Black magick nasty curses

[Samhain]

what do you think about curses and black magick.
would you ever curse anyone, have you ever dabbled in the black arts, hang on why is it an art if its black, but a craft if its white?
anyhow dare you be honest post here!

blessing
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[BraveSirRubin]

I think that it is just as real, right, and accurate as God, Fortune Reading, and the Zodiac.



Side Note : I think that all of the above things are idiotic.

[HappyHaHaGirl]

I would if I could, if they had been mean to me...

I guess Karma kind of does it's thing. I do like to watch people suffer without guilt...so karma is a better deal. But it would be cool to be able to curse people. :)

[Samhain]

I think that it is just as real, right, and accurate as God, Fortune Reading, and the Zodiac.



Side Note : I think that all of the above things are bloody idiotic.

it is what it is

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[kitty fabulous]

i think 99% of the time cursing is a waste of energy. i mean really, what's the point? most people do such a lovely job of "cursing" themselves through their own actions and stupid decisions, why would i want to be bothered raising all that nasty energy to curse? i'd rather just be around to watch them fuck themselves over!

[Samhain]

i think 99% of the time cursing is a waste of energy. i mean really, what's the point? most people do such a lovely job of "cursing" themselves through their own actions and stupid decisions, why would i want to be bothered raising all that nasty energy to curse? i'd rather just be around to watch them fuck themselves over!

thankyou for a nice response kitty and happyhahagirl

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[olhippie54]

Black Magic is bullshit.

[Dustinthewind]

my sister and i were going to put a "bad" curse on my ex-husband, he is very deserving of one, but we read that when you make a bad curse on someone, it comes back at you 3 times worse. needless to say, we changed our minds.

[joe]

Ha!, this thread is fun

i dont beleive in black magick or any other supernatural forces, ive had distant relatives say they've cursed my family before, brought a plaugue upon my house, my aunt beleived the bull and called some weird voodoo people to "Cleanse" the house buncha nuts took a dead chicken an started wavin it around saying a bunch a mumbo jumbo and dancin around the dead chicken....FUNNIEST SHIT IVE EVER SEEN!

[Erin]

black magick is an awesome fertalizer for roses made at the landsdale nusery.

awesome stuff

[ChiefCowpie]

as i have recieved some complaints about this thread, let's keep it clean of flaming and personal attacks as this is against the forum rules...thanks, the Sheriff

[Samhain]

i posted it to start a discussion and for fun and i was in no way promoting the use of black magic or cursing people, i always think its good to stay neutral in ones view at the beginning of your own poll then it doesn't colour anyone elses ideas, and then post a little later


my sister and i were going to put a "bad" curse on my ex-husband, he is very deserving of one, but we read that when you make a bad curse on someone, it comes back at you 3 times worse. needless to say, we changed our minds.

Karma is a concept that is key to the wiccan faith for a lot of people.
the wiccan (religion of witchcraft to be really simplistic about this) rede goes like this

'bide the wiccan law you must
in perfect love and perfect trust.
eight words the wiccan rede fulfill:
if it harms none do what you will
what you send out comes back to you
so ever mind the rule of three
follow this with mind and heart
and merry we meet and merry we part.'
(adapted from the 'sorcerer's handbook by peter j. clark)

most wiccan's wouldn't go against the law of three. not only because of a belief that they will suffer but also because they would be going against the core of their religion.
and useing an 'evil' act against someone that has done an evil act isn't justified, you are still useing an evil act.
protection spells are far better to use to guard against anyone that seeks to do you ill will, properly cast they protect without doing harm.

this begs the question what happens if someone does something terrible against a wiccan, e.g. seriously harm a friend or a member of a family.
i suppose theres something to be said for having lost so much that theres nothing left to loose by cursing someone, even in those circumstances its a serious thing to even consider.

i believe magic works, treat it with respect and if you don't believe in it my advice is not to test it stay out of its way.


blessings

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[cerridwen]

lol black is the new white :cool:

[HappyHaHaGirl]

I thought black was the new black??? It changes every week...

[DarkLunacy]

Me and my friend did the Satanic Destruction Ritual to get revenge on this bastard but I botched it and he only broke his arm...

[Samhain]

lol black is the new white :cool:

Did you like that C??

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[Samhain]

Ive found this old thread of mine, one of the first I have ever posted on hipforums!
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[Anima_Mercury]

Ive found this old thread of mine, one of the first I have ever posted on hipforums!
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Is there any particular reason you'd like to discuss about it?

I personally think it's true, it's all about "energies".

And it's wrong and it should be banned :p hehehe :)


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[WayfaringStranger]

black magic has always been the new white. should be no suprise there. anytime you try to impose your own will on the world or people, no matter how good your intentions, it is black, because it violates the laws of free will.

[Anima_Mercury]

black magic has always been the new white. should be no suprise there. anytime you try to impose your own will on the world or people, no matter how good your intentions, it is black, because it violates the laws of free will.I know, it's a game i play with Sam!!! ;)

Anyway, doing black magic with a spell or sthg it will eventually come triplicated to you in this life or in the next...

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[Samhain]

yeah your both right (in my opinon) doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss it though!
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[Anima_Mercury]

yeah your both right (in my opinon) doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss it though!
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Ok, so... what's your opinion on black magic? What are the benefits (if there is any)?


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[Samhain]

Ok, so... what's your opinion on black magic? What are the benefits (if there is any)?


? Love ?
I am against black magick, when I have more time I will post some more!
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[Anima_Mercury]

I am against black magick, when I have more time I will post some more!
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OK!!! :)


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[mariecstasy]

well i would have to say that i belive, after responding to the quiz already and also after reflecting on some unkind things i said about someone else last nigh(god forgive me) that we all perform a bit of black magick with our thoughts.
our thoughts are prayers and we are always praying. so when we say we don't like someone or that we wish something bad would happen to someone or that we hate someone, or whatever the moment's reaction brings us to say....we have performed a form of black magic.
i don't believe that we need to mix elements and say a given set of words to get the energy out there....our thoughts are enough.

may we all learn to be love, even to our enemies or to those that have wronged us. after saying such a thing, i shall make amends with the one that i said something negative about:D

[Anima_Mercury]

our thoughts are prayers and we are always praying. so when we say we don't like someone or that we wish something bad would happen to someone or that we hate someone, or whatever the moment's reaction brings us to say....we have performed a form of black magic.Well said there Marie! Those kind of thoughts are black. The reaction is instant, impulsively and there is almost no way to avoid thinking wrongly about a particular person when we feel hurt or upset.
However, no matter what he/she has done to us, we should know that there will be a moment in which that person that hurt us will be touched with the same (or worse) action he/she performed towards us. And so there is the balance or compensation. A universal justice =)

i don't believe that we need to mix elements and say a given set of words to get the energy out there....our thoughts are enough.Most true http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif but it can get worse if there are other elements that join that thought...and there is much use of that too (though we don't commonly see it there are a lot of people who like to play with these things)

may we all learn to be love, even to our enemies or to those that have wronged us.Oh, yes... What a lovely and wise thought!!! =) May we all learn to be love including to our enemies (dificult but not impossible).

after saying such a thing, i shall make amends with the one that i said something negative abouthttp://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gifI guess that by thinking that way and putting it in action, you're already reversing your previous thought =)

♥ Still loving you ♥

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[AshtonsMom]

what do you think about curses and black magick.
would you ever curse anyone, have you ever dabbled in the black arts, hang on why is it an art if its black, but a craft if its white?
anyhow dare you be honest post here!

blessing
Sman, it's just not cool to dabble in that stuff. Talk about your case of bad karma...i would be afraid to personally. I say leave the black arts alone...

[Anima_Mercury]

man, it's just not cool to dabble in that stuff. Talk about your case of bad karma...i would be afraid to personally. I say leave the black arts alone...
Well said there! Perhaps not bad karma (karma is not bad) it's about actions in the present that will be taken into account in this life and in the next one and God knows how many will take to "repair" or "balance" the damage.


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[Samhain]

well i would have to say that i belive, after responding to the quiz already and also after reflecting on some unkind things i said about someone else last nigh(god forgive me) that we all perform a bit of black magick with our thoughts.
our thoughts are prayers and we are always praying. so when we say we don't like someone or that we wish something bad would happen to someone or that we hate someone, or whatever the moment's reaction brings us to say....we have performed a form of black magic.
i don't believe that we need to mix elements and say a given set of words to get the energy out there....our thoughts are enough.

may we all learn to be love, even to our enemies or to those that have wronged us. after saying such a thing, i shall make amends with the one that i said something negative about:D
I believe its all about intention, most of us have bad thought sand feelings towards others, however it can only really harm them if we put the intention into doing it. we know ourselves if its just reactional or if we really mean it.
having said that having consently nasty thoughts can harm ourselves

man, it's just not cool to dabble in that stuff. Talk about your case of bad karma...i would be afraid to personally. I say leave the black arts alone...
Well i would like to point out that this is one of the first threads I have ever made in the hip forums, I found it and thought I would be bring it here out of interest.
This is a discussion thread not ment to be an encouragement to try out the 'black arts' in any way.

Anima_Mercury
In magick all magick is black if done without asking the persons permission, or to try and get power over someone, by this one can clearly see how a 'healing' spell could actually be black.
most magick users that strive to practice only good magick tend to feel that they practice a shade of 'grey' not on purpose its just acknowledging that its
difficult to practice pure good magick all the time.

any witch or pagan worth their salt would never knowingly practice black magick, it goes against everything he craft stands for
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[Samhain]

did anyone know that black magick really discribes all magick, and isn't really a judgement on intention, the magick arts have always been known to be 'hidden'
and black simply means hidden, hence the 'black arts' its only fairly recently it has been associated with harmful magick
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[Anima_Mercury]

Black is also the void in the Unirverse, the original matter in the space.

Black is a colour which "doesn't exist"; in the visible spectrum of the light or in the colour wheel there is no black colour, take a look at the rainbow http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
So black it's not an original colour (so to speak), there must be a mix of them to "form" black.

Black (also red and white) is very important in Alchemy, the transformation/transmutation of silver (white) and golden (red). These colours were used by templars as well.

The very word "alchemy" was taken from the Egyptian Kemet or Al Kham, which means "to be black".
Middle English-alkamie
Old French-alqueme
Medieval Latin-alchymia
Arabic-al-kimia
Greek-Khemeia

It refers the preparation of the Stone (Elixir is the combination of white and red, sort of an amber colour) by the Egyptians. "Khem" alludes to the black soil of the Nile delta. Esoterically the word refers to the primordial or First Matter (the Khem). Alchemy is the Great Work of nature that perfects this chaotic matter, whether it be expressed as the metals, the cosmos, or the very substance of our souls.


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[Samhain]

I found this painting called 'black magick' I think its rather beautiful
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http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/black_magic.jpg

[Anima_Mercury]

I found this painting called 'black magick' I think its rather beautiful
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http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/black_magic.jpg
Ok, it's not that spooky but since I once dreamt about one of those cartujos (?) outfit and saw what it did... never ever liked it, it's like the personified Evil in Passion of the Christ (pay attention to the name, it's The Christ and not Jesus Christ!). That was a very good personification of evil... the best I've seen!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Passion_of_Christ

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[Anima_Mercury]

YOU

[Anima_Mercury]

think that? Ignorance is no magic... Love is magic :)


AMOR VINCIT OMNIA


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[Samhain]

The only magic... is ignorance... and I'd imagine that's inherantly black...
and chocolates but they aren't always black
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[Anima_Mercury]

and chocolates but they aren't always black
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bahahaha http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/sign/sign0142.gif



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[Samhain]

Love isn't magic either... it's simply civilised societies responce to our biological need to reproduce... that a compolation of chemicals coursing through our heads that cause a certain physiological responces in our bodies...
your girlfriend must really biologically need you Insane.
your in one of your cynic moods again aren't you?
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[Anima_Mercury]

me nkanta q sxbas lo q 3,14-enso :p


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[mynameiskc]

i'm trying to not even THINK badly about people. i'm certainly not going to go out of my way to create a whole ceremony hoping that someone gets hurt. that doesn't seem quite right to me.

[mynameiskc]

although it never fails: if dave makes me mad he chokes or trips on something. it's a bit of a joke around here because it happens every single time. come to think upon it, when i'm mad at someone, they end up miserable somehow. maybe i just look for it. and every time i move to a new place, they have a drought. rather, they have VERY sunny weather. as soon as i leave, it starts raining. we're a bit superstitious about that, too. our friends joke that if you're going to have an outdoor wedding, i'd better be there. i missed my best friend's because i was pregnant. i was very sad. it fucking snowed to beat all.

[Samhain]

although it never fails: if dave makes me mad he chokes or trips on something. it's a bit of a joke around here because it happens every single time. come to think upon it, when i'm mad at someone, they end up miserable somehow. maybe i just look for it. and every time i move to a new place, they have a drought. rather, they have VERY sunny weather. as soon as i leave, it starts raining. we're a bit superstitious about that, too. our friends joke that if you're going to have an outdoor wedding, i'd better be there. i missed my best friend's because i was pregnant. i was very sad. it fucking snowed to beat all.remind me never to upset you!
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[mynameiskc]

yeah. i must confess, i've become very superstitious about it. i try not to think badly of anyone. bad things happen to people. whether or not it has anything to do with me, i still try to send only the good, happy thoughts. i'm hedging my bets.

[erzebet1961]

I have some friends who are into the darker arts, and I know what they do , I dont fear THEM , but I fear the negetive energies they bring back on themselves, which is why I wont do the things they do. And yes, Im being vague, because there are some things that you dont go into detail about.

[booshnoogs]

Voodoo Practitioner Tries to Jinx Bush
Nov 16 10:44 AM US/Eastern http://img.breitbart.com/images/ap.gif

A renowned black magic practitioner performed a voodoo ritual Thursday to jinx President George W. Bush and his entourage while he was on a brief visit to Indonesia. Ki Gendeng Pamungkas slit the throat of a goat, a small snake and stabbed a black crow in the chest, stirred their blood with spice and broccoli before drank the "potion" and smeared some on his face.

"I don't hate Americans, but I don't like Bush," said Pamungkas, who believed the ritual would succeed as, "the devil is with me today."

He said the jinx would sent spirits to posses Secret Service personnel guarding Bush and left them in a trance, leading them into falsely thinking the President was under attack, thus eventually causing chaos in Bogor Presidential Palace, where the American leader was scheduled to meet President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono on Monday.

Indonesia the world's most populous Muslim country, however many still practicing animist rituals, including black magic, that predate Islam's arrival in the archipelago.

"I am doing voodoo, because other ritual would not work," he told reporters after he conducted the gory ritual about 1 kilometers from the palace.

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[mynameiskc]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....oh shit!

[Samhain]

however I would have thought that discussing it is kinda giving the game away
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[Weaveworld]

If it were to work at all it would likely backfire....Maybe that's just the wine talking, but it was my first thought. :leaving:

[Samhain]

If it were to work at all it would likely backfire....Maybe that's just the wine talking, but it was my first thought. :leaving:
is true.............. but its good he's getting his veg in
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[Weaveworld]

Yeah, broccoli rules..I'd opt for different dressing though.

[Samhain]

Yeah, broccoli rules..I'd opt for different dressing though.
I know, he's so going to get heart burn later
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[Weaveworld]

Hahahahaha! At least!

[mynameiskc]

well, i think the addition of the brocolli was very innovative of him and deserves respect. it's hard to get enough fiber in your diet these days.

[Samhain]

well, i think the addition of the brocolli was very innovative of him and deserves respect. it's hard to get enough fiber in your diet these days.
well i've been saying that for the past few posts, we're all very relieved he got one of his 5 in whilest cursing George
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[mynameiskc]

i can't be bothered to read your english lingo!! ;)

[Samhain]

i can't be bothered to read your english lingo!! ;)
one of his five as in five fruit and veg!
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[Samhain]

posts in this forum, its a worry :leaving:
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[Samhain]

this has tottally been missed
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[a_rabid_pineapple]

You worry too much! Don't be afraid by the time this forum reaches the number of posts needed to cause an apocalypse, we'll all be dead! ...What really boggles me is how everyone will be continue to post after they're dead. o_o

[warmhandedcanadian]

it is weird, but all the spammers are here.... so yeah.

And we have KC two steps behind me pointing out my spelling mistakes .....so that has to add another few thousand with that alone! ;)

[Samhain]

it is weird, but all the spammers are here.... so yeah.

And we have KC two steps behind me pointing out my spelling mistakes .....so that has to add another few thousand with that alone! ;)
and you two steps behind me pointing out mine
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[warmhandedcanadian]

and you two steps behind me pointing out mine
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it's like a frickin train!

[Samhain]

I wonder where we'll all be should this forum hit 66,666 posts, freaky thought
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