View Full Version : Dextromathorpan (DXM)
Ocean Byrd
05-25-2004, 11:47 PM
What's your opinion on it? For those who don't know, it iss a legal substance that is used as a cough supressant. Although it can be found in many cough and cold remedies, it is (more often than not) accompanied by other chemicals and is thus hard to obtain in a safe formula; I know there are websites out there that sell arond 98% pure amounts for chemical testing.
In my experience, as long as DXM is the only active ingrediant, the possibility of puking is worth the trip. I, myself, have only tried it twice, the second time was amazing; 780 mg.
Anyway, how do you feel about this chemical? It is related to Ketamine and PCP, by the way.
Jetblack
05-26-2004, 12:53 AM
i have tried DXm once it was roughly a 500 mg dose, i belive this druh is a very good and probably one of the bets legal highs, i suggest to any1, but some of the side effects and long terms effects are bad, DXM is VERY VERY bad on ur liver, some of the side effects during ur high and after it are very bad also, one of the major long terms effetcs ive had is ive lsot some of my typing skillz, i can no longer type correctly and often miss spell words, but overall if u use it reponsibly and on occasion then yes i say go for it, i dunno who said it but i remember a quote "control the substance dont let it control u"
ps also i found DXM to have slight addiction qualities up to 2 weeks after i took it i was noticing that every time i was alone i would think about getting high again and everytime i went to the store i would just stare at the cough syrup isle
mowgli
05-26-2004, 01:12 AM
i don't claim to be an expert on the subject of DXM, but.........i find it difficult to believe that 1 trip has had ANY major, long-term side effects on you. I was under the impression that you have to either take a few really big doses, or use it chronically (every other day or more) for the stuff to actually effect you. and another thing........if it did effect you... surely it wouldn't make ur typing skills any better or worse, it would just fuck you up in the head. Like i say i'm no expert but just givin my opinion
cheers
peace
mofojackson
05-26-2004, 03:30 AM
I just took somewhere around 360mg about 2 hours ago. It kinda sucks because I haven't reached any kind of hallucination level yet but really, you can't screw up your typing skills from 1 dose of 500 mg. If anything screwed you up it was a different drug.
mofojackson
05-26-2004, 03:33 AM
Oh and another thing, DXM makes me itchy as fuck! Goddamn I can't stop rubbing myself it's so annoying.
Jetblack
05-26-2004, 03:43 AM
ya thats normal, also if u only took like 250 u wont hallucinate, with 500 i had mild-avergae hallucinations nothing full blown, i insist u try clsoign ur eyes and looking for visuals those were the most intense for me
madboy139
05-26-2004, 04:42 AM
i believe the itching thing comes from being related to opiates. same with the cough suppressant effects. ive never done dex but the itching on opiates is a fantastic feeling just to lay there and scratch.
Ocean Byrd
05-26-2004, 05:24 AM
DXM isn't related to opiates, it's a dissacociative (or however you spell it), like PCP. Also, I don't think 500 mg of DXM messed up your typing skills; I took 780 mg and can type fine. Of course, that wasn't all-to pleasant that time, I used Coriciden Cough and Cold because I couldn't find any Robitussen Cough Gels, and didn't learn until later that I'd taken almost 4 times the suggested limit for the anti-hestimine (can't spell that either >_<). My parents took me into the ER because my heart was racing (normal side effect of DXM) and I got pumped and had to spend the night in the cardiac unit; that sucked.
Never, EVER, take 26 CCC pills.
I don't think I overdosed, but it was better safe than sorry.
cshroom
05-26-2004, 05:42 AM
no dude dont go for ccc go for DEX ALONE or DESLYUM 12 its pure
TRUST ME!
Ocean Byrd
05-26-2004, 05:51 AM
I know this, that's why I said to not take CCC...
Robitussen Cough Gels!! GO GO!!
jtryp
05-26-2004, 06:07 AM
>>>>>DXM isn't related to opiates
well DXM's stereoisomer is levomethorphan... an opiate.
but it dosn't bind to opiate receptors. to say it's unrelated to
opiate is false but so is to say it is an opiate. :cool:
Ocean Byrd
05-26-2004, 06:09 AM
Oh well, that would explain how I tested positive for opiates when I was in the hospital then...
Jetblack
05-26-2004, 12:28 PM
ya dude the evil c's as my friends call it are just evil waiting to get out, and ya also i ended up in the er cause my heart stopped it was still beating like 80bpm wen i was resting but i decided i had to walk around my house and it got up to 140 bpm and my herat stopped and i passed out not much fun getting pumpmed either
Jetblack
05-26-2004, 12:29 PM
ya some of the chemicals i heard in DXm are related to opiates as i also tested positive for opiates
crackforkids
05-26-2004, 03:07 PM
has anybody been up and above 1,000mg's?
i tried it at a hotel party and it was off the chain. dont expect much, its like a DEEP K hole or somethin. CrAzY
madboy139
05-26-2004, 10:48 PM
dextromethorphan isn't an opiate but it IS related to opiates.
Ocean Byrd
05-27-2004, 02:31 AM
Someday, I will take 1,000 mg of powder DXM and either mushies or LSD; now that would be a trip of enlightenment.
xaosflux
05-27-2004, 04:22 AM
DXM is considered a dissacociative anesthetic (sp?). It is in the same class of drugs as Ketamine and PCP. It is not an opiate.
Ocean Byrd
05-27-2004, 05:34 AM
No, it is not, but it has some agents that are in opiates; that's what was discussed earlier.
madboy139
05-27-2004, 10:37 PM
no dxm has no agents in it that are opiates. what the fuck does that mean anyways? dxm is closely related to the opiates not in the effects (except for the cough suppressant abilities and maybe a few other things) it gives but chemically it is related. dxm is a disassociative anaesthetic but that has nothing to do with its chemical make up only its pharmacology.
DXM is the dextro isomer of 3-Methoxy-N-methylmorphinan. Levorphanol which is a very powerful synthetic opiate is the levo isomer of 3-Hydroxy-N-methylmorphinan. Is that proof enough that it's chemically related to opiates?
I believe though I'm not sure that DXM was originally synthesized when scientists were looking for a chemical which had the same cough-suppressant effects as the opiates without giving an opiate high. I believe the only reason it is not considered an opiate is because its effects are so different.
Does anyone know how chemists actually define opiate?
Ocean Byrd
05-28-2004, 06:24 AM
I meant that it was chemically related...
JoneeEarthquake
06-02-2004, 03:10 AM
I took a whole shitload of DXM at my grandmas house one day, and i almost fell in my plate at least 5 times, and then my dad came to pick me up and i had to focus so hard on walking, i couldnt focus and everything i looked at danced around and swirled, you can imagine what a car ride down a winding road blasting phish was like. Good trip, but only one hallucination was that the walls were bleeding purple blood. bad bad bad hangover though:)
gnrm23
06-02-2004, 02:02 PM
www.third-plateau.org (http://www.third-plateau.org)
www.dextroverse.org (http://www.dextroverse.org)
PeRrY
06-02-2004, 02:43 PM
I like powder, to the actual cough syrup.
After chugging the shit to get off for a while, i can't even stand the smell of it anymore. But if you get the powder, just put it in a capsule, and pop it. Easy as that. -> and with the powder, you dont have to put a bunch of shit in you, Only like half a gram VS. a whole bottle with only like 1/2 a grams worth of DXM in it.
sag aloo
06-02-2004, 04:07 PM
yeah using cough syrup is totally sad esp. wen pure powder is fucking piss cheap
I done 425mg a couple o years back quite a nice mild state very differing 2 k - 600mg prob more like a dose
sPiNtHeDiSc
07-16-2004, 03:17 AM
Does DXM really fuck up your liver? I thought that was just the other chemical in CCC pills...I know that ive done a lot of research on DXM and i havent found anywhere that DXM itself is bad for your liver.
xhipchick4ux
07-23-2004, 05:18 PM
ya thats normal, also if u only took like 250 u wont hallucinate, with 500 i had mild-avergae hallucinations nothing full blown, i insist u try clsoign ur eyes and looking for visuals those were the most intense for me
It's different for everyone on how much can effect them and put them on different plateaus. It differs based on weight and what you are taking it in. My boyfriend and I get our DXM from Coricidin. To be on 3rd Plateau for me I gotta take about 14 pills which is 415 mg. For my boyfriend he's gotta take around 19 pills (580ish mg) to get there.
[[[ 1st plateau ]]] :
Great for conversation, yet can be a powerful trip. It all depends on the mindset. Usually one is very empathetic, and has great insights to everything. Also, the physical aspects (robo walk, the drippy feeling, etc) are present. The 1st plateau, when in a good, carefree mode, can be good for a party, or concert, though you should try and act normal, of course.
[[[ 2nd plateau ]]] :
All the effects of the 1st plateau are present, with the addition of more euphoria, a decreased sense of time and a decreased sense of surroundings. Unlike the later plateaus, one is still somewhat coherent on the second plateau. At this plateau, also, doing things such as dancing (though I wouldn't recommend this at a rave), spinning around, rolling, and other physical activities feels quite pleasurable. Some also report closed eye visuals (CEV's) at this plateau. The trick to getting them is to be in complete darkness and to concentrate on the visuals. The visuals aren't anything like visuals from LSD or psilocybin, rather they are more like blankets of color underneath your eyelids or a 'light show inside your head'. The 'weirdness' and alien-ness of the later plateaus is not as strong at the second plateau.
[[[ 3rd plateau ]]] :
Many of the effects of the first two plateaus are present, though the mark of the third plateau is the change in mental perceptions. Whereas sensory/physical effects dominate the second plateau, mental perceptions and time/space distortion are more prevalent on the third (and fourth). Insights are extraordinary. One may tend to shut him/herself away from other people in order to explore their mind at this plateau. This is definitely not a party plateau. I've found that this plateau could be some sort of 'transition' between the physical and the mental that occurs on some sort of 'highway'. The spiraling shapes and the fluid could be the highway that the transition is made on. While on this highway, thoughts and feelings of one's life will pop up. General thinking becomes deeper and more enhanced.
[[[ 4th plateau ]]] :
The highway can be crossed at this plateau. What is on the other side of the highway could be anything. At this point, the tripper usually looses contact with the outside world and ventures into an inward journey. Alien encounters, out of body experiences, etc are not uncommon. Some may even argue that out of body experiences are inevitable at such a rate of dissociation as the fourth plateau. I don't have to mention that this plateau is not for beginners. Note that anything above 20mg/kg (around 1200mg for a person around 60 kilograms) is dangerous and should not be done without close access to a hospital and a smart trip-sitter. Actually, for all intents and purposes, DXM shouldn't be done over 1000mg.
[[[ 5th plateau ]]] (usually reported above 30 mg/kg) :
There have been some reports of a 5th plateau. They include nothing of what is typically a DXM trip. The only reason why I include it here is because there seems to be a specific point where the 4th plateau ends and another plateau is reached. This is probably where DXM's dissociative stage ends and the fully anaesthetic stage begins. The 5th plateau may involve profuse sweating, vomiting, blackouts, coma, respiratory collapse, hypoxic brain damage and possibly death. After effects can last for a week. Anyone willing to reach this plateau is clearly asking for trouble and possibly death. If you go into this territory, you are lucky if you just pass out. If you are unlucky, you will first pass out and then will die.
Visit http://third-plateau.lycaeum.org/ for more info!
xhipchick4ux
07-23-2004, 05:20 PM
Never, EVER, take 26 CCC pills.
I don't think I overdosed, but it was better safe than sorry.
My guy took 40 once and he was tripping out really bad, but he was fine about 24 hrs later.
xhipchick4ux
07-23-2004, 05:21 PM
has anybody been up and above 1,000mg's?
i tried it at a hotel party and it was off the chain. dont expect much, its like a DEEP K hole or somethin. CrAzY
I haven't but my boyfriend got up to 1,200 mgs once.
xhipchick4ux
07-23-2004, 05:25 PM
I took a whole shitload of DXM at my grandmas house one day, and i almost fell in my plate at least 5 times, and then my dad came to pick me up and i had to focus so hard on walking, i couldnt focus and everything i looked at danced around and swirled, you can imagine what a car ride down a winding road blasting phish was like. Good trip, but only one hallucination was that the walls were bleeding purple blood. bad bad bad hangover though:)
lol. The first time that I took it I was really tired so I took 16 CCC and then like 5 minutes later fell asleep, well I woke up probably a half hour later in my boyfriend's bed and I was freaking out, he told me to just calm down and enjoy it, but I woke up not able to move my legs! It was scary I told him I was gonna throw up and I tried to walk across the floor to his garbage can, and I fell, so he had to pick me up and carry me to the bathroom. Me and him stayed in there most of the nite because I couldn't move and it took me forever to be able to open my eyes without seeing triples of everything.
I was on it again 2 days ago and the wierdest visual I saw was a man eating spaghetti, but instead of having spaghetti sauce on it, he was eating it with blood. It was freaky.
greentea
11-04-2004, 12:37 AM
DXM is the shit...i toke 12 CCCs b4 i knew it was a bad idea, anyway if any of you guys havent done this do it but i advise a few jays and a blunt to make it better...i thought i was being pushed in to clouds by a racecar. very intense next time ill take 700 mg of robitussin coughgels...we'll see that'll be fun
MeatWagon499
11-05-2004, 06:31 AM
DXM is fun as hell. I do a 200-300mg dose when i do it. just remember to wait a month or two between each trip and youll be fine(?maybe).
Mabus
11-05-2004, 06:34 PM
I did 600 mg before. 40 cough and cold pills. I got incredibly sick for a few minutes, maybe 15, puked a few good times. Everything had already disolved. I thought I was a tiki head and I had like sewer running out of my mouth while I was doing it. After it all stopped I felt like a million bucks. I walked out into my friends living room and everything started shaking I thought their was an earthquake going on. It was definetly the shit. The whole night I kept tripping in and out. Pretty enjoyable. I suggest extracting the dxm and filling gel capsules full of the powder. Go to google and look up the website dextroverse. Its a website dedicated to DXM. They give some good extraction methods. Taking pills and syrups is bad on your liver. I wouldnt suggest doing it that often. I always liked the "dark" high it gave. It was like cynical but enjoyable.
randy
11-10-2004, 12:45 AM
highly do not recommend using coricidin and cough syrups, they have aceteminophen and some have other drugs in them too,
bad
try to get pure powder, it is avaialble now,
you are risking it big time by taking coricidan and cough syrups
it is virtually 100% safe by itself but safe at all in cough and cold form
good luck
sPiNtHeDiSc
11-26-2004, 08:59 PM
some cough medicines are safe...as long as its pure. just dont go taking shit with a bunch of different chemicals in it. very unsafe
TresBizzare420
11-27-2004, 06:03 AM
I have dexed about 5 different times, and with each experience I had both good and bad effects. Each trip usually starts out with a feeling of slowly slipping in to a dream like world. For me, it takes about an hour if not more for a trip to really kick in. On my best trips, I would get really sleepy and then fall asleep. I would then wake up after sleeping for sometime, and when I would wake up, I would find myself completely tripping. I would look around the room and time would seem distorted. Everything physically would move very slowly, but mental the world races fast. As time is distorted, the room itself becomes distorted. At that point I completely loose myself in my thoughts, and hallucinations. One thing I really love about DXM is that it motivates me and makes me think about things from such a vibrant position. Last time I dexed, I wrote down my thoughts onto a piece of paper forming a very deep story, yet when I read it sober, it was pretty hard to follow.
Warning, while DMX has some amazing results, one cannot forget that DXM can lead to some freaky times. As time is distorted, confusion rushes in and with confusion comes fear and paranoia. If the mood of the trip takes on an upsetting toll remind yourself you are on DXM and that you are tripping and kinda force yourself to enjoy the trip, since it starts to turn the trip 180 degrees.
One thing that is always common at least for me in my trips is smiling, confusion, laughter, wonder, fear, and excitement.
Make sure you do not drive unless you are 100% sobered up before doing so. The next morning after my trip I found out that I had to be someplace and I had to drive. Definitely not something I want to do again.
sPiNtHeDiSc
11-27-2004, 09:09 PM
Warning, while DMX has some amazing results, one cannot forget that DXM can lead to some freaky times. As time is distorted, confusion rushes in and with confusion comes fear and paranoia.
I never really understood this...DXM isnt like most hallucinogens in the sense that there isnt really such thing as a good or bad trip...its more like a mix between the "gauranteed good time" of some drugs and the closed eye hallucinations of shrooms or weed. I really never get paranoid or have suicidal thoughts like shrooms can give, I just feel a nice body high and some minor hallucinations.
TresBizzare420
11-29-2004, 07:04 AM
I never really understood this...DXM isnt like most hallucinogens in the sense that there isnt really such thing as a good or bad trip...its more like a mix between the "gauranteed good time" of some drugs and the closed eye hallucinations of shrooms or weed. I really never get paranoid or have suicidal thoughts like shrooms can give, I just feel a nice body high and some minor hallucinations.
First time I dexed I woke up and was tripping, it felt like the entire world shifted and I was sitting there in confusion trying to figure out what was going on, what exactly I did in the time I was sleeping. I guess everyone experiances things differently though.
bringthepain666
11-30-2004, 01:28 AM
Dxm is such a great tripp... And its so worth the posibility of throwing up, the best tripp I have ever had from dxm was this past Friday, and I was completely out of it. I dont recomend this for everyone because I dont think that everyone can handle it, it is very intense. Alot of from what I remember I was freaking out about not existing and not think that I could be real, but it was really great... But thats only because I had an "atomic explosion" from mixing two types of pills together containing Dxm... And I always make sure when Im doing it I have someone who is really experienced with it, or someone who is sober so they can watch me. But if you are gonna fuck around with Dxm do it with a bunch of people because its one of those drugs that you can end up doing something stupid if someone isnt there to watch you...
sPiNtHeDiSc
12-04-2004, 07:56 PM
First time I dexed I woke up and was tripping, it felt like the entire world shifted and I was sitting there in confusion trying to figure out what was going on, what exactly I did in the time I was sleeping. I guess everyone experiances things differently though.
Did you smoke weed? I recently found that weed and DXM together creates a different high which is very similar to shrooms. I had never seen this type of open eye visuals before. They look just like the normal closed eye visuals you get from DXM but they are in perfect color...I almost think that they are more beautiful than shroom visuals...but anyways...weed apparently adds the open eye visuals to DXM. Think of it as a "helper drug" ;)
crackforkids
12-09-2004, 03:41 PM
[[[ 4th plateau ]]] :
The highway can be crossed at this plateau. What is on the other side of the highway could be anything. At this point, the tripper usually looses contact with the outside world and ventures into an inward journey. Alien encounters, out of body experiences, etc are not uncommon. Some may even argue that out of body experiences are inevitable at such a rate of dissociation as the fourth plateau. I don't have to mention that this plateau is not for beginners. Note that anything above 20mg/kg (around 1200mg for a person around 60 kilograms) is dangerous and should not be done without close access to a hospital and a smart trip-sitter. Actually, for all intents and purposes, DXM shouldn't be done over 1000mg.
[[[ 5th plateau ]]] (usually reported above 30 mg/kg) :
There have been some reports of a 5th plateau. They include nothing of what is typically a DXM trip. The only reason why I include it here is because there seems to be a specific point where the 4th plateau ends and another plateau is reached. This is probably where DXM's dissociative stage ends and the fully anaesthetic stage begins. The 5th plateau may involve profuse sweating, vomiting, blackouts, coma, respiratory collapse, hypoxic brain damage and possibly death. After effects can last for a week. Anyone willing to reach this plateau is clearly asking for trouble and possibly death. If you go into this territory, you are lucky if you just pass out. If you are unlucky, you will first pass out and then will die.
Visit http://third-plateau.lycaeum.org/ for more info!
damn. who would want to reach the 5th plateau? i took 1,600mg at that hotel party and i could write a little trip report for ya.
i didnt feel the comeup. i was fucking trippin all of a sudden and i didnt know why. i continually woke up in a new place in the room (kinda scary, got really scary when i started waking up outside). id get lost inside my own head, like i was a little man running a giant machine body. i had to watch all these drunk teenage girls and they were RETARDED, throwing up everywhere, passing out, trying to leave the hotel. One of them made it kinda down the way, but fell into somebody's door and pushed it open! i had to pull her drunken ass out of someone's hotel room, i kept saying "im so sorry for this sir". I carried her back to our room, but things had only gotten worse there. they had ventured outside, and were being quite loud. I convinced them all to go inside, but next thing i know im sitting at a table with the manager. i thought i was fucked for sure... He ended up just wanting to smoke our weed (it took me about an hour of conversating with him to realize this, even though he had been blateently saying it) so i packed up some bowls for him and me. Next thing i know there's a grown woman in the room, she was african american and didn't fit at all. i asked her what her name was and she insisted i called her "re-re" which i refused to because i thought she was trying to trick me into calling her retarded. I kept getting the vibe that she was sometype of prostitute or something, i mean she was OLD and dressed rather provocative. i dont remember going to sleep but my girlfriend at the time said i laid down with her and passed out instantly, and stayed clung onto her like a scared child, stiff as a brick. she tried to pry me off her for a while, but i wouldnt budge or wake up. i woke up the next morning still trippin, i think it lasted another like 3 hours after i woke up.
basically i would say low doses drag time out and make minutes feel like hours, but my high dose created lapses in time. there are portions of the night completely erased from my mind.... its hard to believe i liked it so much i tried to do it again like 3 more times, but id developed such a tolerance i take about 800mg just to get that buzz and 1g to kinda trip. it sucks, DXM lost all its magic for me =[
Mollyredmore
12-11-2004, 07:33 AM
DXM is not worth your time, I had two experiences on it and that was quite enough, though I am without a doubt not a dissociative guy, you know brain damage sux
Mollyredmore
12-11-2004, 07:35 AM
I agree I would not want to touch no damn 5th plateau. Im not even a fan of the third. my highest dose was about 850mg's and Its just not my type of experience.
FuzzWah
12-14-2004, 03:59 AM
i remember I had taken it pure once, the first time i ever tried it. Pretty crazy, not my preference in good trips, but it was definately something. When it had really started kicking in I was just starring up at the sky in my front yard and i didn't have the effort to get up. After a while i went inside and turned all the lights off in my room and rolled around on my bed in crazy frantic motions. I was seeing patterns of lines and shapes that were getting larger and smaller and moving around in the darkness. The visuals reminded me of those old screensavers called mystify your mind or something, with all the lines that move around.
I tried taking it a couple times thereafter in coriciden and other forms, but nothing had quite reached the same effect. Overall i would not suggest it, its a pretty dirty trip, not real uniform in the way it effects the thought processes. If you really want to just trip on something that's legal then you should check out 2ci and 2ce, and there's plenty of other legal drugs with low reputations.
crackforkids
12-16-2004, 03:07 PM
fuck DXM.
even at 1.5g it wasnt too much fun or introspective.
GO SPECIAL K!
GO MUSHROOMS!
purcolekraze
12-22-2004, 04:58 PM
What's your opinion on it? For those who don't know, it iss a legal substance that is used as a cough supressant. Although it can be found in many cough and cold remedies, it is (more often than not) accompanied by other chemicals and is thus hard to obtain in a safe formula; I know there are websites out there that sell arond 98% pure amounts for chemical testing.
In my experience, as long as DXM is the only active ingrediant, the possibility of puking is worth the trip. I, myself, have only tried it twice, the second time was amazing; 780 mg.
Anyway, how do you feel about this chemical? It is related to Ketamine and PCP, by the way.
I have tried DXM numerous times all in the pure form wether it was the pure pill or gell caspels. I like DXM but doing it too many times can fuck with your brain big time. As for relating the substance to Ketamine and PCP I can't say anything for I have never tried those.
xhipchick4ux
01-08-2005, 03:14 AM
First time I dexed I woke up and was tripping, it felt like the entire world shifted and I was sitting there in confusion trying to figure out what was going on, what exactly I did in the time I was sleeping. I guess everyone experiances things differently though.
That's pretty much what happened to me too.
akbal
01-19-2005, 03:47 AM
damn. who would want to reach the 5th plateau? =[
For future reference, the 5th plateau refered to here is called Plateau Sigma. While one can generally reach the first four plateaus by dosing in a single session (i.e. a given number of mg within an hour or so), to reach Sigma one reportedly must carefully take several different doses over a period of time. (This could be quite dangerous for the inexperienced dexxer). A Sigma trip can last several days, and from what I have been told is a more lucid trip, but one in which your awareness is elevated to extreme levels. This can apparently be a _very_ rewarding trip but one must be sure they know their reaction to dex well, and also be able to take at least 3 days away from work as you will probably be unable to function normally for a while.
akbal
01-19-2005, 03:48 AM
damn. who would want to reach the 5th plateau? =[ For future reference, the 5th plateau refered to here is called Plateau Sigma. While one can generally reach the first four plateaus by dosing in a single session (i.e. a given number of mg within an hour or so), to reach Sigma one reportedly must carefully take several different doses over a period of time. (This could be quite dangerous for the inexperienced dexxer). A Sigma trip can last several days, and from what I have been told is a more lucid trip, but one in which your awareness is elevated to extreme levels. This can apparently be a _very_ rewarding trip but one must be sure they know their reaction to dex well, and also be able to take at least 3 days away from work as you will probably be unable to function normally for a while.
crackforkids, I sympathise. I have no desire to go there either.
Stalkz
01-19-2005, 07:28 PM
has anybody been up and above 1,000mg's?
i tried it at a hotel party and it was off the chain. dont expect much, its like a DEEP K hole or somethin. CrAzY
I weigh 165lbs, my reccomended dose for a Fourth Plateau is 1337mg. Yes, I have done it, with some regularity.
Cranberry crush (thats what we call dex) is my favorite entheogen, I ingest it somewhat often. Usually only a few times a month, but I did a five day binge two weeks ago and a three day one the day before yesterday (and the couple days before it)
I usually only go for a third plateau but usually end the binge with a fourth, and unintentionally reach Sigma somewhere inbetween. That's only been good twice. I mean a good tirp. It's always good to reach it.
DrSpaceman
02-10-2005, 09:26 AM
The only way I've tried it was as a "chaser" to 6 dramamines. Supposedly with a bottle of Romilar, you could get the same effect from 6 as from 12 without it, and it worked. The hallucinations were a combination of acid-like patterns, but less symmetrical, and real hallucinations, not quite like the really freaky stuff you hear about from belladona, but along the same lines. I saw a tree stump that I thought was a frog, a bat with boomerangs flying off its wings, and scenery in a car with a mattress in place of all but the driver's seat, despite the fact that my eyes were closed and below the window level. Another time, a hand came up behind my record player.
Speaking of cough syrup, when you could still sign for a bottle of codeine cough syrup, I bought one, chugged it, and got nothing, but the same thing happened when I hit half a bag of scag. I did get off smoking a cigarette dipped in tincture of paregoric, which I got from someone in Virginia, where you could still sign for it and not need a prescription. I had two bizarre dreams, both ending in violence on my part, pacifist that I was. Another guy who tried it said he dreamed he woke up, thought he was still asleep, and slashed his wrists to find out.
DrSpaceman
02-10-2005, 09:38 AM
I did try some "psilocybin" once that turned out to be a belladonna derivative. I was getting bummed out by all the gnats or mosquitoes that kept swarming around my feet. I sat at a dorm desk and saw a vending-machine refund card. The letters all came together in the middle of the card like a little pile of grass, then they turned into more gnats and flew at me.
There was a Beatles poster on the opposite wall, and I kept getting up for a closer look to try to find the motor that was making their heads move from side to side. Then one of the guys poured some bootleg whiskey into a paper cup and set it in front of me. While I was staring at it, the half-full cup filled up with foam and a little troll doll came up out of it and disappeared. It foamed again, and Snidely Whiplash stood on the edge of the cup, dove off, and disappeared before he reached my face. Oo-oo-oo-oo!
Jack_Straw2208
02-13-2005, 07:20 PM
dude, you're going to end up 3 feet high and 40 something pounds when you're done developing, with all these chemicals you're bombarding your system with at your tender age..
water_dreamer
02-13-2005, 09:50 PM
What's your opinion on it? For those who don't know, it iss a legal substance that is used as a cough supressant. Although it can be found in many cough and cold remedies, it is (more often than not) accompanied by other chemicals and is thus hard to obtain in a safe formula; I know there are websites out there that sell arond 98% pure amounts for chemical testing.
In my experience, as long as DXM is the only active ingrediant, the possibility of puking is worth the trip. I, myself, have only tried it twice, the second time was amazing; 780 mg.
Anyway, how do you feel about this chemical? It is related to Ketamine and PCP, by the way.
i've never done it but i dont know if i would either. a friend of mine has done it a few times and now she has these crazy after effects coming to her like 3 months later, but for all i know those are due to all the other drugs she does.
would anyone recomend doing it?
Jack_Straw2208
02-13-2005, 11:45 PM
you get used to the after effects after a while.. and i guess they usually only come after using a little bit... not the dose kids are goin for when they want to see shit.. but yeah, mostly just depersonalization from the world... a detatched feeling. you get over it.
Jack_Straw2208
02-13-2005, 11:46 PM
just dont use cordacin cold and cough, or any thing that has active ingredints other than dxm.
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