What do you get out of LSA

[jerberr]

What do you get out of doing LSA (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose or Morning glory seeds)? Is it an amazing experience like LSD or shrooms?

[alroy]

yes very similar to lsd

[PsychedeliaSmith]

yes very similar to lsd

It's not similar to LSD at all.
It's got a pretty psychedelic head space, lots of room for weird thoughts, very little visually and lots of nasty side effects.
Not worth bothering with if you can get your hands on LSD IMHO, LSA strikes me as a drug for people that don't have any connections.

[pushit]

Ha it is a drug for people with no connections. I only did it once but after the nausea I really liked it.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Ha it is a drug for people with no connections. I only did it once but after the nausea I really liked it.

You saying this has just reminded me of my first LSA trip.
It was the only one where the nausea passed and it was actually really good after that.
The rest were awful though. Great mind fuck but the nausea and body load ruined it completely.
Fuck LSA, it's LSD you want.

[strat]

increase dose. cwe, a/b or polar/nonpolar.

method dependant (I'm talking cwe method on this particular example) you can't say that a 10 hbwr/500 mg seed trip is an lsa experience. People start on those doses. You need more.

Eating the seeds... Barforama, painful... Cwe, nice mellow trip, or intense depending on dose, some body load.

Understanding what you want out of the experience is just as important as deciding what you will dose.

[jerberr]

I recently went on 3 LSA trips and I also smoked Salvia (15X) during the trip about 4 or 5 times. The Salvia certainly had an effect on it and I also got more visuals out of it too.

[Tripping_Charlie]

Got 2 packets of those heavenly blues.. was thinking of growing em.. but I'm gana rather make me a good cup of tea instead. right about..... NOW!!!!:D

[IpsissimusFaustus]

I've found LSA to be very useful in some aspects. As many have said, great mental trip, very introspective and self-analytic with a clarity of thought I've rarely experience sober or not. Visually it is far from exciting, but again, it's the trip for those lacking connections. Eating them straight is pretty hideous, and I can't speak for extractions. I'll always have a soft-spot for LSA as it was the first psychedelic that really changed my worldview; it opened up a whole new world for me. After my first MG trip, years of crippled depression and anxiety lifted almost completely.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

There's a legal high product by Happy Caps called Trip-E that's basically ground up HBWR seeds with some vitamins and stuff to try and counter the negative effects all capped up and sold in packs of 4 for around £5.
Much easier than preparing the seeds yourself.

I found 4-8 caps to be the dosage range, if you venture up to 8 be ready for the purge. :ack2:

The rest of the Happy Caps range are pretty much bunk, avoid them.

[NNDimethyltryptaDream]

YOu get fucked up thoughts, VERY mild visuals, cramps, nasuea,... LSD is so much better.

[Tripping_Charlie]

yeah true.. I got nothing but being ill when I ingested those morning glory seeds!!!

[strat]

You have to do it right. I almost compare the seeds to the ergot fungus, in terms of a carrier. Eat either one straight up, well... I wouldn't want to.

Also have to get the dosage right for the trip you want. You want visuals, well 500 mg's ain't gonna cut it.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

You have to do it right. I almost compare the seeds to the ergot fungus, in terms of a carrier. Eat either one straight up, well... I wouldn't want to.

Also have to get the dosage right for the trip you want. You want visuals, well 500 mg's ain't gonna cut it.

The seeds aren't meant to be visual. If you take enough for a decent amount of visuals the side effects are gonna get unbearable.

[strat]

Most definitely, depending on method of extraction/ingestion.

There seem to be a lot of people that underestimate the seeds though. If you think you know what you want from them, then extract the lsa in a way that will allow you to have that experience. If you want an lsd like experience, don't eat 500 seeds straight. Extract 2000 with polar/nonpolar solvent, use this to dose up to the point where you want to be.
If you do eat 500 though, don't be disappointed by the fact you didn't get what you wanted. There is still much you can learn from them.

You wouldn't eat some ergot hoping for an lsd like experience... In my opinion it's almost the same principal.

[NNDimethyltryptaDream]

The extraction with alcohol and what not is really the only other way Id try this again. If I get my shit together and do it, perhaps... Fuck the cold water extractions. It produces the most god aweful tasting thing Ive ever drank.

[Natural Born Raver]

I've talen up to 900 morning glory seeds at a time and the only set back is getting sick. For me it always passes, but unless you extract them, it's really hard to get down.
Like said, it's a psychedlic mind high, an gets pretty visual at 600 seeds and +.
At 900, I had amzing trails, a beautiful pattern over everything and my shoes melting into the floor. I can't explain all of it, you have to try it.
But, once you try acid, you tend to ditch LSA, lol.

[infowarrior]

ive never tried LSA. ive always planned on it but just never got around to it. i have better things to trip on lol

[IpsissimusFaustus]

But, once you try acid, you tend to ditch LSA, lol.

From recent developments, hopefully this will soon be my case.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Most definitely, depending on method of extraction/ingestion.

There seem to be a lot of people that underestimate the seeds though. If you think you know what you want from them, then extract the lsa in a way that will allow you to have that experience. If you want an lsd like experience, don't eat 500 seeds straight. Extract 2000 with polar/nonpolar solvent, use this to dose up to the point where you want to be.
If you do eat 500 though, don't be disappointed by the fact you didn't get what you wanted. There is still much you can learn from them.

You wouldn't eat some ergot hoping for an lsd like experience... In my opinion it's almost the same principal.

A lot of the side effects are caused by LSA itself, not the seeds.
Even if you extract the LSA high doses will have your body cramping up and head firmly in the toilet.

[Tripping_Charlie]

noways man!!!!!! morning glory seeds are kak!! its nothing but an illness, something like nausea and a stomach ahce. thats it!!!!!! dont go there, go shrooms! its alot better, get someone to post you a good strain and then you grow em.. itl become your new hobby, trust me. psychedelic is what you want then shrooming is for you!!!
LSA is utter bull.

[orison319]

noways man!!!!!! morning glory seeds are kak!! its nothing but an illness, something like nausea and a stomach ahce. thats it!!!!!! dont go there, go shrooms! its alot better, get someone to post you a good strain and then you grow em.. itl become your new hobby, trust me. psychedelic is what you want then shrooming is for you!!!
LSA is utter bull.
you should quit life.. :rolleyes:

[PsychedeliaSmith]

you should quit life.. :rolleyes:

Why? LSA IS horrible compared to mushrooms.

[orison319]

... . this thread is about LSA....

... what is the point bashing it and going on a take mushrooms rant.. WTF ? ...

...why bother to take opiates pill when heroin is on every corner.. :rolleyes:

.. you should give up on life if you cant understand what I ment...http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/thumbs/flowstone.gif (http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/showphoto.php/photo/171436/cat/500/ppuser/104271)

[raz5]

i thought it was OK but that's it, the nausea sucks so i'd suggest you extract it, that's all i really have to say. unless you really want to trip and really can't get any lsd and are in diiiiire need of it then go ahead...

[orison319]

People keep buying seeds that are treated with crap to keep them from spoiling ..

I collect them of live plants fresh they are soft and still white.. They look like pointy and thats when they are ready. Though Ive pulled ones that were smaller ... squeeze them out and they pop out there are way less side effects.. As well as in the tendrils contain compounds to lessen stomach ache, so its said somewhere...

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[raz5]

i have living morning glories in my garden :)

[PsychedeliaSmith]

... . this thread is about LSA....

... what is the point bashing it and going on a take mushrooms rant.. WTF ? ...

Because the OP asked if it's an amazing experience similar to LSD or 'shrooms?

[Tripping_Charlie]

yeah u square!!! lol... kidding.
my life just got better when she hugged me! yes I'm talking about the shroom.
its been beautiful ever since.

[strat]

LSD sucks because I ate some ergot and got sick...

???

If you haven't had an amazing experience with LSA then that's ok. If you don't like it then that's ok. But it most definitely doesn't suck.

Most people don't know what a large dose of lsa feels like, because they have not felt one. I was looking for a life changing experience once. There was something about the seeds that tempted me to go to them... So I dosed 1200 mg's extracted for 45 mins in orange juice.

One of the most painful experiences of my life. But I met the mg spirit and heard the voice of the seeds. CEV's of ameobic patterns (cliche but true) and synesthesia, I tried eating to help my stomach and saw the color of the flavor of the bread I was eating. Couldn't even chew it for more than a few seconds, spit it out to prevent vomiting. Auditory effets, sharpening of sounds. Colors became somewhat two dimentional. Proportion was eliminated, shapes of objects grew and shrank and changed color. During comedown everything in the room seemed to be vibrating. Time dilation was extreme, I mean extreme. I couldn't stand without getting the urge to vomit. Everything that had happened in my entire life was revealed to me, from start to present. Like I was watching a tv. I saw now how to become happy again (I had been sad for quite some time before this) and understood what people meant when they said that psychedelics could be used for "healing". I was healing myself, in spite of the pain I was in.

Now imagine that, without the pain and nausea. That is what a solvent or acid/base extracted dose of lsa would be like, if it was that same dose. I myself prefer polar/nonpolar solvent extractions of lsa. I haven't even felt nauseous from lsa extracted in this manner, while I get painful side effects from equivalent doses eaten straight or cwe'd.

All right, I'll give it to ya... I was in pain during the experience. A lot of it. But I'm certainly glad I did it, and it changed my life. It was powerful. Knowing what I do now, I can't wait to dose that same dose, extracted with solvents.

IMO eating the seeds straight or doing a cwe is benificial if you take a low dose for meditation, reflection, introspection... While a large dose would probably be extracted properly to avoid the unpleasant side effects.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Like I said before, a lot of the side effects come from LSA itself not the seeds.

I think I'll give 'one of the most painful experiences of my life' a miss and just stick to LSD.
I like being able to trip hard without feeling like I'm dying.

[strat]

I understand what you are saying, and don't mean to be disagreeable or start an argument when I say this;

but I have personally not had any of the negative side effects of the seeds with solvent-extracted lsa. I can trip without the pain associated with the seeds. Since different things effect people defferently, I can see that perhaps there is a chance that the situation is I don't get sick from lsa, but some of the stuff in the seeds makes me sick.

Maybe your experience is different than mine; but to me, the seeds and solvent extracted lsa solution are like a completely different ball game.

[Bassline514]

I always had fantastic experiences with HBWR. I chew on the seeds for 10-15 minutes then swallow them. I once had a bit of nausea and stomach pain but it didn't last really long. I was super trippy for a few hours after that, with a lot of open and closed eye hallucinations.

Like at the beginning of my first trip, me and my friend were in the subway and it finally arrived. I went in the wagon and sit next to the window with my friend right next to me. Just when the doors have closed and the train started to move I look out the window and I see my face floating in the air, like a mask or something. I just realized I left my face behind and started tripping hard about it. I had a pocket mirror and look at myself and all I saw was a black hole with 2 eyes floating. I panicked and pulled my coat up my eyes and was hiding the fact I had "no more face". My friend was laughing his ass off and tried to calm me down. Then later in the evening I saw Ganesh appear on the stucco wall in my room. At a moment I could see molecules and DNA chains of people and animals, as well as chakras. I had an hallucination when looking at my Rising Sun flag about manga kids singing a silly japanese kids song and dancing under a rainbow with smiling plastic yellow flowers clapping their hands to the music. That is just the tip of the iceberg though, my LSA trips were pure mad delirious fun.

[Tripping_Charlie]

yeah, you kinda right strat, the seeds might effect ppl differently to others, so I wont argue with that too lol..
all I'm ganna say is....

I LOVE SHROOMS!!!!!!!! its too mystical.. and something that I always imagined and thought it never exsisted, (and I'm speaking about the mystical vibe) and the separation of sound, sight, taste, emotions, etc.. are all true!!!!!!!!!
and I've discoverd it through mushies. that's why I enjoy em so much..
but thats my opinion.. others might say otherwsie.

[solarus]

sick and a satisfied state of awareness.