best place for pods?

[Mr.Good Cat]

Last time i bought pods it was on ebay... im thinking about doing it again, but I'm going to ask first... where is the best place to buy these decorative items ?
would i get more material out of the large ones (last time i bought the medium)?

Thanks for your help =)

[MaryJBlaze]

botanical spirit out of BC, it's on ebay.....best supplier ever!!!

[twang]

jussst grow em

[MaryJBlaze]

jussst grow em


you're lucky ive used up user rep for today, this post was totally pointless and didnt answer the question at all:rolleyes:

[kil0]

on ebay, my vendor has never let me down. They are called Premium (or Premier) Poppy Plus or somethin like. Always had great deals and fast shipping.

[shiva_master]

A friend of mine gets the gianthiums. They are dank. Not sure exaxtly where he gets them. Can find out easily. Man that pod tea is great:D

The Giganthiums are the size of a SOFTBALL!:eek:

[Mr.Good Cat]

Yea.. i forgot the name of the place i went through last time i bought on ebay but, it was like $80 for 200 med pods. I think that's a good price... could be better but its fair and the shipping was fast..

I'm also wondering if it would be worth it to buy the bigger ones (would i get more or less material out of them per dollar spent??) My previous theory was that the bigger ones were in higher demand so they would just cost me more and it would be more economical to just buy the medium pods. From what i hear potency is just luck of the draw and the size has nothing to do with it, so all I'm really concerned with the amount of material i get out of my sack of pods..

And i did try to grow them, but i guess it going to take more effort than just sprinkling seeds around my field.. Some day I'll have a nice crop and i would imagine the addiction that comes along with it. But for now i keep it under control.

Looks like ebay is the way to go.... i saw 400 med pods for like $120 money well spent

[kil0]

Good cat, do you live in Lodi? thats cool man, I lived there when I was mad young, like 5-7 years old.

[Mr.Good Cat]

Kilo, in the summer i live in my place right by Lodi point that's where i am now... It's nice having a place on the lake, i just bought a nice sailboat too.. I hope i get to sail to the keys this winter..

It's kind of funny you use to live here it's kind of a rat town.. But i have met a decent amount of really cool people... lots of hippies around here.. I'm kind of surprised there is lots of coke floating around here, bartender use to sell it right out of the Eagle Hotel

lol Looodi po box 69 thats me

some one has to have some O around here

[jamiemakecakelate]

damn i didnt know you could get those off ebay. how do you use the dried ones? do you make tea with them or can you smoke them?

[IpsissimusFaustus]

damn i didnt know you could get those off ebay. how do you use the dried ones? do you make tea with them or can you smoke them?

Tea or just eat them. It would be way too much material to smoke effectively, and probably hellishly harsh smoke.

[kil0]

there is a way to make smokeable opium-style mush out of the pods. You just need some materials and some chemistry knowledge. Heres a TEK (FAQ) for how to convert from pod tea to morphine HCl, which can be snorted or smoked "chasing the dragon".

I found some other guy's method for making Morphine HCl out of pod tea. Its similar to yours but you know more chemistry than I do, so tell me if this method looks good.

My theory on making Morphine HCl ~ by Archenemy550

Sooooo, I have been doing alot, and I mean ALOT of research on Morphine Sulfate and Morphine HCl. For whatever reason I am extremly fascinated with it, and I also love chemistry. So I started to see what it would take to make your own Morphine at home from easily attainable items. I did this for a Chemistry class recently. Here is what I have come up with. *Note: This is for research only and should not be attempted as it would be illegal*
Here is a list of all the items/chemicals you will need:

2 pots: Capable of holding at least 12 Liters each
Liquid Measuring Cups: Cups that measure in mL, and one that measures in L
Strainer: Made of Metal with wire mesh
Stirring Spoon: Made of Metal, Plastic or Wood
Open Flame Device: Stove or Bunsen Burner
Thermometer: Must be able to measure 75ºC and 80ºC in liquid
Gram Scale: Preferable to measure to the nearest 100th of a gram (i.e 5.25g)
1 Pack of Large Coffee Filters
2 Glass Baking Dish's
Oven (Optional)
Portable Fan (Optional)
Clock and Timer: Useful for exact times.. duh!
Papaver Somniferum: Dried Poppy Pods +10cm of the stalk
Distilled Water: H2)O, Also know as dH2O
Activated Carbon: C
Citric Acid: H3C6H5O7
Ethyl Alcohol (Optional): C2H5OH, Must be 200 proof/100% alcohol. It CAN NOT BE DENATURED
Hydrochloric Acid: HCl, Must be 10% or higher
Potassium Hydroxide: KOH
Calcium Carbonate (Optional): CaCO3, Can be used in place of KOH
Ammonium Chloride: NH4Cl
For Diacetyl Morphine, or Heroin HCl / No.1 No.2 No.3 No.4 Heroin:
Acetic Anhydride (AA): C4H6O3

Step 1: 50 Grams of Poppy Straw is ground up into a fine powder by using a blender or a coffee grinder. (Poppy Straw is dried Papaver Somniferum, or "opium poppy" pods and 10cm of the stalk. Tazmanian poppies have the highest yield of Morphine content at 21%. Each pod should roughly contain 21% Morphine, 16% Codeine, 14% Thebaine and 9% papaverine. Poppy Straw can be bought in a local flower shop or online legaly in the U.S. and Eurpoe for use in decorative pieces. In Europe, one can actually grow up to like 500 square feet legally... so long as you don't score them )

Step 2: For each gram or poppy straw used, 10 times the ammount of distilled water should be used. So for our 50g we will use 5 liters of distilled H2O. This water is gently heated to 80Cº and slightly acidified using citric acid to a pH of 6.1. The reason for acidifying is becasue Morphine is extracted easier with acids. The Morphine is drawn out of the plant easier and by doing this will result in a higher grade end product as well as more end product. Another option is to add 585mL of Ethyl Alcohol to help with the Morphine attach to the citric acid. Again this adds to yield and purity/efficiency.

Step 3: The Poppy Straw is then added to the simmering water and stired every 20 minutes or so. This is left to steep for about 4 hours. At no time should this solution boil, because Morphine breaks down above 85Cº.

Step 4: After 4 hours of soaking, the poppy water is run through a metal mesh strainer 3 times. This will remove most of the large plant materials. The liquid is then run through a large coffee filter. Doing this will remove all the rest of the plant material. The plant material is then discarded and the water is placed back on the stove top. (The plant material can also be used to make a poppy tea. Or, one can preform steps 1-4 with half of the distilled water to get any last remaning Morphine out)

Step 5: The solution is slowly heated to 75Cº and Potassium Hydroxide (KOH-) is added until the pH reaches an alkalinity of 9.1. Solids should start to form in the liquid. These solids are plant fats, waxes, papaverine, thebaine, some codeine and other materials that you do not want in you're Morphine. This aqueous solution should be left at 75ºC for about 25 minutes. The KOH binds to the Morphine in the Poppy Solution to create Calcium Morphenate. (Alternatly Calcium Carbonate can be used to create Calcium Morphenate. However I feel that KOH is the best choice) Calcium Morphenate is water soluble, so it remains in liquid form. However all of the unwanted materials become water insoluble. This means that they will turn to solids and sink to the bottom of the pot or "fall out". This should be left to sit and cool for about 4 hours.

Step 6: This solution is again run through a large coffee filter. The Calcium Morphenate passes through the filter in the liquid, while the unwanted solids stay in the filter. The solids are then thrown away.

Step 7: The solution is gently heated to 75Cº once again. After about 10 minutes of warming, Ammonium Chloride is added to bring the pH to an alkalinity of exactly 11.1. The reason the pH must be exact is that Morphine will not precipitate below this solution, and it will form very slowly above it. For maximum effiency, 11.1 is needed. This action of adding NH4Cl turns the water soluble Calcium Morphenate into water a insoluble Morphine Base.

Step 8: The solution is then run through a cloth filter. The waste liquid that passes through is disposed of and the solids left behind on the filter are kept and put into a glass baking dish. These solids are then left out to dry. One can also place the solids into the oven at 155ºF. The door should be left open and a portable fan should be left to blow on the material. This is the fastest way to dry. When dried, this stuff is Morphine Base. It should be a coffee colored crystaline powder.

Step 9: This powder is then covered with 10% (or higher %) Hydrochloric Acid and left to sit for 20 minutes. There should be about 3mm HCl above the Morphine Base. In the span of 20 minutes the solutionshould be stirred 4 times, or once every 5 minutes. This liquid is then passed through activated charcoal. The liquid that comes through is left to dry. The oven method can again be used. When dry this should be a white odorless crystaline powder, otherwise known as Morphine Hydrochloride. This is an all natural alkaloid and isoquinoline from a flower.

Thats it! This could also easily be turned into Diacetyl Morphine (Heroin) with AA or AAA. Heroin is exactly Morphine, except the 3 and 6 diol group is acetylated.
That took me about 2 weeks to come up with, so tell me what you guys think. I got an A+ on my paper, so I'm happy with it

[twang]

you're lucky ive used up user rep for today, this post was totally pointless and didnt answer the question at all:rolleyes:

I think I provided a definite cheaper alternative. Maybe he hasn't looked into it before? Chillax yo.

[Mr.Good Cat]

Smoking it would be to easy for me...and it would turn into a problem fast....so I'm just going to keep it to the tea it's not so easy or enjoyable, i normally use it to help me sleep..

Kilo- yea that looks like it would work... I have also see stuff on the web that explains how you get a mash out of the tea by freezing the water. I guess all the good stuff doesn't freeze and just moves to the unfroze water.. I have also thought bout boiling it off under a vacuum (you don't need as much heat to boil water under a vacuum, and in turn none of the opiates would get destroyed by the heat.) But like i said to easy= to often, which would cause a problem..

Ummmmm.... anyone know the answer to my question about buying bigger pods ? thanks

Twang..I'm cool with your response.. if that matters at all

[ILL BILL NECRO]

I lived there when I was mad young, like 5-7 years old.

hahaha "Mad young"... you made me laugh kilo:D... im gonna start up that hip hop thread at the other place you gotta check it out.

[Twizz]

I always got mine from Mr.Poppy from Ft.Lauderdale... another Ebay source. Good prices and they're really co-operative.

[Mr.Good Cat]

Ok.. i have searched far and wide and ebay is and has been the best source..I just fell it might be the downfall of the legal poppy pods...

ummm any word on the size concern i have??

[mastercylinder]

im with Kilo ebay--premiun poppies plus-----try those then u can go on to the giants which i like but are expensive-you make tea---heat but dont boil the water--for about an hour then cool and drink tstes like shit i alwys add sweet and low them boil the grounds you have left for another hour and drink that 2 hrs pretty much gets all the active ingreidents out---other people have other receipies buts thats how i do it-----very long lasting high 10-12 hrs geat if you like opiates---use about 10 mediun large pods-----Late

[Mr.Good Cat]

Yea... I'm not really big on opiates, i just use the stuff to help me sleep b/c i work overnight and my sleep schedule is all messed up.. It does last forever too i can drink it a couple hrs b4 bed and wake up in the morning still feeling it for a few hrs through the day. i also like to drink it when im coming down off of mdma, it takes that cracked out feeling away and i can sleep easy... Makes me want to eat pussy =P. I think im going to stick with the medium pods for now..