Intramuscular Dextromethorphan Injection (tonight!)

[Geneity]

I received 25 syringes the other day for ketamine that's coming sometime next week. i figured in the mean time why not try an I.M. injection of DXM? I have one pill left of pure DXM HBr powder. I'm way experienced with DXM, have had countless trips with pure, extracted, and cough medicine preparations. I saved this last pill just for this occasion. It contains about 300-350mg of DXM HBr.

Now I do have some questions and concerns about this. I have found as much as I could with Google about people injecting DXM. I saw one report on Erowid where the kid injected like over 1,000mg and ended up in the hospital after a completely insane trip. I've read it's only 150mg per 10mL soluble in water. If that's the case, injecting it is going to be a pain and the onset will be slow due to the need for like 3 injections of 10mL each (which is A LOT of liquid for injection, a fucking lot).

I've also read, on the other hand, 2 trip reports where the people simply cooked it up in a spoon and sucked it up and injected. Like 300mg per spoon. I'm pretty sure that's a lot less than 10mL (or 20+mL). I need to know, if anyone happens to know, how soluble it is in water actually. If no one knows I'll have to screw around to find out.

DXM is converted mainly into DXO before it hits the brain. DXO is said to be responsible for a lot of the nice effects, and DXM for the dissociation. I suppose I'm going to find out, as most of it will hit my brain as DXM. Excited for this though. just have to pick up some alcohol wipes and I'll be set. I just hope it's pretty water soluble.

[neodude1212]

I dunno man...

Injecting DXM has to be one of the sluttiest things you can do to your body.

I mean, I don't know, but it sure sounds like it.

say this outloud to yourself...

"I am going to inject myself with DXM."

[Geneity]

Why? Do you think DXM is a 'slutty' drug? If so then I'm sorry, it's not.

And I've said that out loud to myself multiple times already. lolz


I just want to see how similar to injected ketamine it is. Plus I'm always looking for new experiences. It promises to be at least somewhat interesting.

[Rudenoodle]

Good luck!

If you don't die bump this thread. :P

[neodude1212]

Why? Do you think DXM is a 'slutty' drug? If so then I'm sorry, it's not.


oh it totally is. we could get into the semantics of what it means to be a slutty drug next if that's what you want.

[orison319]

If that's the case, injecting it is going to be a pain and the onset will be slow due to the need for like 3 injections of 10mL each (which is A LOT of liquid for injection, a fucking lot).
are you ready for a abscess? hope that shit is clean.. http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=409569&postcount=10

[Geneity]

oh it totally is. we could get into the semantics of what it means to be a slutty drug next if that's what you want.

Oh why because it's in cough medicine? I suer hope that's not your reasoning.




And Orisin, Thanks for reminding me about that. I had actually forgotten. Everything is sterile but the DXM itself. That's why I'm going to cook it first. It's the best I can do.

I'm gonna write up a trip report too.

[MaryJBlaze]

I dunno man...

Injecting DXM has to be one of the sluttiest things you can do to your body.

I mean, I don't know, but it sure sounds like it.

say this outloud to yourself...

"I am going to inject myself with DXM."


:smilielol5:


that one's almost signature worthy:cheers2:

[orison319]

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/local_links.php?action=jump&id=3483&catid=50
I was thinking EtOH for sol. since Dxm isnt very h2o sol... wonder if that would make a dif in bioavail...
It was mentioned but no real details did it give.. If that shit gave you a K high with EtOH. I might just give it a shot wtf.. :)

[Geneity]

I don't have pure ethanol to dissolve in. And no way to get it. Damn being underage. =(

I know water will work, it might just be a pain in the ass. And is DXM's melting point really 126F? I've boiled it in water before and had one of the most intense trips of my life. Water boils at 212F. People need to get their facts straight.

[orison319]

bottled water, I dont think your going to have a problem, Ive heard worse things used for water source...
Do you alawys drink every drop of alcohol you have around :(
While your doing these little experiments you should have a some lab works that you can always rely on...


it might just be a pain in the ass
is this the injection site??? :lol:

[Mr.Writer]

Interesting! I hope it goes flawlessly :)

Be safe and have fun

[Geneity]

bottled water, I dont think your going to have a problem, Ive heard worse things used for water source...
Do you alawys drink every drop of alcohol you have around :(
While your doing these little experiments you should have a some lab works that you can always rely on...

is this the injection site??? :lol:

What part of underage is hard to understand? I never HAVE alcohol around, but any illegal drug is easy to get. Fail.

Anyway this'll be happening in a little while.

How do you suggest I heat the DXM? Use a spoon? Maybe mix 10mL of water with it and put it in the microwave? Haha.

[jham86]

i'd use a spoon and a syringe full of water. if water doesn't break it down lemon juice or vinegar will. haven't ever tried to inject ingredients in cough syrup before nor did i ever think i'd be giving someone pointers on how to do it. far out.

[DonaSoledad]

Good luck I guess. Have a nice trip and do not die.

[Geneity]

i'd use a spoon and a syringe full of water. if water doesn't break it down lemon juice or vinegar will. haven't ever tried to inject ingredients in cough syrup before nor did i ever think i'd be giving someone pointers on how to do it. far out.

lol who is stupid enough to inject cough medicine? I have nearly pure powder.

Alright well I'm gonna go to CVS and get some alcohol wipes. Gonna see how this stuff takes to water and I'll post before I do it. I hope I don't get sick or die. lol :(

[FireflyInTheDark]

I don't come into these threads often, but I'm kind of interested in seeing how this all works out...
Not that I'm looking into trying myself, but as a biologist, I'm kind of surious what this is going to do to you.
Also, as a sufferer of general and social anxiety who has random spells of dissociation without any chemical stimulation, I'm wondering why anyone in their right mind would try to induce it. I've never found it a pleasant feeling.
"It's like... I'm outside of myself, maaaaaaan."
Never liked it. Always feel like I'm pounding on the door trying to get back in. :(
Whatever. I, like the others, will be interested in hearing your experience.

[pedaltopedal]

Geneity, what salt is the DXM in those pills? HCL or HBr? Just curious mostly.

I wonder if its going to burn badly when IMed. I've heard pure DXM burns like nothing else if snorted (For anyone curious, don't bother trying to snort DXM. It doesn't absorb properly since it is not very water soluble. So snorting it is not an effective way to ingest it).

I hope this proves to be a good way to take it. Getting almost all the DXM into your brain instead of the DXO would be ideal.

[Geneity]

Dude, even if you could snort DXM I would fucking LOVE to see someone rail a line of it and then start lurching and gagging and puking their guts out. It's INTENSELY bitter. Incredibly disgusting. It makes me gag with the slightest taste. GAG.

it's the Hydrobromide salt.

[pedaltopedal]

Lol! Yea... its horribly disgusting alright. I've tried tasting extracted DXM that I converted to DXM hcl and it was intensly bitter and disgusting. I think you'd have to be a fool to try and snort that stuff, lol.

I wonder if there is some other solution you could use. Something that DXM is more soluble in that is also safe to IM. That way you wouldn't have to use so much damn water. I know you said you don't have any access to ethanol, but maybe theres something else you could use. I'll look around some.

I am very interested in this experiment. I hope it goes well. Good luck :)

[Geneity]

So it seems the solubility really is like 150mg/10mL. I'll have to do it in 2 pretty big injections. Ugh. But whatever, it's fine. I heated the water to boiling and waited for it to stop, added the DXM, mixed it, and sucked it up into the syringe. The other dose is in the shot glass still. Needle is still sealed.

Within the next half hour I'll be doing this. I have to wait for my mom to come home first, meh. I'll let people know how the injections go and have a little time log of what's going on

[porkstock41]

well i know you already said you can't get alcohol, but if somehow you found a way to get pure (meaning 100%, 200 proof)...
do not ingest or inject it. they use benzene to get the alcohol that pure, and benzene is a potent carcinogen.

[porkstock41]

have to wait for my mom to come home first, meh. I'll let people know how the injections go and have a little time log of what's going on

is she gonna be your trip sitter?

[Geneity]

Thanks for the advice. Yeah Ethanol can only get to like 98% or something before you need to do some crazy thing to make it 100%. I'd just use everclear if I could get it. Anyway the DXM is all in water now so it doesn't matter.

And no, she would not approve of what I'm doing. Honestly I don't need a trip sitter. Never did. A lot of psychedelic experience and a lot of dissociative experience. I would absolutely have a sitter for a delierient, but I wouldn't touch that class of drugs ever again.

[neodude1212]

hey yo, you should inject that shit right into your head.

[Geneity]

Hey if you're gonna be a douche, how about not posting.

Thanks.

[jham86]

lol who is stupid enough to inject cough medicine? I have nearly pure powder.


yeah that would be stupid. i said ingredients in cough syrup though.

[neodude1212]

Hey if you're gonna be a douche, how about not posting.

Thanks.


???

I'm for real yo, that shit hits you mad fast, and it's soooooo W!LD.

[Geneity]

And the difference would be? It's not like what I have is extracted, it's synthesized and pure.

I would never EVER inject an extraction. God knows if there's ammonia or naphtha left over in it.

[*kushbaby*]

Good luck I guess. Have a nice trip and do not die.

bah ha ha... do not die i love it

[does2]

hey yo, you should inject that shit right into your head.

How about that huge vein on our penis....?
Curl my hair and call me cry baby, I'd shoot it in the dick.

Man up OP, go big or go home.

[jham86]

oh idk i thought that dxm is an ingredient in cough medicine.

[Geneity]

Fuck all you haters

[jham86]

Fuck all you haters

you sound edgy man, did you shot up your dxm yet?

[neodude1212]

Fuck all you haters

yeah bro, sorry about that.

we are just used to people in this forum having a sense of humor.

[does2]

Fuck all you haters

Great start for a trip.

[Geneity]

Here it goessssss.

No I haven't. Just had lots of caffeine today so yes I am a little edgy. Lol. Caffeine does weird nasty things to me.

Plus it's a little hard to tell your tone when all I'm doing is reading what you typed. Ya know? Sorry =P



Getting pretty sick of waiting.

[does2]

Here it goessssss.

No I haven't. Just had lots of caffeine today so yes I am a little edgy. Lol. Caffeine does weird nasty things to me.

Plus it's a little hard to tell your tone when all I'm doing is reading what you typed. Ya know? Sorry =P



Getting pretty sick of waiting.

DXM is for when you are sick!

No more waiting, CHARGE!

[neodude1212]

no problem man.

good luck with the trip.

[Geneity]

I would but my mom comes in here and talks to me, then goes upstairs. Since I'm not sure how strong this is gonna be, I don't wanna be retarded when she comes in.

I know, I sound like a 14 year old, lol.

[jham86]

no honestly i think it's not really bright to do that, but it's just my opinion. but way to be a guinea pig for the rest of the people who have thought about doing this.

[Geneity]

Other's have done it before me. I have an idea of what's going to happen. I've read a few trip reports.

[jham86]

oh ok well that's good. at first i thought you thought of this idea by yourself.

[Geneity]

I'm not that brave, lol


Alright soon. The moment is finally upon us, for anyone who's still watching. Just 5-10 more minutes. Eeeeek.

[neodude1212]

yo geneity, you gonna stay on the forums to give the play-by-play, live action update?

[pedaltopedal]

Set up your web cam and microphone. Lets get a live feed going for this... lol.

J/k man. I hope it doesn't burn too bad.

[Geneity]

Alright all of it is inside me now. Though there's a big lump in my leg where I injected it. I'm pretty fucking concerned about that.

T+5 - I'm starting to feel it. Feels almost exactly the way ketamine feels when it first introduces itself.

[Geneity]

And yeah, it does burn a little, but not all that much.

t+5 - NOW it's probably been 5 minutes. Not much is happening. I feel a little off, like something is about to come on, but not much.

These PrecisionGlide needles are amazing. Almost no pain when puncturing the skin.

[pedaltopedal]

Though there's a big lump in my leg where I injected it.

You could try massaging the muscle gently. That should help it disperse and absorb a little better as well as possibly helping it to not be so sore later.

[Geneity]

You could try massaging the muscle gently. That should help it disperse and absorb a little better as well as possibly helping it to not be so sore later.


That was my first instinct. I did, and it went away mostly.

T+9 - starting to feel it a little more. Feeling a little woosy (stomach) and my mouth is dry. Heart rate has increased. Honestly I don't think this is going to go anywhere judging from my ketamine experiences. Feeling it, definately, but it's nothing to write home about. Oral would've provided much more of a high at this point. We'll see how it develops.

[Geneity]

t+13 - starting to feel the somnolace that comes with the onset of a DXM trip. Getting the same body feeling as oral when it's onsetting. Stomach feels a bit worse. If I had injected more, I might've gotten pretty nauseous.

Oh, and the injection location was my right thigh. That's where I always IM.

[AcidConspiracy]

well it's about midnight.
no reports yet.
ready to throw the BS flag anyone?

i mean, really. would YOU be dumb enough to shoot up DXM? with your mom 15 feet away?

also. this kid has got literally no clue about using points. no experiance. lets hope to hell that this kid is not so great a fiend that he does this to himself.

This "experiment" is not about research, or about achieving something that only a blessed few ever will. It's evidence of a mindset that spells trouble- and it's abusing an over-the-counter cold remedy for no other purpose than the novelty and some hope that it will take him higher. that's a junkie mentality.

I wish i'd come across this thread earlier, and i hope it's not too late. i hope he talked himself out of it. i hope his mom's not at his bedside in the hospital right now.

[Geneity]

t+20 - nausea is starting to become a problem. If it gets worse I'll probably puke. I guess I should've had a full stomach like I have to have when taking it orally, that seems to eliminate nausea. It's a little stronger now. It's developing very, very slowly. Maybe because I injected like 12+mL of water. Ketamine takes 1-2mL. It's starting to feel more like a DXM trip now.

[AcidConspiracy]

i stand corrected. as i was writing he WAS doing this to himself apparently.

kid, stay away from needles. take it from a guy that's been there and done it all. Leave the cough medicine for when you have a cough, are you THAT desperate to get a buzz that you can't wait for your ketamine? (THAT shit is no joke be careful)

please man, just think about shit. this shit's not making you look cool, and its terribel that folks on the forum have encourage this

[Geneity]

well it's about midnight.
no reports yet.
ready to throw the BS flag anyone?

i mean, really. would YOU be dumb enough to shoot up DXM? with your mom 15 feet away?

also. this kid has got literally no clue about using points. no experiance. lets hope to hell that this kid is not so great a fiend that he does this to himself.

This "experiment" is not about research, or about achieving something that only a blessed few ever will. It's evidence of a mindset that spells trouble- and it's abusing an over-the-counter cold remedy for no other purpose than the novelty and some hope that it will take him higher. that's a junkie mentality.

I wish i'd come across this thread earlier, and i hope it's not too late. i hope he talked himself out of it. i hope his mom's not at his bedside in the hospital right now.

I would explain to you all the things wrong with your post but right now I'm not willing to argue. PM me tomorrow.

[CherokeeMist]

i stand corrected. as i was writing he WAS doing this to himself apparently.

kid, stay away from needles. take it from a guy that's been there and done it all. Leave the cough medicine for when you have a cough, are you THAT desperate to get a buzz that you can't wait for your ketamine? (THAT shit is no joke be careful)

please man, just think about shit. this shit's not making you look cool, and its terribel that folks on the forum have encourage this

what's the difference? just because something is in cough medicine and drinking it is an easy, reliable way to get the chemical, doesn't make everyone who tries it a junkie.

but that's irrelevant because he's not using cough medicine. he's using Dextromethorphan powder, if you want to get technical.

[pedaltopedal]

Relax dude. People IM various psychedelics all the time. This is not junkie mentality when approached with care and responsibility. Geneity did his homework before attempting this. He also has lots of experience with this substance prior, as well as experience IMing ketamine.

There is a reason why he is attempting this, and it has to do with how DXM is metabolized in the body. Both DXM and DXM's metabolite DXO are active. They have different effects on the brain. DXM is more desirable for its effects. When taken orally, a significant portion of the DXM is converted to DXO before crossing the blood brain barrier. He is interested in seeing if IMing the substance will provide a better high by allowing less to be metabolized to DXO. This is an experiment, and frankly, I think its very exciting.

Geneity is not just some reckless kid either. ;)

EDIT: Eh.. My memory on DXO and DXM is obviously a little fuzzy. I got some of what I said backwards. For clarification and correction, read this. Its on DXO and is from erowid:

Dextrorphan is a metabolite of DXM (i.e., the body converts DXM to dextrorphan). The conversion from DXM to DXO occurs via removal of the methyl group at position 6, a process called "O-demethylation". DXO is very similar chemically to DXM, and reacts with the same receptors in the body, but with a very different spectrum. Whereas DXM is strongest at the PCP2 and sigma receptors, DXO primarily targets the NMDA receptor (see Section 10).

The practical upshot is that the dissociative and intoxicating or "stoning" effects are stronger with DXO, whereas the stimulation, cognitive alterations, delusions, and psychotomimetic (literally, "psychosis-like") effects are stronger with DXM. Most DXM users find some balance between the two to be the most pleasurable. Too much sigma activity is usually regarded as dysphoric (strongly unpleasant) and disturbing, and if prolonged, may be dangerous (101,135).

Fortunately, you don't have to worry about converting DXM to DXO; the body does it for you via an enzyme called P450-2D6 or CYP2D6 (also called debrisoquine 4-hydroxylase). However, between 5 to 10% of the Caucasian population lacks this enzyme (12-15), and in the rest of us it can vary. Many drugs can temporarily block P450-2D6 from working (10-11) and thus alter the balance between DXM and DXO. For a list of these drugs, see Section 15.1.

One of DXM's metabolites, 3-methoxymorphinan, can itself block P450-2D6. As a consequence, taking a second dose some time after the first dose of DXM will probably increase the ratio of DXM to DXO in the bloodstream. Taking the dose all at once, on the other hand, will probably increase the relative amount of DXO. Generally, then, the quicker the dosing, the more DXO and less DXM, and the more NMDA blockade (like ketamine) and the less sigma and PCP2 activity. Subcutaneous injection leads to very little conversion from DXM to DXO.

When discussing effects, this text usually uses "DXM" to refer to both dextromethorphan and its metabolite, DXO. A few people have used DXO specifically; one indicated that it did in fact have fewer cognitive effects than DXM


http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_general_info.shtml

[Geneity]

t+33 - It's a little heavier now. Probably equivalent to an oral dose of the same size. Very odd.

[Geneity]

Relax dude. People IM various psychedelics all the time. This is not junkie mentality when approached with care and responsibility. Geneity did his homework before attempting this. He also has lots of experience with this substance prior, as well as experience IMing ketamine.

There is a reason why he is attempting this, and it has to do with how DXM is metabolized in the body. Both DXM and DXM's metabolite DXO are active. They have different effects on the brain. DXM is more desirable for its effects. When taken orally, a significant portion of the DXM is converted to DXO before crossing the blood brain barrier. He is interested in seeing if IMing the substance will provide a better high by allowing less to be metabolized to DXO. This is an experiment, and frankly, I think its very exciting.

Geneity is not just some reckless kid either. ;)

Exactly what I would've said in a nutshell.

Thanks a lot for this =)

[orison319]

Geneity is not just some reckless kid either. ;)

I agree... :)

[Geneity]

Alright guys well it's holding steady. Not a failure, but I'd of rather had a small amount of ethanol to dissolve it in.

However judging from this and reports I've read the oral and I.M. doses seem to be pretty similar (in amount). I'm only getting threshold effects right now so I can't really compare the DXM and DXO trips.

Fuck. I did fail. Because that was the point.

Oh well. I think I injected around 250-300mg.

Notes: Don't use water, use ethanol (a SMALL amount). I don't think I'll do this again. It's simply not worth the risk of injection and the process of getting it into liquid and worrying about sterilization and stuff.

It feels pretty much exactly like a dose of oral does. EXACTLY. Injection simply makes no sense in this case. None whatsoever.

[Geneity]

Alright guys well it's holding steady. Not a failure, but I'd of rather had a small amount of ethanol to dissolve it in.

However judging from this and reports I've read the oral and I.M. doses seem to be pretty similar (in amount). I'm only getting threshold effects right now so I can't really compare the DXM and DXO trips.

Fuck. I did fail. Because that was the point.

Oh well. I think I injected around 250-300mg.

Notes: Don't use water, use ethanol (a SMALL amount). I don't think I'll do this again. It's simply not worth the risk of injection and the process of getting it into liquid and worrying about sterilization and stuff.

It feels pretty much exactly like a dose of oral does. EXACTLY. Injection simply makes no sense in this case. None whatsoever.

Oops I'm an idiot. Whatever.

EDIT::::::

T+73m - Smoked a nice grav hit of some good mids. The high is pretty awesome now. Makes the pot "dissociativy", not really like DXM but more like a component of the weed. It's odd. And noticed respiratory depression. Pretty annoying actually.

[draco H.]

very interesting experiment, contemplating whether i should stay up and follow your trip.

[pedaltopedal]

Interesting, and kinda sad. I was hoping for better results.

I wonder if the fact that dxm isn't all that water soluble has anything to do with your results. Since you had to use so much water, I'm going to assume that probably delayed absorption a bit... possibly explaining why you didnt really notice much increase in effects over an equivalent oral dose. I really don't know for sure though, just thinking out loud.

Maybe using a tiny bit of alcohol instead would be better. Can that be IMed safely? What about saline? I think the DXM would be more soluble in it, but I dont know if its ok to IM that stuff (Im a noob when it comes to IM).

[Geneity]

t+88m - Eh, you know the DXM was pretty disappointing to say the least. I mean I do still feel it as I was before but I was expecting more dissociation. Since the oral and I.M. doses feel the same I suppose If I I.M'd like 900mg, I'd get heavy dissociative effects. NOt bothering on that one. I don't feel good about injecting this stuff, and that lump that was present on my thigh. That never happened with ketamine which is sterile in vials, so I'll stick to that from now on.

[Geneity]

t+90 - well I forgot to mention a heaviness in the hands that isn't present with weed alone. Everything is generally strange right now. The weed definitely kicked up the trip in an interesting way. But I love doing that orally too. Blah.

[Geneity]

Well it's been an hour and 45 minutes and the DXM is just being very mild. I think ethanol would've worked better for a transporter as opposed to water. But injecting ethanol probably sucks really bad.

Goin' to take another gravity bong hit...

'till next time I guess.

[AcidConspiracy]

Look, I wasn't trying to be a dick, I am genuinely concerned. back in '04 i was getting 20 gram vials of DXM HBR powder. I started using IV drugs in '06. I have been there and done that, and this thread really disturbs me. There's no sense in doing DXM by shooting it up. If you IV it you are in for a world of pain....trust me.

DXM isn't worth doing for recreation. It's a lousy high at best and at worst it can cause some nasty long term side effects like cough medicine not working anymore, some HPPD, and psycosomatic induced nausea from looking at or thinking of dxm-containing products. you know how it tastes, seriously, you think it's good to inject into yourself?

OK so maybe its not my place to try to talk you out of it, but please respect my opinion because it is based on first-hand experience. I'm not your mom, but i imagine she'd be rather confused if you told her about shooting cough medicine into your leg so you'd hallucinate and go outside your body...for fun.

[Mr.Writer]

this shit's not making you look cool

That was never, is never, will never, and should never be a concern for anybody, anywhere, anytime, in any circumstance.

Thanks for a wonderful experiment Gen, good to add that piece of knowledge to my cranium "IM DXM not worth it".

Cheers :cheers2:

[Rudenoodle]

Alright all of it is inside me now.


Just seemed worth quoting for some reason...

[Geneity]

Hahah I was waiting for someone to notice that.

[orison319]

I expected better results... disappointed am I..

Thanks for being level headed Gene... :)

[does2]

Just seemed worth quoting for some reason...

I always thought you were gay, gay whad.

Geneity, I was just pulling your leg last night... a hefty amount of Hator-ade usually does that.
Obviously I came back to see how it went, and it was "nothing to write home about".

You shoulda went with the love muscle.

[Geneity]

Lol cock injection.

[pedaltopedal]

I dont want to even think about what happens if you accidentally fuxor up while trying to inject into the big vien on your noodly doodle. After that the injection site scabs over. Then the next time you get an erection it just rips right open again and squirts blood all over the place. :eek:

[does2]

I dont want to even think about what happens if you accidentally fuxor up while trying to inject into the big vien on your noodly doodle. After that the injection site scabs over. Then the next time you get an erection it just rips right open again and squirts blood all over the place. :eek:

Eeeek :eek:

That would be a lot of cold showers.

[Trips509]

I am just curious as I have no knowledge about injecting drugs. Why did you decide to do it IM instead of IV? Like what is the difference?

[Geneity]

IV is really dangerous compared to IM. IM can be done with little knowledge, just being careful, but a LOT of things can go wrong when IVing. In my eyes, it's not worth the risks.

[orison319]

I am just curious as I have no knowledge about injecting drugs. Why did you decide to do it IM instead of IV? Like what is the difference?


You dont want to shoot a drug like DXM directly in your vein, IV is going straight to the brain and heart..
The IM allows for some / a whole hell alot of absorbtion before the drug spreads out..
Many drugs will not work IM >cocaine will not work IM.. it will just numb the site.
Herion on the other hand could IM and still be felt by the user..Just not the full effect..

I dont think DXm is safe at all to go IV .. Plz dont try it..

[sam&ella]

Injecting dxm...no doubt it can be accomplished.
Hey, in the late 19th century people were tootin' strychnine.
Why not some new silly shit now?

[Trips509]

Well the reason I was asking about IM vs IV is because right now I am in the process of extracting psilocin/psilocybin from mushrooms. When it is done I was gonna have my girlfriend inject me with about 10mg IV. She is a phlebotomist that works in a hospital so she sticks needles in peoples vains everyday.
Then I saw this post about Injecting DXM IM so I was wondering what the difference was. Is it pretty much that IM is safer than IV only because you don't have to worry about hitting the vain and slower absorbtion rate? Not really worried about the injection as my girlfriend would be doing it for me and she is a pro. Also I have had lots of experience with mushrooms at pretty high doses (15 to 20 grams dried mushrooms). Thanks for the help and i am still doing research on this i'm not a dumbass, I like to be safe.

[Geneity]

Be careful about injecting extracted anything into your veins. You should know how to make the psilocin 99+% pure.

[i0-techno]

I appreciate the time and care that went into the knowledge that we all now share, bless you Geneity!!!!

[Geneity]

Yeah another thing for anyone who was thinking about giving this a shot (haha, pun).

I did notice that the entire day after the night I shot this stuff, I had a strange unnatural headache all day long. It was a dull pain that I had never experienced before. Then I remembered back to studies showing that IV and IM DXM (but not oral) causes brain lesioning in rats.

I'd have to say it causes some sort of brain damage in humans when taken these routes as well. And I only I.M.'d 250-300mg! As for being permanent in my case, I doubt it, but doing that even a few times could easily cause permanent brain damage, and DXM (or any drug for that matters) isn't worth that. If I were to try this again, I'd try like 800mg. But now I know I definitely won't.

Steer clear of this method and stick to oral.

[Geneity]

^ lol

[Mr.Writer]

People will create hierarchy and judgements in any medium they can, even drugs :D

Only LOSERS do dxm, duh :D

[salmon4me]

Well the reason I was asking about IM vs IV is because right now I am in the process of extracting psilocin/psilocybin from mushrooms. When it is done I was gonna have my girlfriend inject me with about 10mg IV.

I did notice that the entire day after the night I shot this stuff... [DXM]

OK I'm either getting really old, or you guys are F'ing crazy. LMAO :)

[Geneity]

It was more of an experiment to see how I would react as opposed to oral. Bypassing metabolism, letting more DXM hit my brain than DXO. Wasn't trying to get 'higher'.