is wrong. My experience is that this phenomenon is more likely to persist with lower doses. So called 'speedy' effects can often be put down to the same or similar causes.
Although it doesn't affect the body directly, LSD can lead to a very wide range of what are experienced by the tripper as physical sensations. And sensations which are usually present can become intensified, or even brought to light from subliminal areas of consciousness.
I've had the experience also of it leading to a release of physical tension. It is as though we carry tensions in our bodies all the time of which we are not fully aware. The increased bodily awareness which psychedelics can bring makes one suddenly aware of it - stiffness, say, in the legs. To the inexperienced even something this simple can lead to problems.
LostChord
01-30-2005, 06:24 AM
lets be honest who thinks they could clear their mind and meditate on some acid? no one.
umm actually its incredibly easy.. I would say a hell of a lot easier then meditating sober... and its just incredible..
thats where the posibilites of lsd become infinite
BlackBillBlake
01-30-2005, 01:58 PM
umm actually its incredibly easy.. I would say a hell of a lot easier then meditating sober... and its just incredible..
thats where the posibilites of lsd become infinite
Yes - I agree.
But I don't like the word 'sober' here. It implies that LSD is an intoxicant like alchohol. 'Straight' might be better.
LostChord
01-30-2005, 05:16 PM
well i consider 'sober' being a state of mind not affected by outside agents.. a state of mind in which you 'should' drive a vehicle.. or 'should' operate machinery and whatever else you find on those sorts of labels and shit lol...
but I understand how other could view it differently...
crummyrummy
01-30-2005, 05:22 PM
Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)
Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics. In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.No I believe he only tried it once after his initial accident. I read his journal entries about it a while back in some book a while back.
EllisDTripp
02-02-2005, 02:30 AM
Well, "carrier substances" could easily be blotting paper, or sugar cubes (I think I'm dating my age here LOL.)
Hoffman took a LOT of acid. He didn't just do it once. His first trip was unintentional, he absorbed some LSD 25 in his fingers during an experiement to study rye ergot. But the next day, he took what he thought would be a "theraputic dose" and by his estimation, it was well over 500 mcgs, maybe even 1,000 mics.
It was a carefully measured 250 mcg, according to his own lab notes, published in his autobiography "LSD, My Problem Child".
In fact when he was dying of cancer, he used LSD as a painkiller and to ease him into the Other World. He spent a lot of time examining tripping, from scientific and spiritual aspects.
I think you are thinking of Aldous Huxley, who went out of the world on a whopping dose of LSD administered by his wife, coincidentally on the same day that JFK was assassinated.
Dr. Albert Hofmann is still very much alive AFAIK...
No I believe he only tried it once after his initial accident. I read his journal entries about it a while back in some book a while back.
Hofmann reportedly used LSD for MANY years (and still may). He reportedly took a threshold dose (25 mcg) every day as a "mental stimulant".
LostChord
02-03-2005, 02:14 AM
It was a carefully measured 250 mcg, according to his own lab notes, published in his autobiography "LSD, My Problem Child".
in the movie "Hofmann's Potion" he says a quarter of a milligram, so yes 250ug (micrograms)
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