To The Members of "Christian Hippies"

[Lilyrayne]

This thread is for people who were regulars in my private forum, "Christian Hippies".

Hey guys! Just wanted to let you know that I informed Skip that I was a supporter, so hopefully the private forums will be back up again soon. In the meantime, how about if everyone checks in here? Since we all had to re-register and all.

-Bree

[spinelli]

Bree, I never did get around to ur private forum
but Im very interested in the concept
how exactly would u describe a christian hippie?

[Lilyrayne]

Well... a hippie-type person that believes in God! LOL

I personally believe that being a "hippie" isn't about what religion you pratice or even what political side you're on. It's about basic fundamental beliefs: love, acceptance... advocation of peace... etc. There are a lot of other people who feel the same way, we had a LOT of Christian hippies as members of the forum. Some people even say Jesus was a hippie. :)

So many people think that part of being a hippie is being pagan or wiccan and left-wing. Not so. Just because at times that seems to be what the majority of "hippies" are, doesn't mean that those are defining traits. Actually, part of being a hippie is NOT succumbing to stereotyping! So that's why I don't base my definition of whether or not someone is a "hippie" solely on political or religious beliefs.

A note to all: don't anyone turn this into a debate thread, ok? Let's let it be a friendly thread.

[Lilyrayne]

P.S. I wish all the forums hadn't been erased so you could have seen some of the wonderful threads that were on Christian Hippies. We had our share of not so wonderful ones as well, but there were lots of really cool ones.

Hopefully when the personal forums are back up, there will be more administrative options to make it easier for the forum to be what it was meant to be. (Those who were regulars know what I am talking about)

[EllisDTripp]

Well... a hippie-type person that believes in God!
So anyone who beileves in "God" would be a Christian? You might want to inform all the other religions about that one. I think the Jews, in particular, might take issue with your "definition".

A Christian would be somebody who follows the teachings of Christ, and believes that Christ was the son of God, was sent to earth to die for humanity's "sins", and will return again in the future.

Simply believing in a "God" does not make one a Christian....

[spinelli]

A note to all: don't anyone turn this into a debate thread, ok? Let's let it be a friendly thread.
ahh, happy, happy joy joy

[Lilyrayne]

So anyone who beileves in "God" would be a Christian? You might want to inform all the other religions about that one. I think the Jews, in particular, might take issue with your "definition".

A Christian would be somebody who follows the teachings of Christ, and believes that Christ was the son of God, was sent to earth to die for humanity's "sins", and will return again in the future.

Simply believing in a "God" does not make one a Christian....
Oh technicalities!

Ok.. since you're right, lemme rephrase that...

"A hippie-type person that follows Christ"

How's that?

[moominmamma]

Glad to find you all in amongst the new forums,which at the moment remind me of a cross between airport reception and a dentists waiting room.............

Just wanted to say how much I was enjoying Christian Hippies just prior to the old forums crashing, there was a togetherness about the forum that was really working,

love to you all

Momminmamma

[Lilyrayne]

Hey moominmama!!! **hugs** Glad to see ya found us!

[EllisDTripp]

Oh technicalities!

Ok.. since you're right, lemme rephrase that...

"A hippie-type person that follows Christ"

How's that? At least it's ACCURATE. :)

And some may not see it so much as a "technicality", but as one more example of Xtianity assuming it is the only religion that exists....

[chickabean]

ello!!! ahhh...i am longingly awaiting the renewal of christain hippes..didnt post a great deal but really appreciate the forum :) got something amazing to share, some of you might have read it before, sorry its so long, well worth reading though :)
love luchi xxx

The vision?

The vision is JESUS – obsessively, dangerously, undeniably Jesus.

The vision is an army of young people. You see bones? I see an army.

And they are FREE from materialism.

They laugh at 9-5 little prisons.

They could eat caviar on Monday ands crusts on Tuesday.

They wouldn’t even notice.

They know the meaning of the matrix, the way the west was won.

They are mobile like the wind, they belong to the nations.

They need no passport. People write their addresses in pencil and wonder at their strange existence.

They are free yet they are slaves of the hurting and dirty and dying.

What is the vision?

The vision is holiness that hurts the eyes. It makes children laugh and adults angry. It gave up the game of minimum integrity long ago to reach for the stars. It scorns the good and strains for the best. It is dangerously pure.

Light flickers from every secret motive, every private conversation.

It loves people away from suicide leaps, their Satan games.

This is an army that will lay down its life for the cause.

A million times a day its soldiers

Choose to lose

That they might one day win

The great ‘Well done’ of faithful sons and daughters.

Such heroes are as radical on Monday morning as Sunday night. They don’t need fame from names. Instead they grin quietly upwards and hear the crowds chanting again and again: ‘COME ON!’

And this is the sound of the underground

The whisper of history on the making

Foundations shaking

Revolutionaries dreaming once again

Mystery is scheming in whispers

Conspiracy is breathing…

This is the sound of the underground

And the army is discipl(in)ed.

Young people who beat their bodies into submission.

Every soldier would take a bullet for his comrade at arms.

The tattoo on their backs boasts ‘For me to live is Christ and to die is gain’.

Sacrifice fuels the fire of victory in their upward eyes.

Winners.

Martyrs.

Who can stop them?

Can hormones hold them back?

Can failure succeed?

Can fear scare them or death kill them?



And the generation prays

Like a dying man

With groans beyond talking,

With warriors cries, sulphuric tears and

With great barrow loads of laughter!

Waiting. Watching:24-7-365

Whatever it takes they will give:

Breaking the rules.

Shaking mediocrity from its cosy little hide.

Laying down their rights and their precious little wrongs, laughing at labels, fasting essentials.

The advertisers cannot mould them.

Hollywood cannot hold them.

Peer pressure is powerless to shake their resolve at late night parties before the cockerel cries.

They are incredibly cool, dangerously attractive inside.

On the outside? They hardly care.

They wear clothes to communicate and celebrate but never to hide.

Would they surrender their image or popularity?

They would lay down their very lives – swap seats with the man on death row – guilty as hell.

A throne for an electric chair.

With blood and sweat and many tears, with sleepless nights and fruitless days, they pray as if it all depends on god and live as if it all depends on them.

Their DNA chooses JESUS. (He breathes out, they breathe in.)

Their subconscious sings. They had a blood transfusion with Jesus.

Their words make demons scream in shopping centres.

Don’t you hear them coming?

Herald the weirdo’s!

Summon the losers and the freaks.

Here come the frightened and forgotten with fire in their eyes.

They walk tall and trees applaud, skyscrapers bow, mountains are dwarfed by these children of another dimension.

Their prayers summon the hounds of heaven and invoke the ancient dream of Eden.

And this vision will be. It will come to pass; it will come easily; it will come soon.

How do I know? Because it is the longing of creation itself, the groaning of the spirit, the very dream of God.

My tomorrow is his today.

My distant hope is his 3D

And my feeble, whispered, faithless prayer invokes a thunderous, resounding, bone shaking great ‘Amen!’ from countless angels from heroes of the faith, from Christ himself. And he is the original dreamer, the ultimate winner.

Guaranteed.

[Juiceman3000]

At least it's ACCURATE. :)

And some may not see it so much as a "technicality", but as one more example of Xtianity assuming it is the only religion that exists....
Wow,

Is that really 'just one more example' Ellis?

Since we are being 'accurate' could you please keep your teaching and correcting tone going and let me know where in Christian Doctrines, The Bible, Church traditions etc, that Christians 'assume' to be the only religion that exists?

Could it be that her post was clearly and unmistakably directed from one Christian to other Christians and obviously the readers new what God and what belief the context was in?

Now when we post in a Christian forum, discussing Christianity are we really going to have to 'Qualify' every statement with (that is... 'OUR' God not saying there isnt others..)

If we dont will you feel the need to 'supermoderate' by jumping in with insult posts and sarcasm like that one?

Come on!

Absolutely no one was confused or 'assuming no other religion exists'.
No one.

[Lilyrayne]

Cool post, Chickabean!

And, thanks for that, Juiceman. :)

[HuckFinn]

Well, maybe this is a good time to try to jumpstart a thoughtful discussion about Christianity and ecology. Here’s an excellent article by Dean Ohlman, who’s been "beating this drum" for years:

http://www.antithesis.com/features/hearing.html (http://www.antithesis.com/features/hearing.html)

This cover story from Outside Magazine, featuring my friend Peter Illyn, is also very good:

http://www.outsidemagazine.com/magazine/200103/200103christian1.html (http://www.outsidemagazine.com/magazine/200103/200103christian1.html)

Peter heads a group called Restoring Eden, which focuses on protecting wilderness and tribal cultures:

http://www.restoringeden.org/png.htm (http://www.restoringeden.org/png.htm)

He recently gave this lively sermon at our church:

http://www.imagodeicommunity.com/mp3/03-28-04.mp3 (http://www.imagodeicommunity.com/mp3/03-28-04.mp3)

[EllisDTripp]

Now when we post in a Christian forum, discussing Christianity are we really going to have to 'Qualify' every statement with (that is... 'OUR' God not saying there isnt others..)

When you post in a "Christian" forum, of course not. But this thread is in the "Philosophy and Religion" forum, NOT a specifically Christian forum. Once one gets set up, obviously assumptions will be different in there, like they are in the rest of the "special interest group" forums.

If we dont will you feel the need to 'supermoderate' by jumping in with insult posts and sarcasm like that one?

Nope. But you continue your obnoxious ways, and I'll "supermoderate" you right out of here, like we did at the old forums....

Absolutely no one was confused...
No one.

Would that include the person who had to ask what a "Christian hippie" was in the first place? :)

[Lilyrayne]

I also started this thread specifically for the members of Christian Hippies with the hope that it would have the same air as the personal forum did. I was hoping that mutual respect would be given.

You may be a moderator but you seem to be causing trouble, not preventing it.

[EllisDTripp]

I also started this thread specifically for the members of Christian Hippies with the hope that it would have the same air as the personal forum did.

You can "hope" all you want, but it is still a thread in a public forum. You can control the "air" in a private forum, but not a public one....

I was hoping that mutual respect would be given.

I was not "disrespecting" anyone. Simply bringing up what seemed to be a rather glaring example of "disrespect" (or at least disregard) for non-Christian religions....

You may be a moderator but you seem to be causing trouble, not preventing it.

Generating debate and discussion does NOT equate to "causing trouble", especially in public forums. When you have your private space back, feel free to dictate acceptable content, thought, and expression however you see fit. Until then, you'll just have to deal with it.....

[HuckFinn]

Hey, Ellis, your real gripe seems to be with Jesus and the rather bold claims he made about himself. "Christians" have historically been defined as people who accept those claims of his to be true. I have trouble believing that you're so shocked to learn that "Christian Hippies" affirm basic Christian tenets. Does your "respect" only extend to fellow relativists?

[Lilyrayne]

Well, Ellis, I accept that your opinion is your opinion. :) Welcome to the discussion, and thank you for participating. :)

Same goes for the rest of ya's.

[EllisDTripp]

Hey, Ellis, your real gripe seems to be with Jesus and the rather bold claims he made about himself. "Christians" have historically been defined as people who accept those claims of his to be true.

The claim that I disputed was that anyone who believes in "God" is a Christian. Can you show me where JC made THAT claim? I did not address any of the claims that JC made about himself or God.

I have trouble believing that you're so shocked to learn that "Christian Hippies" affirm basic Christian tenets.

Since when is it a basic Christian tenet that anyone who believes in "God" is a Christian. Again, THAT is the point I disputed.

[Lilyrayne]

The claim that I disputed was that anyone who believes in "God" is a Christian. Can you show me where JC made THAT claim? I did not address any of the claims that JC made about himself or God.



Since when is it a basic Christian tenet that anyone who believes in "God" is a Christian. Again, THAT is the point I disputed.
So I used the wrong terminology, suprise, I'm not perfect. :eek: When you pointed that out, I corrected myself. So I don't think that was the basic Christian tenet that Huck was referring to. I think we can all agree that just believing in GOD doesn't make you a Christian. We KNOW that. It was a slip of words, that's all. :) I don't think the terminology is the issue here anymore.

[EllisDTripp]

Yes, you corrected what you said, and as far as I was concerned, I dropped the issue.

Then "HuckFinn" brought it back up again.....

What do YOU think "HuckFinn" is getting at? Nowhere did I express surprise at Xtians espousing Xtian theology. Only the incorrect (and potentially inflammatory) statement that you later retracted.

[Lilyrayne]

I'm not sure how exactly to word what I want to say, but I'm going to take a stab at it. Chances are it won't come out the way I want it to.

I think what Huck was getting at was that "Christian Hippies" (the little group we had going on and the personal forum) affirmed basic Christian tenets in that we all agree on the very basics of what it means to be a Christian, to pratice love, acceptance and other things we feel God and Jesus are all about, and studying the Bible, as well as following the whole "Jesus thing", for lack of a better term. I don't think it had anything to do with terminology... I think even Huck would agree that just believing in God doesn't make one a Christian ( I could be wrong ) so I don't think that was what he was getting at.

That's my interpretation anyway. At the risk of being redundant, here's a recap: I'm not exactly sure what he DID mean by that, only he knows, but my point was that in my personal opinion, I don't feel that by "basic Christian tenets" he meant that "anyone who believes in God is a Christian"

Huck, would you care to clear this up?

[Juiceman3000]

EllisD,

Please state your censorship intentions clearly.

You are letting it be known that anyone stating that Christ is God outside of a personal forum will be subject to censorship?

Dont be 'funny' with word definitions please - banning someone IS censoring their opinions, ideas from this forum.

This seems to be exactly what you are threatening to do?

Maybe we should check and see if this is the wishes of site management and site rules for moderators first. Then proceed from there.

(Im also curious if you intend to apply this rule to ... for example, Hare Krishnas who clearly spoke to each other 'as if' Hare Krishna was the true God without Qualification?)

Please reply with explanation?

[Lozi]

oo i'm a christian hippie:) i am lost though, i don't know how to search for threads i posted in eep:(

[EllisDTripp]

Juiceman:

My comments were directed to YOU and only YOU, and have NOTHING to do with discussions of religion, Xtian or otherwise. Trying to claim that they do in an attempt to recruit supporters here is a desperate move at best.

Comments about "Christ is God" would never be subject to "censorship" outside of a personal forum. They certainly would be subject to criticism, deconstruction, and vigorous debate, if posted in a general "Religion and Philosophy" discussion area. If posters want an area for "believers only" discussions where nobody is allowed to say anything that might contradict anyone else, then they need to set up a personal forum for it.

The "obnoxious behavior" that I referred to is the same kind of crap that got you banned previously. Homophobic comments/trolling in the "Gay" forum, for example. Whether you post them as "JackassJack", "vokalrights", or one of your "juiceman" names, such behavior is against forum guidelines, and is grounds for banning, as you found out previously.

As far as I can tell, the "General Amnesty" that Skip declared for previously banned posters had much more to do with the difficulties of importing the previous "ban list" into the new software than with a desire to see all of you come back. Given time, I am sure most of them will find their way onto the new list. We will be watching.

In the meantime, if you have any more questions about this, PM me or at least post them in an appropriate forum.

[HuckFinn]

The claim that I disputed was that anyone who believes in "God" is a Christian. Can you show me where JC made THAT claim?Well, he did claim that to reject him is to reject God.


Since when is it a basic Christian tenet that anyone who believes in "God" is a Christian. Again, THAT is the point I disputed.It is a basic Christian tenet that (A) there is only one true God and (B) he came to Earth in the person of Jesus of Nazareth some 2000 years ago. Of course, people believe in many different "gods," but in a Christian framework these "gods" are understood to be false.

Having said all that, I suppose that Bree could have been a bit more precise in defining a "Christian hippie," but your antagonistic response has been overwrought. Unclench!

[ChiefCowpie]

the truth is that anyone who believes in God is a Christian but Christians have not understood the their own teachings and have twisted them to have cultic understandings...when christians understand the panthiest nature of Christ's teachings, then they will truly be found in Christ

[HuckFinn]

ChiefCowpie,

I've referred you to this site before, but you've never bothered to respond:

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0088a.html

Why should I believe that Gnosticism reflects the "real" teachings of Jesus?

[lunaluvcat]

Hey all. Nice to see everyone together. Not sure what to think of the new forums just yet. Hope it works out. =)

[WayfaringStranger]

raise the roof bree, im representin. thanks for bringin us all together again, thats good enuff for me, i'll start pickin apart everyones words next week, im just too happy today to get involved.

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[WayfaringStranger]

you dont miss a beat do you cowpie? i have a hard time myself with being humble and understanding that the truth lies with in everyone, but becareful about the pantheistic remarks, for although we are all children of God, we are still Man, and the fallen angel can use that conflict to confuse us and trap us.

[ChiefCowpie]

the fallen angel is a boogie man myth of the early church so folks wouldn't question their authority as it is the devil that would lead one to question so...there is no old testement validation of satan...only in n.t. texts that were altered does such an entity appear...don't believe the hype

[WayfaringStranger]

well i'll have to look into that one. im not the most versed bible scholar, but i will research . . . is the book of Job in the new testament or old . . .??? hmmmmmmm interesting, ill look into it chief.

[ChiefCowpie]

job...o.t.

[WayfaringStranger]

now read the first chapter.

[Juiceman3000]

Juiceman:

My comments were directed to YOU and only YOU, and have NOTHING to do with discussions of religion, Xtian or otherwise. Trying to claim that they do in an attempt to recruit supporters here is a desperate move at best..
Actually your Comments were directed at Bree.
My concern was what exactly she was being warned about and if that warning applied to the group.
IF it was true that Christians would be censored for stating their beliefs then I certainly would hope others would be 'supporting' the original freedom of speech rules of Hipforums.
(I doubt Id have to 'recruit' anyone)

Trying to turn this into a personal debate between you and I sound like a 'desperate move' attempt to make this an ad homonym debate and its not.

Comments about "Christ is God" would never be subject to "censorship" outside of a personal forum. They certainly would be subject to criticism, deconstruction, and vigorous debate, if posted in a general "Religion and Philosophy" discussion area. If posters want an area for "believers only" discussions where nobody is allowed to say anything that might contradict anyone else, then they need to set up a personal forum for it..
GOOD!
This is what I wanted to hear!
I hope that applies equally to Muslims, Athiests and Hindus as well!

Im not sure why you mentioned some request or desire for a forum where no one is allowed to contradict Christian tenents???????

That is not possible in a free speech forum and I have never, never, never heard ANYone (Christian or otherwise) request such a thing?

The "obnoxious behavior" that I referred to is the same kind of crap that got you banned previously. Homophobic comments/trolling in the "Gay" forum, for example. Whether you post them as "JackassJack", "vokalrights", or one of your "juiceman" names, such behavior is against forum guidelines, and is grounds for banning, as you found out previously..
Personally I find you extremely obnoxious. One example might be the way you describe people as 'Xtians'. Deliberate disrespect with no other intention than to insult and spite is my personal standard for 'Obnoxious'.

I do not, and never have made 'Homophobic comments' or 'trolled' the Gay forum.
Once again these are insults directed at me which I consider 'Obnoxious' and also Untrue.
I have never posted as 'Volkarights' and again, this is an untruthful comments about the Juiceman.
Banning me hurts this forum as you found out previously.

As far as I can tell, the "General Amnesty" that Skip declared for previously banned posters had much more to do with the difficulties of importing the previous "ban list" into the new software than with a desire to see all of you come back. Given time, I am sure most of them will find their way onto the new list. We will be watching. .
Your theory is interesting but the fact remains Juiceman3000 has sanctioned amnesty.
Thats the facts.
Im sure certain moderators 'will be watched' too.
Great.

In the meantime, if you have any more questions about this, PM me or at least post them in an appropriate forum.
Thank you EllisD for clarifying your position that you will continue to allow free speech and not ban and censor Christians for stating their beliefs as they understand them to be true.

You did answer my question and I will PM you or use the 'Questions' forum if I have any more.
Please feel free to PM me if you have anymore 'zingers' against me or questions about what I did or did not do in a forum.
Thanks!

[arlia]

HELLO EVERY1!

another xtian hippy here!
hows every1

[ChiefCowpie]

The Old Testament

When copies of the Ancient manuscripts were first translated it was into the Latin Vulgate Bible. At this point in time the Hebrew word 'satan' (spelt the same way in English, Latin and Hebrew) was introduced to its new language. It had never before been used. The Hebrew word 'satan' simply means 'to oppose' or 'to be an adversary'. When the Latin Bible was translated to English, once again, the word was transliterated and introduced, this time, to the English language. In many cases transliterating the word would not have 'fitted into' the doctrine of the day and so in those cases the word was translated.

Before we look at the actual verses let's see the statistics.

The Hebrew 'satan' is used 33 times in the Old Testament.

http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif7 times as 'adversary' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'adversary') http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif3 times as 'adversaries' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'adversaries') http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif1 time as 'accuser' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'accuser') http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif3 times as 'accusers' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'accusers') http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif1 time as 'oppose' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'oppose') http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif1 time as 'stand against' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'stand against') http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclabul1.gif17 times as 'satan' (http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/satan/ot_satan.htm#Hebrew - 'satan', transliterated 'Satan') Of the 17 times the word is transliterated 'satan', 14 are in the Book of Job.

So that you may verify what I am saying for yourself the two numbers to look up in your Strongs concordance are #7853 and #7854.

http://www.potts.net.au/Stand/_themes/satan/aclarule.gif

Satan - A study on the Hebrew word ‘satan’ in the Old Testament

Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'adversary'

Numbers 22:22
Then God's anger was aroused because he went, and the Angel of the LORD took His stand in the way as an adversary (Hebrew - 'satan', translated 'adversary') against him. And he was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him.

(Here we see quite clearly that the angel of the Lord is the 'satan'.)

[Harmony_rain]

I find it interesting that the moderator for the Philosopy and religion site is very closed minded about different religions. Sure she stated that Christians believe in God and that is true, we do. True we are not the only religion that belives in God but we still are that. I also find it rude to call us xstians just because you don't believe in Christianity. I don't go around calling you ******tripp because I'm against the use of drugs and narcotics. But to each his own.

[EllisDTripp]

So now "Xtian" is supposed to be disrespectful in some way? It's called an ABBREVIATION, people!

Do you get similarly bent when "Christmas" is shortened to "Xmas", or when "Transmitter" is reduced to "Xmtr"? There is no disrespect intended, just a saving of keystrokes....

How many people on here use expressions like "LOL", "CUL", or "BRB"?

[Harmony_rain]

accually yes I do its a way to take Christ out of Christmas which was the whole reason for the holliday to begin with not for buying presents for your family and friends. But that is getting off topic.

[EllisDTripp]

accually yes I do its a way to take Christ out of Christmas which was the whole reason for the holliday to begin with not for buying presents for your family and friends. But that is getting off topic.

Well, since most scholars agree that Christ wasn't actually born on 12/25, the REAL reason for the holiday would have been to co-opt the Winter Solstice celebrations that people had been observing for millenia. Replacing the "Rebirth of the Sun" with the "Birth of the Son", ya know? But that's getting WAY off topic....:)

[Lilyrayne]

To my buddies (you know who you are):

I know you may be getting annoyed with the usual banter going on in here, but just remember this is a public forum and people can say whatever they want. Just shrug it off for now and hang in there, don't let it get you riled up. Hopefully the personal forums will be back up soon and we can go there and post freely.

Love to all,

[Lilyrayne]

To a moderator: If you have the time, could this entire discussion be moved to the "Christianity" section??? I'd appreciate it so much. If not that's ok. I don't wanna mess up any posts or anything. I just remember being able to move entire discussions around without messing them up when I was the moderator for a forum similiar to this one.

Thanks!

[EllisDTripp]

Done........

[Lilyrayne]

Thanks!!!!! :D

[ChiefCowpie]

can we stop arguing and keep to the teachings of Jesus and Jesus' himself own appointed successor, James the Just

[ChiefCowpie]

Well, since most scholars agree that Christ wasn't actually born on 12/25, the REAL reason for the holiday would have been to co-opt the Winter Solstice celebrations that people had been observing for millenia. Replacing the "Rebirth of the Sun" with the "Birth of the Son", ya know? But that's getting WAY off topic....:)
that was Paul who wanted to similarize Christianity to the Cult of Mithra to make it more tasty to swallow...he did alot of other things too that changed the nature of Christ's teachings

[Juiceman3000]

Chief,

You might consider posting your flame-baits in topics where they wont seem so desperate for attention?

Thanks,

Juiceman

[Fizzyliftingdrink]

Hello to my Christian Hippies! And everyone else who is reading this!
I'm still getting used to the new forums, and I wish that the new threads started at the first page, instead of the last, does anyone know how I can fix it??
I hope that my friends from Christian Hippies all come back here so we can share God's wonderful works!!
Peace!!

[Lilyrayne]

Yeah! Go to User CP. Click on Edit Options. Scroll down the page to "Thread Display Options" (Sorta in the middle of the page, you'll see the heading in a dark blue line)... then to thread display mode under that. You can select in the dropdown box "Linear - newest first".

Love to you too!

[seahorse]

hi everyone,

I'm looking forward to our personal forums again, but for now I'll just post here once in awhile.
i love you all, the peace of Christ~
seahorse

[Lilyrayne]

*hugs*

*Sits down on the cyber-couch and cries*

I want the forum baaacckkkk! :( WHAAAAAA!!!!!

*sniffle*

[moominmamma]

Passes Bree a large tissue and says hopefully "It'll get better soon Honey."

Seahorse - You will keep us posted about your little lad who had the hospital test (think he was a Josh?) been keeping you in my prayers.

love to you all
Moominmamma

[Lilyrayne]

Moomin, I talked to her recently and she told me they won't know the results for a week or so. Isn't that frustrating? Poor kid. Poor Seahorse. (hugs)

[seahorse]

awww you guys are so kind.

Joshua did awesome, he was brave and didn't cry, even in the recovery room he didn't cry. He wanted jello, though, and lots of it. :0)
so yah the doctor took out the 2 largest lumps for testing, and we will hear those results probably by monday.
thanks for your prayers dudes,
GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME
ALL THE TIME GOD IS GOOD

[moominmamma]

Thanks so much for letting me know.

Joshua sounds like a very strong character, and my mother has always maintained there is a lot of goodness in that jello stuff!

Hugs to you all

Moominmamma

[seahorse]

yikes! i had an abcessed tooth pulled today. I hadn't been to the dentist in 6 years, and yesterday I woke up with a killer toothache, the hospital gave me pain killers that didn't even work, so after another day full of tylenol i waltzed into the dentist office downtown and asked for help. They immediately made me an appointment for a few hours later and after the x-ray showing it was completely abcessed, he went with my decision to yank it.

i am very relieved that it's over but now I have a silly space in my mouth. Do you guys think the space will grow in a bit?
anyways that was my adventure today. *yawn* beddi-bye......

[WayfaringStranger]

bree- maybe as a temporary solution, we could link back to the old christian hippie forum, until new personal forums are worked out.

chief- so then is satan mentioned in the old testament or isnt he? why were you trying to lie to me and say he wasnt? is that where the knowledge of gnosis comes from?

[ChiefCowpie]

satan means the adversary and means anyone who is an enemy of God or the Israelites...never is the Devil referred to as the evil one...not until the advent of the New Testament and the twisting of Jewish understandings by the early church fathers did satan become an fallen angel from grace...don't believe the hype

Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" (Luke 10:18).

[Brocktoon]

Satan certainly is refered to as a sort of 'force against' God in the Old Testament but he is definately refered to as a personal 'being' in several instances - not the least of which comes within the first few chapters of Genesis.

Im not sure why you only selected the references where Satan is described as 'the force against'?

The Ministry of Christ (The Second Adam) also begins with a personified Satan tempting Jesus.

Far from 'twisting' - it quite the parallel wouldnt you agree?

[arlia]

Satan certainly is refered to as a sort of 'force against' God in the Old Testament but he is definately refered to as a personal 'being' in several instances - not the least of which comes within the first few chapters of Genesis.

Im not sure why you only selected the references where Satan is described as 'the force against'?

The Ministry of Christ (The Second Adam) also begins with a personified Satan tempting Jesus.

Far from 'twisting' - it quite the parallel wouldnt you agree?
hiya not been on ere ina while!
how is every body!
just been to a kick ass christian event in stoke on trent called audacious!
man it were so cooll!taught me that jesus did not die for me to live like awhimp,but to live like a warrior....whooohooooo! join the revolution!

[Brocktoon]

Skip, I think we have been over this before but... When the Owner of the Christian Hippies forum posts in the Christianity forum and in her post refers to God - we pretty much all presume which God she is refering too.

Nobody was confused or offended.
Neither would I be if I was in the Islam Thread and the owner of the 'Muslim Hippies' forum ....... you get the point.

Anyyyyway,
I was looking for Bree's forum just last night and was a little distraught. I figured we had all let it die out due to lack of contributions. Im guilty and will try and do better Bree :D

[Lilyrayne]

LOL Brocktoon, no, Christian Hippies is alive and well. It has a new name now, called The Hallowed Tree. :) But it's still the same forum, just a different name!