Welcome to the Meme forum!

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Our recent interaction with Anonymous, an Internet phenomenon, inspired me to create a forum where we can discuss, share, and create new memes!

One definition of a Meme

A meme (pronounced /miːm/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English))[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#cite_note-0) consists of any idea or behavior that can pass from one person to another by learning or imitation. Examples include thoughts, ideas, theories, gestures, practices, fashions, habits, songs, and dances. Memes propagate themselves and can move through the cultural sociosphere in a manner similar to the contagious behavior of a virus.
Richard Dawkins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins) coined the word "meme" as a neologism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism) in his book The Selfish Gene (1976) to describe how one might extend evolutionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution) principles to explain the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena. He gave as examples melodies, catch-phrases, beliefs (notably religious belief, clothing/fashion, and the technology of building arches).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#cite_note-1)
Meme-theorists contend that memes evolve by natural selection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection) (similarly to Darwinian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Darwin) biological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology) evolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution)) through the processes of variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variation), mutation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation), competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition), and inheritance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance_%28disambiguation%29) influencing an individual entity's reproductive success. Thus one can expect that some memes will propagate less successfully and become extinct (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction), while others will survive, spread, and (for better or for worse) mutate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation). "Memeticists argue that the memes most beneficial to their hosts will not necessarily survive; rather, those memes that replicate the most effectively spread best, which allows for the possibility that successful memes may prove detrimental to their hosts."[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#cite_note-Kelly-2)


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

My idea is that we can come up with some new interesting memes and test them out on the HipForums then release the ones that work into the greater community.

We already spread memes here on the Hipforums, but we're not really aware of when or how we are doing it. That is the nature of memes.

What I'm proposing is that we become more conscious of the memes that we are exposed to and how they are transmitted. Then we can consciously work to spread social/political or other memes that pass the test here.

So wadda ya think?

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To give you an example of a meme, let's start with the word, hippie...

It's just a word, a noun, but it's also so much more.

It started as a word to describe someone considered "hip" or "in the know" about things that the greater society was unaware. The first people labeled "hippies" were actually beatniks.

Then the media got hold of it...

It suddenly became a new meme that spread across America and the world.

It was a word that now represented a lifestyle exemplified by the thousands of young people converging on San Francisco during the Summer of Love.

So the word "hippie" encapsulated the youth movement's most visible traits: long hair, drugs, free sex, colorful clothes, rebelliousness, freedom-loving, etc.

But the negative connotations of the word that the media and public soon associated with the word quickly dominated. Then the slurs dirty hippies, fucking hippies, etc. changed the meme enough to dissuade later generations from following the hippie path.

Recognizing how badly the meme had been trashed, I made an attempt to reclaim the word and restore it to respectability so new generations might not be afraid of the meme and be willing to check it out more.

That was the birth of hippy.com, and it was a conscious effort on my part to change the way people viewed the 60s, which at the time (mid 1990s) had been revised so much by the far-right, you'd think every problem since then was due to leftwing potsmoking hippies.

I could not let that mindset stand.

You can judge whether hippy.com has influenced the views of the 60+ million people who have visited the site in the last 12 years.

Actually the word "hippie" is a lot more than a meme, but the mental set people have when they hear the word or see a "hippie" is a result of the associated meme.

[Jaitaiyai]

haha.. cool.
I was scrolling down the forums, and i thought i saw meme.
I double checked, and its true!!
I thought i was seeing things.

:D
nice idea.

[Stephæ]

Sweet, I'd like to try this out on the world in front of our eyes. It would be a good learning experience.

[MagicPuff]

A meme is essentially a unit of cultural information. The hippie culture already has it's own set of existing memes. They have just never been referred to as a meme before.

Memes are created when the idea or usage is first implemented & people start to repeat it (naturally).

Protip: By announcing that a potential budding meme, is a meme, you have have most likely killed it. You cannot decide that something will be a new meme.

This is just something that you just have to let be & it will come about on it's own. You can't force it.

[Living Corpse]

ITT: An old hippie trying to become an Oldfag by wrapping his mind around memes, and trying to implant his seed in the std-ridden cunt of the internet.

also, cocks

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LMAO. You guys know shit about hippies. Yes, we invented memes. Some of the purposely and consciously, just as I am doing here. Most of them before you guys were invented by your parents.

Here's a little meme hippies consciously invented...

THE INTERNET.

Got it?

How did we do that?

We dropped successive doses of pure LSD and smoked endless bongs.

It opened our minds to a new universe of memes.

Lurk and Lrn moar before you comment.

[Fuckeye]

LMAO. You guys know shit about hippies. Yes, we invented memes. Some of the purposely and consciously, just as I am doing here. Most of them before you guys were invented by your parents.

Here's a little meme hippies consciously invented...

THE INTERNET.

Sorry, you're saying hippies invented the internet?

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So notice how our memes succeeded in transforming society.

And they say we failed.

FUCKIN' HA!

The laugh is on those who say that because you Anon would not be here if not for us expanding our minds.

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Sorry, you're saying hippies invented the internet?
Duh!

Lrn to Google.

[Fuckeye]

Duh!

Lrn to Google.

So, you're saying that DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), who were, and still are, responsible for a nation's security, were a bunch of hippies?

I'm not buying it.

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Read this article by Stewart Brand. If you haven't a clue who he is, google him.

http://www.technohippie.com/archives/stewartbrand.html

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You guys should lrn who Stewart Brand is because he is one Old Hippie who is still active in a variety of causes & organizations include the EFF (which he cofounded), The Well (which he cofounded - the first successful BBS) and lots more.

It's become abundantly clear now why you Gen X & Gen Y don't get it.

Your dissing us needs to end or you won't get far with us.

Respect those who made your "thing" possible.

We've tolerated your ignorance to this point.

Now there is no longer any excuse.

No more excuses for your trolls either, thank you.

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I need to point out the reason Gen X & Gen Y are so completely ignorant about hippies.

It's due to the Conservative propaganda campaign that started with Nixon continued thru Reagan until the dying days of the BuSHIT admin right now.

It started with COINTELPRO (google it to see what we've had to fight against).

It continued with a huge flood of books blaming every problem since the 60s on hippie liberals.

It pervaded every school where lies were told, history was distorted to turn you all into robot consumers, the very thing we fought against.

You gen Xers bought that line hook and sinker too. Therefore many of you hate us, even today.

Lose that meme you absorbed because it's not only false but counterproductive.

Go to http://www.hippy.com Read the articles there. Esp. the ones in the Activism section. You just might lrn something.

We are not done creating memes yet.

And it is not your place to tell us we can't, IBs.

[Fuckeye]

Read this article by Stewart Brand. If you haven't a clue who he is, google him.

http://www.technohippie.com/archives/stewartbrand.html

Here's your problem:

"As Steven Levy chronicled in his 1984 book"

"In the years since Levy's book...At the same time, they have transformed the Defense Department-sponsored ARPAnet into what has become the global digital epidemic known as the Internet."

Now look at the dates on wikipedia (due to needing to give you something as a source, I wouldn't expect you to take my word for it). The whole protocol of the internet was finalised before the book was published.

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Here's your problem:

"As Steven Levy chronicled in his 1984 book"

"In the years since Levy's book...At the same time, they have transformed the Defense Department-sponsored ARPAnet into what has become the global digital epidemic known as the Internet."

Now look at the dates on wikipedia (due to needing to give you something as a source, I wouldn't expect you to take my word for it). The whole protocol of the internet was finalised before the book was published.

Nice OUT OF CONTEXT quote there. Are you just trolling us or what?

"In the years since Levy's book, a fourth generation of revolutionaries has come to power. Still abiding by the Hacker Ethic, these tens of thousands of netheads have created myriad computer bulletin boards and a nonhierarchical linking system called Usenet. At the same time, they have transformed the Defense Department-sponsored ARPAnet into what has become the global digital epidemic known as the Internet. The average age of today's Internet users, who number in the tens of millions, is about 30 years. Just as personal computers transformed the '80s, this latest generation knows that the Net is going to transform the '90s. With the same ethic that has guided previous generations, today's users are leading the way with tools created initially as "freeware" or "shareware," available to anyone who wants them."

He's discussing here the FOURTH GENERATION. Three others gens of hippie computer hackers preceded the one in your quote.

Sorry you lose this argument. Why even bother to deny history?

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Here's what you should've quoted:

"In the 1960s and early '70s, the first generation of hackers emerged in university computer-science departments. They transformed mainframes into virtual personal computers, using a technique called time sharing that provided widespread access to computers. Then in the late '70s, the second generation invented and manufactured the personal computer. These nonacademic hackers were hard-core counterculture types - like Steve Jobs, a Beatle-haired hippie who had dropped out of Reed College, and Steve Wozniak, a Hewlett-Packard engineer. Before their success with Apple, both Steves developed and sold "blue boxes," outlaw devices for making free telephone calls. Their contemporary and early collaborator, Lee Felsenstein, who designed the first portable computer, known as the Osborne 1, was a New Left radical who wrote for the renowned underground paper the Berkeley Barb. "

I think the main problem with ANON is thinking you KNOW EVERYTHING.

You don't know what has been hidden from you by the powers that be.

You don't know what transpired before you sucked your mom's tits.

You haven't learned the lessons of the REAL history.

You have been brainwashed, just like scientologists, into being robot consumers.

How's that working out for your generation these days?

[Fuckeye]

Nice OUT OF CONTEXT quote there. Are you just trolling us or what?

"In the years since Levy's book, a fourth generation of revolutionaries has come to power. Still abiding by the Hacker Ethic, these tens of thousands of netheads have created myriad computer bulletin boards and a nonhierarchical linking system called Usenet. At the same time, they have transformed the Defense Department-sponsored ARPAnet into what has become the global digital epidemic known as the Internet. The average age of today's Internet users, who number in the tens of millions, is about 30 years. Just as personal computers transformed the '80s, this latest generation knows that the Net is going to transform the '90s. With the same ethic that has guided previous generations, today's users are leading the way with tools created initially as "freeware" or "shareware," available to anyone who wants them."

He's discussing here the FOURTH GENERATION. Three others gens of hippie computer hackers preceded the one in your quote.

Sorry you lose this argument. Why even bother to deny history?

No, I'm not trolling:

The quote was shortened, as I saw no point in copying the whole thing, you can see what it was. The end was omitted due to it being completely irrelevant.
Yes, this was the fourth generation. Due to this being the one that supposedly made the internet what it is, as the article states.
Not one part of that article CONCLUSIVELY states that all those that were known as hackers were hippies. You've gave a couple of examples, which could be right, but what about Tim Berners-Lee?

Edit: Christ, put it all in one reply, it's a lot easier to respond properly that way.

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Hippies SAW the future, and it wasn't looking pretty.

We left the cities and went back to nature cause we knew sooner or later unbridled capitalism would meet its end (it has taken longer than expected, but we're getting close now).

Now many of us are making preparations for what is to come.

You dissed HippyHillbilly, yet he is one who is helping many to prepare for the future.

The future that Gen X and Gen Y have guaranteed us with their insatiable appetites and never ending greed.

As we have been trying to point out to Anon since the day you arrived. There are far more pressing concerns to ALL OF US than Scientology.

There is NO TIME left to be distracted by such B.S. The future of our species lies in the balance.

Scientology ain't goin' nowhere, but every fuckin' day the health of our planet's ecosystem deteriorates further.

So that's why ppl like HHB don't give you more time.

We have too much important work to do in the time remaining to us to effect change to be LULZing all over the Internet.

We PRAY your generations get your priorities straight while there is still time.

"We are here to make a better world. No amount of rationalization or blaming can preempt the moment of choice each of us brings to our situation here on this planet. The lesson of the '60s is that people who cared enough to do right could change history. We didn't end racism but we ended legal segregation. We ended the idea that you could send half-a-million soldiers around the world to fight a war that people do not support. We ended the idea that women are second-class citizens. We made the environment an issue that couldn't be avoided. The big battles that we won cannot be reversed. We were young, self-righteous, reckless, hypocritical, brave, silly, headstrong and scared half to death. And we were right."
- Abbie Hoffman

AND WE ARE STILL RIGHT!

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noooooo i think he's saying the internet is a meme.
The Internet was a meme invented by hippies.

Darpa funded the research at Universities. Hippies carried out the research as students.

Hippies did more organizing in the 60s and spreading of memes than you can imagine. Anon is child's play in comparison (but has potential to be much more).

Hippy.com is there to reclaim the Hippie meme from the conservatives.

It worked!

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This is relevant? I thought you liked things staying on topic.
Is that your only response?

It's certainly on topic because you've done nothing but try to attack the credibility of hippies in this thread (and me as well).

Again, for the last time, trolling does not go down well with us.

Maybe it's time I get into Troll Patrol mode. (hint: you won't like it)

Remember this forum is not your forum.

[Dyaisura]

This thread is about forcing memes. I bet you all didnt know that.

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This thread is about forcing memes. I bet you all didnt know that.
No it's not about "forcing memes"

It's about the Force of Memes...

We're not gonna try to force a meme on anyone.

We're going to generate new memes and TEST THEM.

Just like you do with any idea.

Gotta problem with that, then just ignore this thread & forum.

You're somehow of the notion that a meme is something that just happens without volition or consciousness.

That's not how the process starts.

It starts with an idea or concept or even emotion.

Whether it spreads depends upon how successful the meme is at changing consciousness.

The hippie meme was incredibly successful, but then again we had drugs to help change our consciousness, and that opened the meme floodgates...

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Forcing memes = trying to make a meme.
They tend to just happen naturally, no-one tries to make them.

Read my last edit up above.

here it is for ya:
You're somehow of the notion that a meme is something that just happens without volition or consciousness.

That's not how the process starts.

It starts with an idea or concept or even an emotional reaction to an event.

Whether it spreads depends upon how successful the meme is at changing consciousness.

The hippie meme was incredibly successful, but then again we had drugs to help change our consciousness, and that opened the meme floodgates...

[Living Corpse]

Our lord and father, Al Gore, invented the interbutts, no exeptions.

End of discusion.

Also, a meme, a true meme, is does not become a meme by the word of one, but by the acceptance of all.

A forced meme is a meme that is born when one self-absorbed individual thinks their meme is infallible and funny, when it is really unfunny, and behaves in a unfunny manner to prevent their shitty meme from taking a one way trip to page 10.

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Our lord and father, Al Gore, invented the interbutts, no exeptions.

End of discusion.

Also, a meme, a true meme, is does not become a meme by the word of one, but by the acceptance of all.

A forced meme is a meme that is born when one self-absorbed individual thinks their meme is infallible and funny, when it is really unfunny, and behaves in a unfunny manner to prevent their shitty meme from taking a one way trip to page 10.

So says an IB... LULZ

I keep forgetting... Anons know EVERYTHING!

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I'm not familiar with the term IB - care to explain?Internet Baby.

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IB is a meme, and I'm not forcing it on anyone.

[Vox Populi]

oh lord

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So let me get this straight. In the 60s, it was your parents generation with their never ending greed. Now it's your kids (grandkids?) generation, with THEIR never ending greed. Everyone except you is destroying the world!

Don't trust anyone under 30, right?

Actually that's not true. We have a LOT of ppl right here under 30.

I have a LOT of hope for Gen Y.

They are not slackers. They are very wired in, tuned in and politically active unlike Gen X.

They have already been exposed to the NEW hippie meme, not the faux meme imposed by Conservatives.

They have direction and enthusiasm. They are socially and environmentally aware. They tend to be much more liberal than their parents.

Hell, they helped elect OBAMA!

They have their own style & their own language (with lots of subgroups). They are interesting and ready for action.

They are our only hope for the future. If we can't align with them and change the path this species is on, it will all soon be very, very fucked up.

You're only seeing the start of what we predicted would happen back in the 1960s. We were right then, we're right now.

JOIN US! Together, we can make THE DIFFERENCE!

[hippiehillbilly]

If in the 1960s you were predicting that the world will end soon, I don't see how you were right then, and right now...

oh trust me,the world as we all know it is going to end very soon..;)

[hippiehillbilly]

i wasnt born until 1964.. DUH!!

[does2]

seems to me memes come to life through stoned conversations.
someone says something, lulz ensue, a meme is born.
FTN!

[Dave_techie]

fuckdamn, that this forum exists scares me

this is an unholy bastard child of forces that only came together through roughest chance.

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seems to me memes come to life through stoned conversations.
someone says something, lulz ensue, a meme is born.
FTN!That seems bout right to me. The thing is, no one thinks about it being a meme AT THE TIME. It is only later that it bears fruit and someone says, wow, what a great meme that is!

It's a thought virus that infects our consciousness.

After it enters our consciousness, we test it for ourselves and see how it works. If it doesn't create too much cognitive dissonance with our existing mental contructs it can be absorbed. A powerful meme can destroy existing mental constructs if the new one is strong and reinforced constantly.

That is exactly how Scientology brainwashes people. They replace existing memes with theirs.

You say you can't force memes, but again, if they are reinforced constantly without contradiction, as Scientology does - you're psychologically imprisoned until you absorb them fully, and completely reprogrammed.

It's all code. The code metaphor for life RULZ.

What do you call a bunch of memes that are forced thru cult brainwashing?

Answer: A meme bath.

Cults bathe newbies in memes. Just as Anonymous has done to us here.

Oh, I can also discuss with you the physiological basis of meme reprogramming, if any care to probe the brain itself with me.

[does2]

That seems bout right to me. The thing is, no one thinks about it being a meme AT THE TIME. It is only later that it bears fruit and someone says, wow, what a great meme that is!

It's a thought virus that infects our consciousness.

After it enters our consciousness, we test it for ourselves and see how it works. If it doesn't create too much cognitive dissonance with our existing mental contructs it can be absorbed. A powerful meme can destroy existing mental constructs if the new one is strong and reinforced constantly.

That is exactly how Scientology brainwashes people. They replace existing memes with theirs.

You say you can't force memes, but again, if they are reinforced constantly without contradiction, as Scientology does - you're psychological imprisoned until you absorb them fully.


FTN!

:cheers2:

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oh trust me,the world as we all know it is going to end very soon..;)As we know it, being the main point. Planet earth will go on without us very nicely.

I believe this is something in the bones of our generation. I think we saw the future when we opened our minds, and that is what motivated us to make a difference, to change society - the established order of things.

Now as we watch the old social/economic/political order crumble around us we are prayin' for a miracle, baby.

We are watching our common nightmare come to pass. Perhaps it's inevitable, perhaps it's avoidable.

In any case it's up to all of us now to share our memes, and yes invent NEW ONES because that is what can save us.

And YES, WE CAN, if we fight to keep the Internet free from any group's control.

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Is that not exactly what you were trying to do with the IB 'meme'? Saying it was a meme at the time, not just seeing if it happens.Yes, in this particular case I am identifying a meme for ya, and giving it a name. In this case, it's not the meme that I'm saying is going to "catch on", it already exists. It's the LABEL that will catch on and then suddenly people will see the meme and grok it.

In no way did I mean to imply that I had invented this meme. It's a social phenomenon, just like hippies. But there's a concept behind it that requires more study to understand.

In this case, IBs are a social cohort who share a common experience: Interacting with computers pre-school.

To me cohort theory is a more precise label than generations that don't necessarily share as many life defining experiences.

Labels are very imprecise devises to convey a description about a phenomenon. But they serve to make communication of concepts (transmission of memes) far easier.

Thank you for your understanding. :)

[DiamondAnastasia]

IB - Internet Babe/Baby is in NO WAY a meme, not now, not ever. It is more like a term.

As are these, just TERMS

Dox - Documents
B& - Banned

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Examples of Anon memes

Time-Tested Classics
An Hero
Bel-Air
Caturday
Copypasta
DO IT FAGGOT
DO NOT WANT
HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS
I Came
IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER
INTERNET HATE MACHINE
I See What You Did There
Over 9000
LOL WUT
Longcat
Moar
Mudkips
O RLY
Pedobear
????
Pool's Closed
Profit
Rickroll


Ordinary Memes
IS IT CAN BE HUGS TIEM NOW PLEES?
It's a Trap!
OM NOM NOM NOM
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG


Jargon and Textual Memes
lurk moar
NO U
Posting in an epic thread
Relevant to my interests

Fleeting
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
Why So Serious?


Just a bunch that I picked out from encyclopedia dramatica

[Anoni Domini]

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Meme
ED FTW!

[Anoni Domini]

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IB - Internet Babe/Baby is in NO WAY a meme, not now, not ever. It is more like a term.

As are these, just TERMS

Dox - Documents
B& - Banned

=====================================

Examples of Anon memes

Time-Tested Classics
An Hero
Bel-Air
Caturday
Copypasta
DO IT FAGGOT
DO NOT WANT
HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS
I Came
IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER
INTERNET HATE MACHINE
I See What You Did There
Over 9000
LOL WUT
Longcat
Moar
Mudkips
O RLY
Pedobear
????
Pool's Closed
Profit
Rickroll


Ordinary Memes
IS IT CAN BE HUGS TIEM NOW PLEES?
It's a Trap!
OM NOM NOM NOM
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG


Jargon and Textual Memes
lurk moar
NO U
Posting in an epic thread
Relevant to my interests

Fleeting
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWAH
Why So Serious?


Just a bunch that I picked out from encyclopedia dramatica

OK, now I can see clearly you guys are the ones who have no idea what a meme is. Thanks for the heads up. :)

I admit the definition I posted includes "catch-phrases", and you could claim IB is one too, but that definition is from 1976, and our understanding of cultural memes has changed since then.

In any case my definition of a meme is one that actually ALTERS CONSCIOUSNESS and behavior on a long term basis.

I suppose there are subcategories of memes that would encompass both our definitions.

When you arrived you did start the Anon "Meme Bath", which included all the above. I would say the MEME is ANONYMOUS itself, not the jargon you use. Just as IB is the meme, not necessarily any jargon associated with it.

[moarxenu]

Oh hai thar hippiefags. Oh Lawd dat sum memefaggotry.

Thx for allowing anon to play in your forums. Srsly, I rly appreciate your hospitality and hope fellow 420fags will check out the cause.

Scifags are bent on eradicating psychiatry, psychology, and form of spirituality that is not Hubbard Tech, and all psycho-active substances.

These fuckers must go down.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_hXO1Aqj6Uhs/SRZUwUdE-AI/AAAAAAAABVw/Oxz4SxJx8B4/LRH%20-%20I%20am%20sorry.jpg

[OldTroll]

A meme is essentially a unit of cultural information. The hippie culture already has it's own set of existing memes. They have just never been referred to as a meme before.

Memes are created when the idea or usage is first implemented & people start to repeat it (naturally).

Protip: By announcing that a potential budding meme, is a meme, you have have most likely killed it. You cannot decide that something will be a new meme.

This is just something that you just have to let be & it will come about on it's own. You can't force it.

There are memes within memes like Russian nesting dolls.

[OldTroll]

In ‘71-’72 I worked in the Strategic Air Command underground dealing with SAC’s big honking IBM computer. Many of the kids that worked on the computer were hippies that had joined the A.F. to avoid going to ‘Nam and coming home in a box.

They were super-active in developing clandestine computer hookups for personal communications. A lot of their earlier tricks led to DARPA and that dumb freakin’ politician inventing the internet.

[stratface]

I CAN HAZ SUM MOAR MUDKIPS?

had to. kill me please.

so i can be an hero.

[stratface]

god damn, if this is the first sign of the hipforums turning into 4chan, i'm bailing out.

[-moonshine-memi-]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw

[Agent R]

A meme (pronounced /miːm/) is any idea or behavior that can pass from one person to another by learning or imitation. Examples include thoughts, ideas, theories, gestures, practices, fashions, habits, songs, and dances. Memes propagate themselves and can move through the cultural sociosphere in a manner similar to the contagious behavior of a virus.

In hippie words, you can't force it skip, a real meme needs to flow like the wind let nature be your guide, would you try to guide the way the Jay flies, would you try to force a tree to grow upside down?...

[Dave_techie]

A meme (pronounced /miːm/) is any idea or behavior that can pass from one person to another by learning or imitation. Examples include thoughts, ideas, theories, gestures, practices, fashions, habits, songs, and dances. Memes propagate themselves and can move through the cultural sociosphere in a manner similar to the contagious behavior of a virus.

In hippie words, you can't force it skip, a real meme needs to flow like the wind let nature be your guide, would you try to guide the way the Jay flies, would you try to force a tree to grow upside down?...
you can, but it takes entirely too much time and effort to be worth it.

[orison319]

Meme Sex, Meme Mods, and Meme Fights
The title of this sums up the three things memes do when they interact. They can have sex (create a new meme), modify each other, or duke it out (killing one or both). I figured I could use more interesting terms to make the topic a bit more approachable.
When memes have sex they can create new memes. For example, when a flying squirrel meme (aka sugar gliders) has meme sex with a ninja meme, a flying attack squirrel meme may arise. Granted this one may be a bit out there, but the contribution of the parent memes is clear (plus it's fun to think about).
Memes modify each other. A religious meme on abortion may affect a political meme on abortion. A financial status meme may affect a potential car meme. A design for a laser cannon meme may shorten the time table on the global domination meme. The possibilities are endless..
Finally, memes duke it out all the time. And by duke it out, I mean to the death. A "I'm partying tonight" meme could easily be killed by the "I have to work tomorrow morning" meme (or possibly the other way around). Or more seriously, a evolutionism meme could kill a creationism meme...
All three of these things could happen within a single persons mind, or in the process of two people interacting. Either way, it can be fun to think about (or experiment with in your head, because meme sex can be fun..

[gardener]

Why would the hipforums glorify a concept like meme?

A meme (pronounced /miːm/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English))[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme#cite_note-0) comprises any idea or behavior that can pass from one person to another by learning or imitation. Examples include thoughts, ideas, theories, gestures, practices, fashions, habits, songs, and dances. Memes propagate themselves and can move through the cultural sociosphere in a manner similar to the contagious behavior of a virus.

To me this definition is so close to propaganda and marketting hype that I find revelling in it as a bit bizzare.

[mamaKCita]

i suppose it's a linguistic programming thing.

[R's Sock]

You know gardener, that's kinda my point...

[prana]

1) Make meme forum
2) ?????
3) PROFIT!!

[Rudenoodle]

The bomb 1950's = Atomic bomb. (get under your desks!)

The bomb 1990's = An expression of excitement (That's the bomb!)

The bomb 2000's = Atomic bomb, Dirty bomb, Truck bomb. ect, ect, ect...

I don't think I know what you guys are talking about, but am I close? lol

[verseau_miracle]

1) Make meme forum
2) ?????
3) PROFIT!!

Yeah that

[SunLion]

Kewl forum idea. There's only book that I carry everywhere I go, and that's a paperback copy of Dawkins' The Selfish Gene. A truly brilliant scientist and educator, he is.

[political squaw]

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/picture.php?albumid=2528&pictureid=19298


http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/album.php?albumid=2528

[BTS]

béke

[jamjargod]

http://brooksgirmansbrain.com/images/duckroll.jpg

[DazedGypsy]

You guys should lrn who Stewart Brand is because he is one Old Hippie who is still active in a variety of causes & organizations include the EFF (which he cofounded), The Well (which he cofounded - the first successful BBS) and lots more.

It's become abundantly clear now why you Gen X & Gen Y don't get it.

Your dissing us needs to end or you won't get far with us.

Respect those who made your "thing" possible.

We've tolerated your ignorance to this point.

Now there is no longer any excuse.

No more excuses for your trolls either, thank you.

I know this an old post but...
chill out, man. There are some younger people around that DO get things and have open minds. I am one. And as a side note, I don't identify with these Gen X/Y stuff. Oh, and why do you hold on so strongly to this "us" vs. "you" attitude... yikes.

[dweb]

Largest meme party ever? If meme parties became meme, would that be metameme?

http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c30272/memeparty7.jpg

Most Internet Meme Costumes Worn At A PartyValue
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