green is not my colour.......

[mariecstasy]

i want a new mommy or so arianna has just informed me.
ever since i turned 30, i have been breaking out constantly...i have tried all kinds of remedies and products, but nothing seems to be working. a friend gave me a burt's bees sample kit(god i love their products) for my birthday..so i decided to use the clay facial mask that came with it.
i went downstairs to get a bowl to mix it in...went into the half bath and started putting it on my face..in the meantime arianna had come downstairs to try to sneak a snack....i rounded the corner to tell her to sit at the table and she dropped her box of fruit loops and started crying....mommy i dont like that she said..
i have to keep it on for 30 minutes and arianna keeps telling me that mommy is ugly and lol....i don't like this mommy...i want a new mommy.
gosh i love her and her innocence.


....i just posted same thing in random thoughts, but those people dont appreciate it like you would. and i wanted you to see what your burt's bees present caused...lol

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Haha! That is so funny!

I remember my girls being scared to tears when they were little by my masks too!!

Glad I could be apart of that moment:)

I got a tube of saylic acid and that stuff is the poop...just a dab will do you.

[Scholar_Warrior]

you are approaching the problem from exactly the wrong direction, as most everyone does. pm me if you wanna know what to do.


love

[steffan]

when i wash my face i have to rinse it with cold water to close the pores or i break out as well

[Scholar_Warrior]

ok, yee of little faith. here's the deal - it's your digestive health that causes breakouts. you need to work on your colon not your face. a good cleansing diet will eliminate the cause of the problem rather than simply treat the symptoms.


this is the whole problem with our western approach to health; we treat from the outside in when we should work from the inside out. everything in the western health model is topsy turvy. everything is designed to eliminate symptoms, but ignores the cause of the symptoms. get clean inside and the outside will show it.

love

[mariecstasy]

well mr gil....i understand and i am working in that direction as well....i drink lots and lots of water a day..and i am actually getting ready to do the lemon 10 day fasting thing. i am stoaked but i am preparing myself for it first...so prolly in the next couple days....i was gonna do it for several reasons actually and i was hoping that it too would help clear me up...
thats for the info...if you have specific advise..post it here or pm me. i never see you on msn anymore...what you don't like me no more?

[Scholar_Warrior]

MWAH! (K)


of course I love you still Marie! I am not on msn anymore 'cause my system starts up with it offline now (for some mysterious reason) and so I only sign on if I run into someone here or am otherwise somehow invited.

the lemon juice fast is pretty strong! are you going to ease into it I hope......?

you should approach an extreme cleanse like that by gradually removing denser foods and switching to live, vegetable source foods, then vegetable/fruit juices then maybe to the lemon juice thing. but there are different ideas perhaps. just don't make any sudden changes and if you get too sick then back off the cleanse.

almonds are a good food when you need something to slow the cleanse.

Namaste'

[Scholar_Warrior]

is this the lemon juice and maple syrup thing?

[mariecstasy]

yes it is, and i have been doing an slowing down to get to it...and believe me...i am not a very willpower driven woman, i dont know if i will be able to do it. i hope so though, i have lots of toxins, chemical and emotional to burn out of this old vehicle here. so wish me luck. i will prolly need all your support.

[Scholar_Warrior]

well, you will not lack energy with that fast, but it will prolly make you feel pretty sick. remember to do some light exercise (if you're not feeling too ill) and of course drink lots 'o' water! it's good for you! :)


you make me feel guilty as I should do a fast! the best time is in the Spring, so maybe I should start mentally and emotionall preparing for one now..... but something a little less intense - I will still have to go to work and all.

good luck and good strength you!

[mariecstasy]

have you done that one?

[Scholar_Warrior]

No-o-o-o-o! I didn't get that heavy into it. my ex-wife did that one once. it's a very powerful cleansing! I don't wanna scare ya from it tho'. it is a very powerful cleanse and it will help you. my metabolism couldn't take that one very well. I did fruit and vegetable juice fasts tho'.

be careful what ever you do. if you detox too much too fast you can damage yourself. learn all about what you are doing before you begin.

it is always better to err to the side of caution.

love

[mariecstasy]

i agree. i am trying to find info on the best way to prepare and slim down to it....
i am a bit frightened and excited by it actually.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

I had a hard time with just the one day lemon thing...do you get dizzy when you don't eat?

[mariecstasy]

no i dont....but i am looking into preparing for it...i found a book on here you should read, lol, gotta find it again...and am looking for a website explaining how to prepare...
though yesterday i couldnt find grade b maple syrup...i suppose i need a more whole foods place...will look this weekend.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

I tried it just for that one day...and by the end of the day when ever I stood up I'd get really dizzy and whooshy.

Can't imagine what it would be like for a week. I wonder if there would have been a break through of sorts if more Time had been allowed.

You'll have to keep a day by day account of it for us, I am very curious:)

One of my biggest worries is that I'll be lost somewhere with nothing to eat and after the first day or so i'll be so fluffy in the head I'll do something lacking judgement and injure myslef...that's where the downward spiral begins and it's only a matter of time before the bear comes.

lol, I have alot of time to daydream (course in the daydream, I've been fighting this bear for years so in the end i win...haha)

This cleansing has the potential change the way you percieve life, I am excited for you Marie. (but like Gil said, thorough research is important for the total experience)

[oldwolf]

Used to go off for alone time when I did my fasting in the days of yore.
You do get very spacey and go through emotional cleansing as well - If you are going to be in positions of responsibility where your attention is a must then May I humbly suggest a fruit and fruit juice fast to start of to see just how you handle the whole fasting thing - you may be biting off a good bit more than you are aware of - I will guarantee you will do some cleansing and have some of the same emotional and spiritual cleansing as with the lemon and maple syrup (In my time it was honey - I did just water - but as I said I went off alone in the dessert to do it ... the lemon and sweet keeps your metabolism going so you do not start into reversing it and metabolising your own body) .
T'is your body and your trip and I respect it as such, no offense intended - just offering some personal experience.

[Scholar_Warrior]

yeah, you get whooshy because with out any food to work on, and especially with a cleansing agent like lemon juice, a lot of toxins are released into the blood stream. this is why you really, really, really must drink lots of water! and stay near a place to pee. however don't over-work your kidneys through this.


I know a very detoxifying herbal remedy that may be useful in preparing for your fast. it is made by a company named Herbs Etc. and is called "Lymphatonic." it is an excellent blood cleanser as well as a lymph cleanser! this will help to ease the fasting. you would want to use it before the fast, not during it. only use it for three days, according to my accupuncturist back in NC. and, of course drink plenty of water....

blessings

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Is that what that is...

I have a hard time making rational decisions when I'm fasting, I can't imagine having to go to work and do mommy duties as well.

Not trying to talk you out of it Marie, it just makes me tired and hungry thinking about trying to do it.:p

[mariecstasy]

no, it is all really good information...really good indeed...
perhaps it is too strong to try at the beginning, esp as oldwolf said, being in a place of responsibility...so i thank you for the fruit and fruit juice fast information...where can i find out more information on that...i have serious serious stuff i need out of me...
tears flow down my face as i type this, but i need to get to my roots. i need to clean up. big time..so please any info, i would be really grateful....
i wish i could go off by myself as i do it, but i dont have that luxury....but i think that is what i need...i need to sit and hear myself and learn myself...
do you know, i dont even know deep down inside, who i am....and i need that..

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Aww sweetie it will come. I don't think even the most enlightened sages know all there is to know about who they are deep inside. There are so many layers and they keep unfolding it seems unendingly...and it seems the sooner you get something figured out the sooner you get to realise that it was all part of an even greater illusion and then you are right back where you started.

*sigh*

...do you have a vcr or a dvd player?

[oldwolf]

Marie,

Everything changes and much of the info I had is faded, sketchy, and not up to date - and a lot of really good info continually surfaces.
Back in the days I was fasting we looked for scrubbers to clean out the intestines before fasting - recognizing the slow down of the metabolism and possible compaction and blockage resulting. Usually I started fasting going on easily digested fruit before the fast - yeah duh - i was a space case and never figured that that also was a kind of fast. Usually ended fasts on very easy to digest juices and slowly fruits and the carb diet we are all so familiar with only after the spaciness goes away and the digestive system shows itself to be functioning regularily.
Again I want to specify that my info was about a water only fast for long periods - anything over 5 days and kelation sets in along with reversing the metabolic process and autocanibalization - and as the scholar also warrior pointed out lots does happen - not all "pleasant". One of the big things that I don't often see covered is the emotional cleansing that goes on - it is major. between days 4>7 i would throw up bile - not that everyone is going to go through the same thing - they do not - it becomes a very individualistic thing - what we've been putting in is ours and what come out of a fast has to do with the ingredients you have to work with - including your beliefs.
One of the things the community we're putting together is specidically for is the time needed for discovering and re-discovering Self. It ain't together yet by a long shot - but we'd be honored to have you come up and spent some time on your own inner journey - there would be an infrastructure to take over temporarily parenting functions - by people who've "done" it - all ours are out of the nests - Moving cloud has 2 boys - I had 2 boys and Aireal had 3 girls.
I was taught, back then, to start fasting for 3 day periods doing fruits and moving to juices - to let yourself see how you are going to react personally. For cleansing -bodily - I would still suggest sprouts - but make your own; it's easy just need good seeds and a couple of glass (own preference) gallon big mouth jars (restaurants). I used cheesecloth over the top. Soak seeds overnight no more than 18 hrs - some may even drown before that time limit - rinse thoroughly and 3 x a day rinse and drain well - even 2 x may do it if your time does not allow 3.
A book you'd enjoy for laughter, incredibility, and a recognition of a lot of truth is Survival in the 21 st Century by Viktoras kulvinskas - out of prit I think - let me go get the publishers that my copy was through...Omangod Press P.O. Box 255 Westerfield Conn. 06109... copyrighted 1975 ... And if you find a place to get it, order a few copies - I'll be good for a couple more myself as I cannot find it with out in the boonies resources - he gets into sprouts big time and is one of the best sources I have ever found.

Above all lady recognize that You Are and every one is here to learn and Grow... See the beauty that is you and grow into it. I used the self guided meditation process of Seeing myself in the most grandiose far out best possible scenario of who and what I'd want to be and for myself - cloth it in seeing what I was doing and how and See that this daydream was me speaking to me and telling me what my dreams and visions were about - but god that's kind of a young person thing during the adolescence of daydreams - I never stopped till I had children in mid 30's but I always was a late bloomer - still am LOL

Blessings and warm energy to you along your Way

[mariecstasy]

thank you so much old wolf...i would love love love to do such a thing...
i just have some issues...always have and i am not gonna smear my selfpity on here, cause it is unnecesary...i am just in times where i am seeing and understanding so much about myself...and see places i need to change so much...
problem being though, that i see the places i need to change more often then i see the places i am wonderful...though i see those too...just not so often...i see them more when i have peace and solitude, but darn it....i have really forgotten what that is..
that being said...i do have such wonderful things happening and i see so much light at the end of the tunnel and in seeing places i need to let go and things i need to let go of...the light is even brighter, at the same time....i so unintentionally have so much anger and chaos inside of me that i tend to lash out...esp to those i love the most, as we all do....again on the other hand, seeing and feeling and being affected to tears by such things allows you to see yourself from the outside and how you are hurting some that you love and ultimately you....as you stand on the outside of the glass looking in to what you ultimately want to be brings sadness of what you have done but hope of where you will be. and i know i will be. i am on this journey and i will get there, its slow, and i am constantly learning yes...but i wish i could just freaking learn to stop being so hard on me and everyone else.

lol...my minde is divided in a hundred places right now so i have NO idea if any of that made sense. ......i hope so,...and if not you can fast on it;)lol!!!


edited...kim...i think i miswrote what i was trying to say before....i think what i am saying is that there are so many layers of crap that i feel need to get gone...i want to start with my health right now...and i know as that happens...some truths will come to me...and the places i wrestle with myself, well...i know, don't know how, but i know, that i will find clarity on those. that is really what i meant. but i didnt think about what i said too much..however, you are super right. we are all such complex creatures. wow...makes the learning that much more valuable.

[Scholar_Warrior]

here's what I would prolly do if I wanted to cleanse right now: use Triphala Internal Cleanser by Planetary Formulas and cut dairy (especially dairy!), meat, breads, anything refined (esp. sugar!!!) and any grains. eat a lot of vegetables and as many sprouted legumes as you want. pm or email me for more details. and I may use other herbs or minerals depending on my goal. certain soups are a method of cleansing in their own right.


one thing I strongly recommend for everyone with a body: Cellfood.!!!!! this stuff is worth more than gold!!!

in any event; my advice follows Taoists thought ~ to not stray from the center, balance. keep as close to your usual habit as possible while achieving fully your goal.

love