hey i wanna try the "XTC"!

[serra]

ok, so i claim empress of queen of the MDMA forums, and i nominate xaosxflux to co run the joint with me! hee hee, just kidding kids.


just seems that we answer the same questions all the time, so i'm going to write all the answers i ever give RIGHT HERE, and refer people back! hee hee hee.

HOW TO DO E:

1. know your source. know your body. know you mind. and know this site. www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org) ; go and do your reading before you ask anything.
2. you will be greatly influenced by your surroundings. be with good people. have some good music. and have some fun.
3. drug dealers are sketchy. know yours.
4. drugs mixed with other drugs can screw with you. know what you are doing. once again; www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org)
5. serotonin and 5-HTP are your friends.
6. water is your friend. but too much water is not.
7. don't have anything productive scheduled for tomorrow.
8. meth is not your friend. raves are. because raves are cool.
9. MDMA and heart problems/kidney/liver problems/ depression/ MAOIs/alcohol are silly things to mix together. please think before you do.
10. RESPECT MDMA. it is a special gift and if you abuse it, it can abuse you.



thanks for tuning in and have a PLUR-er-RRRRiFiC day! =)

[AreYouExperienced]

:D Thanks, nice list, hopefully this will help out some of the younger experimenters. ;) I'd also like to reiterate the point about good music.. music can really affect your mood while rolling, so make sure you've got your favorite tunes lined up. Happy rolling!

[madboy139]

don't worry about ingesting too much water. the more the better. it HELPS you. your body NEEDS it.

[Sugar Magnolia]

do you think dancesafe.com is a reliable enough website?

[eat_some_LSD]

Ooo, pretty colors. :p *lol*

Actually, it's been discovered that H20 is neither healthy or harmful in your body; it's a neutral substance, that, in excessive dosages, can cause electrolyte dissolution causing hallucinations and severe problems in your nervous system. Enough of that, though.

Anywho, maybe you should add a few things:
-MDMA does NOT cause holes in your brain, nor give you Parkinson's disease
-There are no such things as "double" and "triple"-stack pills; these are simple marketing schemes, just look over them


Erm, yeah, that's about it. ;)

@SuperMagnolia: DanceSafe is extremely reliable; however, there are definite procedures to follow when looking up pills on Dancesafe, EcstasyData, PillReports, etc.:

-Look for nearby metros; if it's not in-state, it's no good to you
-Look for submission date; if it's not been submitted within the past 2 months, it's no good to you
-Look for pictures and/or descriptions that match your pill to the slightest touches; look for scores (breaklines on the back of the pill), whether the pill is stamped or imprinted, and most of all, speckling; EXACT color and overall quality of the pill are mainly effects from mishandling from your pusher, and shouldn't be taken into consideration, so long as they match the basic guidelines of the pill being described.

Have fun. ;)

[madboy139]

how the fuck are you defining healthy? try not ingesting any water for a while and see what happens. it is NECESSARY FOR LIFE. it's the reason there is life on this planet. and most ravers are not going to consume enough water to cause hallucinations. eight glasses a day is the recommended dosage, more if you're drinking caffeine/alcohol or using diuretic drugs. noone is going to hurt themselves at a rave from drinking TOO MUCH water. too many people get hurt drinking too little.

and whether or not MDMA is neurotoxic is UNKNOWN because the dumb bastards fucked up the test.

[xaosflux]

First (((serra)))! "You may not give any more reputation points to Serra at this time!" :(


re: water::
eight glasses a day is recomended..but 8 glasses an hour is NOT....drink when your thristy, drink when youre in the chill out room (sip dont gulp) drink when your sweating, dont drink compulsevley because you were told that you must drink all the water you can...

Drinking TOO much water is harmful as it depeltes your body of things that it needs as it is flushing all the water out of you.

[serra]

First (((serra)))! "You may not give any more reputation points to Serra at this time!" :(



awww *blush* hee hee. :)


too much water theroretically could make a person sick. if you are at a party and dancing hard in a hot room and on e, then it's not bloody likely that you are going to overhydrate youself. a good tip to always remember is: GATORADE. i NEVER drink this stuff normally, nor do i generally endorse consumption of evil corporation type bevvies, but DAMN. this stuff was soo amazing for me last weekend. i had an upset stomach (kinda indigestion/heartburn type thing) and i kept drinking water to try and make it better. it didn't help, didn't help, and eventually someone offered me some gatorade or poweraide or whatever and it made me all better.

my point being, that it is important to mix in other kinds of healthy liquids like juice (mmm) because... i'm not all dietician here, but your body sweats out salts and things and these drinks can help replace them! (and also they taste hella sweet!) :p

[eat_some_LSD]

Exactly my point, Serra and Xaos, thanks for teh backup. ;)

No H20 is NOT healthy for you. Look at ANY bottled water...and tell me what the fxcking "Nutritional Facts" say. You know what they say?

0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0...and 2000% daily diet of....you guessed it, 0.

And too much can cause nervous system problems...I'm not going to get into it all again, UTFSE.

Like Serra said, drink something healthy, unlike water, and more like...OJ, or sparkling apple juice is a favorite, and expensive, drink of mine. ;)

[serra]

i like sparkly peach juice personally myself. the "life" brand which is carried in shoppers drug mart particularly - it's under a dollar for a litre and tastes super good and has like 4 calories in a bottle! mmmmm..... peach.


(i'm drinking one right now!)

[xaosflux]

MMMMMMMM Blue Powerade R0cxers!

[day_tripper77]

don't worry about ingesting too much water. the more the better.
um.. actually, you can die if you drink too much water just as easily as when you dont drink enough. when you drink too much water, it depletes the level of salt in your body.

the second time i rolled, i had already drank a lot of water due to cotton-mouth, and then my friend found out that i hadnt eaten in several hours and made me eat a cracker, which only made my mouth more dry so i drank even more water.. luckily all that happened was that i puked up water and cracker crumbs...

something like gatorade or powerad is good because it helps keep your electrolyte levels up.. juice is good also - personally i like orange juice best.. but, i wouldnt reccomend replacing water with sports drinks or juice, just alternate. after you finish your first bottle of water, have a glass of juice or whatever... or if you stick to plain water, eat something salty every once in a while, like a cracker or a chip or something just to be on the safe side so you wont become overhydrated..


happy rolling:D

[JiveViper]

One thing to add about gatorade. I recommend buying the powder then mixing it on your on. Only mix about half to 3/4 the amount it says on the box thing into the water. When you add the full amount it has too much sugar and can end up dehydrating you even more if you drink too much. Although I have never done E(planning on it), we do this in soccer, the trainer person told us.

[serra]

i wonder if my affinity for gatorade will continue on or if it was just a one night stand?

[Guru420]

Nor Cal Sierra?

(and also they taste hella sweet!)
SO CAALLLLLL WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[RivertranceJamGirl]

Hey hey, one here from NorCal! hello SoCal!


I usually go for an electrolyte enhanced water (sold at health food stores) and then on with regular water. The electrolytes keep the salts in your body (or something like that)

[serra]

Nor Cal Sierra?


SO CAALLLLLL WOOOOOOOOOOOO


...what?








mmmmm..... electrolights....

[Guru420]

I though only people from Nor Cal said "hella", but It looks like you're canadian

[Guru420]

How is Canada? Is it the magic wonderland that I've dreamed of?

[WeeDMaN]

Lets just say, B.C Buds are extremely potent, Hash and Hash oil is available all over canada. Esspecially B.C. I love CANADA!!!

[serra]

hash??? WHERE!!!??!?!?!?! *drools*



havent had any out my way for a looong time!


canada is pretty cool, way better than the USA i think (no ofense but...... really!) but i definatly want to do some travelling!

[cotter builds]

well heres my little bit on X.....make sure youre not allergic to opiates, some pills have small amounts of an opiate in some form....they can make you ridiculosly sick, or even kill ya.....make sure youre not allergic to em....like codiene....

[RivertranceJamGirl]

Guru420: helloooooo down there>>>>>>southern california!


serra: heehee...:) Sierra Nevada, they are the mountain range in California, they stretch on the eastern side from the tippy top of CA hitting southern CA. I live in between Lake tahoe and Chico....in the Sierra Nevadas. Hmmmm. not unlike Serra, very nice name BTW!
Goodies are gooooood around here, lots of growing herb and making hash. Its very nice to read informative posts on this site. keep up the good work!

[serra]

thanks! :) i will! :D

[Purple Haze]

don't worry about ingesting too much water. the more the better. it HELPS you. your body NEEDS it.Not really cause sometimes if you drink too much water for the amount of pills you are taking then you begin to feel nausea and sometimes slow down a bit and wanna sit down instead of dancing all night...you also begin to feel a bit dizzy and kinda sleepy..and an uncofterable feeling comes over you and your legs get tired easily,well that normally happens when the effects are calming down but too much water can cause that too...also too much water can cause your death from an overdose...you have to learn to know your body and when you know that it's just enough...it's better to never sit down while doing X...to try and stay up dancing for long periods of time with short breaks and during the breaks try not to drink that much water cause then you can get a bit dizzy...there are more tricks concerning things and other stuff about X and it's effects and how to improve them...with time and experience you'll make your own analiysis and you'll understand what I'm talking about....your body for itself will show you...

[Purple Haze]

how the fuck are you defining healthy? try not ingesting any water for a while and see what happens. it is NECESSARY FOR LIFE. it's the reason there is life on this planet. and most ravers are not going to consume enough water to cause hallucinations. eight glasses a day is the recommended dosage, more if you're drinking caffeine/alcohol or using diuretic drugs. noone is going to hurt themselves at a rave from drinking TOO MUCH water. too many people get hurt drinking too little.

and whether or not MDMA is neurotoxic is UNKNOWN because the dumb bastards fucked up the test.
How could you say that!! a person could hurt themselves from too much water...you could die from that...believe me...look it up.....and it does cause hallucinations when using pills and having a bit too much but not an overdose but almost there..it's happened to me....and people do get hurt drinking too little too...like I said before all you have todo is know your body and control it...don't let yourself get carried away by the thrist....lollypops help...ciggeretter also, at least for me...chocolate....suckable candies.....gum....it all depends on your body's needs....

[Purple Haze]

awww *blush* hee hee. :)


too much water theroretically could make a person sick. if you are at a party and dancing hard in a hot room and on e, then it's not bloody likely that you are going to overhydrate youself. a good tip to always remember is: GATORADE. i NEVER drink this stuff normally, nor do i generally endorse consumption of evil corporation type bevvies, but DAMN. this stuff was soo amazing for me last weekend. i had an upset stomach (kinda indigestion/heartburn type thing) and i kept drinking water to try and make it better. it didn't help, didn't help, and eventually someone offered me some gatorade or poweraide or whatever and it made me all better.

my point being, that it is important to mix in other kinds of healthy liquids like juice (mmm) because... i'm not all dietician here, but your body sweats out salts and things and these drinks can help replace them! (and also they taste hella sweet!) :pTrue at raves..while you're on e....energy drinks do help out more then water itself although sometimes your body could get sink of them and ask for water...but for me energy drinks are better...they even help the boost of e a bit...it definitely helps...red bull works real good for me...

[serra]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm red bull.

[JohnnyATL]

Red bull is terrible for you if you are gonna be sweating alot its only sugar and caffinee (sp)

[xPi]

You're terrible, probably because you sweat alot. :P
Caffeine is good for anyone who plans on staying awake for an entire night, dancing and moving and running around. It's not bad, but it's important to remember one key word: moderation. Yes, kiddies: MO-DER-A-TION.

And I have a question, I forget who posted the fact that "there is no such thing ad double- and triple-stacked pills." Is that the truth? I know I've seen pills that are a lot thicker than your average bear, so what's up with that?

And my final blurb- E is great. If you're curious, my suggestion is to try it, but be with someone who's going to know what you need and when you need it. It's important to make damn good and sure that your first time is a dandy one. :)


Red bull is terrible for you if you are gonna be sweating alot its only sugar and caffinee (sp)

[PhotoGra1]

Just to clear a few things up:
(1) MDMA IS neurotoxic. All drugs kill brain cells, ecstacy attacks them. The unusually high levels of serotonin it releases is very damaging to brain tissue. A lot of a good thing is often bad, such as Vitamin A, to much ruins your liver. Also, oxygen is one of the most corrosive substances on the planet. Look at what it does to certain metals! If the percent was much higher in our atmosphere, we would die.

(2) It IS possible to lethally overdose on water, theoretically. You would have to consume 3 to 4 gallons of water. You would likely puke first. It is much safer to make an erorr & consume too much water than to not consume enough. When you get thirsty, you are already dehydrated.

(3) Water IS healthy. You die within a few days without it! No nutritional content does not mean it is not healthy. Nutritional labels don't take things like hydration into consideration, only sugars, carbs, fats, fiber, vitamins and minerals. There is countless other things that contribute to health. Nutritional Information is supposed to be a helpful tool in determining the overall health value of an item. It is not gospel. It also does not list other nutrients, such as bioflavinoids or amino acids.