Ways of not getting sick from HBWR seeds

[jerberr]

I'm thinking of doing HBWR seeds and I was wondering if there is a way to do this without getting the nausea? Anyone have any suggestions?

[36fuckin5]

1. Get crapload of distilled water from store. Not mineral water, distilled. Let stand overnight then put it through a water filter anyway, just in case they lied and poured it from the tap.

2. Using your usual volume per amount of seeds, mix up a batch of bicarbonate solution (baking soda + distilled water). Soak the seeds overnight, pouring through a coffee filter to catch any undissolved baking soda.

3. Repeat step 2.

4. Soak the seeds for 1-2 days in ordinary (baking-soda-free) distilled water, for a nice CWE. Or at least a water extraction. Add 1-2 capfuls of vinegar (or your desired amount of tartaric acid) for luck.

5. Pour off water through coffee filter into an empty container.

6. GENTLY add little sprinkles of baking soda until it stops foaming... at which time you can just start adding teaspoons at a time until little white rocks form. If you're using a container you can close and shake, this would be a good thing...

7. Pour through coffee filter.

8. Make dilute bicarb solution by pouring baking soda into distilled water and then pouring off through a filter paper as before... then, add twice its volume in distilled water.

9. Pour a few splashes of the dilute solution through your coffee filter in the funnel until the bicarb stops rinsing away, and only the little white rocks remain.

10. Shake the little white rocks out on a mirror or glass table, which has been cleaned of dust beforehand. Do NOT eat them all at once, lol.

11. Scrape little white rocks and powder from the mirror into a clean cap from a 2l bottle. Fill a dropper bottle (visine, candy drops, etc) with distilled water - a few sprinkles of vitamin C help here, if you've got 'em - and squirt it out into the bottlecap. Sprinkle in tartaric acid until the little white rocks dissolve, and suck them into the vial.

12. Try a few drops. If that doesn't work, wait a week for your tolerance to go down and try a few more drops. If you've got a good milligram scale, you can actually do this in mg/drop, but otherwise, you'll just have to make up your dose as you go along from an educated guess.

This is from the LSA thread on zoklet.net's Flasks & Beakers forum. Read it.

[jerberr]

How many seeds of HWBR do you need to have a decent trip?

[PeaceAndRasta]

i never mind about nausea, i puke my problems away ;)

[jerberr]

i never mind about nausea, i puke my problems away ;)

lol, but seriously how many seeds do you need for a trip?

[strat]

I'd say to start with 10. Then work your way up from there, because 10 seed will give you a mild to moderate trip and you will be able to see how you react to the seeds.

Do a cold water extraction. All you do is soak the fine ground seeds in distilled water (I like to use orange juice) for 30 minutes (no more no less), then filter off the seed mush with a coffee filter and drink the seed-free liquid. Throw the seed mush away.

[TranquilPaths]

Call me dumb, but what are you guys talking about?

[jerberr]

I'd say to start with 10. Then work your way up from there, because 10 seed will give you a mild to moderate trip and you will be able to see how you react to the seeds.

Do a cold water extraction. All you do is soak the fine ground seeds in distilled water (I like to use orange juice) for 30 minutes (no more no less), then filter off the seed mush with a coffee filter and drink the seed-free liquid. Throw the seed mush away.

I heard on another post that 5 seeds would be good enough? Especially since it's my first time doing this.

[unfocusedanakin]

when you take them, also take some ginger.

it's a natural nasua suppressant. It works really well when swallowing anything unpleasant.

[jerberr]

Do you mean the ground ginger powder?

[Gratefully Dawg]

^that, or a ginger chew, or ginger tea... OR GINGER CANDY!!!
but seriously they make ginger into everything

I find that if you crush the seeds, soak them in lemon juice for 5 to 10 min, strain the lemon juice, add water and sugar, and you got a pretty tasty drink right there. With not much nausea-given that you didn't fuck up the straining step.
Don't expect open eyed visuals with HBWR, but you'll definitely get into the head space of it all.

Ancient Powers use to do a lot more work with things such as this. You should read his LSA techs. They work for me.

[jerberr]

Pure Land Ethnobotanicals has a pack of 20 seeds (1 strain) for $9.95. Is this a good deal for the HBWR seeds?

[Steele]

or smoke a bowl, marijuana is one of the best treatments for nausea. i also find doing a cold water extraction works well or grinding the seeds very fine and mixing them with a yogurt that is rich in pro biotic cultures like activia because the cultured bacteria aids digestion and is good for you

[Sweetart_Katie]

5 seeds is probably good if your gonna just eat them but if you do all the extracting and such they lose some potency so you have to do a few extra. I still have a bag with like 100 in it cuz just eating it make me WAY too sick. Gonna have to try the OJ thing and maybe the lemon juice drink. Good buzz but I couldn't handle the extreme sick that I got. BTW my first time I was a complete fucking dink and ate like 15 lol I thought I was gonna puke forever! :) PS: a good movie to NOT watch while tripping is total recall! :rolleyes: What was I thinking?!

Actually I think I'm gonna head to the store and grab some OJ now... suddenly got me a craving and wanna try... let ya'll know how it goes!

[jerberr]

I recently made a purchase of 10 seeds so perhaps maybe I should use all 10 if I do the extraction method?

[Sweetart_Katie]

Ehh... I wasn't too impressed with the OJ method. I didn't get sick but between my hubby and I 25 seeds didn't do much more then a mild body buzz. :( 3 or 4 usually gets me ALL fucked up.

[jerberr]

I saw this method on shroomery.org:

Don't bother extracting the LSA unless you have circulatory problems. The vasoconstriction from the glycosides can be remedied by acetaminophen and water.

I always did this:

Coffee ground the seeds
Let sit in lemon juice for 15 minutes.
Stir.
Let sit in lemon juice for 15 minutes.
Add orange juice.
Drink.


Be really careful. Batches can vary in potency from no effect to '4 seeds does you well for 6 hours' effect. As with any drug, start low, and work your way up.


Does this method seem legit to those who have used the HBWR seeds? I have a coffeee ginder and also a small food processor to grind the seeds with.

[unfocusedanakin]

Do you mean the ground ginger powder?

Well you could, but that would probably not tatse the best.

I would just mix a bit into some other drink, some tea or jucie or something that will tasse ok.

[Sweetart_Katie]

Alright i tried the Oj thing again but I let them soak for 2 1/2 - 3 hours. Worked WAY better. Still got sick but not at all like I normally do. Thanx for the advice!

[Mr.Writer]

PS: a good movie to NOT watch while tripping is total recall! :rolleyes: What was I thinking?!

gosh what's not to like about

http://www.dirtyrottenwhore.com/wp-content/uploads/whores/other/top10movieboobflash/total_recall_3_boobs.jpg

[orison319]

i ate a bunch of flower buds, leafs, and vines this morning.. i was feeling pretty good..
my dog thought to join me while I was pulling off flowers and he ate some too.. :D

[IpsissimusFaustus]

Were there any true psychedelic effects from eating the fresh material or was it just a mood boost?

[Samurai Drifter]

I haven't yet tried HBWR. However, from what I've read a combination of the following methods will help with nausea:

1) Perform cold water extraction (as previously mentioned).
2) Drink ginger root tea (natural nausea suppressant)
3) Smoke a bowl of MJ when you feel the first twinges of nausea.

Some people, for whatever reason, seem to have minimal nausea anyway, and most say pot works wonders in curing it.

[orison319]

Were there any true psychedelic effects from eating the fresh material or was it just a mood boost?
Im sorry this OP was referring to Woodrose. but yes there is some noticeable psychedelic effects in the morning glory heavenly blues..
Its hard to find pictures on the internet of the beginning developing seed pod/
the leaf not so good, But I do find psychedelics to be alot of what you may believe in, The flowers themselves are not said to be active, but Ive eaten them.. and definitely feel something, and have picked a few hundred, which in seed sense would be 400, Each seed pod has 4 seeds. they form a circle in the base of the bud.
I like eating the tubular vines to, the reddish parts is suppose to be good for your stomach..

[LSDMIKE]

i ate a bunch of flower buds, leafs, and vines this morning.. i was feeling pretty good..
my dog thought to join me while I was pulling off flowers and he ate some too.. :D


you sound more like a goat than a squirrel :D

http://www.hickoryhavengoats.com/images/smaller/goatandflowerscsmS.jpg
little orison on a fine sunny day

[shermin]

Well you could, but that would probably not tatse the best.

I would just mix a bit into some other drink, some tea or jucie or something that will tasse ok.

i love ginger...just EAT IT RAW!!!!

hahaha.