Sam?????

[teepi]

OH WHERE OH WHERE could she be?????......miss you.
teepi

[~Sam~]

Hey Ya, Teepi...

I be here, I guess. This surgery has probably been the most painful and drawnout I've ever experienced. But I had to have it done. With the teeth I had in my mouth, as badly made as they were, I couldn't eat anymore. Was losing weight and feeling punky like.

I had 5 titanium posts put in to my lower jaw on Dec. 1st to hold some fancy-schmancy teeth the Doc is makin' and gonna put in in about 6 months when I'm healed. Was supposed to have 6 posts put in to my upper palate but my bone structure was like soap bubbles so he couldn't do that.

Instead, I had mucho bone grafting done up there. It's changed my facial structure for the better, and I guess it'll be worth it in the long run. I had some sinus damage during the process and am still blowing out chunks of bloody gunk... Yuk!. Did I mention the liquid diet? Yup, liquid. Bet you didn't know you could blenderize all kinds of real food... pork chops were great, but dry.

Tomorrow I go to see the Doc again to have the stitches removed... Great Fun. I put the new temporary dentures in my mouth yesterday so I'm not a toothless ole hag... but the bottoms were driving me nuts so I took them out and I'm busy playing with all the stitches in my mouth now (top and bottom). Hurts like a mother bastard, yeah it does.

Precious is doing fine. Her wound is healing nicely and I'm not changing bandages so often now. Kenny is taking the wheelbarrow full of manure I shovel out to the pile for me everyday cause I injured my wrist in a fall the Friday after turkey day. Can't eat, can't smoke, couldn't write... but it's gettin' better day-by-day.

Turkey day was a bust. I didn't eat but a bowl of soup (blenderized) and a half pint of Southern Comfort that day, and Kenny didn't feel up to cooking for hisself... so the turkey sat in the fridge until this past Saturday. I took it out to the woods and the Black Vultures had a thanksgiving dinner.

I didn't think that I was gonna come back here anymore. I was pissy and left some mighty nasty messages for a couple of the girls. Not that I'm afraid or sorry for what I said... just got fed up with the La La Land BS and thought to tell them what I thought before I left for good.

Now see... I came in today cause it's rainin' and miserable outside... read your message and just had to come back. Damn. Don't ya just love it when a plan crumbles into dust?

Well, I gotta go shovel horse shit... You take care.

Sam

Got My Horse. Got My Dog. Don't Need No Cowboy.

[poor_old_dad]

Hi Sam,

Teepi wasn't the only one worried / wondering. In another of those strange coinidences, I am going through a similar tooth thing. I should say toothless, as at this minute I haven't got one tooth in my head. In my case damned heredity screwed me. Long family history etc. Amen on liquid diet. Mac & cheese too. Lucky for me some good liquid comes from Kentucky. But I'm hanging with it, hope you do too. My folks & all 4 grandparents were much better off with the "store bought" teeth.

Take care,
Peace, your friend,
poor_old_dad

[teepi]

I was getting ready to call..email..snail mail...send out the calvary...something.
{{{{{SAMMY}}}}} I didn't know you were going through so much.
But I am glad to see you back and you must know that I value our friendship.
I'm pullin for ya.

Soup and southern comfort...sounds like a song.

Soup and Southern comfort, danged teeth in my head.
Soup and Southern Comfort, gonna put me right to bed.
Went all day bein' pissy, old mans in a huff.
He had to go out in the barn and shovel all the stinky stuff.
Soup and Southern Comfort gonna see me thru this day.
Tommorow I'll take some pain pills, better stay the hell outta my way.....

Yeah seems I have worms, but hell, I thought I probably did anyway, been reading up on my own about detoxing some crap floating around in the tract..
Larry willbe home for good soon and we are both gonna straighten out the old pipes and try to fly a straighter line (diet wise, didn't think I could mean anything else did you???)

I can't even talk about my teeth, they look okay on the surface butt here is evil lurking below, I've been reading up on that too and they have found out some cool things about co-q10 I will read more.
I'll put it this way...I call a new dentist to make an appointment...ring ring.."Hello Dr.Sadists office, may I help you?"
"Yes...do you have gas??."
"Oh we're a PAINLESS dentists office, there's no need for gas here."
"Click."

Love ya,
let me know if there's anything I can do for you.(I actually mean that!!)
teepi

[Moving_cloud]

((( Sam )))

Here is a Hug for you girl, and Much Love

Remember we can Fly - - -

[Fractual_]

hey, me too with the tooth thing, and my mom just a couple days ago... mine started acting up real bad right after she went and got hers done, i knew i had a couple cavities for a while but now i can feel it in my jaw and think i will be getting my first root canal, how exciting... im scared shitless to be honest, i know it will be one of the lesser difficulties in life and really small in the big scheme, and i will probably(hopefully) look back and have a good laugh about it.... but it seems so important and down right terrifying to me right now...

[~Sam~]

Hi Fractual! I don't think you'll be laughing about a root canal Anytime soon! I've had several done in my time... other than the Novocain, I didn't feel a thing. But the pre-procedure jitters... well, that's a thingee of another color. I put myself through hell before I went in at 7:45 in the morning to have all this done to myself... and you know what? I ain't laughin' yet either.

Yesterday, instead of letting fear of discomfort in my mouth overwhelm me, I just told myself that I'd take deep breaths, relax while the stitches where being removed, and it would soom be over. The Doc removed all the lower stitches and only four of the upper, so next week it'll be over for me. I hope it's soon over for you also. Love to you.


Thank You, Moving Cloud! Hugs right back at'cha... Love, Sam


Teepi, you can put the sled dogs back on their lines and feed them... yeah, I'm back. With friends like you and Dad and Fractual, et alia; ... how can I stay away?

Gods, but I nearly hurt myself laughing at the words to the Soup and Southern Comfort song... did you just make that up just off a the top of yer noggin'? I gotta call Kenny and have him go in and read it. Honestly... laugh my fuckin' ass off, choke on cigarette smoke, spit coffe all over myself.

A week before surgery, they gave me sleeping pills. Took them an hour before the procedure was supposed to begin on the 1st, and when I sat on the surgical couch I went promptly to sleep. Only thing is, I woke up in the middle of the operation to hear some awesome "crunching and munching" sounds going on in my face. I talked to the Doc and his assistant for some time before they gave me more medication and a test to see if I would remember any of what was said... (I passed the test). Before I fell back to sleep for a while, the novocain wore off and I had to get more... lots O' fun. Novocain only lasts about 20 minutes in my system for some reason... same for all the pain med drugs. I usually end up getting 5 times the normal dosage and it takes me weeks to get over the after effects. That was my biggest fear in all of this nonsense... what the medications would leave me to deal with for days and days.

Hey! About your worms. Did you get a fecal sample done for 'ova and parasites' to see if you truly do have intestinal parasites, or is this some kinda guess work done purely on symptomology? Personally, I won't even treat my horses empirically for worms without lab work to confirm a diagnosis. I want to know exactly what it is I'm medicating for, so that I'm not putting unnecessary chemicals into my critters bodies... (or mine... antihelminthics are some powerful poisons that don't just poison the parasites). And, if you know what you're treating for, you can use the correct meds, the correct dosage for the parasitic load, and know you're doing the correct thing at the right time. It's not that I'm against Alternative Medicine... I use it when I have a correct diagnosis and treatment plan. But I also respect the Medical Profession. If you find the right Doc to work with, one who listens and is not afraid to try alternative therapy, you have the best of both worlds... And this is how it should be. Science can be a miracle too, ya know.

Boy! Am I happy for you that Larry is ready to spend all winter with ya! I hope that it's a very long winter, and that you two get some stuff accomplished and some lovin' done. (Wish that Ken could take some time off... sigh.)

I seem to be OK with doing things this week, but thanks for your kind offer... unless you want to come out and help me straighten up the attic. I can milk the goats, shovel shit into a wheelbarrow using my injured wrist as a balance and I can carry a bucket, but that's about it. It seems to be getting better, then I overuse it and have to baby it again. This getting old and stupid sure do suck the big one. Love Ya, Girl!


Dad... Store Bought Teeth and Kentucky Whiskey... can't be beat. I lost my upper teeth in a fight when I was in my early twenties. The lower ones went when I was so ill for all those years and barfing 18 times a day. One day, I was eating pizza. Then I heard; "Plink-Plank-Plunk" and looked down at the plate and there was my tooth. Looked like a hillbilly for a day or two... what a hoot.

It's the same with me too... parents and all four grandparents toothless... an grinnin'. But you should see my new Store Bought Choppers... absolutely gorgeous! Kenny said that if anyone told him they weren't my natural teeth he wouldn't believe them. They really do look good. Much better than my real ones (I had big, bucked teeth). And the Doc adjusted both uppers and lowers yesterday so I can hardly tell I have anything in my mouth... a good thing. They chew food like Real teeth too! The teeth I'm retiring to a drawer were like trying to chew food with the bottoms of smooth soda bottles... in other words, I couldn't chew food. Now I can, or will be able to when my mouth heals more and is less tender (especially on the top where he did the bone grafting), and I'm a Very happy camper today.

Well, the digital clock down in the righ-hand corner tells me that it's time to go out to the barn again. Time to put the horses out in the pasture and pull some teats. Kenny gave them grain this morning when he went out to his car... now it's my turn.

Oh! Last night, when I got back from the dentist's office at 6:30 PM, Kenny arrived home right behind me. But, I had to go in and pee, change my boots and put on a jacket before I took care of the four leggers. Said to Ken; "tonight I'm just going to open the gate and let the horses run to barn on their own. There's just too much mud out there for me to go in the pasture gate, put a halter on them and lead them up when it's dark." Horses get all weirded out when it gets dark on them and they're not in their proper places for the evening.

So I did just that... but first I put some grain in the feeders in their stalls and asked Ken if he was ready for 'this fiasco'. When I opened the gate I told Kenny to hold the dog... he did... momentarily. Then all hell broke loose. Raven headed towards the barn at a full tilt gallop, but Precious passed him on the hill with Cody close on her heels. She's developing some funny quirks lately, and pulling jokes on me is one of them. As they hit the road, Precious headed up Sam's Hill Road with Raven right behind her, a car came around the turn. Boy, I bet he never counted on seeing two big horses loose and charging his car!

Anyhow... I called them; "Come On, Come On", but they were headed for the green grass growing on the hill and were having none of it. So, I went into the barn, grabbed a lead rope, put some grain in a bucket and walked up the hill after them. When I shook the grain bucket I got Precious' full attention and she trotted right up to me. I put the lead rope around her neck and we walked back to the barn together... Raven bringing up the rear. Precious went right into her stall, but Raven was still blowing and snorting outside the barn door until I brough the bucket out to him... then he got all lovey-dovey and walked his big, black bee-hind down the aisle in front of me and into his stall too.

What a trip these critters are. No joke, I love 'em to pieces.

Today I'm taking Ylsa and Allyson (my eigth month old doelings) over to the friend from whom I adopted Precious. Then I gotta pick up my antibiotic Rx... and another pint of Southern Comfort. Probably spend a good deal of the day helping my friend set up a place for the Doelings to live in. I think that she'll keep them loose and running all over her place if'n I know her... but she'll give my babies a good home. Even if they do end up jumping on every car that comes up her drive... gotta laugh.

OK... I'm gonna call up another page of the Forums, copy what I've written so I doesn't lose it, paste it on that page and hope that I can post this reply....

See You Guys Later.......

Love Ya's All,
Sam

[poor_old_dad]

Hi Sam,

I actually had a dream last night that you, teepi, me and I guess a few others were sitting around somewhere. You were showing off how you could now give folks a big grin. You were happy. We were all happy. Maybe we were in Brazil, HMmmmm ......

That reminds me, who do we know that can interpret the meaning behind a vision quest?

Peace, your friend,
poor_(tired)old_dad

[teepi]

WOW. Dad I know I'd be grinnin big if that vision could be our reality...

[~Sam~]

Well, Dad. I've done a few vision and shamanic quests in the distant and not-so-distant past... but I feel that the questor is best at the interpretation of what has been shown.

But if'n you want to kick it around (if you've just done one)... please feel free to do so. Hell, we can fuck it up as well as you can.

It was Brazil... and I was grinnin'... I'm a grinnin' now. All god's chilluns is a grinnin'....

http://www.etravelphotos.com/brazil/photos/2003la-168-18s-w.jpg

[poor_old_dad]

In the vision I was myself and each of my two sons and my father all at the same time. More later ...

Here's something I just came across, you sweet ladies my get a kick from:

GUINNESS It turns out that a pint of the black stuff can help prevent against high cholesterol levels, cancer and Alzheimer's disease. The hops used in making Guinness contain a potent anti- oxidant - xanthohumol - which is 6 times more effective than theantioxidants found in fruit.

MARTINI It has been scientifically proven that a gin martini can help fight wrinkles. A martini is high in anti-oxidants which eliminate destructive molecules which cause damage to your body and help speed up the ageing process in skin. The beneficialeffects of a martini are increased when shaken, not stirred.

RED WINE Evidence suggests that the regular consumption of red wine helps reduce the risk of heart disease by a considerable 50 per cent. However, moderation is the key, so don't get too excited - 1 glass a day for women and 2 for men should be just enough to help keep your heart healthy.

BEER Looks like it's not just milk that can help women fight against osteoporosis, a swig or two of beer a day can reduce the risk of suffering from the brittle-bone disease. Beer contains silicon, which can also be found in lager and bitter and helps to toughen up bones.

WHITE WINE As well as being linked with the prevention of coronary heart disease and scientists new attempts to boost this health benefit by fortifying white wine with lots of anti-oxidants, experts have found that white wine contains tyrosol - ananti- oxidant which helps prevent inflammation of the joints.

CIDER Cider, when drunk in moderation, could help to prevent arthritis taking its toll. Trials have shown the high levels of anti- oxidants in cider and it is the same amount that is in a glass of red wine.

RUM There are no proven benefits to be had by knocking back the Bacardi, but a glass or two won't do any harm. In fact, it has been suggested that rum can indirectly benefit your health as it relaxes you and could help you to unwind after a stressful day.

So there you go, have a pint of the Guiness and a martini and a glass of Red wine and a glass of White wine and a glass or two of Cider and a swig or two of beer and a glass or two Bacardi RUM every day.

Peace, your friend,
poor_old_dad

[teepi]

HA just goes to show...

Beer is proof God loves us.-Ben Franklin-

Larry just got us 2 new 6 gallon carboys(we used to have plastic)
And 2 new 6 gallon buckets...we'll be brewing our 3-11 stout and some wine soon.

I drink wine every night before bed, usually a small glass of burgundy, this was suggested by my doctor when I was pregnant with Sarah 28 years ago, didn't want to take any pills but could not sleep.
It did the trick then and is still doing it.
And now it benifits my health...like I've always said...the things we need are all around us.
Thanks POD.
teepi

[Southernman]

Oh, what a coincidence, Sam. I'm sufferering at the moment on dental treatment too. I'll tell you something, sister, I think you'll like to hear it. Problem here at Germany is, that this, what they offer to you by loss of teeth is only cheap plastic, no titanium post hold fancy-schmancy teeth resolutions are available here, without being a millionaire. I'm going to Hungary next spring or summer, where they offer such resolutions about 70% cheaper than here and Hungary is a member in the European Community in the meantime, what means, the qualitity of treatment and the guarantees are minimum the same or even better like here. At the moment I'm thinking about putting steak, potatoes and vegeatables all together in a mixer and adding beer or wine as long, until I can enjoy it with a straw.
http://www.zahnarzt-planet.de/zahnarztplanet/Bilder/map.gif
The red dots are dental clinics, specialised for treating of people from Austria, Germany and Suisse.

Hold on, Sam, time is on our side.

[~Sam~]

Geezie-Peezie, Southernman! You Too? I've never seen such a thing. There's you, Teepi, Shameless, Moving_cloud, Fractual, Dad, me... ok, who else?

I'll tell you something too... we had to dip into our retirement fund to have this done. That's what freaked me out more than anything. But at least we'll be paying ourselves back on the loan we made to ourselves. I wouldn't have made the decision on cosmetic reasons alone, but after what I suffered through from July, 2003 to this Dec 1st, I found that I didn't have any options but to have implants put in. My lower jaw is malformed and distorted and won't hold a regular denture in place no way, no how. If I only have my lower jaw done, the psi of chewing activity and the rigidity of the posts would cave in my upper palate in, as thin and hollow as it is, eventually...

Last July, I had two implants placed by my old dentist. It was a nightmare from the get go. The dentist and his school-work-release high school girl assistant were fighting with eachother over me... the novocain and stronger meds wouldn't hold for long... it was the end of the day on a Fri. and everyone wanted to be going home, not working on me... and the dentist put the posts into my jaw crooked. He put cadaver bone into my jaw as bonegraft material, and when I went back to have the lower dentures adjusted two days after surgery, he took the stitches out and put the lowers back in my mouth. When I took them out after I got home I found that the incision had opened completely and the jaw bone lay totally exposed... talk about freaking out. Ken thought I ought to go back and have him suture the site again, but I refused.

I took little sips of southern comfort, and made a mouthwash of fresh white sage leaves and rinsed every hour. Eventually my gums healed over the bone, but the teeth went downhill in my mouth, didn't meet my upper teeth, and rocked all over my mouth when I talked or chewed. I felt like I had a Huge wad of gum in my mouth that I needed to spit out.

But the worse part was...

When I was still in HS, my mom had lower dentures made. I used to sit across the kitchen table from her in the mornings, and as we drank our coffee I looked at her dentures that sloped downhill and thought to myself; "God, but I hope I never look like that!"

And when I got out of the dentist's chair and went to the mirror to look at myself... what do you think I saw? The same goddamned sloping lower teeth. The guy never even did a horizontal plane when he did the mold. Then, the tops of the posts went through the tops of my lower dentures! ... they made circular flaps that were still attached to the front of the plate, and when I bit down the flaps would go up and pinch my tongue when I released. I called to go and have them fixed and they told me the soonest appointment would be in two weeks! WTF !!! So, I went to the store and bought myself some denture fix and fixed the goddamned things my own damned self.

So, it's taken me 16 months of living with totally screwie teeth to get to where I am now. Not only that, but I had to get over my anger at professional incompetance and I had to try to gather something like trust in others to make contact with the man who just did all this work in me mouth.

But never mind me....

I know that my mom spoke German as well as Hungarian, Italian, Lithuanian and English... she taught my grandfather english so that he could take his citizen exam.... But, do you speak Hungarian? I ask because you are going to a clinic there... And when and if you do get to have this work done, I'm sending advanced good vibes to speed along your progress... >>>If I have your permission to do that.<<< (So many times we forget to ask the person we're thinking about if it's alright to go invading their personal space by way of distant healing or non-local energy healing.)

Hey! Not that I'm offering advice, just musing about mixing all that food together... I found that putting food in the blender one at a time and keeping the different foods separate adds to your dinning pleasure... if you can call baby food a pleasure. But if you season the food to taste, and use your sense of smell as you close your eyes to taste that spoonful... it comes damned close.

I wish that I had kept all of my real teeth as they came out... could'a had a real nice necklace by now.

See Ya All Later....

Sam

"Time, time, time... Is on our side. Yes, it is."

[Fractual_]

I'm sending advanced good vibes to speed along your progress... >>>If I have your permission to do that.<<< (So many times we forget to ask the person we're thinking about if it's alright to go invading their personal space by way of distant healing or non-local energy healing.)

you guys are more than permitted to send any good energy you have my way monday at around 12:30 pm ...the whole thing is gonna gimme the heeby jeebies man, why come nothin good in life comes easy... well not nothing good, but nothing significantly good...

[~Sam~]

You got it, Fractual! I'm starting now, if'n you don't mind. So let's get busy and do something, anything but worry about Monday. Monday will come, and then Monday will go. This will all be over then and you can take some time to shake off the stress chemicals and relax.

Did you know that shaking is what horses, goats and dogs do to get rid of the stressors they've just been exposed to? I've tried shaking... it works. But then you have to occupy your mind with other things so it doesn't come back to get you again.

Most of the time we're our own worst enemies... especially where pre-procedure stress is concerned. And yes, I too wish there were an easier way to get the important things accomplished... but there ain't.

If it looks too good, or too easy, to be true... it is. But I'll be with ya Buddy. I'll whisper in your ear; "Take a deep breath... ok, now let it out slooooooowly."

Love Ya,
Sam

[Southernman]

Oh Sam, what a trouble, but it seems, that you reached the point, where all can become only better from now on. My friends need no special permissions for sending good vibes, you don't have to ask every time for that. No, I don't speak hungarian, but the ppl at the clinics speak mostly german and even all the documents are allready translated. I've them allready contacted, they say, it would need to come 2 times, 1st one week for diagnosis and the posts-surgery, than going home with a 'provisorium' and depending of the healing and need of reconstruction of jawbones or not, coming back 6- 8 month later for the final new teeth. Estimated costs of 8.000$ at Hungary, at Germany for the same resolution over 24.000$. This with the mixer was a joke, I've allready this cheap teeth without posts and I remember well, you know, Adrian is just 5 yrs, this baby food isn't so bad and here in Germnay mostly biological food.
Yes, shaking works perfect for me too, to occupy the mind with other things, especial by listening Hardrock, we here call it in newgerman headbanging. ;)
Fractual, 12:30pm should be here at Germany 6:30pm. I'll try to send vibes on monday over the ocean too.

[~Sam~]

No Bout'a Doubt It... should've gone to Hungary for teeth. Wouldn't have had to mortgage my mouth if I had, but how about the plane ticket?

Well there, you old german headbanger... I wonder if I put pizza in the blender will it turn out so I can eat it. I'm dyin' for pizza with mushrooms and italian sausage... and some BEERS.

Fractual should be just about done with his hadventure. I hope all went well with you, Buddy. Now sit back and take it easy for a bit. Then come back and tell us all about what you had done.

Love To All,
Sam

Believing I had supernatural powers, I slammed into a Brick wall.
~ Paul Simon

[Fractual_]

Believing I had supernatural powers, I slammed into a Brick wall.
~ Paul Simonwell turns out the pain i was feeling in my jaw were my wisdom teeth, and not the cavity spreading, but they didnt even look at my teeth today really so the root canal is still a possibility for my next appointment... i also have to go get surgey and get all doped up and bring some home with me toohttp://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/pimp.gif could always use some of that healing energy though...

that paul simon, i tell ya... i can really relate with that quote believe it or not, and read a passage in ram dass's book 'the journey of awakening' just the other night who discusses about the same thing where people who begin to meditate and just get into their spirit, discover these new possibilities like telepathy and things of that sort, and often get trapped in these because they are so appealing, and he advises people to not really pay any mind to them, and just make a note of it and let go.... but of course nobody tells you the important stuff, or told me anyway, or i wouldnt listen to it or look for it i guess, and it sordove ate into my thoughts and being you could say, and got me making some bad choices which led to other bad choices, and so on...

also read a passage about everyone having thier own unique predicament here on this earth, that stretches back over many lifetimes and to ever judge another being or see them as anything less than equal is to forget the uniqueness of your own journey and the infinite diversity of this world, or to compare your journey with another journey does not do you any good.. that section made a ton of sense and after i read it i felt like i had this huge weight lifted off of me and felt really light and happy. but not too much after i got back into that really judgemental model of conciousness, that sordove primative predator reptillian kindof thing that is really just durn right shallow, and then i realize the work i have cut out for me, to completley redesign this thing thats been being made on this same model for so many years now, and i have such a long way to go on my journey and i see so many who are furthur than me seemingly, and it just brings about a lot of inner demons and grumbles. it is like i see where things go wrong in my conciousness, i get attatched to things and full of desire, but i dont see how to go about stopping these things, just a very confusing time for me.

but i am a bit doped up now as well, been a while... ran into an old friend on the way to the zoo who offered to smoke a spliff with me, didnt make it to the zoo...but i am going to go finish my buzz of in the woods and enjoy having my brain make some sense for once, thanks for listening , it is nice to have people who really hear you and be able share this stuff with people, peace everyone...

here is something i put together the other night out of 3 grateful dead songs that is representative of my life...

'When I awoke, the dire wolf, six hundred pounds of sin
Was grinning at my window, all I said was "Come on in"

I have seen where the wolf has slept by the silver stream
I can tell by the mark he left, you were in his dream
The wolf came in, I got my cards, we sat down for a game
I cut my deck to the queen of hearts but the cards were all the same
Don't murder me, I beg of you don't murder me

Ah child of countless trees
Ah child of boundless seas
What you are, what you're meant to be
Speaks his name, though you were born to me
Born to me, Cassidy

Patience runs out on the junkie
The dark side hires another soul
Did he steal his fate or earn it
Was he force-fed, did he learn it
Whatever happened to his precious self control

Like him I'm tired of trying to heal
This tom-cat heart with which I'm blessed
Is destruction loving's twin
Must I choose to lose or win
Maybe when my turn comes I will have guessed'