prana
04-09-2009, 03:40 AM
some excerps from his book, The Dreaming Universe
pg 182
"The process of differentiating self and nonself is fundamental and is what we mean when we say that an event occurs, when we see an event occurring, when we label an event's attributes, when we describe events, and in general, when we have an experience of the world.
Thus the self/nonself split is responsible for awareness of the universe as 'out there' and awareness of "in here" or the "I." The two are the same experience, for one cannot be aware of "out there" without simultaneously being aware of 'in here.'"
[[ there is a reference at the end of previous paragraph to the notes in the back of the book that says: "States of meditation seem to contradict this statement. Meditators speak of states of pure conciousness without any object of conciousness. I would suggest that this state contains a self-referring loop: the observer and the observed are the same thing. Thus I would suggest that there is a material component of this self-awareness state, the body itself." ]]
"Now the dream is the experiment that sets in motion where that boundary between I and not-I is to take place. The wider in space and time that boundary is, the greater is the extended sense of self. If we were to be telepathic at all times, we would not feel that we were living in side of our skins. Our senses would include 'direct experience' of being well outside. Thus if I were in telepathic communication with all events in the universe, I would be all of the universe, in much the same way that I am in telepathic communication with all of my body, and therefore I am my body."
[[ another reference from the back of the book: "It may seem far-fetched to think of body awareness as telepathic. I do not mean anything weird in this. I simply mean that body awareness proceeds through instantaneous, quantum-physical, spacelike, synchronous connections--the kind that I am referring to throughout this book. Certainly a lot of signalling is going around the body via the nervous system. However, as I explained in chapter 6, most of this seems to be unconcious, and rather mechanical, in spite of our awareness." ]]
pg 343
"If we take seriously the idea that the universe is being created in a dream of a single spiritual entity, then it would follow that each of us is part of that dream. However, we also dream every night. Could the dreams we have be nothing more than crossing over a boundary between the dream reality and the 'big dreamer'? In other words, are we possibly not only the dream of the great spirit, but with a slight shift in the perspective view of this boundary, are we the dreamer?"
pg 182
"The process of differentiating self and nonself is fundamental and is what we mean when we say that an event occurs, when we see an event occurring, when we label an event's attributes, when we describe events, and in general, when we have an experience of the world.
Thus the self/nonself split is responsible for awareness of the universe as 'out there' and awareness of "in here" or the "I." The two are the same experience, for one cannot be aware of "out there" without simultaneously being aware of 'in here.'"
[[ there is a reference at the end of previous paragraph to the notes in the back of the book that says: "States of meditation seem to contradict this statement. Meditators speak of states of pure conciousness without any object of conciousness. I would suggest that this state contains a self-referring loop: the observer and the observed are the same thing. Thus I would suggest that there is a material component of this self-awareness state, the body itself." ]]
"Now the dream is the experiment that sets in motion where that boundary between I and not-I is to take place. The wider in space and time that boundary is, the greater is the extended sense of self. If we were to be telepathic at all times, we would not feel that we were living in side of our skins. Our senses would include 'direct experience' of being well outside. Thus if I were in telepathic communication with all events in the universe, I would be all of the universe, in much the same way that I am in telepathic communication with all of my body, and therefore I am my body."
[[ another reference from the back of the book: "It may seem far-fetched to think of body awareness as telepathic. I do not mean anything weird in this. I simply mean that body awareness proceeds through instantaneous, quantum-physical, spacelike, synchronous connections--the kind that I am referring to throughout this book. Certainly a lot of signalling is going around the body via the nervous system. However, as I explained in chapter 6, most of this seems to be unconcious, and rather mechanical, in spite of our awareness." ]]
pg 343
"If we take seriously the idea that the universe is being created in a dream of a single spiritual entity, then it would follow that each of us is part of that dream. However, we also dream every night. Could the dreams we have be nothing more than crossing over a boundary between the dream reality and the 'big dreamer'? In other words, are we possibly not only the dream of the great spirit, but with a slight shift in the perspective view of this boundary, are we the dreamer?"