Need serious knowledgeable advice ASAP - OXY withdrawls & ways to minimize or prevent

[boomslang]

Hello,

Someone I know (I will call him Jason for him to remain anonymous) got his hands on 10 x 40mg Oxymorphones. He told me that he liked them a LOT, even better then Oxycodone, OC. However, he has gotten himself into a tight spot and has been doing about 10-20 mgs a day for the past three weeks. He only had 10 mgs left today out of all of the 10 he originally had (so now he has 1/4 of a pill) and he crushed it up with a razor last night and did half of it in a line, I'm assuming 5 mg because 10mg was cut in half it appeared (this was at about midnight last night CST in the USA). Should he take the next dose soon, like now (it has been almost 24 hours since he last took 5 mg and he is telling me that he is already feeling the negative effects) to prevent withdrawls? His friend is getting him 4 x OC 80 mg pills tomorrow so will those work (do they?) to help taper him off of opiates without painful withdrawl? What is the best method to do this? Will this even work because they are two different drugs (Oxymorphone and Oxycodone)?

Thank you for all the help it is greatly appreciated!!!

[polecat]

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=338192&f=120

[boomslang]

Thank You!!!

[boomslang]

He also has some Klonopins and Xanies. Would those help in any way?

[lilbear]

Either way they eventually run out...
And withdrawls suuuck green donkey dicks...

[jo_k_er_man]

you took the drugs.. you knew the consequences.. deal

[boomslang]

you took the drugs.. you knew the consequences.. deal

That wasn't necessary at all, in fact, it was pretty immature and just a rant from a pathetic human who had to nag at another person's faults to justify his own. Either give advice to help my friend so he doesn't hurt or don't but you obviously don't have anything positive or helpful to add to our discussion so leave and keep your fat ass mouth closed

[jo_k_er_man]

That wasn't really necessary, in fact, it was pretty immature. Either give advice to help my friend so he doesn't hurt or don't but if you don't have anything nice to say then keep your fat ass mouth closed

hey.. i'm giving YOU aka your friend.. the harsh reality that is WDs.. pills don't last forever.. and if you think they do.. well then payroll will eventually not keep up with your demand to do more and more and more.. if you keep chasing the dragon.. sooner or later you're gonna get your ass burned.. deal

[jo_k_er_man]

There is no answer or advice to your situation.. the answer is you're just gonna have to deal with them.. plain and simple.. WDs suck.. but its what ya get.. there is no happy ending to a binge..

[boomslang]

hey.. i'm giving YOU aka your friend.. the harsh reality that is WDs.. pills don't last forever.. and if you think they do.. well then payroll will eventually not keep up with your demand to do more and more and more.. if you keep chasing the dragon.. sooner or later you're gonna get your ass burned.. deal

are you trying to tell me struggles similar to this that you've been through in your life to help me in some way? I'm confused... really

If you can't tell yet... he is TRYING TO GET OFF OPIATE SHIT so please HELP HIM BE STRONGER by showing him HOW TO GET OFF IT the most painless way

If you haven't noticed either, this thread is about getting OFF opiates and not about staying on them like you imply that I suggest by hijacking and manipulating this thread.

payroll will eventually not keep up with your demand to do more and more and more..

[jo_k_er_man]

are you trying to tell me struggles similar to this that you've been through in your life to help me in some way? I'm confused... really

If you can't tell yet... he is TRYING TO GET OFF OPIATE SHIT so please HELP HIM BE STRONGER by showing him HOW TO GET OFF IT

hey.. no need for yelling asshole.. i told you.. you gotta just deal with it.. that is being strong.. dealing with the withdrawls is your strong point... if you cant be mentally strong to deal with the WDs.. then you are fucked.. plain and simple.. you are indeed in the vicious cycle that is addiction

[jo_k_er_man]

are you trying to tell me struggles similar to this that you've been through in your life to help me in some way? I'm confused... really

If you can't tell yet... he is TRYING TO GET OFF OPIATE SHIT so please HELP HIM BE STRONGER by showing him HOW TO GET OFF IT

If you haven't noticed either, this thread is about getting OFF opiates and not about :

Someone I know (I will call him Jason for him to remain anonymous) got his hands on 10 x 40mg Oxymorphones. He told me that he liked them a LOT, even better then Oxycodone, OC. However, he has gotten himself into a tight spot and has been doing about 10-20 mgs a day for the past three weeks. He only had 10 mgs left today out of all of the 10 he originally had (so now he has 1/4 of a pill) and he crushed it up with a razor last night and did half of it in a line, I'm assuming 5 mg because 10mg was cut in half it appeared (this was at about midnight last night CST in the USA). Should he take the next dose soon, like now (it has been almost 24 hours since he last took 5 mg and he is telling me that he is already feeling the negative effects) to prevent withdrawls? His friend is getting him 4 x OC 80 mg pills tomorrow so will those work (do they?) to help taper him off of opiates without painful withdrawl? What is the best method to do this? Will this even work because they are two different drugs (Oxymorphone and Oxycodone)?

your friend is making a pretty shitty attempt at quitting when he goes from OC40s to OC80s...

to help taper him off of opiates without painful withdrawl?

fairy tales.. no such thing

[boomslang]

Alright, I am sorry about being an asshole. I am just in pain at the moment and this is my first time. I fucked up and I am paying for it I was just looking for some advice to help me like a good friend would give, but obviously here it is few and far between. I am not saying another word to you. Ever. I'm done here.

[boomslang]

your friend is making a pretty shitty attempt at quitting when he goes from OC40s to OC80

if you had READ the 1st post you would know that it is 40mg OXYMORPHONES not 40 mg OXYCONTINS. BIG DIFFERENCE. Research your shit before you try to pull words out of your bum like you have a PhD in the area.

[boomslang]

You lost man, it's that simple. Go do something better with your time then to waste my thread. its pathetic and you're acting pathetically doing it

[jo_k_er_man]

ah.. sorry.. quick misread.. it happens.. you ever make a mistake? i know i have..

but now that i notice that its OxyMORPHONE.. yea.. dude... you just gotta sit it out.. maybe OC will have some effect on you but either way... those 4 80s are gonna run out.. and then what? hell week.. or two.. i've been there.. and everyone else has been there thats on this forum.. why would you expect pity? we've all been there and have all gone through the WDs.. there is no such thing as no WDs

[lilbear]

"Blinks" Damn where did it go? LOL

[jo_k_er_man]

"Blinks" Damn where did it go? LOL
must be in remarks to doin the 4 80s after doing 400mgs of opana

[boomslang]

I don't look at someone's so-called "forum status" when I view forums. I don't care if he has been talking here on the forums for 5+ years. The point is, he came across like an ass when he had no need to and it started a little storm of an argument which wasn't necessary. In the end, I get nothing out of the time spent arguing, I don't know, if anything that you get out of it, and I don't know what someone reading all of the thread would get out of it - probably nothing. He came across strong with an atitude on his first post which caught me offguard and that is why I reacted the way I did. Maye I am at fault. Maybe he is. In my mind, we both messed up by arguing with each other. I won't ask for anymore advice here as I now know what to expect. Make sure to train your old time forum legends to fend off newer forum members by using the same negativity!


you took the drugs.. you knew the consequences.. deal

[boomslang]

and then what? hell week.. or two.. i've been there.. and everyone else has been there thats on this forum.. why would you expect pity? we've all been there and have all gone through the WDs.. there is no such thing as no WDs

That a good straight up answer. I will take that and leave. Please close this thread MOD I'm done here.

[lilbear]

must be in remarks to doin the 4 80s after doing 400mgs of opana

LOL

[jo_k_er_man]

I'm sorry that this world ain't all gumdrops and lollipops buddy.. like i said before.. you're just gonna have to deal with the WDs sooner or later..

and you attack me.. when you were the one to initially lie in your thread.. saying that a "friend" was having this problem..

[lilbear]

That a good straight up answer. I will take that and leave. Please close this thread MOD I'm done here.

:seeya:

[boomslang]

hey.. no need for yelling asshole.. i told you.. you gotta just deal with it.. that is being strong.. dealing with the withdrawls is your strong point... if you cant be mentally strong to deal with the WDs.. then you are fucked.. plain and simple.. you are indeed in the vicious cycle that is addiction

I have to comment, even though I said I wouldn't, I will this time - I just read that quote and took it in for a few minutes. You are right and I apologize. I am going to suck it up and just deal with it. I learned and will definitely soon learn a much bigger lesson a fairly hard way for the next week or two. I have no hard feelings towards you. I have no right to judge you in any way, I don't know the first thing about you. You could be an awesome person and I just can't practically know so I won't make any judgements as best as I can.

I did learn some things from our "conversarion/debate/argument" so I guess it was worth the time. Thank you for the wisdom from someone who has been there before and knows the path that lies ahead for me. Please wish me luck or send some positive Chi my way lol.

[boomslang]

and you attack me.. when you were the one to initially lie in your thread.. saying that a "friend" was having this problem..

That is an ENTIRELY legal issue and you know why people use the acronym SWIM and also how it is used. You may have a good idea of whether it is me or my friend who is asking for help and you may be 100% correct, but that doesn't mean that I was intentionally going out of my way to hide that the OP (I) was the one who needed help himself and not his buddy. It's known as self-preservation, when people protect themselves from nosey eyes by using SWIM... that is just the simplest form of common sense after you browse this forum for the first few minutes...

[jo_k_er_man]

That is an ENTIRELY legal issue and you know why people use the acronym SWIM and also how it is used. You may have a good idea of whether it is me or my friend who is asking for help and you may be 100% correct, but that doesn't mean that I was intentionally going out of my way to hide that the OP (I) was the one who needed help himself and not his buddy. It's known as self-preservation, when people protect themselves from nosey eyes by using SWIM... that is just the simplest form of common sense after you browse this forum for the first few minutes...


ok.. im glad you finally learned from my bluntness.. my bluntness is often mistaken for being an asshole.. when its not meant to be.. legal issue wise.. say the police by some crazy way were to figure out that this was you.. SWIM would not hold up in court..

on another note.. you know.. i know.. i could have given you answers that would have just prolonged the inevitable.. and you don't want that. you dont need to dig a deeper hole than you are in.. good luck with the struggle that is WDs.. and i hope you get well.. get yourself a lot of soup.. because you wont want to eat anything.. and soup goes down well when you dont want to eat anything... and it digests in your stomach fast.. so when you throw up.. you wont be throwing up everything you just ate

[boomslang]

EDIT: I wrote this and submitted it before reading your above thread. So keep that in mind please.

I'm sorry that this world ain't all gumdrops and lollipops buddy.. like i said before.. you're just gonna have to deal with the WDs sooner or later..

and you attack me.. when you were the one to initially lie in your thread.. saying that a "friend" was having this problem..

First - I didn't LIE. I said SWIM. It is a LEGAL ISSUE and used by competent people.

Second - I've listened to your comments and taken the wisdom from parts of them and have accepting that I will have to deal with them. I've already accepted it so don't act like I am naive to the world. I have had people with legs torn off infront of me, people with bloody charcoal colored black puke all over their face that surrounds their dead body lying on the kitchen floor because their esophagus ruptured and they then went into cardiac arrest, 3 young teenagers completely mangled, mauled, and torn up from a horrific car accident... I worked as a Paramedic for over a tear and decided it wasn't for me. I am 23 years old. I know when life can get hard and I've lived through some crazy s**t just like we all have. This is my first time EVER to experience any kind of WDs so forgive me for asking questions and naturally trying to find a way to make them less painful.

Third - We've covered your statement that I lied. We covered SWIM.

[boomslang]

ood luck with the struggle that is WDs.. and i hope you get well.. get yourself a lot of soup.. because you wont want to eat anything.. and soup goes down well when you dont want to eat anything... and it digests in your stomach fast.. so when you throw up.. you wont be throwing up everything you just ate

Thanks all I wanted to hear brother. That's it. Thank you for helping, seriously.

[boomslang]

One more question if you have a few minutes to help me once again:

What should I expect in terms of signs and symptoms? (mood swings, irritability, feeling cold, bones hurting, aching muscles, vomiting... etc... did I miss anything, I'm sure I did?)

How long do you think it will last based on your experience? It doesn't have to be 95% accurate, I am just looking for a wiser person's judgment. Weston is having WDs and he is worried right now... (please just pass over the Weston deal, I just want to say it anyways =)

To give you an idea of Weston's addiction level (don't know what else to call it), Weston who had the 10 40mg opanas shared about 30% of it with his friends leaving Weston with 280 mgs over the last 20 days. That comes out to about 14mgs opana per day on average, 20 max, sometimes just 5-10 mgs. He had his last 5mg line two hours ago and is getting 4 80mg OCs tomorrow. Weston wants to use them to taper himself off opiates and will give it a shot and see if it helps, if not, what the hell. Anyways, I tried my best.

get yourself a lot of soup.. because you wont want to eat anything.. and soup goes down well when you dont want to eat anything... and it digests in your stomach fast.. so when you throw up.. you wont be throwing up everything you just ate

What soups would you recommend? LoL!

[china_white]

haha ya man, joker is a nice guy, its just WD's arnt something u can avoid,
try the thread stickyed as its your best bet, but u still will be in pain.

[jo_k_er_man]

I prefer "Lovable Asshole" :D

[lilbear]

I prefer "Lovable Asshole" :D

I like the Hoodie Ninja saying...
I am learning to not have any liquids around when I read your posts also...

[jo_k_er_man]

I like the Hoodie Ninja saying...
I am learning to not have any liquids around when I read your posts also...
:rofl:


PS: seriously.. who the fuck has ever used this smiley on here.. :Chevy_anim:

[lilbear]

:rofl:


PS: seriously.. who the fuck has ever used this smiley on here.. :Chevy_anim:

I have never even seen it...

[jo_k_er_man]

I have never even seen it...


its in the list of smileys.. obviously Skip thinks there's enough rednecks here

[jo_k_er_man]

cannot knock the chevy though.. i do love my Chevy S-10 ZR2 :D

[lilbear]

cannot knock the chevy though.. i do love my Chevy S-10 ZR2 :D

I will stick with my Charger...:D

[jo_k_er_man]

If its one of the new ones.. bleh...

ol skool though.. kick ass

[lilbear]

If its one of the new ones.. bleh...

ol skool though.. kick ass

I like the new ones,it is a SRT8

[jo_k_er_man]

the new ones just don't really have balls overall.. like their earlier counter parts.. either way.. i'll stick to my mud runnin.. off roadin.. sons of a biatch.. my ZR2 :D its basically got the same suspension as a hummer.. except on a smaller scale

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Tell your "friend" that he needs to learn to deal with his paranoia before anything.

Him and SWIM should be friends.

/lame