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SpENS93
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
when testing for opiates (morphine) does hydrocodone or hydromorphone get detected?
-beatnick
04-07-2009, 12:22 AM
probably not i'd say, but why risk it for goddamned vicoden?
TooCrisp
04-07-2009, 12:38 AM
pretty sure you have to specifically test for it. same with oxycodone. they wouldn't come up on a generic drug test. i know morphine and heroin (turns into morphine) would show up, not sure of any others.
dont take my word for it though...i heard this awhile ago. do your research.
SothisIsLife
04-07-2009, 12:59 AM
hydrocodone and oxycodone will come up on a typical 12-panel drug test that is used in lab testing because oxycodone is excreted as morphine which i believe is the same way heroin is excreted so they will think you are a heroin user if it comes back positive. Usually takes oxycodone about two-three days to clear out of your system.
If its a home test (one of those piss dipsticks) you can get away with taking about 20mg-30mg/day and still piss negative. Depends on the cutoff level of the test tho...the ones i used had a cutoff level of 300 micrograms/mL for morphine.
SpENS93
04-07-2009, 01:10 AM
well heres the thing
ive been dropping twice a week for up until a month ago (down 2 once a week)
and im a regular oxy user, never failed ANY test except for aderall (amphetamine)
and as im aware, oxy turns into thebaine not morphine in the brain
so its iffy??? idk all my buddy could get today are norcos, why does every one get oxy scripts filled on a tuesday lol?
EDIT: My drug tests are only 5 panel, lab screened
china_white
04-07-2009, 02:06 AM
um just go on erowid, and look it up in the drug testing vault
SpENS93
04-07-2009, 02:08 AM
been there done that dosent really help =/
Oxyrisin2
04-07-2009, 02:51 AM
5 panel test dosen't show up oxy or hydrocodone.I've taken 2 tests in the last year for my job. been on both 80mg of each a day. Infact took 80mgs of oxy 5 hours before my test, and passed with flying colars.
Your good to go
Slingblade
04-07-2009, 03:34 AM
oxyrisin beat me to it. I took a lotta oxy (dont remember the exact dose) the day before and the day of the test (to the point I had to pull over and barf on the way) and it was a lab test and I passed. You are fine. Just dont do any smack.
SpENS93
04-07-2009, 03:57 AM
i know about the oxy since ive been using it and passed every time its the hydro im asking about
Oxyrisin2
04-07-2009, 04:23 AM
READ MY POST MAN!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
Slingblade
04-07-2009, 04:56 AM
i know about the oxy since ive been using it and passed every time its the hydro im asking about
spens its the same for both oxy and hydro
SpENS93
04-07-2009, 05:55 AM
oh sweeeeet thx =]
Dillygirl
04-07-2009, 11:56 AM
I don't know about that, guys. A friend of mine that was living in the sober house (well, the almost-sober house) was doing hydrocodone and they tested her and it came back positive for opiates (it was a 5 panel test). Unless she was totally lying to me and doing shit besides the hydrocodone. I guess if everyone here has done it and passed then you're good, but I'd wait a couple days between last dose and the test if you can just to be on the safe side.
InstantGratification
04-07-2009, 12:03 PM
probably not i'd say, but why risk it for goddamned vicoden?
2nd post, best answuh.
lilbear
04-07-2009, 06:39 PM
I don't know about that, guys. A friend of mine that was living in the sober house (well, the almost-sober house) was doing hydrocodone and they tested her and it came back positive for opiates (it was a 5 panel test). Unless she was totally lying to me and doing shit besides the hydrocodone. I guess if everyone here has done it and passed then you're good, but I'd wait a couple days between last dose and the test if you can just to be on the safe side.
I agree with this,I do UA'S twice a month and I have a script for hydro,EVERY test I do tests possitive for opiates...
Slingblade
04-07-2009, 06:51 PM
maybe peoples bodies convert it dif. Either way, i would wait a few days to take it, well no i wouldnt cuz i didnt lol both with vics and oxys and passed. But if your worried, err on the safe side and dont pop vics before a test.
Oxyrisin2
04-07-2009, 06:52 PM
5 Panel dosen't test for hydrocodone or oxy
PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will say, that if they suspect you, they can add it to the test. but it costs more and they don't do it..
They will do a 7,10, or 12 panel to test you. Like my doctor does.He does a 12 panel that tests for everything
What is your test for!!!
The SAMHSA-5 #
Federal government guidelines (by SAMHSA-the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) require that companies which use commercial class drivers licenses for employees must have a testing system in place. Among other things, this required testing program must test for 5 specific categories of drugs (referred to as the "SAMHSA 5", previously called the "NIDA-5"). Because of this federal requirement, most drug testing companies offer a basic drug test that checks for drugs in these 5 common categories. Click on the substance name for a description of the laboratory method for detecting the substance.
Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
Phencyclidine (PCP)
SothisIsLife
04-08-2009, 12:32 AM
5 Panel dosen't test for hydrocodone or oxy
PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
Phencyclidine (PCP)
You can't be serious. this is the opiate forum...ofcourse hydrocodone is an opiate.
It is however in a specific class of opiates/opiods.
"Hydrocodone or dihydrocodeinone is a semi-synthetic opioid derived from two of the naturally occurring opiates codeine and thebaine. "
Hydrocodone does not break down into morphine it breaks down into dihydromorphinone. So unless the 5-panel test will test for hydromorphone you won't have any problems passing your test.
Also, Not all 5-panel tests are the same. You can a 5-panel test in almost any assortment you desire. The standard is listed above but that is not always what is used.
http://www.medicaldisposables.us/product.php?productid=32
Oxyrisin2
04-08-2009, 12:43 AM
Thats why it depends on what the test is for..
Spenze, what is the test for. if its for a job it won't show but if its specific it might.
So we need to know before we can help ya any further..
InstantGratification
04-08-2009, 12:45 AM
Thats why it depends on what the test is for..
Spenze, what is the test for. if its for a job it won't show but if its specific it might.
So we need to know before we can help ya any further..
You are right, dude.
This is one of those questions that U4ia would put to rest.
How many times has this issue come up and turned into a 10 page thread of nothing?
Feelings 0f U4ia is Back!
04-08-2009, 01:39 AM
hydrocodone and oxycodone will come up on a typical 12-panel drug test that is used in lab testing because oxycodone is excreted as morphine which i believe is the same way heroin is excreted so they will think you are a heroin user if it comes back positive. Usually takes oxycodone about two-three days to clear out of your system.
If its a home test (one of those piss dipsticks) you can get away with taking about 20mg-30mg/day and still piss negative. Depends on the cutoff level of the test tho...the ones i used had a cutoff level of 300 micrograms/mL for morphine.
Wrong. We have a winner for the most uneducated user on the forum already!
Oxycodone is excreted as Morphine?
Excretion of oxycodone and metabolites measured in the urine have been reported as follows: free oxycodone up to 19%, conjugated oxycodone up to 29%, free oxymorphone 0%, and conjugated oxymorphone [less than or equal to]14%. (6) Free and conjugated noroxycodone have been found in the urine but have not been quantified.
Oxymorphone yes, Morphine, no.
Oxycodone is derived from Thebaine, a minor component Opium. Morphine IS a MAJOR component of Opium. Oxycodone is semi-synthetic as well.
SothisIsLife
04-08-2009, 02:26 AM
I corrected myself in another post already
SpENS93
04-08-2009, 05:20 AM
Thats why it depends on what the test is for..
Spenze, what is the test for. if its for a job it won't show but if its specific it might.
So we need to know before we can help ya any further..
its for court i was perscribed 5/500s 30ct and i never dropped dirty for opiates
but yeah i was just asking cuz my buddys oc connect is out of town and he could only get norcos
Feelings 0f U4ia is Back!
04-08-2009, 05:41 AM
In my experience, Oxycodone will not show up. Hydrocodone has. Just my experience though.
SpENS93
04-08-2009, 05:52 AM
mine too or id be in jail right now :)
china_white
04-08-2009, 07:34 AM
uh oh I think a fight may break out
(dives under table)
Feelings 0f U4ia is Back!
04-08-2009, 08:37 AM
uh oh I think a fight may break out
(dives under table)
Between who? Lol. They will learn sooner or later.
:cheers2:
china_white
04-08-2009, 05:58 PM
haha spense man
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