Season of Mass Tree Murder

[nirgal]

Don't buy cut trees!


Eskimo Blue Day

Snow cuts loose from the frozen
Until it joins with the african sea
In moving it changes its cold and its name
The reason I come and go is the same
Animal game for me
You call it rain
But the human name
Doesn't mean shit to a tree
If you don't mind heat in your river and
Fork tongue talking from me
Swim like an eel fantastic snake
Take my love when it's free
Electric feel with me
You call it loud
But the human crowd
Doesn't mean shit to a tree
Change the strings and notes slide
Change the bridge and string shift down
Shift the notes and bride sings
Fire eating people
Rising toys of the sun
Energy dies without body warm
Icicles ruin your gun
Water my roots the natural thing
Natural spring to the sea
Sulphur springs make my body float
Like a ship made of logs from a tree
Redwoods talk to me
Say it plainly
The human name
Doesn't mean shit to a tree
Snow called water going violent
Damn the end of the stream
Too much cold in one place breaks
That's why you might know what I mean
Consider how small you are
Compared to your scream
The human dream
Doesn't mean shit to a tree

Jefferson Airplane

[Scholar_Warrior]

don't kill a tree just to decorate!!!

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Save the trees...buy synthetic!!


(We decided to go with the fake tree because it was the sound economic choice...and I am too worried that i would murder the one with the root ball)

[Scholar_Warrior]

the only time in my adult life that I was a party to the purchasing of a christmas tree it was a small tree in a pot which we later planted. that is the only way I will ever do it.


but you know that I have issues with "christmas." it was a pagan ritual that the church subsumed and re-labed with their word "christ" which means light - not the exchange of gifts, much less a profitable retail season. it should be observed for the holy event that it is, not a consumerist orgy.

(yep, here I go again this year!)

santa is satan with one letter re-positioned. consider that fact. santa and his sleigh full of toys programs people from their very first year in a body to associate the celebration of Christ with their own selfish gratification. later in life it becomes an occasion of giving, but by then the real meaning is already lost.

the meaning of Christmas is the awakening to Christ Consciousness.

so to my way of seeing it, to kill a tree for your selfish pleasure in observance of the awakening of Christ is just plain wrong! and I don't view supporting the pointless and (really) useless production of a pollutant (fake trees will end up in a land fill and puzzle archeologists five thousand years from now) as a decent way to observe such an holy event either!

sorry Kim; but that is my un-censored view on the subject. of course, unlike all our "good christian" brothers and sisters out there, I would not try to impose my views on you. I only offer them for consideration.

love

[Fractual_]

christmas origins are also related with amanita muscaria mushrooms(the mario brothers ones that make you bigger/stronger in the game), similar in their effects to magic mushrooms. they grow under the trees we cut down every year, and also explains the red and white color scheme of christmas. so whos been a good boy this year?

--oh and we have the same synthetic tree every year, mother is allergic to the real ones...

[FreakyJoeMan]

Well if we can't kill animals, an we can't kill plants, what can we kill?!?!

An hell, 'sfar as we know, plants aren't sentient, so as long as there's enuf fer next year's crop, we're basically helpin' them propogate themselves.

[Fractual_]

Well if we can't kill animals, an we can't kill plants, what can we kill?!?!
each other!

[Scholar_Warrior]

you can be selfish about this in a way, the older growth forests do much more for the environment - and therefore more for the people who live on this planet - than tree farms. your argument is, at best, very weak.


love

[FreakyJoeMan]

you can be selfish about this in a way, the older growth forests do much more for the environment - and therefore more for the people who live on this planet - than tree farms. your argument is, at best, very weak.


love
Welps, the majority of christmas trees come from tree farms, so 'snot as if old growth forrests are shrinkin because of the christmas season.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

I'm still not sure if I prefer fake ones to the real thing


Wednesday, December 01, 2004


Real or fake? That is the question I pose to all of you today. Is it a man versus woman thing? Do men prefer fake? Do women prefer real or visa versa? Do fake ones look natural? Do they feel natural? Is the money worth getting fake ones? Do fake ones ruin the mood or the atmosphere? Now, everyone, collectively get your minds out of the gutter. I’m talking about Christmas trees.

The debate going on in my home now is whether to get a real or fake Christmas tree. I have always preferred the fake trees, mainly because I have this unnatural fear of fire. That is ironic considering my wife has our house blazing with candles every night, but I love her so I put up with the indoor forest fire. My wife and her children have always made an adventure out of going out and getting a real tree. I kept my opinion to myself last year and anyone who knows me can attest that I don’t keep my opinion quiet very often. I was newly married last year so I gave in and went out and got a real tree. But they are so messy and if you don’t constantly water them they become an incredible fire hazard. That is way too much maintenance for me. I’m a person who enjoys low maintenance everything.

Low maintenance yard, low maintenance spouse, you name it. So why would I want a high maintenance fire hazard lit up in our home every night during the month of December? Why can’t a nice trip to Target to pick up a fake tree be a family outing?

Have you seen some of these fake trees lately? They’re gorgeous. They look just like a real tree. Actually, from the looks of some of these real trees on the Christmas tree lots all over town, they look better.

Then all you have to do is spray some of that pine scented spray on them and WALA, a real smelling Christmas tree without that annoying 911 call to our neighborhood fire department. Also, I’m one of these guys who doesn’t like bugs and insects.

These real trees are infested with all sorts of living creatures that you drag into your nice clean home. Next thing you know, you’re eating dinner and a black widow crawls up your leg. Merry Christmas!! I like going out to my garage, bringing down the box that I carefully taped up last year, cutting it open and setting up my nice, bug free tree.

I truly think that is what Santa had in mind when he came up with Christmas. Yep, Santa was thinking just like Dave.

Definitely a low maintenance holiday. Why do you think he has all those elves working for him and he just sits on his butt delivering gifts?

Here’s my theory. Santa Claus has an evil brother named Chuck Claus. Chuck got left out of the family business and he’s very bitter. Chuck is a very wealthy landowner all over the world.

The land he owns consists only of Christmas trees and it’s Chuck Claus who is manipulating unsuspecting people such as my wife and her children into believing that they must have a real Christmas tree. All the while, Chuck Claus is becoming more and more wealthy and between you and me,

I heard a rumor that he’s helping fund Al Qaeda with most of his real Christmas tree revenue. Luckily Santa Claus has Target, Wal-Mart and K-Mart on his side and they are helping him not only sell fake Christmas trees but also many other things we need for Christmas.

It’s time that we all get together and try and stop Chuck Claus.

If you had plans on going out and buying a real Christmas tree, stop!

Turn that truck around and drive straight to one of those stores I mentioned and buy a nice terrorist-free fake Christmas tree. Like I said, it’s only rumor and I don’t want to be one to spread rumors, but I also heard that this guy named Osama has a real Christmas tree sitting in his cave right now as we speak.

I know most of you are saying, “Dave, how could Osama find a real Christmas tree out in the middle of the desert? And since when did he start celebrating the birth of Christ?”

Let’s just say I have very reliable sources. So, no matter what you’ve heard from anyone else, let’s make it plainly clear, Dave likes fake ones!


Found this and thought it was cute:)

[nirgal]

I live on a tree farm, but we don't cut our trees, we grow them from bare root whips to landscape size up to around 20 ft or so, and transplant them. Over 100 different types live here. Some have gone on to become permanent residents, so I know them and sense there awareness. They do communicate. Trees in a forest that are attacked by pests in one place transmit this info to other trees throughout the forest and which change their chemical balance to be ready.
I hate to cut them, but sometimes it's nessisary, so it needs to be done with respect and awareness of the action.
Young trees do fix a lot more carbon than an old tree as they grow because the growth rate is faster. But when you cut one and it decomposes, all that carbon is flooded back into the enviroment, and it takes a while for the natural cycle to adjust and deal with it. Right now we are putting so much carbon into the enviorment that nature can't adjust fast enough to balance it out. Sooner or later, at this rate, we are going to reach a critical point, and we may cascade into a full greenhouse effect. Look at Venus as an extreme example. Unfortunately, we can't see the results of what we have already done because the effects have a time lag. We may have already passed that point. At least with a fake tree, the chemicals have already been produced and are just being utilized, and the tree itself can be used over many years.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Just think if advertising were used for the mass saturation of concepts like this instead of to sell smokes and clothes.

Instead of the media being evil it could become a good thing.