Should There Been A Password Protected Forum

[shameless_heifer]

I may be from the Old School..but I happen to click on someones gallery profile and was kinda shocked to find nude pics there of a minor female..is this a porn site or a love peace and hippie site.. Should there be a password for galleries with porn in them.. like an adult section..do we want the kind of perverts that come in here to "get off" on the kids.. what are these girls thinking..it's not that hard to trace someone threw their ISP.. I don't know if I want to come to a forum that promotes kiddie porn.. but that's my choice I suppose..I thought I had found a place to settle in and be part of a family.. It saddens me to have to leave..

[celeste]

S.H. it's amazing how(I don't want to say stupid,h,m,m,) naive might work, these girls are! They're stretching their wings,on the verge of being 'grown' women,it's fun,it's flirty,oh look at me! IT'S ALSO VERY DANGEROUS!!! There are girls(folks) swiped from the face of the Earth every minute! I don't have kids and this worries the shit outa me!

[mowilde]

you were checking out my profile? i'm flattered.

[Raving Sultan]

What would the password be?

[shameless_heifer]

I wonder what their parents are doing while this goes on.. and why they would allow such premisquest behavior..maybe a suggestion to Skip would help..like a place you can post whatever but have to have proof of age type thing and a password..anybody that clicks on that gallery can see kiddie porn..kids come in here that are barly 13 and think this is how girls should act?? your kids my kids..am I being judgemental here..I dont like to look at nude children when I click on a thread..

[shameless_heifer]

of course the resident pervs would ask for the password right of the bat.. ;-)

[loveflower]

thats true.. i agree there should be a seperate place for it, i don't always want the underside of a lady greeting me good morning

[shameless_heifer]

it's not that I'm offended.. but..I'm not expecting it on a post or when I look at someones profile..it just make me feel creepy.. like someone is watching me with sticky hands..YUCKKK!!

[Raving Sultan]

Shameless, i think its time you joined the boobie thread

[Fractual_]

i don't think we have a lot to hide

[loveflower]

alex you're just saying that. we know you're worried you'd never figure out the password

[shameless_heifer]

darlin' my boobies are for private viewing only.. my husbands..I would never violate his trust like that. I don't need that kind of thrill..to me a womans "charms" are sacred and beautiful and should be at least be given to someone worthy.. not to every slimy scumsucker that may stumble across them on the internet.. who wants someone who thinks so little of themselves as to plaster their "charms" for public viewing.. to bring home to sunday supper.. you just making your self a cum hole for pervs (sorry.. yuck)..I dont take offence to nudity..if it's done in artful" way..but it's demeaning to women in this form and thats one of the things we faught against in the 60s/70s..I'm sure most of the other "women" feel this way..it's a sad time when ten yr olds get the idea that this is, what being hip or cool is.. these are MINOR GIRLS and it's against the law and it SHOULD be.. I dont apologise for my beliefs.. but I do apologise if I did it in a crude manner..

[Raving Sultan]

These kids are always after me lucky charms!

[shameless_heifer]

I thought I'd get more responce, I guess that iok.. who am I to judge.. sooo if ya can't best 'em join 'em.. (*)(*) and (_y_) till the wheels fall off.. hahahaha... hey I can laff at my self..

[Orsino2]

I think it's just something you have to deal with... I mean... I feel the same way, I used to work with http://www.perverted-justice.com

[teepi]

I agree, there are way too many mixed messages sent to kids about sexuality and respecting yourself and others.
If there is something you have caome across and question on the forum then take the issue up with Skip...I would hate for this forum to be shut down because of something ilegal going on here, and child porn is illegal.

I have no problem with nudity, if it is
a.a way of life
b.tastefully done in an artful way
c.its done for your own pleasure,your of age and its not going to be exploited in any
way.

The attitude of so many young people is that they have only this to offer,to get people to like them, to get things they want, to be accepted.
They don't understand that by not demanding respect from themselves towards themselves and respect from others, they are perpetuating disrespect.

This is also a reason I don't go on alot of the forums here, I find them offensive to me, but as long as there is nothing illegal being done then I just wish them well, and go on my way,
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

people can do what they want.. i'm not trying to judge really.. I was just shocked to see it on a thread..it was an underaged girls vagina..I'm not a prude but there's a time and place.. and like teepi said.. artfully, tastefully..kids don't realize the reprecussions of their action sometimes innocently breaking the law..I dont want to come in here and try to cause problems or change things..I'm not trying to act holyer then thou.. and everything I say in here is to help.. not to condem or make harsh judgement.. I'd just like to have some 'porn free' places to go and be comfortable..I suppose I am old minded.. but I have an old mind..I think I'll keep out of certain forums.. but then I'll not be able to converse with the young ones.. how will we teach them..how will we reach them...sigh..

[Nathan11]

Sister, if you're talking about whom I think you are, the girl is 17, and it's not technically porn. According to the American law on porn, child porn is only sexual acts performed by or engaged by minors. Just showing their body isn't porn.

But you're right, there should be some way to limit this, little children (like our new resident 10 year old) shouldn't be exposed to this at such a young age...

[shameless_heifer]

Nathan.. that's all I'm really saying.. the young are watching.. if this is the 'norm' then I see a very sad road for the young girls ahead..the abused and degradation.. the disease and poverty that our baby girls may be facing in this immorale world.. there are some real sickos out there..when your over 50 you see things differently esp when your looking at your grandaughters sweet innocent faces.. trusting you to make the world safe for them..its a heavy load to carry.. this right from wrong thing..no one makes the right dicissions all the time.. but when you know it's wrong and still do it.. well then that's just plain sick..I'm mean spiritualy sick..

[shameless_heifer]

porn is porn.. she's showing it now at 17 what will her life be like when she's 25... if she lives that long.. and it's not just about her.. I dont know her.. I cant judge her motives..it about the lax morals kids have today.. even hippies have self decency.. and some moral fiber when it come to the youngers.. if they dont.. they should have..

[sugarmaggie]

When I see that I think wow..what a low self esteem she must have. I'll never need approval from perfect strangers that bad, or anyone else for that matter. A couple of months ago I almost took a job stripping. I'm a single mom who gets absolutely no help financially. The money sounded so good, so I agreed to go to the club and sit in to see what it's like. Definately not for me. I am in no way condemning anyone who does this..a woman's gotta do what a woman's gotta do..personally, I just couldn't do it. Things like that should be done for your man alone to enjoy. Nudity is a beatiful thing, don't get me wrong. It just depends on how you choose to expose it...and the internet really isn't the place. Of course you're gonna get compliments posting your vagina on your profile..damn..lol What about posting that pretty face instead??

[sugarmaggie]

I may be from the Old School..but I happen to click on someones gallery profile and was kinda shocked to find nude pics there of a minor female..is this a porn site or a love peace and hippie site.. Should there be a password for galleries with porn in them.. like an adult section..do we want the kind of perverts that come in here to "get off" on the kids.. what are these girls thinking..it's not that hard to trace someone threw their ISP.. I don't know if I want to come to a forum that promotes kiddie porn.. but that's my choice I suppose..I thought I had found a place to settle in and be part of a family.. It saddens me to have to leave..

By the way, you can't leave. I love you and enjoy reading your thoughts too much!! :p

[MattInVegas]

I may be from the Old School..but I happen to click on someones gallery profile and was kinda shocked to find nude pics there of a minor female..is this a porn site or a love peace and hippie site.. Should there be a password for galleries with porn in them.. like an adult section..do we want the kind of perverts that come in here to "get off" on the kids.. what are these girls thinking..it's not that hard to trace someone threw their ISP.. I don't know if I want to come to a forum that promotes kiddie porn.. but that's my choice I suppose..I thought I had found a place to settle in and be part of a family.. It saddens me to have to leave..
Don't go. Send Skip an email about it. He'll get rid of that crap FAST!

[teepi]

Good for you SUGARM,

Life can be so hard and often we get to a place where we do have to make tough choices, however its not always about the money.You knew you had to answer to yourself and you were very wise.

I did dance for a short time, illegally...I was underage, I never felt right about it and when it started not being about dancing but started being about how I was viewed by what I was doing I realized these men where not there just to have me dance for them, they viewed me as nothing but a body there for their pleasure and if I was willing to do that...I must be willing to do other things.
It took me about a week and I walked away from it. The whole atmosphere was very seedy to me, bars,drunks,drugs,.....and the other things, there were women I met who supplemented their income by going with these men into their cars and into the restroom with them and the whole thing creeped me out.
I never took my clothes off and never showed anything other than what was outside my bikini, I danced on the Navel base in Norfolk.
But they yelled for "tittyshots" and I wouldn't so I probably would not have lasted long anyway.

Now that being said........a few years before this dancing took place,in 1970-71, I lived on communal land at Earth Peoples Park in Vermont. I wore a loincloth or cutoff jeans in the warm weather and nothing else except flowers in my hair....but at the time it was a way of life, some of us went naked, some topless some clothed, we were free to do as we wanted, but it was a different environment and a totally different vibe.

Thing is we all have to be careful and responsible for the choices we make and willing to pay the consequences for the unwise ones.But the beauty of it all is, we can learn from every choice, good and bad.

Good judgement comes from experience...
experience comes from bad judgement.

Or something like that...
teepi

[Southernman]

FZ: Ladies and Gentlemen while they're fixing the amplifiers: The Sanzini Brothers!

The Sanzini Brothers!

Ho hut
You motherfucker
You shove it up your ass
Lou Jacobi
Lou it Jacobi

Penis dimension
Penis dimension

Penis dimension is worrying me
I can't hardly sleep at night
Cause of Penis dimension

Do you worry?
Do you worry a lot?
Do you worry?
Do you worry and moan . . .
That the size of your cock,
Is not monstrous enough?
It's your Penis dimension!
Penis dimension!
Wa oo wa oo wa oo wa
Wa oo wa oo wa oo wa

Mark: Hiya friends. Did you ever consider the possibility that YOUR PENIS, and in the case of many dignified ladies, that the size of the titties themselves might provide elements of subconscious tension! Weird, twisted anxieties that could force a human being as yourself to have to become a politician, a policeman, a Jesuit Monk . . .
FZ: Dominus Vobiscum et cum spiritu tuo.
Mark: A policeman!
FZ: Do it again
Mark: A policeman!
FZ: More, more . . . And that too
Mark: A rock and roll guitar player, a bass player, a wino . . . . you name it!
FZ: Hey you sit down and be quiet this is a teen-age rock & roll program!
Mark: And, in the case of the ladies, the ones that can't afford a silicone beef-up, they become writers of hot books . . .
Howard: Manuel, the gardener, placed his burning phallus in her quivering quim . . .
Mark: Or they become Carmelite Nuns . . .
Howard: Gonzo, the lead guitar player, placed his mutated member in her slithering slit . . . hu hu hu.
Mark: Or they become race horse jockeys! Now there's no reason why you or your loved ones should suffer about the size of their organs. There are enough problems in this damn world today, am I right?
Howard: Right on! Right on!
Mark: If you're a girl and you're troubled with munchkin tits, you can console yourself with this age-old line from primary school, help me out brothers:
Mark & Howard: 'Anything over a mouthful is wasted!'
Mark: Yes, yes. And if you're a guy and you're a guy and you're ashamed about the size of your dick. {Volman points at someone} Ladies & Gentlemen, a prime example.

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Howard: Twelve centimeters or less?
Mark: He is a lonely guy. And this happens to you while you're at the party. Well let me tell you brothers & sisters, that's the time when you gotta turn around and look that Son-of-a-bitch right between the eyes. And you gotta tell him some words that could help him, some words that would show him that there's a better live than the one he's leaving-living . . . And right now I'm gonna ask my brother Jeff Simmons behind me here, to help us all in this moment by telling them all these words . . . Thank you very much Ladies & Gentlemen.

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These words:
What's between your legs
Is just the last few inches of a complex mechanism which runs up and down our spinal chord and all up to the human brain.
Which if used correctly can effectively increase the dimension and the firepower of your dick to the point where, in some instances....

Wa oo wa oo wa oo wa

Howard: It could be classified as a LETHAL WEAPOn

Mark: Ladies and Gentlemen how about a nice big round of applause for a LETHAL WEAPON !!!!!!
We want you all to sing along with us. Fill this hall with the sound of your voices. Everybody sing Penis Dimension

Penis Dimension
Penis Dimension
Penis Dimension is worrying me
I can't hardly sleep at night
Cause of Penis Dimension
Penis Dimension
Penis Dimension
Wa oo wa oo wa oo wa

[shameless_heifer]

I'm not gonna comment on that last post.. cuz I don't know what the hell it means..lol..but I do know love and caring when I see it..I'm gonna hang out and help make a change.. cuz ya know..if ya aint part of the solution yer part of the problem..I don't want to be part of the problem..I wanna be part of the solution.. I see a lot of work ahead if we gonna make a difference in this crazy planet we live on..Blessed Be.. Love you all.. huggggssssss..

[Orsino2]

ummmm... ok.. so... yeah... penis demension. (wtf?)

[teepi]

Southernman....Did you get lost out in the garden again???

Shameless...good, and you're right.


If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got.
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

me tinks southernman has taken one toke too many..lmaoo.. my my my..

[luvndrumn]

me tinks southernman has taken one toke too many..lmaoo.. my my my..

Naaaaaaaah (but then again - upon reflection...), he's just quoting Frank (the) Zappa, who asked that musical question "What's The Ugliest Part Of Your Body".



hmmmmmm... Is there such a thing as one toke too many?

[shameless_heifer]

I haven't found it to be too many.. but then again.. I've had too many to judge...lol..

[teepi]

NEVER one toke too many...although there is 'one toke over the line'.

Oh yeah, just wanted to remind everyone,what with winter just around the corner...."watch out where the huskies go."

teepi

[luvndrumn]

NEVER one toke too many...although there is 'one toke over the line'.
Guess that's why I like to color outside the line.:X

[teepi]

So..thats what that means...lol

[luvndrumn]

So..thats what that means...lol
Itz poss eh bull, itz poss eh bull...

Now doncha go whippin on my baby seal with a lead-filled snowshoe




YA HEAR??!!!

[teepi]

Hey Punk, where you goin' with that flower in your hand?
Hey Punk, where you goin' with that flower in your hand?

Well, I'm goin' up to Frisco to join a psychedelic band.
I'm goin' up to Frisco to join a psychedelic band.

Hey Punk, where you goin' with that button on your shirt?
Hey Punk, where you goin' with that button on your shirt?

I'm goin' to the love-in to sit & play my bongos in the dirt.
Yes, I'm goin' to the love-in to sit & play my bongos in the dirt.

Hey Punk, where you goin' with that hair on your head?
Hey Punk, where you goin' with that hair on your head?

I'm goin' to the dance to get some action, then I'm goin' home to bed.
I'm goin' to the dance to get some action, then I'm goin' home to bed.

Hey Punk, where you goin' with those beads around your neck?
Hey Punk, where you goin' with those beads around your neck?

I'm goin' to the shrink so he can help me be a nervous wreck . . .

[luvndrumn]

I'm goin' to the shrink so he can help me be a nervous wreck . . .
Or should that be so that he can be a metal toss flycune?


Yes he am...




Yippy Yi Yo Ti Yay!!

[purplesage]

I'm shocked about it myself, but to put it in perspective - out of the thousands of members on this site, to my knowledge only one girl has done this. She is probably just one of those chicks who will appear in Playboy one day. There are plenty of willing participants for such things. She may suffer some very bad consequences but I hope she doesn't, for her sake.

[gdhmomchild]

I know whatcha mean Shameless, I don't come here to see pix of chicks screaming for that kinda attention either. Get that same kinda mentality in the chatroom too. Little girls that have found some kinda power in their sexuality. I know this subject has been brought up before in the old complaints forum. The password is a good idea and hasnt been brought up though as far as I know. One thing to remember though, the age of consent is also different in different places. In the Netherlands I think its 16...
I really hate digusting/annoying sig pics. Hasn't been so many as of late tho

[RetroGroove_Grrl]

The only problem I see with all of this showing is that, yes, there have been minors posting on the boobie and even vagina thread, prolly the penis one too, now, this is a problem, not only for them becuase its dangerous and possibly going to bite them on the bum, but it is also dangeous for the forum owners and for the people veiwing the threads because yes, its illegal.

I think us youngins are probably of the point of view that its a body and everyone has one, why should they not have the right to show it if they like. I know the pics I have posted are less showing than those you would find in a depatment store catalouge on the lingere page, or on the beach.

but there are certain rules when it comes to genitals that really should be maintaned. In my opinion, nudity is something other than a closeup shot of your privates.

[sugarmaggie]

In my opinion, nudity is something other than a closeup shot of your privates.
Well said RetroGroove..;)

[teepi]

Well said RetroGroove..;)
I agree also, I have painted nudes and semi-nudes, the form of the human body in my opinion is beautiful.

Even the genitals are beautiful, Geaorgia O'keefe's flowers are a beautiful example of the inspiration they hold.

But genitals are like a beautiful secret, to be shared in an intimate, loving way.

Nothing wrong with a little mystery and having a part of your self like heifer said...something about for the pleasure and sharing with your loving one.

[Southernman]

me tinks southernman has taken one toke too many..lmaoo.. my my my..
I wished, I had the money to take one toke to many ;)

No, I quoted this, because from my (old) European point of view, it's ridicolous, to call this few pics here child porn and by reading this thread I remembered this song from 200 Motels, especially where it mentions 'elements of subconscious tension' and 'Weird, twisted anxieties'.
Some of you would get serious problems by visiting Old Europe. If this here is allready child porn, what's that, what is here quite normal, topless bathing ladies at nearly every public beach, nude men and women on tv and in newpapers, nobody cares and no weeklong excitement throughout the whole nation, because of one nearly nude tit on tv. But I like this special US-American attitude to morality, haven one toke or not, allways a reason for a good laughter ;)
When I visited Florida in 1996 the 1st time, I was told, I should wear on the beaches trousers, called Shorts here and not the normal european swimming trunks, because this would be obscene. What happens, if one would wear a string-tanga, would he/she be arrested?

Hey Schameless, how about a toke, to get a little bit relaxed?

[teepi]

My opinions on this were based on the laws of this country.
I would hate to see the forums shut down for anything done ignorantly by someone deemed to be underage.
It happens.
My opinions are also based on how I view self-respect...as you can see in my previous posts I have at times been a partial nudist.

But to have an underage person disrespecting themselves and not realizing the attitudes of our modern society and the mess that is there, is sad.
Like I said alot of young people have a very blase' attitude about putting themselves out there, doing it for acceptance, validation,etc. and that is sad also.

It is sad too that we are so hung up in this country but it seems that there are alot of adults in this country that don't respect the crossing of the adult/child world.

It is different in other countries, but those attitudes have been allowed to grow into the culture, people are not as uptight.
I would be curious to know about adult/child crime rate.
Its probably not as high as in this country, when people grow up with a way of life it is mellowed over time, nudity is looked at as something natural, not something to get worked up over.
Lucky Europeans.
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

I don't know where you come from but we in the south like our child clothed for the learing eyes of perverts and child molesters..and muderers.. if you don't agree to that it's your choice..I choose to live here where the kids wear covering..the beach is fine for getting nude but I dont want to see it in the supermarkets....I'm not uptight.. I have morals and if you find them funny.. again that's your choice..but I'm not alone in my thinking..I'll fight to the death to keep my grandkids from being masturbated at as they go nakid..no thank you please..beside the sanitary side of it would be better served by being covered..your free to think as you like.. so am I.. you being a man I expect you to have different feelings on nudity.. but from where I sit.it's degrading to the female to be used as a object of masterbation.. fuck that..

[Southernman]

Shameless, let's take a toke and calm down a little bit ;)

Oh, yeah perverts everywhere. I keep my son away from this too. And about the danger, the forums be shut down because of this child porn, the forums are hosted on servers in the Netherlands and as far, as GWB doesn't decide, to attack the Netherlands, there is no danger.
What do you think, from where comes the most industrial produced hardcore porn? There is the point, where the fight should begin.

[shameless_heifer]

southernman.. if you've read my post in the forums you know I'm not a pussyfooter.. I get to the gut of things I have little time to beat round the bush..I tell it as it is channeled through me.. I'm blunt and to the point.. and I am do be faced as we speak..it's all good..I just dont think an open forum where children hang out should be plastered with naked pictures of girls genitals.. or boys for that matter..but that's just me.. Peace.

[shameless_heifer]

I just got a bad rep from backtothelab on this thread(at least he had the balls to sign)..I'm appearently a puritan or some such nonsense..bad rep me away whomever.. I don't care.. reps are not important in life.. good grief.. flame away..it matters little in the big picture..I call it like I see it.. your name calling changes nothing..I am grown up and in my cronehood I doubt if the same goes for backtothelab...

[shameless_heifer]

Retro girl.. you got it covered.. opps no pun intended...lmaoooo

[backtothelab]

And I call it like I see it. I thought this whole thread was pretty fucking stupid, I just did'nt want to raise a dying thread(or what I thought was dead at the time) about something I don't really want to argue about.

[shameless_heifer]

who's arguing..if you don't like it in here dont post.. what can I tell ya sweetie..women think differently about these things than men do.. the mars venus thing..I'm not condeming nudity.. just kiddie pron..you don't have to agree with me or disagree..I wont respond to flaming.. I tought we had gotten rid of that..sweetie your 17.. you views will change when you become an adult and have kids of your own.. belive me.. you will change your mind..

[teepi]

I think the rep thing is kind of stupid.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and welcome to voice it here on these forums, it would be boring if everyone in the world totally agreed with everyone else, it would also hold up alot of original ideas and progress.

And alot of young men would think that anyone squelching the idea of nudie pics is stupid, they spend alot of time thinking along those lines.

Ah, but the young will grow....and maybe even mature.
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

we can only hope teepi... huggssss.. I don't know what I'd do without you guy n gals in here..

[luvndrumn]

I think the rep thing is kind of stupid.
Y'know, the dang thing can be turned off.;) And I turned mine off after I got a bad rep from someone for seemingly "not knowing what I was talking about".:rolleyes: At first I thought nothing of it, but every time I opened up my profile, there it was like an albatros. So I de-activated the feature... it's all good now.

And shameless, if it's off, they gotta at least PM you, that is, if they don't have the balls to come out in the thread.:X

[seamonster66]

This site is from Amsterdam...American rules don't apply....17 is considered an adult in Holland

and I must say, this thread is pretty puritanical, especially coming from old hippies.....the pics were not pornography.

[teepi]

Never saw the pics, just commenting on the jist of the thread.

I am not puritanical, just concerned about people taking women seriously and of course there is also the respect thing.

Alot of women and men have different opinions on this.

What I said about kids not holding themselves responsible still holds,don't know what its like over there, maybe you don't have jr. high school girls wearing different colored plastic bracelets that represent what they are willing to do sexually.

So yeah I have opinions on this issue.
I'm a woman, with a daughter, and maybe future grand daughters.
And I have a son and he's gotten mixed messages all his life about women, I have taught him all about respect so its confusing to him when they don't even respect themselves.

This country could stand to tone it all down a bit.
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

we are pure.. we want the women of this planet to be free from that kind of treatment.. we are not just here to please men.. and as I said before.. most men would disagree with this thread..I know the difference between porn and nudity..would you want your daughters or sisters posting their underaged vaginas over the internet??
if this is ok with you then I fear for your daughters.. and for your soul..do you like to look at little girls/boys privates?? if you do you should be arrested.. to thine own self be true..I would seek out and distroy anyone salavating over my 12 yr old grand daughters.. uhhggg I can't even type it..I see red just thinking about it.. Grrrr..
Ooohhhmmmmmmmmm!!!. HOLY SPIRIT HOLY SPIRIT HOLY SPIRIT...

[seamonster66]

I understand where you are coming from with the early sexualization of children, this was not an example of that however.....

I would think this would qualify more as naturalism or nudism...something I did not think would shock self described hippies.Like i said heffer, this is a european website, and you have puritan american values...plus you seem absolutely crazy.

I am not defending these pics because i am sexually excited by them, more because I am disappointed in you.

[teepi]

Y'know, the dang thing can be turned off.;) And I turned mine off after I got a bad rep from someone for seemingly "not knowing what I was talking about".:rolleyes: At first I thought nothing of it, but every time I opened up my profile, there it was like an albatros. So I de-activated the feature... it's all good now.

And shameless, if it's off, they gotta at least PM you, that is, if they don't have the balls to come out in the thread.:X

You don't know what you're talking about.


























haha.....
love,
teepi

[luvndrumn]

You don't know what you're talking about.
haha.....
love,
teepi

:p:p:p



lurvs ya back...

[teepi]

I love absoulutely crazy women!!!!

[shameless_heifer]

gee.. now there's a real shocker.. me crazy... hahahahahahaahahahahahaha.. well.. so what..if not wanting to look at childrens shaved vaginas with my morning tea and that's normal or accepted.. then THANK GODDESS I'm crazy..
I absolutly luv teepi!!..

[seamonster66]

well whatever, I don;'t really consider 17 to be a child, and its not in most countries, plus, as stated previously, there was nothing pornographic in those pics


You are conservative perhaps.

You seem to have more texan in you than hippie. It seems that very liberal people often do gravitate to the other side with time.

What were you doing looking into 17 year old grls galleries anyway?

[shameless_heifer]

which site are you talking about.. Hippie Planet from holland??? noo.. I was under the impression that this site was an american made site.. I could be wrong about that and kiddie porn is leagel..if so..and things have gotten that far without me knowing it.. then please shoot me now..

[teepi]

I love abSOULutely crazy old texan hippie women!!!!!!

[seamonster66]

This site is based in Amsterdam. It USED to be based in the US.

Besides, before you said you knew the difference between porn and nudism, and now you have forgotten that, and are calling the pics porn.

[Lucifer Sam]

Aww, come on, people. You know you like looking at moon_flower's hot body. :D

[shameless_heifer]

lol.. now I'm peeking at girls.. ohh myyy.. lmaooo.. for your information.. people do look at profiles to see who they're talking too..and futhermore it wasnt in her profile that I saw it.. it was on a thread as a sig.. ok..it looked gross.. and it looked wierd all shaved funny..had to look for a sec to know what it was..and then it made me feel dirty.. like I was in a sex room.. I come here to get away from that sort of thing.. so that makes me a crazy purtain.. and a texas conservative..well well I don't know what I'm gonna do now that I'm crazy..

[dangermoose]

porn is porn.. she's showing it now at 17 what will her life be like when she's 25... if she lives that long..


:eek: :confused:
your on crack lady.
she shows her body at 17, which means she'll probably be dead by 25....wow...just....wow.
did you know that the legal age of consent in canada is 14!! :eek:

geuss all the young women of canada will die off in the next couple years, and candians will vanish as a people...ya know...thats probably what happened to the mayans and the aztecs....they probably had a big show and tell at 17 then by 25....they were all dead

oh such tragedy.

[seamonster66]

It seems you have your own issues, things from your past, if siimply looking at a naked body freaks you out so much.

I'm not sure if you realize it, but many women shave their vaginal region to some degree.

Shows how open minded and accepting you are...things are either your way, or they are wrong. It wasn't even "shaved weird."

[shameless_heifer]

soulreb .. it's not that hot..would you want you daughter posing for a bunch of pervs like yourself and the seamonster..

[seamonster66]

I'm a perv because I don't see anything wrong with a simple pic of a naked body...its not like i masturbated or anything, i didn't even view it as sexual in any way.

You are a flake, and severly damaged somewhere along the line.

peace and love my ass, where do you get off calling me a perv?

[shameless_heifer]

hey your the one yelling.. chill..I think he protests too much.. all men are pervs.. good grief..
I thought this was common knowledge..you have the right to your opinion.. and I have the right to mine.. lets agree to disagree on this subject and not declare war.. there's enough violance going on around us.. lets not bring it in here..

[seamonster66]

Thats totally offensive, all men are not "pervs,"

I wonder how you would feel if i made some ridiculous generalization about women?

[shameless_heifer]

soul should know I was teasing about being pervs... lighten up dude..laff it off if your not a perv..no harm to you intended

[seamonster66]

You lighten up...thats been my whole point in this thread, stop making absolutely ridiculous claims about someone being dead at 25 because they posted a nude pic when they were 17. Stop calling her vagina "shaved weird." Stop accusing me of being a pervert.

[shameless_heifer]

men are not pervs...???? where do you live again.. mars..ohhh c'on.. cop a smile..

[shameless_heifer]

no no and no..

[seamonster66]

I don't subscribe to that men are from mars, women are from venus stuff.

Some men are pervs, most men like sex, but I didn't really like the context of your accusation...
I mean, of course girls are posting nude pics, since all females are sluts

[Lucifer Sam]

Damn, seamonster, you rock. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon14.gif Put her in her place.

[seamonster66]

heh, I'm not trying to put her down.....she is just saying irritating things that get on my nerves.

[Lucifer Sam]

heh, I'm not trying to put her down.....she is just saying irritating things that get on my nerves.
Haha, well, I didn't mean that I wanted you to put her down or anything, just show the error(s) of her current thinking process. :)http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon14.gif

[shameless_heifer]

I can think what I want and as far as I know we still hold the 1st ammendment to freedom of speach..I can say what I want.. and btw a lot of people had a hard time idenifing what that large gap was between her legs.. if you want to get tech about it.. it wasn't in good taste to post it on a thread as a sig..we were forced to see it without our permission..do you see what I'm saying.. it should have been posted as a URL or something..not forced on us..we should have the right to see it or not to see it.. that's why I'm asking if there should be a forum with a password where only adults can go in and post what nudity they want.... and YOU make the choice if you want to go in or not..you have the freedom to do what thy will BUT harm none..so you missed my point entirely..

[seamonster66]

It was in a thread advertising nudity, why did you go in there since you clearly can't handle a naked body.

[shameless_heifer]

and sam.. just where would my 'place' be prey tell.. are you dising me because I'm a woman.. you'd better step lightly there young man.. you dare go where angels fear to tread.. there's a lot of women in here.. come put me in my place manchild..

[shameless_heifer]

jester you know it.. men are slut puppies.. I never said all men dig kiddie porn tho.. I know that's not true.. I suppose that ones I offended have no little girls of their own..but when and if thay are so blessed.. I hope they remember this thread..
Blessed Be

[seamonster66]

stop acting like such a bad ass lady.

Next point, why would a nudity thread need to be password protected, while the rest of the forums, where such topics as anal sex, IV drugs, beastiality, etc are left open....why not make everyone be at least 18 to come in here, and force probably half of the people here to leave, and effectively end the forums.

Good thinking.

Or maybe we could get a censorer, someone who just goes around and removes anything that anyone at all finds offensive....leaving maybe the Christianity thread, nope wait, too much debate there...it would have to go too.

[shameless_heifer]

seamonster it was on a sig in a post in a thread that was not in the show me threads..it was a normal type thread not about sex or boobies or penis's or vaginas.. what I have to look at someones snatch weather I want to or not??? WTF.. NO and hey.. it wasnt even her post.. someone took her pic from her gallery and posted it as a sig.. can you agree at least that I have a right not to see it if I dont want to..??

[teepi]

I agree completely with this, but i would like to add
that none of these girls are being exploited, they are making a contious decision, they know people will be looking at them.... i know i dont want to look at some 13 y/o's niether region.

but It isn't my place to tell this girl not to do this, its her body, her choice.... we are the youth, and as history so blantantly shows, the more you oppress the youth the more they will go to the extreme, i personaly don't see anything wrong with nudity, its not like there pictures of lil girls having sex or anything......if the older girls can do this what's wrong with the younger?... these are societys rules.....

and yes, i may be only 17 and i may be a male, but for u to say that the hippys fought against things like this in the 60s and 70s, then ur off ur rocker maam, the true hippys were all for free expression, there is nothing wrong with the human form, it is a beautifull thing... they true hippys fought against people oppressing them from doing what they wanted to do.... they didnt dictate how others should act... as long as its all done in fun and love......

as for perverts.... there a fact of life... we can't live our lives in fear, or we're not truly living..... we're hiding....

i personaly think the world would be a better place if we could all jus run bare ass naked down the streets... but no..... thats not socaily exeptable... "its a shame to bare the body"<--thats bs

shameless.... i totaly respect you for what your saying, the youth do need to be protected... but u can't protect them from everything.... the more u tighten the lease, the more they will fight against you.... u were a child once too, im sureu can understand what i mean......Hi Insane,
When I read that you say I had posted that this is what we fought for in the 60's and 70's i took a few minutes to go back and read all my posts here and saw nothing about this in any of my posts.

As far as the body being a beautiful form...read my post #16 where i speak of painting the body.

And as far as free expression read my post #24 where I post about living on a commune and going topless.

I never saw the picture in question as stated in another post of mine, I have given what is strictly my opinion on young women and the choices they sometimes make.
I have never typed the word perv till this very moment here.

I think you may have gotten some of my posts and anothers mixed up.

I never oppressed my kids, just taught them that they had to own their choices and that while they were under age i was responsible for them and to treat others as they would want to be treated.

Children do need guidance, once you are of age your parents are no longer your managers, but hopefully they will be your consultants.
teepi

[Lucifer Sam]

are you dising me because I'm a woman..
Haha, no, I'm not. I'm "dising" you because you're being an ass. Simple as that. Don't try to turn someone noticing your stupidity into a sexist argument.

you'd better step lightly there young man.. you dare go where angels fear to tread.. there's a lot of women in here.. come put me in my place manchild..
HAHAHA! That's hilarious. Seriously... amazing.

men are slut puppies
OH! But I'm the one being sexist. :rolleyes:

[shameless_heifer]

because it's iileagle and I dont want this site shut down..and young kids ages 10 shouldn't be seeing it.. and futhermore the other threads dont post a penis sticking in an ass.. or a pic of a needle stuck off in some kids arm.. so sue me.. that's what I think and YOU won't change my mind.. if this thread irritates you dont expose your self to it.. it's your choice..

[lover/young_peace]

Let it be. :)

[backtothelab]

This is why I like rep pts. I can just tell someone to stfu and don't have to worry about all this other shit. Seamonster--right on brotha!

[shameless_heifer]

sam your a known trouble maker.. you are like a flea..small and energy sucking..take your flamethrower and shove it..ok.. peace small one..

[lover/young_peace]

sam your a known trouble maker.. you are like a flea..small and energy sucking..take your flamethrower and shove it..ok.. peace small one..
No he really isn't, and I think although most of you had valid points to begin with, they are getting lost in the insult game.

So drop the personal insults, everybody, and at least try to discuss the issue like civilized adults.

[shameless_heifer]

rep away it means nothing..you cannot harm me in any way..all you big ol strong men.. ha!! takes three of you to take on one old hippie granny.. hahahaha big bad men wooo I'm intimidated..

[Lucifer Sam]

sam your a known trouble maker.. you are like a flea..small and energy sucking..take your flamethrower and shove it..ok.. peace small one..
I think everyone knows that you are the absolute worst person on here to argue with. 100% of your posts are full of shit. You always preach peace, but you start more arguments than almost anybody. I've argued with you before, and it was a complete waste of my time, so I will happily leave and no longer address your retarded excuses for posts.

[shameless_heifer]

young lover.. look see when the shit got stired and who was doing the stiring.. this was a peaceful thread with everyone expressing their feeling in a civilized manner.. a few jokes were made and I will defend my stand till the death of me..I do it for the children.. some one has to..

[lover/young_peace]

Act like adults... please?

If I ask nicely will somebody listen? :)

[lover/young_peace]

young lover.. look see when the shit got stired and who was doing the stiring.. this was a peaceful thread with everyone expressing their feeling in a civilized manner.. a few jokes were made and I will defend my stand till the death of me..I do it for the children.. some one has to..
Only I don't think you two are argueing about the nudity issue anymore. I'm not asking you to change your beliefs, you have a right to your own opionion, however I AM asking you all to not personally attack eachother.

[Lucifer Sam]

I do it for the children.. some one has to..
Oh, shut up. You're not a fucking martyr. You're a whiny bitch, and that's that.

[teepi]

Now Shameless you know that there are numerous younger people here who just come in the name of rileing up an older person.
You can't make a point with them without the dander rising up.

Like I've said before they will find their way.
Or play like hell trying to.

I talk to quite a few off the forum and it is a way for them to do what they would never do to someone's face, a way to get away with being immature and not held accountable.
They don't care about the respect issues only that they can piss you off.
Thing is alot of them are great people off the forum.

I had my posts get mixed up with other posts here and was misquoted and told i was off my rocker......I tried to set the record straight and now that all this has been reduced to name calling and trying to hurt feelings i am done, no longer an interest of mine as I don't get into name calling and hurting others for the sake of being mean.

Love to everyone of you whether you want it or not...
teepi

[Orsino2]

oh god.... this is turning into a pissing match.

[shameless_heifer]

I was joking with jester about slut puppies. and he knew it..I didn't open this thread for argumentiveness..I was asking a question..if retard is all you have give it up.. it's lame..and to come in here just to flame isn't offering and alternative..it's just picking words apart and critisizing every one of them..that's not construtive behavior.. it's childish.. I have yet to see sam have a civil conversation with anyone one but young girls..not that I care what sam does.. I rrely think of sam till he rears his ugly talking head.. I have no use for a flame thrower, isn't that a weapon of war??

[shameless_heifer]

teepi .. your intirely right.. this got way distorted..and I apologise for flying to close to the ground.. I'm done also.. drain drain..

[lover/young_peace]

I was joking with jester about slut puppies. and he knew it..I didn't open this thread for argumentiveness..I was asking a question..if retard is all you have give it up.. it's lame..and to come in here just to flame isn't offering and alternative..it's just picking words apart and critisizing every one of them..that's not construtive behavior.. it's childish.. I have yet to see sam have a civil conversation with anyone one but young girls..not that I care what sam does.. I rrely think of sam till he rears his ugly talking head.. I have no use for a flame thrower, isn't that a weapon of war??
Of course, there is nothing wrong with young girls. :)

Please, please, please. Stop this. ALL of you.

"You're a bitch"
"You're ugly"

^^ Do these have anything to do with what we are talking about? No, they really don't. So insults are completely un-nessacary.

I love you people, but... *sigh*

[lover/young_peace]

teepi .. your intirely right.. this got way distorted..and I apologise for flying to close to the ground.. I'm done also.. drain drain..
maybe it'd be best to try and start over? :)

[Lucifer Sam]

I was joking with jester about slut puppies. and he knew it..
Multiple times you said that "all men are pervs." You're the one being sexist, not I.

to come in here just to flame isn't offering and alternative..it's just picking words apart and critisizing every one of them..
Actually, I came in here basically saying that I didn't mind moon_flower and pink floyd's naked photos. Then I gave seamonster a pat on the back. You then proceeded to flame me.

that's not construtive behavior.. it's childish..
Yes, you're right, you are childish.

I have yet to see sam have a civil conversation with anyone one but young girls..
HAHAHAHA! Ok, ok, ok... First of all, what are you trying to insinuate? That I come here to meet young girls? Pff, how the fuck would you know? I'm sure you don't go through my posts are read them all. I don't converse with "young girls" anymore than anyone else.

I rrely think of sam till he rears his ugly talking head..
Well, you can rest blissfully knowing that I don't give two shits about you, either. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon14.gif

[Orsino2]

I just say deal with it all... I deal with negative things in my life. I break down from time to time, but it's all good... learn to live with things. And this isn't being said in a "chauvanist pig" manner... this is being said in a non-pissing match manner.

[backtothelab]

With all due respect(to shameless and especially teepi) everyone just shut the fuck up already.






edit: not telling you to shut up teepi, but that I respect you as an elder alot more than the other women on the site.

[Lucifer Sam]

I just say deal with it all... I deal with negative things in my life. I break down from time to time, but it's all good... learn to live with things. And this isn't being said in a "chauvanist pig" manner... this is being said in a non-pissing match manner.
Actually, that was perfectly said. So you see a naked photo... who cares? Deal with it. Some of you people are acting like the idiots who blew the Janet Jackson thing way out of proportion...

[lover/young_peace]

Derek, hun, please, don't fight anymore with her. It's not worth it, nobody's proving anything anymore.

For me? :)

[Lucifer Sam]

If the "Old Hippies" forum was a building, I'd fly a plane into it. :D

[lover/young_peace]

If the "Old Hippies" forum was a building, I'd fly a plane into it. :D
Are you purposely trying to embarrass me? :confused:

[Lucifer Sam]

Are you purposely trying to embarrass me? :confused:
Haha, no... o_O

[moon_flower]

Shaved weird...because I don't like a tree poking out of whatever I'm wearing? Funny...
I'm 17. I didn't have a cock hanging out of my pussy. It isn't porn.
I will not be dead by 25 for showing my pussy. Trust me.

Thanks Sam and Gary. (I think that's your name)

[moon_flower]

I don't think of myself as a child. I don't think my thread should have been erased because a few of you were pissed about it. I think I'm beautiful and I don't care to share that with the world. I'm sure you hippies were naked for the world to see, right? What's the difference? Because most of you were stoned out of your minds and regret it?

[shameless_heifer]

look none of you are wanting see the real issue here.. the point that I was trying to make was that we were force to see it..we should have a choice as to what we look at and # 2 reason was very young kids come in here and showing your gentails to minors is illeagle.. I never said moon's name or anyone elsesas I'm not familar with her vagina to know it on sight.. the thing I'm talking about is someone else taking that pic and using it as a sig..and to someone over 50 ..17 is still a child..you young ones alway do this.. take things out of context and flame on one sentence..how childish is that?? moon can show herself to the world when ever she wants.. but I should have to be force to see it .. if I dont choose to.... that's taking my rights away from me..and you as in anybody cant tell me what or what not to view..it can be brought before Skip and let him decide if he wants to have his site closed because of illeagle goings on.. I dont have a problem with nudity.. but I dont want it forced down my throat..or my kids to have to be exposed to it before they are ready to understand.. and as far as my body goes..I'm married and promised to give my charms to only him..what would be special about sharing something as personal as your body with someone you love if you share it with everyone.... and to truely intice there has to be something left to the imagaination..it's the mystery that makes it sensual..btw.. just to let you knoww.. I was a dancer for 7 yrs .. I danced at the Follies in the mission district in SF.. I danced at the Wiskey in Hollywood.. on Leon Russels piano..but I didn't walk down Hollywood and Vine topless..why do you think they call it the ART of sex..anyway I'm done with your flaming.. I'm not throwing anything back in your face.. I'm just standing up for my rights..I think there should be a place where you can view naked if you want.. but it should be your choice.. is that so hard to swallow..I worry about the future and who will be here when I am old and feable.. I hope not some of you..you'd have us all killed(or crash planes into us)..how is that helping anything..

[shameless_heifer]

ohhh yes I never said moon would be dead at 25.. I said what will happen to her by age 25.. if your going to flame m posts at least get it right.. ok..

[Lucifer Sam]

she's showing it now at 17 what will her life be like when she's 25... if she lives that long
Yeah... http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon13.gif

[shameless_heifer]

well that doesnt say I said she WOULD die.. see what I mean about thanking things out of context.. any little thing to bring the flame on.. yes MOST kids are angry at the world.. but do nothing to change it.. ridiculing others for standing up for their rights is counter product.. sam I asked you if you would like to see your child (when you have one) naked on the internet.. you never answered.. and moon how about you.. do you want kids and if so would you like them to show it all on the internet.. I never asked for any thread to be closed down.. I just am asking for a little discretion..

[Lucifer Sam]

sam I asked you if you would like to see your child (when you have one) naked on the internet..
Of course not. However, that doesn't mean that I think the porn industry should cease to be or that moon should take her photos down.

[shameless_heifer]

because you love to see them?? well why cant she email them to you..why does she have to show them to everyone.. not everyone cares to see them.. they're nothing special.. they look just like any other breasts.. big deal.. so you like to drool over moons breasts.. cant you do that in private.. like get a room..

[shameless_heifer]

don't any of you have any respect for Skip???

[John Bongflonaho]

Hi Shameless, This is one of the few threads that I have gone all the way through for the most part and I am surprised with your comments. I thought from your past post in other threads and your life experience, you of all people would be a bit more open minded.
This is a pretty safe place in comparison to xxx porn sites that ANYONE can get into. If the young want to feel there oats, let them. If they don't here, it will be in another fourm or xxx slut sites. In my mind, I would rather them do at home then out there, anyways, it's not like they are spreading their legs and trying to be pornstars.
Why do we need a password.
Shameless, I like reading about all of the history and life you have lived, and I know you mean well. If this were a kiddy porn site, I'd call the FBI pronto, but it's not. I think any child molester should have his balls cut off and then hand him his sack , then put his dick in a vice grip without a handle and give him a sharp knife, then light the building on fire, but that's just me. Enough of that.
Now that i have said my part, thanks for reading and keep on keeping on. You have the right to feel the way you do.
U R a good person my dear...........Peace to you too.

[shameless_heifer]

again another mans oppinion.. John you seems like a nice fellow..do you have daughters?? would you like to see their boobs or pussys on the net..and how does your wife feel about it..I dont care what anyone does as long as it doesnt harm anyone..now really john.. when moons shows her self to the guys.. they are not thinking wow what great art she has there.. their thinking sex and you can't tell me any different.. gees yes I went threw my youth as liberal..but like I said I didn't walk around on main st with my panties down.. so guys could get turned on.. as a dancer (stripper) I know what goes threw mens minds when they see tits and ass.. I had them learing at me long enough to from an opinion about it.. it's sexist and demeaning to women.... I dont see no dicks showing.. and I dont wanna see it either..

[shameless_heifer]

you all want to know where I'm coming from.. I have 6 grand daughters.. ranging from 14 to 1 yr.. they come here to my house and use my pc.. my 7 yr old saw moon before I could click.. she look at me so funny and I saw something in her eyes that hurt me.. I saw dissapointment in them sweet little brown eyes looking up at me..she aked me why I was looking at that..and why was that girl naked.. what could I tell her.. she trusts me.. how can I not say something..and sleep at night.. I told you I'm doing it for the children..I will NOT betray my grand daughters love and respect for any one.. ever.. Blessed Be..

[moon_flower]

FORCED TO LOOK AT THEM? No, you read the title, you click on the post. It's not like it just pops up when you log on.
And, because you think my boobs are nothing special means they should be taken down? Who are you to judge. You weren't forced to see them. I'm proud of them, and don't care to show them.
And, it's not my fault that little girl got on your net. I guess that's your problem for not watching her close enough, ey?

[John Bongflonaho]

again another mans oppinion.. John you seems like a nice fellow..do you have daughters?? would you like to see their boobs or pussys on the net..and how does your wife feel about it..I dont care what anyone does as long as it doesnt harm anyone..now really john.. when moons shows her self to the guys.. they are not thinking wow what great art she has there.. their thinking sex and you can't tell me any different.. gees yes I went threw my youth as liberal..but like I said I didn't walk around on main st with my panties down.. so guys could get turned on.. as a dancer (stripper) I know what goes threw mens minds when they see tits and ass.. I had them learing at me long enough to from an opinion about it.. it's sexist and demeaning to women.... I dont see no dicks showing.. and I dont wanna see it either..I think I'm am going to try to answer this without going to far off the edge. I won't at all.
My opioion is not that of just a man view, it's that of a person who has been through alot of life. A person that went through the tail end of what you lived through in the 60s. A person who has made alot of mistakes and probably shouldn't even be trying to give advice . But i have made it this far.
Yes, I have a 20 year old daughter who some how, turned out pretty good. Would I want her to be showing her stuff on the internet, playboy, thestreets?
No, but if she felt she wanted to, all I can do is give her my opinion. I think I wouldn't want to know but that sounds like I would be a bad dad, so ... Until the next go round.

PS, there is a dick thread under sex and love I think it's called.

[John Bongflonaho]

you all want to know where I'm coming from.. I have 6 grand daughters.. ranging from 14 to 1 yr.. they come here to my house and use my pc.. my 7 yr old saw moon before I could click.. she look at me so funny and I saw something in her eyes that hurt me.. I saw dissapointment in them sweet little brown eyes looking up at me..she aked me why I was looking at that..and why was that girl naked.. what could I tell her.. she trusts me.. how can I not say something..and sleep at night.. I told you I'm doing it for the children..I will NOT betray my grand daughters love and respect for any one.. ever.. Blessed Be..TUNE YOUR PC OFF!
PEACE

[Lucifer Sam]

Like I said before, shameless is hopeless.

[shameless_heifer]

ahhh.. yes there are forums and you KNOW what your getting when you go in , dont you..that's my whole point here is freedom of choice.. but do we have to have it in every thread.. I mean really there's a time and place for everything.. dont judge my motives so harshly..what's so bad about having it kept in the forums that cater to that.. we could be in a circle of light healing someone.. consentrating of vibrations and a set of boobs could throw the whole thing off.. I mean it's a matter of consideration..a certain ammount of respect for your fellow man..cant we have a choice in the matter of what we see.. how is this thread and myself so.. fucked up for even suggesting such a thing.?? how does that make me some kind of 'fake or purtan or whatever the hurtfull names I have been addressed as.. because I am pure of nature and not EGO ridden.. because I want to have the right to choose my enviroment.. because I'm old?? I'm just a messenger.. is this not a worthy question to ask..how is my question harming anyone?? dont you want to have choices?? why would you deprive me of mine??

[John Bongflonaho]

ahhh.. yes there are forums and you KNOW what your getting when you go in , dont you..that's my whole point here is freedom of choice.. but do we have to have it in every thread.. I mean really there's a time and place for everything.. dont judge my motives so harshly..what's so bad about having it kept in the forums that cater to that.. we could be in a circle of light healing someone.. consentrating of vibrations and a set of boobs could throw the whole thing off.. I mean it's a matter of consideration..a certain ammount of respect for your fellow man..cant we have a choice in the matter of what we see.. how is this thread and myself so.. fucked up for even suggesting such a thing.?? how does that make me some kind of 'fake or purtan or whatever the hurtfull names I have been addressed as.. because I am pure of nature and not EGO ridden.. because I want to have the right to choose my enviroment.. because I'm old?? I'm just a messenger.. is this not a worthy question to ask..how is my question harming anyone?? dont you want to have choices?? why would you deprive me of mine??I do see where you are coming from, but maybe this is not the place you need to be. There is hate here, but you'll find it every where. You do have a choice. I want you to stay but for your own sprit, you may have to move on.
I know that I shouldn't say this, but remember, you through me intot the all men group. For a guy, the circle of light might have a nice set of boobs in it.
Just being a man.

[shameless_heifer]

hey when I signed up here I didn't see an adults only sign on the door.. or xxx rated.. sometimes when you log in you see someone that you talk to and click on what their talking about and all of a sudden a pic pops up and you can't click fast enough.. damn..what's wrong with kids being in here if it's safe for them.. moon dear.. you may love to show.. but not everyone wants to see.. it's a matter of choice.. I see that I'm beating a dead horse here.. you just don't get it..your pic and that thread had nothing to do with one another it wasn't even you that posted it and that made it seem worse to me.. I wondered if you even know about it.. I was conserned for you too.... I'm hetro and dont get a thrill looking at womens private parts.. if I did I'd go to the sites that catered to it.. I meant you no harm..

[shameless_heifer]

I think I'm am going to try to answer this without going to far off the edge. I won't at all.
My opioion is not that of just a man view, it's that of a person who has been through alot of life. A person that went through the tail end of what you lived through in the 60s. A person who has made alot of mistakes and probably shouldn't even be trying to give advice . But i have made it this far.
Yes, I have a 20 year old daughter who some how, turned out pretty good. Would I want her to be showing her stuff on the internet, playboy, thestreets?
No, but if she felt she wanted to, all I can do is give her my opinion. I think I wouldn't want to know but that sounds like I would be a bad dad, so ... Until the next go round.

PS, there is a dick thread under sex and love I think it's called.John you say your daughter is 20.. what if she was 17.. or 10?? would your answer be the same.. come on lets peel this onion..

[HippieLngstckng]

hey when I signed up here I didn't see an adults only sign on the door.. or xxx rated.. sometimes when you log in you see someone that you talk to and click on what their talking about and all of a sudden a pic pops up and you can't click fast enough

Yes, however, those kinds of pictures are only supposed to be in particular forums that CLEARLY STATE that it contains adult material. If someone posts inappropriate material on the wrong thread, it pretty much gets deleted or moved. Skip can't control everyone posting on here, even the underage posters. Besides, do you think this website looks child appropriate, with all the sex and drug talk?

Hey, I got an idea! How about we pay attention to what our kids are looking at on the internet, and stay with the really young ones while they're websurfing!

No child should be on a computer without supervision, you should have some kind of monitoring system, just because of all the sickos in the world who will try to take them away from you, and turn them into sex dollies. And you can't tell kids that are 16 or 17 anything anyway, they do what they please and don't listen.

This isn't a comment towards you Shameless, but think about it for a moment. Some people are too lazy to parent their own children, and expect other people to take care of it for them. I guess the internet is replacing the television as America's Favorite Babysitter.

So don't be like that, don't expect other people to do your job.

[RetroGroove_Grrl]

I think people get problems when your opinions on marriage come into it shameless, suggesting that your ideal of saving things for a special someone is the correct way to go about things, when really lots of people, as you would well know, dont quite agree.

Yes the pics are illegal, and yes its not allowed on hipforums, but people have to push boundries to get what they want dont they?

The thing is, these girls tooks their own photos, and published them of their own accord, so, its not as if they were forced to post them up here, also, 17 is more than old enough to make a decsision for yourself, and the difference physically between a 17 and 20 year old is marginal to non existant. Add that to the fact that these were allself taken and self volunteered pics, I dont see a problem in that area.

As for you being forced to see the pics, Originally they were in a section which you had to click on to acess, which did have a warning on it, if other people used the pics in a way which was inappropriate and outside of their intended use, than they should have been sanctioned accordingly, but not the original posters.

Lastly Shameless, you are old enough to understand that only you are responsible for your own actions, you werent forced to look at the pictures, you made your choices to log on to the forums, knowing that there aremany people here, all with their own free will and unpredictable actions... now with that in mind, dont you think you should at least admit to yourself that you are partially, if not completely to blame for your grandchild seeing the pictures.

Moon, your body is gorgeous and your pics are always very artistic.

[shameless_heifer]

I was on line my 'child' was playing dolls behind me and little eyes miss nothing.. if I had any idea that I may run into this.. I would have never logged on.. my 'kids' play games and look up horses and things like that..I didn't realize that I needed to protect them from here..but I do now.. and that's a shame.. cuz my kids like hippies.. their nanny and papaw are hippies.. and their curiouse as to what it's all about.. but their too young yet to see some things... so Hippie Land is now off limits to them.. and me when they are here.. bummer..

[sugarmaggie]

Shameless...hang it up..he's 17 and NOT gonna see it your way no matter what you say. Guys like naked chicks..end of story. Maybe when he has his own, he'll think back on this and say hey..maybe that "crazy" hippie was right after all. Name calling is shallow, Lucifer, and shows lack of intellectuality. You should respect people who are older than you, no matter if you agree with them or not. You can debate a matter in a tasteful way. Saying things that are hurtful just isn't necessary.

As far as the photos go..I think nudity is fine as long as it's not exposed in a tacky way. I don't agree with posting yourself nude for the sake of saying "hey..look at what I got". Cause guess what..it really isn't special. Moonflower is so beautiful..girls I think have a hard time with the fact that you don't have to do all that to get attention. Sweetie, your face is sufficient. Sure, you have a nice body..hell..lots of us do, but in the end..it's your mind that really matters. Everybody likes to look at beautiful things, it's no task to get a man's attention that way. The true task is reeling him in with what's upstairs......just my two cents.

[RetroGroove_Grrl]

should respect people who are older than you, no matter if you agree with them or not.
I totally agree that name calling is not a valid argument, however people who are old dont deserve respect becuase they are older, its not some divine right that the elder have respect, people have to earn respect from their fellow beings reguardless of age. Not only that Lucifer Sam is free to respect who ever he beleives is worth of it, as is Shameless

[shameless_heifer]

sugarmaggie.. thank you.. why is it when you say it it makes sence and when I say it all hell breaks loose..my karma I suppose.. but really thank you.. you brought it across much better that I did.. thanks for the clean up..

[sugarmaggie]

I totally agree that name calling is not a valid argument, however people who are old dont deserve respect becuase they are older, its not some divine right that the elder have respect, people have to earn respect from their fellow beings reguardless of age. Not only that Lucifer Sam is free to respect who ever he beleives is worth of it, as is Shameless
Sweetie..I was born in the southern United States..and where I come from, if you talk to an elder that way you got your fucking teeth knocked down your throat.

[sugarmaggie]

sugarmaggie.. thank you.. why is it when you say it it makes sence and when I say it all hell breaks loose..my karma I suppose.. but really thank you.. you brought it across much better that I did.. thanks for the clean up..
No problem, sister..;)

[John Bongflonaho]

sugarmaggie.. thank you.. why is it when you say it it makes sence and when I say it all hell breaks loose..my karma I suppose.. but really thank you.. you brought it across much better that I did.. thanks for the clean up..In the hippy communes, folks walked around naked with their children around. Were you not part of that? I have not read all of your posts.
Maybe, if we didn't hide it so much and talked about it openly as best we could, there wouldn't be so much rape and sex crimes. Maybe I am wrong.
When I was molested by my baby sitter at the age of 7, I knew nothing about sex but I did know that it was wrong because I felt bad inside. She said not to tell my parents and I didn't until I was 20. I done with that thought.
I don't know that we will ever agree on this but what I do know is there are alot more good people here than bad. We all have our own opinions and that's what makes it an ok place to be, so we can share our minds, love, life and hearts.

[sugarmaggie]

In the hippy communes, folks walked around naked with their children around. Were you not part of that? I have not read all of your posts.
Maybe, if we didn't hide it so much and talked about it openly as best we could, there wouldn't be so much rape and sex crimes. Maybe I am wrong.
When I was molested by my baby sitter at the age of 7, I knew nothing about sex but I did know that it was wrong because I felt bad inside. She said not to tell my parents and I didn't until I was 20. I done with that thought.
I don't know that we will ever agree on this but what I do know is there are alot more good people here than bad. We all have our own opinions and that's what makes it an ok place to be, so we can share our minds, love, life and hearts.
You're right..we all have our own opinions..nobody has to be right or wrong here. I just wish we could do it without bashing one's soul....it made me hurt to read some of that stuff.

[shameless_heifer]

Lucifer can look at what he whats and say what he wants but the way he says it is offencive and doesnt merit a responce all he wants to do is insult people that he can't get over on like he does with these young girls.. he's just waging his dick around saying nothing.... he offers nothing but hate and violence.. he is not a hippie.. or in touch with any light..he's a sad human being looking for acceptance in all the hurtful ways he can make himself look better..or feel better. I cannot reach him.. so I brush myself off and go on my way..

[seamonster66]

Quote: was a dancer for 7 yrs .. I danced at the Follies in the mission district in SF.. I danced at the Wiskey in Hollywood..

Exactly what I thought, you are projecting your own mistakes onto someone else. You've probably made worse decisions than Moon Flower's tasteful posting of a nude pic...you were face to face with real pervs and sexually teasing them. I think you need to put this event in perpective here.


And I agree, age doesn't inherently demand respect...especially when the older person, Shameless, has a distorted view of sexuality, likely due to her past, and is not above name calling herself..,.

and to sugar mag, good to know that the older people knock younger ones teeth out in the south...

PS Shameless-you not watching your kids well enough is not a good reason to censor this site.

and I see you never answered about the topics that a minor can READ about here, apparantly this simple nude pic shocks you more than beastialty.

It doesn't seem like you have been here long, not long enough to attempt to change the place.

[sugarmaggie]

Quote: was a dancer for 7 yrs .. I danced at the Follies in the mission district in SF.. I danced at the Wiskey in Hollywood..

Exactly what I thought, you are projecting your own mistakes onto someone else. You've probably made worse decisions than Moon Flower's tasteful posting of a nude pic...you were face to face with real pervs and sexually teasing them. I think you need to put this event in perpective here.


And I agree, age doesn't inherently demand respect...especially when the older person, Shameless, has a distorted view of sexuality, likely due to her past, and is not above name calling herself..,.

and to sugar mag, good to know that the older people knock younger ones teeth out in the south...

PS Shameless-you not watching your kids well enough is not a good reason to censor this site.

and I see you never answered about the topics that a minor can READ about here, apparantly this simple nude pic shocks you more than beastialty.

It doesn't seem like you have been here long, not long enough to attempt to change the place.It was a figure of speach..so don't even try that shit with me. But yeah...respect was something I was raised on. Particularly to elders who have life experience. People who talk more than they listen are fools. Don't get it confused though..just because I'm saying you need to respect someone, doesn't necessarily mean you have to AGREE with them. You can get your point across without being so damn mean..you have to know that. When it starts getting ugly I've found the best thing to do is shut the fuck up and go about my business..because OBVIOUSLY nobody is gonna give either way. You know as well as I do that this has all been blown out of proportion. Do you really think ANY of us care about the photo THAT much?? It's all about arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. Why are you so hellbent on this anyway?? Hell..let's see what you got....post your nude photos too. I really could care less.

Edited because I was under the assumption SeaMonster was female.

[shameless_heifer]

I lived in communes and there was nudity.. but not out on the streets.. you get arrested for that..when we branched out to the country some went naked and some partial.. yes the kids were around.. but it wasn't for public everyday view..it was on your own land where only certian eyes can see..we didn't march up and down haight st nekkid.. we did gather in protest naked to make a point and to get noticed.. it was for a reason.. not just to show it cuz you had it..and when I said that I saved my body for my husband well that's what marriage is or suppose to be all about.. and you take a vow.. or is marriage outdated nowadays.. or the sanction of marriage..

[shameless_heifer]

what I did was a JOB.. I got payed.. I wasn't flinging it around everywhere..I got to feeling sticky and so I stopped.. so I'm out of this now..

[RetroGroove_Grrl]

Sweetie..I was born in the southern United States..and where I come from, if you talk to an elder that way you got your fucking teeth knocked down your throat.
Respect isnt something you can just get, it has to be earned, and its not something you can switch on.

Like religion, if I decide that I dont believe someone to be worthy of my respect, than I wont have respect for them. You can make someone be respectful and go through the motions of being respectful, but that doesnt consitute respect, it doesnt make somebody feel respect for another.

Deep south US values dont apply to the whole world, and theyre not necessarily correct

[seamonster66]

quote: Deep south US values dont apply to the whole world, and theyre not necessarily correct

You can say that a thousand more times if you'd like!

[sugarmaggie]

Respect isnt something you can just get, it has to be earned, and its not something you can switch on.

Like religion, if I decide that I dont believe someone to be worthy of my respect, than I wont have respect for them. You can make someone be respectful and go through the motions of being respectful, but that doesnt consitute respect, it doesnt make somebody feel respect for another.

Deep south US values dont apply to the whole world, and theyre not necessarily correctOMG I can't believe I'm still wasting my time on this. Ok fine..don't respect people you don't feel deserve it..will you be mean to them?? If you can read some of Shameless' posts(not just the ones in here either) and feel you can't find any respect for her at all..then you are just not worth my time. So..just because of her feelings on this stupid thread..what you're saying is you don't respect her?? Then I don't respect you. And i never said that our values apply to the whole world..or even that they were correct..can you respect those values though?? I hope you don't claim to be an open minded person if you can't. I'm well aware that our values don't apply to all, and hell..they may even be wrong. Thanks for the lesson nonetheless. Everything I'm saying could be complete bullshit..but same goes for you. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna be mean to you, I love everybody...including people who think I'm full of shit. But that's just me and how my karma thrives daily.

[seamonster66]

Quote: And i never said that our values apply to the whole world..or even that they were correct..can you respect those values though??

I don't believe in hurting other people, but I, for one, do not respect typical southern values.

If the older person respects the younger person too, then a mutual respect can occur. When the older person is equally as insulting the the younger one, what is the point in a blind respect.

[John Bongflonaho]

I lived in communes and there was nudity.. but not out on the streets.. you get arrested for that..when we branched out to the country some went naked and some partial.. yes the kids were around.. but it wasn't for public everyday view..it was on your own land where only certian eyes can see..we didn't march up and down haight st nekkid.. we did gather in protest naked to make a point and to get noticed.. it was for a reason.. not just to show it cuz you had it..and when I said that I saved my body for my husband well that's what marriage is or suppose to be all about.. and you take a vow.. or is marriage outdated nowadays.. or the sanction of marriage..What we have here if a failure to,.....I not sure where the fxxk you are coming from now. I'm not saying this to be mean or in anger, but come on. You said that your grand daughter saw a tit or a nip. This was in your house, behind closed doors, not out in the street. Maybe you should have talked to them about it. YES. Then you say that you didn't march up and down the street, but then you say you gathered in protest naked. When you gather some place, it's not in a tent, It's outside, that's right,it was to make a point.
I am glad you save yourself for your husband. Where does that tie in?
I am having a hard time connecting the rings here. It seems that you are blowing in one end and it's coming out different at the other.
Help me pleace understand.


Does the word PEACE fit? Always!

[sugarmaggie]

Quote: And i never said that our values apply to the whole world..or even that they were correct..can you respect those values though??

I don't believe in hurting other people, but I, for one, do not respect typical southern values.

If the older person respects the younger person too, then a mutual respect can occur. When the older person is equally as insulting the the younger one, what is the point in a blind respect.
Fine..don't respect them. I'm done with you and this thread..apparently you all are too fucking narrowminded to even understand what I'm saying. How frustrating this is....

[charmain]

Would all you guys like an ice cream? I'll buy.......Maybe it will help you chill.

[seamonster66]

quote: Fine..don't respect them. I'm done with you and this thread..apparently you all are too fucking narrowminded to even understand what I'm saying. How frustrating this is

thanks for the ice cream.....I just don't really understand what you are saying...there is either respect or there isn't, and it should go both ways. I'm quite calm here. All I'm saying is that there should be no "dutiful respect" that is soley related to ones age or place in society....for instance, I'm not going to respect someone just because they are president, I'm not going to respect a father who is abusive...etc.

[RetroGroove_Grrl]

hey man, I never said I didnt have respect for her, I was using a hypothetical explanation to explain what I meant, sheesh!

I dont know her well enough, and I never insulted her, I never called her names.

[seamonster66]

you are just "too fucking narrowminded" like me Retrogroove. ;)

[RetroGroove_Grrl]

yeah aparently, though I would have thought the mandatory demand for respect when it is not earned being more narrow minded, or smacking in someones teeth, or whatever... sheesh this is one heated thread.

[sugarmaggie]

yeah aparently, though I would have thought the mandatory demand for respect when it is not earned being more narrow minded, or smacking in someones teeth, or whatever... sheesh this is one heated thread.
Okay..last post from me on this one for sure. My definition of respect is not bowing down to them or agreeing with them..or even LIKING them..it is merely treating them as you would expect to be treated. I see people I don't necessarily like every day..now I love them as a creature of God..but I don't like them. I don't give them dirty looks, speak hateful to them, or write off anything they say as crazy. I simply smile and go about my way..stewing over things they said in my own mind, and THINK damn..how insane was that?!?! This is respect in my opinion. Maybe we just don't have the same definition of respect going on..which is OKAY. It's all good..we're all different..and that's great. How boring would the world be if it weren't that way?? I'm out of this one folks..I've got alot to learn about what I post here apparently.

[Lucifer Sam]

Name calling is shallow, Lucifer, and shows lack of intellectuality.No, actually, it shows lack of respect... and I don't have a problem showing her that I don't respect her.

You should respect people who are older than you, no matter if you agree with them or not.No, respect is earned. It's not something that one automatically gets when he/she ages.

Saying things that are hurtful just isn't necessary.You know what they say... the truth hurts.

Sweetie..I was born in the southern United States..and where I come from, if you talk to an elder that way you got your fucking teeth knocked down your throat.Yet another reason why the south sucks ass...

all he wants to do is insult people that he can't get over on like he does with these young girls..Haha, what are you talking about? Why do you keep talking about "young girls"? Ahh, this is hilarious. You're a piece of work, you know that?

he's just waging his dick around saying nothing.... he offers nothing but hate and violence..Right... I offer nothing but hate and violence. My 2,700 posts have all been flames and violence. I just hate everyone and everything. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

he is not a hippie.. or in touch with any light..You are correct. I am not a hippie. We've been over this before, have we not, shameless? I believe you started a thread before to bash Lodui and myself for not being hippies. Yeah, that's right...

he's a sad human being looking for acceptance in all the hurtful ways he can make himself look better..or feel better.I'm a "sad human being" because I speak my mind about how I don't agree with what your puritan ideology? Aren't you being a bit of a hypocrite? I thought you were a hippie... hmm. I don't think a hippie would condemn someone for a liberal, open-minded viewpoint.

Ahh, this thread is great. The intelligence level here... wooo, down the fucking drain! http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[DoggoD]

All I have to say is...If you dont like it, there is a little X in the very upper right hand corner of your screen. Click on that and leave the rest of us the fuck alone! And if there is someone standing next to you with a gun pointed at your head making you go to hipforums.com I appologise.


oh, and mabe you should read this

child Pornography

n : the illegal use of children in pornographic pictures or films [syn: kiddie porn (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kiddie%20porn), kiddy porn (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kiddy%20porn)]
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=child%20Pornography

If someone under 18 takes a picture of THEIRSELF and presents it to people THEIRSELF there is nothing illegal about it.

[Southernman]

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[moon_flower]

WOW, I always knew my pussy would get me into trouble.

[teepi]

Thanks for the laugh and the memories.....where's fat freddy's cat???.....I love him.

[lover/young_peace]

all he wants to do is insult people that he can't get over on like he does with these young girls..

Haha, what are you talking about? Why do you keep talking about "young girls"? Ahh, this is hilarious. You're a piece of work, you know that?



Not that there is anything wrong with being young and female...

AHEM! :confused:

[lover/young_peace]

Thanks for the laugh and the memories.....where's fat freddy's cat???.....I love him.

hahaha, as do I, that cat was always into something. but fat freddy wasn't so bright, was he? ;)

[Southernman]

http://www.ichthyophilia.com/ffcat/dinner.gif
..........

[teepi]

THANKS SWEETIE!!!!!
I love that cats nose.

And thank you for the lightheartedness.

[John Bongflonaho]

Well S/H, after giving this thread further thought and a bit more pondering, I fell that if you don't want to have to view something that may upset or offend you, you have that right. And remember, sprit and mind do connect as they did here.
Although i do not think that there should be a password, there should be some kind of heads-up as to whats going to hit you in the face.
Maybe if there were a box to click if there were something that could offend people. By clicking the box, you have invited what ever the other person want to post into to your home, and this way, little eyes that are not of age would not be able to view it either. You could also click it back off.
Would everone go along with this? Well if it were part of the user restrictions, I think they would, but it would probably have to be the honor system. Just a thought as to a way to remedy the problem.
This should be a safe place for all and should be a home for you.

Thanks for shopping at K-Mart

[HippieLngstckng]

S/H, I understand that you want to keep your children's mind's pure, but teaching them that there is something wrong or unpure about their bodies isn't the way to go. If a simple tastefully done nude pic has your child asking questions, that means she has a negative association with the naked body. By the way, it's not like I'm some heathen, I regularly attend church and make my way through this life the best way I know how, but there's a difference between recognizing the art and beauty of a human body, and out-and-out pornography.

Your opinion may differ from everyone else's about what is porn and what is art, but it's not exactly fair for you to tell folks what they should and shouldn't post, based on your personal morals and boundries.

I hope that you return to this website, keeping in mind what you've learned in this thead. Expect the unexpected from everyone around here... and respect everyone's freedom to post as they please. Hope to see you around.

[shameless_heifer]

hippie dear..your right about wanting to keep my kids minds pure.. I never said I told my 'child' that nudity was bad.. I did tell her that the body is a beautiful thing and she should be proud of her body and take care of it.. I also told her I didn't think it was good to show it to everyone tho.. and she agreed.. I'm going to tone down my posts when it involves the younger ones.. I dont want to offend.. I have great love to share.. Brightest Blessings..

[John Bongflonaho]

hippie dear..your right about wanting to keep my kids minds pure.. I never said I told my 'child' that nudity was bad.. I did tell her that the body is a beautiful thing and she should be proud of her body and take care of it.. I also told her I didn't think it was good to show it to everyone tho.. and she agreed.. I'm going to tone down my posts when it involves the younger ones.. I dont want to offend.. I have great love to share.. Brightest Blessings..Remember, You can't please everybody all the time.

[teepi]

I want the name of that frogs dentist...his teeth are gorgeous!!!

[John Bongflonaho]

I want the name of that frogs dentist...his teeth are gorgeous!!!His name is Dr. Bud Wiser DDS. His wife, Lily also works the pond with him.
These are the triplets, Manny, Moe and Jaqulin.

[teepi]

And Peppy boys and girl they are.

[moonshyne]

I'm a little late posting this I guess. I read the first few pages but I didn't read everything else so forgive me if I'm just repeating something.

I guess this thread is mostly complaining about nudity on this site, and the children who might see it? You know, this site doesn't have a nudist forum, but it does have a whole slew of drug related topics. Personally, I find it a little more disturbing that a 10, 12, or 14 year old kid can find out how to shoot up heroin or use common household chemicals to get high, rather than finding a boob or two around here.

It's kind of like the way people got soooo pissed off when janet jackson's boob flashed across TV screens for a fraction of a second, but yet the game involves grown men ramming heads and intentionally trying to hurt each other. Violence and Drug use/abuse is okay, but slight nudity is not? The love and sex forum is FILLED with blatant, explicit sex talk, but yet no one complains that some kid might read it.

That piece of shit John ashcroft thinks it's okay to "liberate" children by blowing them to tiny bits with our bombs, but yet he had 2 statues covered with drapes because they had exposed breasts?

I'm not trying to bitch, but I do think there are more important thing to worry about, like what your kids might be READING on this site, rather than them seeing boobs.

[John Bongflonaho]

And Peppy boys and girl they are.THE THREE BEST FROGS A GUY/GAL EVER HAD.

[shameless_heifer]

funny that you would post frogs.. I have several frogs living in my kitchen..bright green tree frogs.. with yellow stripes..while I was watering my plants today I stuck my fingers in the pot to see if it was dry and needed watering.. but my fingers didn't touch dirt it touched frog...lol.. skeerd me to death...lolol

[John Bongflonaho]

funny that you would post frogs.. I have several frogs living in my kitchen..bright green tree frogs.. with yellow stripes..while I was watering my plants today I stuck my fingers in the pot to see if it was dry and needed watering.. but my fingers didn't touch dirt it touched frog...lol.. skeerd me to death...lololwell, lets see. last post for the morning

[teepi]

I collect frogs.... they are so mellow looking.
Went to the zoo in DC years ago and saw some beautiful bright cobalt blue and fire engine red poisonous frogs....

[shameless_heifer]

it is said if you lick the back of one of these posion frogs it will get you extreamly high..but how would you get your tongue that close to a posion frog..Teepi.. I started really diggin' frogs about two yrs ago when the first one moved in.he lived in my kitchen for two yrs..I put them out but they come right back in.. so I share my kitchen with them..when it rains they chirp or whatever that sound is they make.. but you know.. I feel safer when I see them watchin' me.. one ili bitty one sits on top of a stained bottle I have in the window.. he/she perches it's self there looking out over the whole room.... it's so small you'd never notice it unless someone ointed it out to them.. my 11 yr old Grd Daughter use to walk around with the old frog perched on her finger like a bird..it was so cool..she collects frogs too.. live ones and artifactual.. frogs frogs frogs.. hey I wrote a poem about frogs a few yrs ago.. maybe I'll post it some day..I think I have it posted in poetry.com ..not sure tho.. anyway.. here's ta frogs.. <(^-^)>

[sugarmaggie]

I want the name of that frogs dentist...his teeth are gorgeous!!!
lol..pretty funny

[shameless_heifer]

he must brush between flies..

[sugarmaggie]

he must brush between flies..
lol....no doubt Speaking of collecting frogs, Shameless..my son is 5, and he loves them but is scared of them. Kinda like..ohhh commere..noooo ..go away..lol Scares the hell outta him when they jump or something..it's pretty funny. At least I'll never have to worry about finding one in his pocket during laundry.....

[teepi]

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