Datura/Jimson

[We_All_Shine_On]

Anyoen got any tales or clips of info? I've read erowid... But I am wondering some things still....
if i was to hold a flowering plant in my hand, what would I do to make it useful in the drug sense? thnx

[madboy139]

you don't want to do that shit. im not kidding. you really dont want to do that shit.

[WayfaringStranger]

from what i understand that if you dont prepare it the way the shamans used to , you can smoke the flower. but you need to do it for a few days in a row, to let the toxins build up in your system.

[backtothelab]

really, do what the first guy said, and leave that shit alone.

[madboy139]

no you dont have to do it a few days in a row. just eat a flower thats enough. or about a tablespoon worth of seeds. the shit is POISONOUS though. it works by fucking with acetylcholine and dopamine which is what antipsychotic medications control. its a state of psychosis and believe me being psychotic is NOT fun.

[gnrm23]

www.entheogen.com/datura/home.html

[crackforkids]

omg, do you realize the power that holds!?!?! have you ever taken an antichlorigenic or whatever? i went delerius on some sleeping pills and it was not fun at all! eat just ONE flower, if your gonna do it.ONE is more than enough

[makno]

datura means poison in sanskrit!it is !!we had the big d. stromonium in p.r, and some fell into water tank and steeped ,,,,,...sick we were!

[We_All_Shine_On]

amazing how just a few seeds and leaves can kill someone... thanks for the link its better than erowid. I dont think i'll do it anymore..

[gnrm23]

hehheh --->
the old aztec priests would give it to the (many per day - dozens, hundreds?) sacrificial victims so they wouldn't be all "fidgety" as they were led up the pyramids steps to heve their beating hearts sliced outa their chests as an offering to hungry gods...
& thuggee cult members would use it (slipped into food or drink or smoke) to stupefy their victims prior to robbbing them and/or offering the victim's blood to kali-ma...
& european witches would make a "flying ointment" to smear on their bodies (& also "where the sun don't shine" (using a broomstick as a dildo)(hence, the witch flying on a broomstick)...
& still useful as a medicine for eyes, for lungs, for digestion, for sinuses...
& was used as a sleeping aid & as a "truth-serum" among other things...
~
a useful medicine, but a dangerous (& tricky) ally ("to-ay lies to you")

[madboy139]

dude. if that shit is anything like being nuts is i never want to try it. you dont understand how shitty it feels to not know what is real and what isn't. very few people can deal with taht (i'm definitely not one). there was some other shit to say but i forgot it cause im fuckin trashed.

[cotter builds]

well can any one that suggested agaisnt it explain why you feel against it.

[WayfaringStranger]

the problem is, your not supposed to eat it or smoke it, you make a paste with it and aply it topically to certain parts of the body, the correct parts, and its a shamanic tool. none of you here are shamans.

[gnrm23]

well can any one that suggested agaisnt it explain why you feel against it.
~~~
well....
delerium,
coma,
death,
temporary or permanent insanity,
body so dry ya can't spit & ya can't cum,
blurred vision for days or weeks,
the need for a large, strong "baby sitter", sometimes for days,
amnesiac effects ("wow, man, what happened to my apartment? --- i've been out of my gourd for HOW long?"
the frequently required intervention of ER personnel, police, lawyers, shrinks, etc...
~
need more?
click the link to domain of datura (above) or search out info at erowid.org or lycaeum.org
~
ymmv...

[cotter builds]

well, have you done it before?

[gnrm23]

i have smoked a few seeds ocasionally, sometimes added a bit to "special brews", have a bruggie flower tincture that i sometimes "dope" a joint with, or annoint behind the ears or on the wrists...

so - i suppose i have done "medicinal levels" (or "admixture levels) only; i don't have the time to invest (or the sanity to spare) for a few days of enhanced stupidity and/or magnified craziness...

i know a few folks who have done ummmmm "recreational" doses of datura-stuff, and they generally didn't like the unquenchable dryness & the blurred vision... but as to the delerious mind-state, well - some of 'em sorta liked it, & some of 'em decided "never again"...

jeez, didja read the flippin' link or poke around our friendly info-sites yet?

yibbleyibbleyibble...

[We_All_Shine_On]

wait wait wait wait wait

alright, you know how theres a tiny bit of liquid in every leaf? what if someone was to squeeze a leaf hardcore, Any leaf, would leaf juice come out? I've always wondered that. and if that is so, why cant I just get leaf juice from datura and use it in shamanic ways after researching those ways?

Anyways I know I'm a moron but you dont know unless you ask right?

[sag aloo]

I no lots of people who have done this by making leaf tea or eating seeds or smoking (milder effects) - the stories I have heard are all totally mad. people acting totally bizarre - 1 guy kept throwing himself down stairs coz he thought he had a parachute & another was 'wrestling a shark' on the floor
this has some shamanic use but it way too strong for most - I think u should have years of work wif lsd,shrooms,pot,ayahuasca,dpt,5meo-dmt,foxy,salvia, 2C's etc b4 u think of datura & prob under guidence of a user/shaman
it is true that overdose is a real possibility & it could be possibly very dangerous or lethal

[daturastolemysoul]

datura makes you know what its like to be crazy and its kindof interesting. personaly i love it. I mean LOVE. like when i see a datura flower my heart starts racing and i feel wierd. yeah
i always make it with morning glorie seeds to make it more visual, hey who says delirium cant be fun. and are you asking if you can sell this stuff? i used to make all sorts of potions and sell them to kids, but one kids drank 3 doses of datura and he doesent know what he did for three days, he ripped a urinal and a sink out of a wall and went a littel crazy. oh and if you do it too much the people dont go away. for a while i would wake up and talk to people in the dark that wernt there. wierd shit.
mmmmm

[the zen-man puck]

I will stick with salvia thank you

[adamole]

Your not big and your not clever.
If you think you can handle it step into the world.....thats my advice and the best advice.............
DOSAGE, (Just for you)

Datura str: 3 flowers, OR, 1-2 leafs, OR, 50-150 seeds, But some people have reported effects after eating as little as 5 seeds, so go careful on the seed dose. Remember that OR, that is a big OR, if you were to eat all of the above you would surely die.

Brugmasia (tree datura): 1 flower, OR, 1-6 leafs, OR, ?? seeds, If i was you i would go for brugmansia, easier to dose with, usually 1 flower per person.

And you can trust me, i have had many brushes with daturas, and Solancaes, i also grow them for there beauty and mysterious aura they give off, after a while you really do learn to respect them, Thank you very much, ADAmole

[adamole]

You wanna know the most scariest thing about datura, waking up at night and been pinned to the bed by imaginary people, waking up, not been able to move and hearing a man say "BOOH, Ahhhhh" and running around in circles with only his shadow visible, thats the most scariest thing about datura, my skin still shudders when i think about it, it rarely happens, but when it does it will wake you up from whatever you mind is into, it will wake you up for good, screaming out for help because the presence of a person can be felt, shadows can be seen, people can be heard, thats the most scariest part............When you seriously do datura, you`re never really alone...............

[adamole]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH im going mad, but that shit did really happen to me though, i have to stop thinking about datura..........

[mebesideme]

LOL, waking up at nite paralyzed and delirious, that's called sleep paralysis my friend, I have to put up with it every nite, three times a nite sometimes. You don't need datura for that.

[adamole]

Shit man, cheers, i never knew that, i think datura caused it though.....

[modestsmoker]

is every trip insanly hard and filled with insanity


why would you want that?

i like more of a peaceful trip

[adamole]

No, i dont trip anymore, this sleep thing is an aftereffect i think, i haven`t touched a single drug in over 2 years, but i guess it is kind of filled with maddness when you do trip with it, but not that much as i recall........

[crackforkids]

anything related to datura=BAD.
dont listen to these people who enjoy it, most aren't american, and have some native guide and spirituality to them.

for REAL INFO ask gnrm23 how to use it safely as a anti motion sickness cure and a stress reliever, NEVER ingested!

[sublime40oz]

If your into not being able to differentiate between reality and whats in your head, go for it. You're in for 2-3 days of fucking madness, and you better have a good friend that you trust with your life to follow you around for 3 days to keep your ass out of jail, or worse. I sat for a friend who was determined to do the shit, at first it was interesting and sort of amusing to watch, than shit just got weird, and I felt bad for the bastard. You're not going to listen to our warnings so, good luck and "have fun?"

[astralgoldfish]

Your not big and your not clever.
If you think you can handle it step into the world.....thats my advice and the best advice.............
DOSAGE, (Just for you)

Datura str: 3 flowers, OR, 1-2 leafs, OR, 50-150 seeds, But some people have reported effects after eating as little as 5 seeds, so go careful on the seed dose. Remember that OR, that is a big OR, if you were to eat all of the above you would surely die.

Brugmasia (tree datura): 1 flower, OR, 1-6 leafs, OR, ?? seeds, If i was you i would go for brugmansia, easier to dose with, usually 1 flower per person.

And you can trust me, i have had many brushes with daturas, and Solancaes, i also grow them for there beauty and mysterious aura they give off, after a while you really do learn to respect them, Thank you very much, ADAmole
This person is crazy do not trust the dosages here!!!!
Every other site or experienced persons advise I have read (I've never tried it) wolud say that these are crazy people doses very few would enjoy.

[Druid Waking Dreamer]

Disclaimer: The following is for Informational purposes only and in no way is recommended.

Atropa komarovii
I overhead this herb being mentioned by some unknown person at the park as superior to all other datura, brugmansia and belladonna type plants. Something about bruised leaves in olive oil, heated in microwave or other heating method to a briefly held temperature of 113F to 115F for 15 to 30 seconds. Something about applied topically as fresh as possible to sensitive skin areas to create increased blood flow and/or vivid dreams depending on amount used. Have no idea if this information is accurated, but someone here might find it intellectually interesting. I suppose the increased blood flow is some type of hidden tech speak for penis masturbation or aphrodisiac type application, but this is just a wild guess.

There was also some warning about never using orally or consuming under any conditions. Funny the things you overhear people discussing in public parks!

Datura is for idiots. Think smart and be smart.

[bigman]

I am writing this in the hopes that it will prevent someone else from severe injury. This is not a report of how I am affected by the drug Datura but by my nephew who is in very, very bad shape. My 16 year old nephew is currently in I.C.U. and still after 36 hours is incoherent and nearly comatose, he hasn't recognized any family members or his surroundings since this started. His pupils are dilated nearly the size of dimes. He is apparently in living hell as demonstrated by his horrified facial expressions of bulging eyes and uncontrollable trembling. He is continually doing sporadic mumblings, with paranoid darting eyes and scanning around the room, looking at what we can only imagine. It is very obvious that he is experiencing true terror and horrific scenes of hallucination.

His heart rate is hovering around 115 - 130 bpm and his mouth is coated with blood. He is shaking, agitated and in four points restraints (which he got out of and tried to pull the catheter out of his penis which would have resulted in severe injuries did he not get stopped in time). For the first nine hours of his 'high' we were in the dark about what could be the cause of this - ambulance drivers, fire chief, police all said it was drugs but the test results all came back negative - blood and urine samples negative. This all led the doctors to believe this was neurological and my nephew was taken for a CAT scan, where results still came back negative. We all feared the worst, brain damage, anuerism, etc. every terrifying thought came to mind. All family members were called in the middle of the night where we all rushed to the the Emergency room. We cried, worried and prayed - the younger children witnessed this chaos and won't soon forget.

If you want to try this drug, please consider what the effects of this on others will be...$20,000 hospital bill at least -ICU for days, CAT scan, Ambulance, Specialists - please take warning. We can't determine how much he took as a plant with four pods were found in his room. We still don't know if he will pull out okay or not. The doctors cannot say if there will be any long term effects. We are so worried.

[Colimon]

Don't consume jimson weed. There's a thin line in between sickness and dying and tripping on this. You do't get high from any active ingreedient in this, you "get high" because you are poisoned by it. It is also very unenjoyable and scary most of the time. 3 words: NOT WORTH IT!

[Conformist2]

datura is bad
it just mimics the effects of phycosis/skitsoprenia
you see/talk to people/things that arn't there

[MeatWagon499]

i always wanted to try this cuz i like being insane on LSD but datura is hella bad for u so i dont think i ever will cuz i know a few ppl that have and theyre just kind of sketch lol.

[Colimon]

Yeah man, lots of people don't have a proper doseage or know what they are doing, and it kind of simulates phycosis. Also, lots of kids and even adults end up on life suport because of the toxic effects and their dosage.

[bigman]

I'VE DONE DATURA PROBABLY ABOUT 10 TIMES EVERY TIME I HAD A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE, NOT ONLY DOES IT MAKE YOU SEE SHIT THAT IS LIKE LIVING IN A HORROR FILM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY FEEL WHATS HAPPENING I HAD MY LEG CUT OFF ( not really ) but when i was trippin i could actually feel and see the leg gone, You dont even want to know the description of the disgusting creature that took it off.
THIS DRUG IS PURE DANGER- GO AND EAT TREE BARK INSTEAD OF THIS SHIT

[CrazyWhiteguyX.X]

umm y dont people get it allready datura=RUSSIAN ROULETTE u might be able to trip a couple of times but one day that bullet will go right though u

[uplink]

Datura isn't fun, it's horribly toxic, and the hallucinations you see are as real as real life and can physically hurt you. What's more, it can cause amnesia and people forget that they even took it. People don't realize they are tripping, they can't tell real for unreal.

[bigman]

its also very addictive, youll want it so bad, then when its over you will say to yourself what you said last time (why did i do that)

[Echelon]

Yeah, jimson weed is some real bad shit. My friend and I did it (we each ate all the seeds in a pod). All I remember after that is trying to stand up, but being WAY too heavy to and saying "fuck it, I'll go to sleep". Turns out, I didn't sleep one bit. Me and my friend were up all night, trashing the place, puking, literally pissing my pants, etc. I started to come out of it the next morning, though I would slip in and out of reality. I saw people that weren't there, along with things (clothes hangers). I also thought there were people at my house that weren't, and thought it was Friday and that I needed to get ready for school. Anyways, the paramedics came eventually, and me and my friend went to the ER. I was released after about five hours. My friend though was sent to the ICU, fought with everyone there, pulled out his IV and capiter, etc. They weren't sure if he was ever going to come out of it, and his heart beat was WAY high, just a hair away from a heart attack.

It's certainly the strongest "drug" out there. If there's anything stronger then that's seriously fucked up. Anyways, quite obviously a horrible experience. I didn't even remember 99% of my trip, so it was not pleasurable the least bit. Seriously, don't do jimson weed.

[ignignokt]

Anyoen got any tales or clips of info? I've read erowid... But I am wondering some things still....
if i was to hold a flowering plant in my hand, what would I do to make it useful in the drug sense? thnxthe queen of datura that was talked about a while back is saten.

[Dr.Pepper]

Dont Eat It

[splices0]

wow...the only problem here is the fact that idiots get ahold of it and fuck themselves up. If used for the purpose of higher intelligence and understanding, I can see a lot of potential.

[bigman]

no not really, you dont get anything out of it

[OctopusNightstand]

I say let people try it. Occasionally people have a good experience. People on these forums poison themselves all the time for the sake of self exploration, some do it to get fucked up. No matter what reason, if it doesn't feel nice they generally stop... Take the right dosage and you should wake up the next morning.

[ancient powers]

they say never use more than a gram of any part at a time. every year it grows abundantly where i live. i think i live in datura capital california. where the orginal datura shamans of cali resided. anyways enough of that. every year i watch it grow and flower and wonder. every year i gather seeds and flowers and leaves. you can smoke the leaves. use 1 flower steeped in water. and 10 seeds for a baseline high. every year i gather and every year i throw away. my other allies steer me away from this plant. use it to poison your enemies.