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Sebbi
11-25-2004, 06:40 PM
They are not.

They were cults but are not anymore.

The following is taken from "Sociology Alive" by Stephan Moore. The chapter is "Sects, cults and new religious movements"

Definitions

Churches - A church is religious organisation with paid officials, usually fully integrated into the values of society. It has regular formal acts of worship in a special place put aside for that purpose. One of the major churches generally linked to the state, and is known as the 'established church'; in England this is the Church of England.

Sects - A sect is a religious organisation which is very strict in it's beliefs and control of it's membership. Usually they believe that only they have found the truth concerning God. There are rarely any paid officials. They are generally strongly opposed to the accepted values of society.

Examples of sects which have grown into new religious movements include Jehovah's Witnesses and Scientology. They have retained many of the sect features such as a degree of secrecy and strict discipline.

Denominations - A demonination is a religious organisation which is accepted by the wider society, although it has no connection with the state. It is smaller in size than a church and the running of it is far more in the hands of the congregation than in a church. Often denominations are sects that have grown in size and have become less critical of other religious groups. The Methodists are an example of a denomination.

Cults - A cult is an extreme version of a sect, but is much smaller and can exist within a wider church. It is usually based upon one charismatic leader.

The development of churches from cults (the following is a flow diagram, which unfortunately I can'ts draw, but I'll try to represent it as best I can).

Group of people facing exclusion and deprivation--->
People searching for a more meaningful life, dissatisfied with current religion--->

--->Charismatic leader emerges--->

--->Cult or sect founded. Obediant to orders of the leader--->

--->Grows in size and complexity--->

--->Leader appoints people to help run sect--->

--->Leader died--->

--->Leader's assistants carry on his/her teachings--->

--->Gradually formal rules emerge and an organisation is contructed to run the religion--->

--->Large scale religion with clear rules and hierarchy--->

--->Becomes Church
or
--->Becomes demominationBlessings

Sebbi

geckopelli
12-09-2004, 06:28 AM
All you've done is draw a line based on the number of followers.

A cult or a "denominatin"- same basic thing, no matter the size.

Gathering more ignorant fools than the other charlatan is hardly justification for belief in myths.

gnrm23
12-09-2004, 02:07 PM
what about them old time religions, eh?
"mystery cults"
dionysus, attis, mithras, pythagoras, the rites of eleusis (grain goddess & daughter), & many many more...
initiates into lesser & greater mysteries, whoa...



gimme that old time religion...

;)

atropine
12-10-2004, 12:58 AM
All you've done is draw a line based on the number of followers.

A cult or a "denominatin"- same basic thing, no matter the size.

Gathering more ignorant fools than the other charlatan is hardly justification for belief in myths.
this guys onto it

whispers
12-10-2004, 01:03 AM
the word cult means secert.....so that can be any religion you don't know about

atropine
12-10-2004, 01:09 AM
Websters Dictionary-
cult, n.
1. worship; reverential honor; religious devotion.
2. the system of outward forms and ceremonies used in worship; religious rites and formalities.
3. devoted attachment to, or extravagent admiration for, a person, principle, etc., especially when regarded as a fad; as, the cult of nudism.
4. a group or followers; sect.

cult means secret huh?

i think most world religions fit the bill for cultism..
worship and devotion, system of ceremonies, attachment and admiration for key figures and a group of followers. yup theyre cults.

whispers
12-10-2004, 01:21 AM
its my world you live in............now shut up smarty

TrippinBTM
12-10-2004, 05:23 AM
Websters Dictionary-
cult, n.
1. worship; reverential honor; religious devotion.
2. the system of outward forms and ceremonies used in worship; religious rites and formalities.
3. devoted attachment to, or extravagent admiration for, a person, principle, etc., especially when regarded as a fad; as, the cult of nudism.
4. a group or followers; sect.

cult means secret huh?

i think most world religions fit the bill for cultism..
worship and devotion, system of ceremonies, attachment and admiration for key figures and a group of followers. yup theyre cults.
"cult" means a lot of things. That definition has 4 definitions, there might be more. In sociology, it refers to #2, usually.

Throughout history, it has been along the lines of "sect" as well; for example, the cult of Isis within the Egyptian religion, or the cult of Mithra in the Roman world. Many were secret, not always though.

Recently it has taken on a negative meaning, as in some demagogue getting people to follow his beliefs, where he takes advantage of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

dylanzeppelin
12-10-2004, 05:25 AM
dude i want to be in a cult..

exhibita
12-26-2004, 05:45 AM
Websters Dictionary-
cult, n.
1. worship; reverential honor; religious devotion.
2. the system of outward forms and ceremonies used in worship; religious rites and formalities.
3. devoted attachment to, or extravagent admiration for, a person, principle, etc., especially when regarded as a fad; as, the cult of nudism.
4. a group or followers; sect.

cult means secret huh?

i think most world religions fit the bill for cultism..
worship and devotion, system of ceremonies, attachment and admiration for key figures and a group of followers. yup theyre cults.
I think it's Occult that maens 'secret'.

BlackGuardXIII
12-31-2004, 04:33 AM
I only hear it used to describe any faith that the user wants to insult, and by cult, they mean 'not credible'.

Nathan11
01-02-2005, 03:00 AM
dude i want to be in a cult.....you can join mine...