Diphenhydramine/Benadryl

[MrDot]

So I've heard a few times that taking high doses of benadryl will cause halucinations etc etc. I can't find really any information on this, maybe you guys will know.

So Diphenhydramine is an Antihistamine, so wouldn't it be bad to take like 100+mg of this? I thought I read somewhere that Antihistamines are bad to abuse but I'm not positive! Has anyone here abused Benadryl before like you would with DXM containing products? The only active ingrediant in this box is the Diphenhydramine, so I don't know. Can someone help me out here?


::EDIT::

I hear people have some good experiences with this stuff, don't tell me no because some of your worse fears come out this way. I want to try it for the hallucinations, I love hallucinations, mainly good ones but it all depends on what they are. I just would like to know if its lethal at higher doses. I just found a box of Sominex, it's a sleeping aid with just Diphenhydramine as an active ingrediant so I'll try that tonight. God please, let me wake up!

[pedaltopedal]

No. Do some reading and some more research first. Delirants like Diphenhydramine are no where near pleasant to hallucinate from. It just doesn't feel good, it actually feels pretty horrible if you ask me. You will be delirious, have a hard time knowing what is real and what is a hallucination (this state can get you into a lot of trouble, I'm very serious... read some more trip reports) and you probably will have a hard time recalling a lot of it once its over.

Im very serious. Do some more research. It isn't just that "some of your worst fears come out"... that is the least of your worries.

Some people have to learn the hard way... don't be one of them.

[MrDot]

Well I did some digging, found more stories and have only one question, why is this any different than DXM? Like I never hear of emergancy trips with DXM?

[orison319]

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs11/11563/index.htm

[MrDot]

http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs11/11563/index.htm

So really, all that link told me is that there are dangers in certain ingrediant combos with DXM. I already know this, I have tried "robotripping" and when I do it I know to only use DXM only products. You can't really OD on DXM, I suppose my previous question was dumb because DXM and Diphenhydramine are two different ingrediants (duh), but when abused they have 2 different effects.

[pedaltopedal]

Yes, DXM is a dissociative while diphenhydramine is anticholergenic.

High doses of DXM cause dissociation. High dissociation leads to things like out of body experiences, hallicinations, etc. While under the influence of heavy doses of DXM, most people don't move around much... so it's sorta self limiting... its considerably safer in that regard.

Diphenhydramine is another story. High doses cause a delirum... kind of similiar to what happens when you get a really high fever (if you've ever had one). Hallicinations are very real... to the point where you cannot tell what is real anymore. You body is pretty much free to move around and do whatever the hell it wants... which is a dangerous thing considering the intensity and types of hallucinations that occur while delirous. It's not safe, and as I mentioned before it also feels pretty horrible (to me). Side effects often include (From wikipedia):

Like many other first-generation antihistamines, diphenhydramine is a potent anticholinergic agent. This leads to profound drowsiness as a very common side-effect, along with the possibilities of motor impairment (ataxia), dry mouth and throat, flushed skin, rapid or irregular heartbeat (tachycardia), blurred vision at nearpoint owing to lack of accommodation (cycloplegia), abnormal sensitivity to bright light (photophobia), pupil dilation (mydriasis), urinary retention (ischuria), constipation, difficulty concentrating, short-term memory loss, visual disturbances, hallucinations, irritability, itchy skin, confusion, erectile dysfunction, and delirium.

Really, its not fun at all. Very few people find that they want use it recreationally... most people won't go anywhere near it again after they try it the first time.

[DaPillMan420]

You will hallucinate and feel "stuck" going in and out ect.. My personal opinon is dont take alot of unisoms/benadryl. The effects are not that pleasent and can do real harm to your body. But if you do, BE SMART DONT OD

[DejaVoodoo]

Don't do it. I know lots of people who have and I'd say 4 out of 5 have had awful, near death experiences and came out of it somewhat traumatized, or not feeling "normal" months after. Not to mention it's much more dangerous in high doses than DXM.

[MrDot]

Alright, thank you everyone for the helpful responses. I suppose I wont try this out, expecially because I'm alone and that'd be even worse.

[pedaltopedal]

Glad you have reconsidered.

If you really want to see just how bad it can get on delirants, then you should read through some of the trip reports on erowid in the datura experiences vault :eek:.

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Datura.shtml

[st. stephen]

unless ur looking for seizures and bad times id stay away

[MrDot]

Yeah, I'm going to just stick with DXM.

Looking for trippy stuff untill acid flow is normal lol.

[Stephæ]

Don't leave just yet. I've done it multiple times at lower doses and at lower doses it's fine. I weigh 145 and small dosages that only give you minor hallucinations and a body high is great! Like everyone else said though, learn your dosing. And don't over do it! *shivers*

[CherokeeMist]

ugh... can't say dipenhydramine is always bad, but you realllly need to watch your dose.

at 75-150mg it's pretty nice- sedating, and orgasms are great at this dose.

but last night i made the mistake of going up to 250mg. i can say it was one of the most horrible nights of my life- it's about as fun as having an awful flu. my legs got so weak i couldn't walk, and i had an extreme dysphoria that's lasted through today. it pretty much felt like i was extremely ill and delerious... i couldn't lie down without coming close to a panic attack, and it was terrifying to even leave my bed to use the bathroom.

it's not a bad drug, just never go above 175mg or so, maybe even less- things get fucked up. i'm really hoping i'll get back to feeling normal soon(though it's obviously not as intense as i felt last night) but it's extremely unpleasant.

[Banx]

One of the times I tripped on benadry, I looked in the mirror and saw myself with a white face (like clown makeup), with blood dripping out of empty eye sockets, dead serious. The weird things is, my experience matched about million others to the TEE. Benadryl is bizarre in that alot of people experience almost the exact same thing during their trips... shadow people, bugs (spiders, ants), having long, detailed conversations with people who are not there, voices, etc. It really exposes people to hell on Earth, and its eerie how everybody's trip is so similiar, unlike acid or phenethylamines for example. Now just add to the fact that you think everything that I stated above is real, and there is no reason for anybody to want and do this drug. And if that doesn't keep you away, the terrible week/month long hangover-type feelings will.

[kil0]

One of the times I tripped on benadry, I looked in the mirror and saw myself with a white face (like clown makeup), with blood dripping out of empty eye sockets, dead serious. The weird things is, my experience matched about million others to the TEE. Benadryl is bizarre in that alot of people experience almost the exact same thing during their trips... shadow people, bugs (spiders, ants), having long, detailed conversations with people who are not there, voices, etc. It really exposes people to hell on Earth, and its eerie how everybody's trip is so similiar, unlike acid or phenethylamines for example. Now just add to the fact that you think everything that I stated above is real, and there is no reason for anybody to want and do this drug. And if that doesn't keep you away, the terrible week/month long hangover-type feelings will.

I tripped on benadryl once like 6 years ago and omg, i saw the shadow people! and the spiders, as well as leprachauns sitting on the trees! Thats all I remember before I blacked out lol.

[Banx]

I tripped on benadryl once like 6 years ago and omg, i saw the shadow people! and the spiders, as well as leprachauns sitting on the trees! Thats all I remember before I blacked out lol.

yeah those shadow people are fuckin creepy, there's a really demonic kinda feeling to them, at least from what it seemd like to me, it's a really evil type of drug on high doses. Another thing that was common were swirling blue fingerprint lookin patterns and clear wavy lines swirling about, though they were not apart of evey trip, they were apart of a good amount. You can see all the similiarities between trips if u read the erowid experience section on Benadryl/Diphenhydramine.

[Lxuke]

I took 500mg of this once and got an interesting body high. Made me feel really warm and while I was on it I didn't think it effected me cognitively much. I did hallucinate though. I was sitting in my room watching TV and I glanced over at the chair next to me only to see my friend Lucy sitting in it. I did a double take and she was gone...at the time this did not seem out of the ordinary. At one point I thought the room was filled with about 6 of my friends all laughing and having a good time, a moment later they were all gone. Overall it was mostly a neutral experience for me as I have only tried it once and that was over 1 year ago.

[Rudenoodle]

No. Do some reading and some more research first. Delirants like Diphenhydramine are no where near pleasant to hallucinate from. It just doesn't feel good, it actually feels pretty horrible if you ask me. You will be delirious, have a hard time knowing what is real and what is a hallucination (this state can get you into a lot of trouble, I'm very serious... read some more trip reports) and you probably will have a hard time recalling a lot of it once its over.

Im very serious. Do some more research. It isn't just that "some of your worst fears come out"... that is the least of your worries.

Some people have to learn the hard way... don't be one of them.

Ditto, I can almost guarantee that if that guy does it he wil feel like complete ass and just want to sleep it off.

Then you wake up feeling like complete ass the whole day.

[does2]

Ditto, I can almost guarantee that if that guy does it he wil feel like complete ass and just want to sleep it off.

Then you wake up feeling like complete ass the whole day.

Takes a certain kind of person to wake up feeling dumb after something like that. :confused:

[Mr.Writer]

Well I did some digging, found more stories and have only one question, why is this any different than DXM? Like I never hear of emergancy trips with DXM?

That's like asking why is cocaine different from marijuana. It's two completely distinct and unique drugs that are not even close to being in the same class. They are completely unrelated, thus a better question would be "How is dxm and benadryl alike in any way?". The answer is, they are not alike, in any way.

I tried a hallucinogenic dose a few years ago, wasn't too impressed because the hallucinations you get are just "normal" considering your state of mind, which is just fucked up beyond all recognition. Like, I wasn't even phased when my bed sheets turned into a cobra. I was just like, uh huh, can you please get on with it? It's an interesting experience and I personally have never even come close to getting in any kind of trouble with it, it's not too hard to just stay in your fucking room and don't do anything stupid. I don't know what kinds of doses these people are taking where they do the most retarded shit imaginable, but IMO it's a reflection of the user. I just can't assimilate their trip reports with my experiences. Are these the kinds of people who get into barfights with strangers when they get drunk? I don't understand.

[i0-techno]

SO this is the active ingredient in Benedryl? Sounds like something I would try.

[NiNLedTooLPorcupines]

it's alright in low doses if you're just looking for something to try. like maybe around 125mg. Good effects: Music sounds excellent, great orgasms, kinda relaxing, mild hallucinations
But the side effects outweight almost everything else: Dry mouth, jumpiness, irritability, feeling of uneasiness, creepy things out of the corner of your eyes.. and for whatever reason, i get a ton of little aches and pains during it, whatever the dose..

[Stephæ]

Aww man I can't believe you guys. I guess I'm just over the fucking top different then most everyone else with this drug. I love the demonic feelings and just the fucked-upness of dph. It's so sinister.

[i0-techno]

Seeing for self in a bit. Was wondering if it o k to start off tired, or better after a rest?

[Stephæ]

it lasts a while to get the full trip down and experienced do it during the day after rest.

[i0-techno]

sweet thanks.

[MrDot]

I'm not really interested in this anymore, when you're in the mindstate of thinking "hey what I'm seeing is real" well thats just scary. If I can't tell the difference, then thats just dumb and scary.

[Mr.Writer]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that this is probably the single best orgasm enhancer I know. You know how orgasms feel on marijuana at their best? Well take that, x10, and always. Getting there might be hard cuz youre falling asleep and its hard to stay hard, but once you pop . . . holy fucking shit.

[Stephæ]

I'm not really interested in this anymore, when you're in the mindstate of thinking "hey what I'm seeing is real" well thats just scary. If I can't tell the difference, then thats just dumb and scary.

It's not that hard to realize it's just the dph man. It's real but you know it's not... ya know? Like a dream that's super fucking real as real as real life but you know it's just a dream.

[MrDot]

Just scary to think of the shit that you could possibly see.