Enlightment.

[Spiritchalist]

..is a destination.

As at the 12th Dimensional level, events occur passing between dimensions, first created by conciousness.

As you meditate, drum, etc., and your mind reaches a higher vibrational state, we move 'Upwards" (going from 3rd to 12th dimension). There is no limit though, in the 12th dimension, how do i know? Take a look at the last 11. So it may not end in the 12th, though the 12th might be the last level of conciousness. Upon reaching enlightenment, you have access to every point, concept, energy, and knowledge in the universe, upon more things we haven't even imagined!

That's how i imagine it anyway.

[xexon]

In reality, there are no dimensions. Only the one.

There are no individual rivers in the ocean.



x

[neodude1212]

So, what happens after Oneness?

[bluesafire]

So, what happens after Oneness?

you get a gold star :cheers2:

[neodude1212]

you get a gold star :cheers2:

I get the sense that I don't get to keep it forever though.

[Cherea]

Enlighten up.

[bluesafire]

I get the sense that I don't get to keep it forever though.


no, silly, that would be attachment. :rolleyes:

you fail. repeat grade. :cool:

[neodude1212]

no, silly, that would be attachment. :rolleyes:

you fail. repeat grade. :cool:

Ahh, so that is how you want to play. I see.

You get a gold star.

How can I get something additional if I am Oneness?

[Cherea]

no, silly, that would be attachment. :rolleyes:

you fail. repeat grade. :cool:Agreed. :cheers2:

[HoneySuckleBlue]

How can I get something additional if I am Oneness?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/seatimes/SIgWsQeu_7I/AAAAAAAAC0E/taqaIANZVJs/s400/kaosamai%20takeout%204,%2012,%2013.jpg

Order take out and ask them to include chopsticks?

[bluesafire]

How can I get something additional if I am Oneness?

Excellent, you passed the secret test. You may now proceed to enlightenment.

Oh, and here you go...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tJJEi1zseDI/R56xHgJ7IxI/AAAAAAAAApM/2mmS-IJGgME/s320/gold_star.gif

[neodude1212]

Excellent, you passed the secret test. You may now proceed to enlightenment.

Oh, and here you go...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tJJEi1zseDI/R56xHgJ7IxI/AAAAAAAAApM/2mmS-IJGgME/s320/gold_star.gif


But how can I proceed to enlightenment? If enlightenment is somewhere that I need to proceed to, then where am I now?

[Indy Hippy]

In reality, there are no dimensions. Only the one.

There are no individual rivers in the ocean.



x


Actually man it is proven that there are opposite currents flowing in our oceans, thus it is entirely possible and really even plausible that our dimention is but one of thousands even trillions.

[neodude1212]

Actually man it is proven that there are opposite currents flowing in our oceans, thus it is entirely possible and really even plausible that our dimention is but one of thousands even trillions.

Think bigger.

But smaller.

Same thought.

[bluesafire]

But how can I proceed to enlightenment? If enlightenment is somewhere that I need to proceed to, then where am I now?

how? if? where? Always the questions with these people. :rolleyes:

*yanks star away, throws on floor & stomps on it*

[Indy Hippy]

how? if? where? Always the questions with these people. :rolleyes:

*yanks star away, throws on floor & stomps on it*
Enlightenment comes when you understand that you are not merely a being of flesh and blood and that you already know the answers to these most troubling questions. We were there when our plane came into existance within the vast seas of the multiverse, we shall be here long after our plane ceases to exist. Enlightenment comes when we realize that we are meant for the greater good not simply for ourselves and our selfish wants.

[heeh2]

i see.....particular instances of "we" are assigned ethical value

we can be erroneous

does not compute

[xexon]

Actually man it is proven that there are opposite currents flowing in our oceans, thus it is entirely possible and really even plausible that our dimention is but one of thousands even trillions.



So it would seem.

But you're the one that creates reality around you. Your reality is projected around your perceptions like a glow around a candle flame. You are the source. You are the creator.

If your reality contains a billion dimensions, it's up to you.

When creation is finished, and the creator tires of it, it is reabsorbed back into the creator like a spider eating it's own web. One dimension again. No duality. No division.

This is true of a human soul. Its also true for the creator God that made our souls. Someday, we ourselves will be reabsorbed into the unmanifest God.



x

[bluesafire]

Enlightenment comes when you understand that you are not merely a being of flesh and blood and that you already know the answers to these most troubling questions. We were there when our plane came into existance within the vast seas of the multiverse, we shall be here long after our plane ceases to exist. Enlightenment comes when we realize that we are meant for the greater good not simply for ourselves and our selfish wants.


Or....Enlightenment comes when you STFU. Yeah, go with that.

[Indy Hippy]

Or....Enlightenment comes when you STFU. Yeah, go with that.


Who is to say who's method of enlightnment is any more correct or true than another's? There are myrid forms of reaching this great unknown. Perhaps your way is not any different then mine, or any worse, or even any better? But in order to truly reach enlightnment we must all respect each other as we respect ourselves.

[Indy Hippy]

So it would seem.

But you're the one that creates reality around you. Your reality is projected around your perceptions like a glow around a candle flame. You are the source. You are the creator.

If your reality contains a billion dimensions, it's up to you.

When creation is finished, and the creator tires of it, it is reabsorbed back into the creator like a spider eating it's own web. One dimension again. No duality. No division.

This is true of a human soul. Its also true for the creator God that made our souls. Someday, we ourselves will be reabsorbed into the unmanifest God.



x

Just out of interest if we create our own realities then why is war still happening? Why are people still starving around the world? Why is mankind still so vile and animalistic toward one another? These are all things that would be in my "reality" yet they continue in the world around me. I would think that it would be neccesary to seperate the dream realities from the outter ones. But who can truly say?

[Spiritchalist]

Because people are creating war. You know many trillions of dolllars companies make every day from that junk?

The idea is, that as we reach the 'topmost' dimension, where there is nothing, but everything, everything is nothing, and nothing is everything, a single thought is something and everything, and as that carries down through dimensions, it becomes more humanly plausible and tangible. IMO at least.

[Indy Hippy]

Because people are creating war. You know many trillions of dolllars companies make every day from that junk?

The idea is, that as we reach the 'topmost' dimension, where there is nothing, but everything, everything is nothing, and nothing is everything, a single thought is something and everything, and as that carries down through dimensions, it becomes more humanly plausible and tangible. IMO at least.

A very interesting theory man. I'll have to put these thoughts into my considerations.

[xexon]

Just out of interest if we create our own realities then why is war still happening? Why are people still starving around the world? Why is mankind still so vile and animalistic toward one another? These are all things that would be in my "reality" yet they continue in the world around me. I would think that it would be neccesary to seperate the dream realities from the outter ones. But who can truly say?


This world is like a soul school. The lessons are hard for a reason.

You cannot reform the world without defeating it's purpose for those who come behind you down the path. They too must learn what you may have already passed through.

The best course of action is to involve yourself as little as possible in the world so as not to get it all over you.

Watch others make a mess out of themselves. And try to stay out of the way of any spillover.


x

[neodude1212]

how? if? where? Always the questions with these people. :rolleyes:

*yanks star away, throws on floor & stomps on it*

I just felt like being difficult.

But to be fair, you don't seem to be on your best behavior either.

[Paul Shapiro]

Hi fellas,

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Hope this helps clarify things

Thanks
have a good day
Paul

[Spiritchalist]

That is actually quite an interesting website, Paul, though I have a bit of trouble with the grammar ;)