Acid and Psytrance = best combo

[Silverbackman]

All music is awesome on acid, but psytrance is the best trippy shit. It makes the trip 10 times more kaleidoscopic ;). Along with some sour diesel fo sho. Very spiritual too.

[MeatWagon499]

my fav is hiking+acid my friends have been trying to get me to go to raves/festies for a while now but i don't think i'd like being around so many people =/

[Silverbackman]

Well you don't have to listen to it at raves, heck you can listen to psytrance, goa trance, ect. during your hike if you want to. ;) Or anywhere else by yourself, lol.

[MeatWagon499]

i have no idea what psytrance and goa trance is lol. what are some good artists? im going to bring my iPod with my on my next hike

[ad10]

Yeah psytrance is amazing on cid. I love being at raves on acid, coz every ones off their heads too even though there are so many people around you, youll find a lot of them are on the same level. That makes all the difference.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Infected Mushroom and Hallucinogen are the two biggest names in psy trance. Some of Simon Posford's other work (Shpongle, Younger Brother etc.) is pretty good too.

[ad10]

yeah i would say infected mushroom and younger brother are two of my favorites. Sphongle is great too but i need to be in the right mood (tripping balls :D).

[StonerBill]

ok well I only started listening to different psytrance stuff since some dude made a thread about it a month or two ago...
and yeh this shit is sweet. I never realised how much of a developed genre it is..
But I find it hard to remember bands or song names or anything like that.. So I tried listening to various psytrance channels on internet radio.. there are HEAPS of psytrance internet radio stations.

I tried getting into Goa but i couldnt find any i liked, it seemed too much of a 'crossover' genre.

Psytrance is the ultimate 'brain massage'. it doesnt really contain meaning or emotion
but it takes you places and tickles the innermost fancy of your audical centres. At least, if you can get into the beat.

[jolom]

from what i've heard psytrance is a really broad genre that isn't always trancey. my bro always pops psytrance into his stereo but it's never anything renowned like shpongle or infected mushroom (he says he listened to much it makes him nervy to listen to it now). i don't want to knock the genre but most of the psytrance i've heard makes me wonder "how in the hell do they write these songs?" i swear some of what i heard it's like they hit the record button and started making atmospheric noises with chimes. personally..i like it more when i'm not on.

i'm with meatwagon on the hiking thing....i love nature so much more when i'm on than going to a concert or show. last few shows i've been to i've been surrounded by drunk kids with no consideration for personal space. i can't stand that shit.

[Leingod]

psytrance and techno is music for the weak minded and those who have yet to discover actual music.

[Silverbackman]

psytrance and techno is music for the weak minded and those who have yet to discover actual music.

And what may I ask is good music?:rolleyes:


i have no idea what psytrance and goa trance is lol. what are some good artists? im going to bring my iPod with my on my next hikeYeah Skazi, Hallucinogen, and shpongle are notable mentions.

Another good one is Goa Gil....also try some Void.

This one is awesome one tripping;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bKTB89cjgo

;)

[PsyGrunge]

i have no idea what psytrance and goa trance is lol. what are some good artists? im going to bring my iPod with my on my next hike

Oh god, you've just opened a very large can of worms...

Infected Mushroom and Hallucinogen are the two biggest names in psy trance.

Ooohhh... you didn't.
Infected Mushroom are a mediocre repetitive act that stopped being psytrance years ago, and nobody should recommend them to people wanting to get into (nevermind explore) psytrance. They make nothing more than electronically produced pop music now (for want of a better definition) and are in it for all the wrong reasons. Maybe once upon a time, but not anymore. You only have to listen to the opening tracks of Vicious Delicious to think 'What the fuck?! This ain't Psy!'.. Steer well clear of the money minded bastards.

To the OP and others interested in variants of PsyTrance, check out the Ambient and Trance section - I've posted many recommendations and there are threads in there with lists of great artists.

MeatWagon499... may I recommend some specific essentials for that iPod. You will not regret the downloads...

Electrypnose - 'Sunny Heart'
Electrypnose - 'Negative G's'
Electrypnose - 'Go Back To Mummy'
Electrypnose - 'Swiss Clockwork'
Electrypnose - 'Secret Weapon'
Electrypnose - 'A Little Bell In The Night'
Electrypnose - 'The Handler'
Orca - 'The Storyteller'
Orca - 'Wakey Wakey'
Space Buddha - 'No Shields'
Space Buddha - 'Mental Hotline' (this on acid is full fractal force visuals)
Space Buddha - 'Walking On Water'
Space Buddha - 'Focus Land'
Space Buddha - 'Overfly Zone'
Space Buddha - 'In The Zone'
Kindzadza - 'Inner Vibration'
Kindzadza - 'Cristal Inside'
Kindzadza - 'Wide Range Broadcast'
Kindzadza - 'Rapid Life System'
Samadhi and Fungus Funk - 'Our Planet'
Fungus Funk - 'Warped Space'
Fungus Funk - 'Heat Damage'
Kashyyyk - 'Lusid'
Hallucinogen - 'L.S.D. (World Sheet of Closed String) Dub mix'
Hallucinogen - 'Angelic Particles dub mix'
Hallucinogen - 'L.S.D. (live)'
Shpongle - 'Behind Closed Eyes'
Shpongle - 'Outer Shpongolia'
Shpongle - 'Shiva Space Station'
Bluetech - 'Alchemie Dub'
Bluetech - 'Cosmologic'
Bluetech - 'Prayers For Rain (J. Viewz Mix)'

[Leingod]

And what may I ask is good music?:rolleyes:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bKTB89cjgo

;)

I never said good music, are you that dumbfounded you could not ever process what I wrote in a post that you yourself quoted before even posting? How deplorable...

but if you insist to who what good music is:
Acid Mothers Temple
Adema
Aerosmith
Aesop Rock
Agnostic Front
The Allman Brothers
Baroness
Battle of Mice
Between The Buried and Me
The Beatles
Behold...the Arctopus
Black Sabboth
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bruce Haak
Bury Your Dead
Cave In
Collapsar
Converge
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Cult of Luna
Deep Purple
Deftones
Disturbed
Dissection
The Doors
Dragonforce
Eric Clapton
Esoteric
Explosions In The Sky
Fishbone
Flaw
Frank Zappa
Giant Squid
Godspeed You Black EMperor!
Green Jelly
Gov't Mule
God Is An AStronaut
Godsmack
Gojirra
Gordian Knot
Hawkwind
Helios Creed
The HIdden Hand
Ill Nino
Intronaut
In Flames
ISIS
IREpress
Jethro Tull
Jimi Page
Jimi Hendrix
Joe Satriani
Johnny Cash
Kayo Dot
Killswitch Engage
King Crimson
Kinski
Kittie
Korn
Kyuss
Lemon Jelly
Led Zeppelin
Les Claypool
Coronel Les Claypool & The Fearless Flying Frog Brigade
M.C. Peepants/ M.C. Chris
The Mars Volta Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
Mastodon
Metallica
Modest Mouse
The Moody Blues
Modest Mouse
Mogwai
Mr. Bungle
Mouth of the ARchitect
MUDVAYNE
Mushroom Head
Neurosis
Nightwish
The Ocean
Oysterhead
Paradise Lost
Particle
Pelican
A Perfect Circle
Pink Floyd
PRIMUS
Puscifer
Qualone
Quicksand
Quidam
Queens of the Stone Age
Rage Against The Machine
Rammstein
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rob Zombie
Rosetta
The Rolling Stones
Seether
Sepultura
Skinny Puppy
Shadows Fall
Slipknot
Soulfly
Spacemen 3
Static X
Steve Miller Band
Sublime
Swallow The Sun
System of a Down
Tab Benoit
Talking Heads
Tenacious D
TOOL
Torche
The Union Underground
Ween
White Zombie
Yes
Zozobra
ZZ Top

[PsyGrunge]

Leingod - if DarkPsy is for the weak of mind then you are fucking fool.

[Leingod]

Leingod - if DarkPsy is for the weak of mind then you are fucking fool.

your ignorance clouds your mind well. Of course opinion plays a role in choosing which music suits different personalities. Its funny because the personality related to this kind of music is very pathetic and almost pitiful.

[jolom]

lol "actual music"? top 40 stuff? lmao seriously? look at what you listen to before you ridicule others. that top 40 stuff is just awful...besides the fact that it exists to profit off of true art...and reduces all amount of specialty to a minimum. so you're going to defend music that hides behind its repetition and attack music that embraces its repetition? until you stop listening for music to sound the only way you're used to liking it..you'll never understand electronic music. when/IF you do...you'll see how awful all that top 40 shit is. not to mention the electronic elements so many of those bands have absorbed.

BUT...frank zappa ftw! : )

you can always tell someone uninformed about electronic music because they call it "techno". here's a fun fact: techno is a genre of its own.

and i've got to take issue with this "weak-minded" thing...since when did you have to be a genius to compose music?

[PsyGrunge]

By the way Leingod, correct me if I'm wrong but 'psytrance and techno is music' (in your own words) implies that they are both types of music, and so could you be a bit more specific when typing 'actual music'? Do you mean music that is played on acoustic instruments with lyrics sung over the top, or do you mean specific genres of music, or your own preferred tastes in bands and genres, or what?! You are as deplorable as the next man for contributing to the thread with such biased and undefined rubbish.
As an 'actual musician' who's written many songs on different instruments - both ensemble and solo - I found that producing Psytrance music (not just listening to) was/is one of the most technically enthralling and rewarding experiences I've had during my time writing music. It also requires a lot of thought, focus, creativity, patience and precision. The intelligent construction of simultaneous rhythms is not a simple process; and you can be just as musical as you would be creating 'actual' music (whatever the fuck you mean by this) when it comes to writing melodies.. and incorporating them into previously arranged basslines. I've even added live guitar sections to some psy tunes. It's a much more complicated and clever process than you give it credit for. Please, take your ill-educated, bare minimal of comments elsewhere because they are way off the mark.

[PsyGrunge]

Leingod - out of your newly added list of artists, I like (or can tolerate);

Acid Mothers Temple, Adema (some stuff, although setting these as a benchmark for 'actual music' is a poor effort on your part), Aerosmith, The Allman Brothers, The Beatles, Black Sabboth (it's SABBATH, you moron!!!), Bob Marley, Converge, Cult of Luna, Deep Purple, Deftones, Disturbed (again, with Adema - what the fuck are you doing?!), Dragonforce, Eric Clapton, Godsmack, Hawkwind, Ill Nino, In Flames, Jethro Tull, Jimi Page, Jimi Hendrix, Joe Satriani, Johnny Cash, Killswitch Engage, Korn (as with adema and disturbed..), Led Zeppelin, Les Claypool, Coronel Les Claypool & The Fearless Flying Frog Brigade, Metallica(I wouldn't call the new stuff 'actual music'), The Moody Blues, MUDVAYNE, Mushroom Head, Nightwish, Paradise Lost, A Perfect Circle, Pink Floyd, Queens of the Stone Age, Rage Against The Machine, Rammstein, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rob Zombie, The Rolling Stones, Sepultura, Shadows Fall, Slipknot (as with adema/disturbed/korn - come off it, fella), Soulfly, Static X, System of a Down, Talking Heads, Tenacious D, TOOL (couldn't agree more), The Union Underground, Yes, ZZ Top...

..oh, would you look at that. I like most of the stuff you've listed, and I'm still here pumping out the many different types of psytrance and electronically produced psychedelic music..

To re-evaluate: Psytrance adds an extra dimension to music, especially if you've been into the same artists for years or are getting bored of other styles of electronic music. If you feel you want more, psytrance is the key.. ranging from full-on psy, minimal progressive and daytime tunes, to more psychologically demanding forms like DarkPsy. It's exciting, energetic, rapidly progressing music that gets the brain ticking and don't let repetitive bass structures fool you - they're there for a reason.. it's the overtones that bring the 'story' together. Then again, I suppose you have to understand to appreciate..

[jolom]

anyone can be a critic and say "that sucks"...but being able to define what sucks doesn't mean you can just as easily create what kicks ass. i've heard a lot "i could make a song like that"...as a defense of how awful and lame the music might be...but no one ever actually DOES make the song. because it's not easy.

[Mr.Writer]

Wow, there's someone on this forum who's a bigger asshole than me?!

[Silverbackman]

I never said good music, are you that dumbfounded you could not ever process what I wrote in a post that you yourself quoted before even posting? How deplorable...

but if you insist to who what good music is:
Acid Mothers Temple
Adema
Aerosmith
Aesop Rock
Agnostic Front
The Allman Brothers
Baroness
Battle of Mice
Between The Buried and Me
The Beatles
Behold...the Arctopus
Black Sabboth
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bruce Haak
Bury Your Dead
Cave In
Collapsar
Converge
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Cult of Luna
Deep Purple
Deftones
Disturbed
Dissection
The Doors
Dragonforce
Eric Clapton
Esoteric
Explosions In The Sky
Fishbone
Flaw
Frank Zappa
Giant Squid
Godspeed You Black EMperor!
Green Jelly
Gov't Mule
God Is An AStronaut
Godsmack
Gojirra
Gordian Knot
Hawkwind
Helios Creed
The HIdden Hand
Ill Nino
Intronaut
In Flames
ISIS
IREpress
Jethro Tull
Jimi Page
Jimi Hendrix
Joe Satriani
Johnny Cash
Kayo Dot
Killswitch Engage
King Crimson
Kinski
Kittie
Korn
Kyuss
Lemon Jelly
Led Zeppelin
Les Claypool
Coronel Les Claypool & The Fearless Flying Frog Brigade
M.C. Peepants/ M.C. Chris
The Mars Volta Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
Mastodon
Metallica
Modest Mouse
The Moody Blues
Modest Mouse
Mogwai
Mr. Bungle
Mouth of the ARchitect
MUDVAYNE
Mushroom Head
Neurosis
Nightwish
The Ocean
Oysterhead
Paradise Lost
Particle
Pelican
A Perfect Circle
Pink Floyd
PRIMUS
Puscifer
Qualone
Quicksand
Quidam
Queens of the Stone Age
Rage Against The Machine
Rammstein
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rob Zombie
Rosetta
The Rolling Stones
Seether
Sepultura
Skinny Puppy
Shadows Fall
Slipknot
Soulfly
Spacemen 3
Static X
Steve Miller Band
Sublime
Swallow The Sun
System of a Down
Tab Benoit
Talking Heads
Tenacious D
TOOL
Torche
The Union Underground
Ween
White Zombie
Yes
Zozobra
ZZ Top

Hey idiot, a lot of that is good music......but you still haven't explained to me how goa/psytrance sucks. Your inability to define crappy music, Leingodiot, means you can keep your mouth shut ;).:cool:

[ad10]

psytrance and techno is music for the weak minded and those who have yet to discover actual music.

Ha ha theres always one who thinks they are better than everyone else.

[PsyGrunge]

It's a shame for him.

[StonerBill]

yeh his list was full of pretty good musicians. But he has missed the point of psytrance. probablyhas never really listene to it much. Some people start listening to musi as teenagers and by the time they are adults, they think they have an idea of what 'real music' is or something or 'how music shoudl be'.

As a musician and an explorer of human's condition, I think that there is an infinite variety of potentially good music, and the only way to trully understand what music is and how it affects us and our brains is to listen to all genres openly and simply find the things htat you enjoy.

But a lot of people are unable to get past their stereotypical mindsets of lame ravers and stuff.

Though I do have a beef with this sort of stuff in teh fact that there is sOOO much of it that it is basically impossible for me to grasp all the songs as identities and artists as entitites.. its just good or bad psytrance to me so far. And thats all it needs to be...

leingod get over it, you do not have a special radar for what good music is. You jsut have your oppinions. Music is something people need to reserve their opinions on more.

I started off listening to classic rock, moved onto the whole range of things from 60's through 80's. Then I got into ethnic stuff fro maround the world, and into contemporary music. Then I started taking ecstacy and it led me into places with my heart open, and I found out what it is that people listen to in dance music /electronic music. I eventually found myself with Drum and Bass which is basically the king of electronic beat music, imo.
Recently been gettin into this psytrance stuff.
But I still listen to all the music i used to love.

Good electronic music requires so much more skill than good band music.. But it is also very easy for people to create crap trance music.. and theres a lot out there. Its a bit hard to differentiate good and bad trance unless youve listened to the song for a couple of minutes, because it is over that sort of time frame that trance music evolves, unlike normal bands with their verse-chorus sort of structure

[blitz7341]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqsWnEvh9Gk

I went out of body with this song

[ad10]

I started off listening to classic rock, moved onto the whole range of things from 60's through 80's. Then I got into ethnic stuff fro maround the world, and into contemporary music. Then I started taking ecstacy and it led me into places with my heart open, and I found out what it is that people listen to in dance music /electronic music. I eventually found myself with Drum and Bass which is basically the king of electronic beat music, imo.


I went pretty much the same way with what i listened to but found that i didnt really enjoy Drum & Bass unless i had taken pills. But from the dnb scene i found Dubstep which is exactly the sort of music i have been looking for all my life.

[jolom]

I eventually found myself with Drum and Bass which is basically the king of electronic beat music, imo.


that's awesome..i'm a drum n bass and jungle dj..even though i prefer jungle more (not trying to start genre wars here : ) i find jungle beats to be more complicated and have more depth than dnb beats. dnb is a lot harder and the drum samples sound thicker and more rough. i don't really find dnb to be lsd music though...even though there have been songs... : )

i remember one in particular that seemed destiny at the time..i was driving home after a nice night of tripping and had my mp3 player on..and a song came on called "Endlessly" and it had a female vocal sample saying "endlessly" only it alternated with "lsd". that was great : )

[ad10]

I find dnb to be great on acid. I feel like im in digital world. problem is that because of a lack of perception of time i sometimes take my pills too close together. and that can be a bit rough. Or take more than i had anticipated.
Apart from that though i think dnb & jungle both compliment the acid really well. And breaks for that matter.

[MeatWagon499]

taste in music is merely an opinion calm down. if u don't like psytrance why even post it just makes an argument for nothing.

anyway thanks for listing some good tunes guise :)

[PsychedeliaSmith]

PsyGrunge, if you don't like Infected Mushroom that's fair enough, but that doesn't change the fact that A LOT of other people do and they're still one of the biggest names in psy trance.
Vicous Delicous was a bit too commercial for me too, but their older albums are pretty incredible.

Younger Brother - Psychic Gibbon
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d34hJwMhVto
That track on psychedelics is amazing. :)

[StonerBill]

hehe never try to promote music by saying that a lot of people chose to listen to it ;)

but I think the best music is music that makes the most people move their body. So the best music is essentially pop music, but that doesnt mean it is my favourite, nor does it mean I would recommend it to people

[jolom]

i'd say the problem with pop is the industry behind it. instead of some unique talent there's a whole industry dedicated to pooping out moneymakers. they take nobodies and give them an image and hire people to write songs for them. like american idol (not that anyone has ever seemed to make superstar status) where all you have to do is be approved by three scheisters and you're eligible to be a "celebrity". it's like music doesn't belong to creativity anymore..it belongs to suits. the evidence is in all the crossing over from one specialty to the other. like joaquin phoenix giving up his acting career to be a singer because he enjoyed playing johnny cash. it doesn't just go for music either..any area of entertainment is a target. look at that cd paris hilton tried to release..it's a perfect example of the industry belonging to those who want and can instead of those who are truly inspired to create original material.

[PsyGrunge]

PsyGrunge, if you don't like Infected Mushroom that's fair enough, but that doesn't change the fact that A LOT of other people do and they're still one of the biggest names in psy trance.
Vicous Delicous was a bit too commercial for me too, but their older albums are pretty incredible.

Thinking on..
Unfortunately, I agree that they are one of the biggest names in PsyTrance (even though they're getting a lot of false credit, imo) and I like their earlier stuff.. but if the same people praising I.M. were to look beyond widely publicised psy artists that get a lot of media coverage, I doubt they'd be as wow-ed by the 'shroom.. maybe current fans would see them for the very mediocre act they are. I'd love people (especially IM fans) to compare Infected Mushroom with Space Buddha.

I.M. were once a really good duo (hell, I can't criticise the older stuff - it got me into psytrance :p), but now (of course, imo - I'm not speaking for all!!) whatever musical 'talent' is left has gone down the pan.

P.S. I love Younger Brother.. have you heard Yab-Yum's stuff?
And an artist called 'Onkel Dunkel'..

[ad10]

Although Infected Mushroom might not be quite as psy-trance as the used to be they still had some amazing tracks on vicious delicious; becoming insane, vicious delicious, and heavyweight off the top of my head.
Anyway one of the great things about I.M. is that they draw a lot of new people into psy-trance. They are one of the few popular artists who people who have not listened to much psy would recognize as being of that genre.

Then again it could have the opposite affect if people hear them and assume that as they are so famous they must be one of the best.

[rygoody]

I never said good music, are you that dumbfounded you could not ever process what I wrote in a post that you yourself quoted before even posting? How deplorable...

but if you insist to who what good music is:
Acid Mothers Temple
Adema
Aerosmith
Aesop Rock
Agnostic Front
The Allman Brothers
Baroness
Battle of Mice
Between The Buried and Me
The Beatles
Behold...the Arctopus
Black Sabboth
Bob Dylan
Bob Marley
Bruce Haak
Bury Your Dead
Cave In
Collapsar
Converge
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Cult of Luna
Deep Purple
Deftones
Disturbed
Dissection
The Doors
Dragonforce
Eric Clapton
Esoteric
Explosions In The Sky
Fishbone
Flaw
Frank Zappa
Giant Squid
Godspeed You Black EMperor!
Green Jelly
Gov't Mule
God Is An AStronaut
Godsmack
Gojirra
Gordian Knot
Hawkwind
Helios Creed
The HIdden Hand
Ill Nino
Intronaut
In Flames
ISIS
IREpress
Jethro Tull
Jimi Page
Jimi Hendrix
Joe Satriani
Johnny Cash
Kayo Dot
Killswitch Engage
King Crimson
Kinski
Kittie
Korn
Kyuss
Lemon Jelly
Led Zeppelin
Les Claypool
Coronel Les Claypool & The Fearless Flying Frog Brigade
M.C. Peepants/ M.C. Chris
The Mars Volta Maylene and the Sons of Disaster
Mastodon
Metallica
Modest Mouse
The Moody Blues
Modest Mouse
Mogwai
Mr. Bungle
Mouth of the ARchitect
MUDVAYNE
Mushroom Head
Neurosis
Nightwish
The Ocean
Oysterhead
Paradise Lost
Particle
Pelican
A Perfect Circle
Pink Floyd
PRIMUS
Puscifer
Qualone
Quicksand
Quidam
Queens of the Stone Age
Rage Against The Machine
Rammstein
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rob Zombie
Rosetta
The Rolling Stones
Seether
Sepultura
Skinny Puppy
Shadows Fall
Slipknot
Soulfly
Spacemen 3
Static X
Steve Miller Band
Sublime
Swallow The Sun
System of a Down
Tab Benoit
Talking Heads
Tenacious D
TOOL
Torche
The Union Underground
Ween
White Zombie
Yes
Zozobra
ZZ Top

You critisize psytrance but then post a list like that. woah. That list would be cool if we were in like high school.

I mean seriously you put MC pee pants on there maybe if this was 5 years ago and I had just seen that episode of ATHF. Slipknot.... are you kidding me, maybe if I was still a freshmen all pissed off about having to go to high school.

White Zombie.

Dragonforce? no. Just no on that one.

Disturbed...

Atleast you got Godspeed You! Black Emperor on there, you can get a point for that one.

But theres stuff in psytrance way cooler than half the shit on there.

Do you actually expect someone to go down that list and try things out?

[supahdude]

I'm not saying you have to like dragonforce but honestly, herman li is a god on a guitar.

Gotta atleast give em credit

[rygoody]

Ya it is technically skilled. I once had my bouts with dragon slaying before. But, I just sorta lost interest in the medieval era altogether.


Anyways, about psytrance.

This is probably my favorite track from way back in the day.
Yahel - Waves of Sound (Infected Mushroom remix)
http://www.4shared.com/file/69720364/36b9703f/Infected_Mushroom_and_Yahel_-_waves_of_sounds.html?dirPwdVerified=e42e3883

[Thecookiemonster]

psytrance and techno is music for the weak minded and those who have yet to discover actual music.

Ah yet again enlightening words from the almighty LEINGOD...Hail thee anime king

I shall now listen to slipknot, red hot chilli peppers, and ZZ top because i wanna hear this good music you speak of

[supahdude]

I just can't get into psytrance.

Maybe i'm listening to the wrong songs/artist.

[StonerBill]

do you like any other electronic beat music? perhaps you need to step into the genre from something more appealing

[Mr.Writer]

Wow I just listened to that new Younger Brother album . . . very, very nice! A lot more spacey and sensuous than I'm used to from psytrance, which is awesome! Almost bordered on ambient in some songs. Luscious.

[eddieenigma]

ive never really got into Psytrance and techno, i enjoy the chemical brothers tho. Im of course open to new music so im gonna check the bands u mentioned. My favorite music tripping balls is underground hip hop. I would suggest Hieroglyphics "Third Eye Vision" and Jedi Mind Tricks "The Psycho Social Biological Electromagnatic Manipulation of Human Consciencesness." Its defintely really trippy shit and u might be into it. Ill give u some more suggestions if ur into it, some people arent tho were all differnt. thanks for the advice brethern.

[RELAYER]

do you like any other electronic beat music? perhaps you need to step into the genre from something more appealing

Yea, the likes of Dan Deacon, who is a fucking Bach compared to other electronic I've heard.
I dont know I mean, Im indifferent to Psytrance, most of what I've heard I've been able to replicate with my synthesizer the moment it came out of the box, without having any knowledge how to use it and teaching myself as I go. It's ok, but it's also extremely simple, both in creation and in form.
But like every genre, there is the few gems and the bulk of crap, and it's all about finding those weirdos out there who breathe new life into strange concepts, like Deacon I mentioned above.
The only reason it doesnt annoy me to no end like most music of this type, is that routing an oscilator through filters with multiple appegiators going produces effects very similar to the psychedelic audio distortion. Other than that, a big yawn in my opinon.

[RELAYER]

...and Jedi Mind Tricks "The Psycho Social Biological Electromagnatic Manipulation of Human Consciencesness."

"I redefine the crystaline, biological structures, implaned in your mind"
Classic album :cheers2:

[RELAYER]

By the way if anyone cares, this is my favorite song by him, even though its only half the song (sorry couldnt find a full version) its the only electronic song that brough tears to my eyes :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XGbfJtpzw

And if you want to hear his philosophy on life and why his music is so purely insane :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnFZ4XTihAM

[PsyGrunge]

Relayer.. have you heard any 'Electrypnose'?!
You should check out some tunes from the album in my sig 'Where Do We Go?'
You can find a lot of the tracks as streaming content on imeem.com

[eddieenigma]

relayer i see ur a phillies fan how about them phils baby, world champions! i was there at the stadium tripping balls, one of the most amazing moments of my life.

[RELAYER]

Will do PsyGrunge, thank you for the suggestion :) I would never turn down any kidn of music, Im definitley open to anything new!

And eddie hell yea man, :cheers2:
Didnt get to go but had every hair on my body stand up during that last strike out :)

[jolom]

But like every genre, there is the few gems and the bulk of crap, and it's all about finding those weirdos out there who breathe new life into strange concepts


you should check out Luke Vibert...not sure how "new" anything would be...but it's definitely strange..or i guess more goofy. it's a lot of fun to listen to : )

[rygoody]

Another producer I love is Solar Fields. He put out an album in 2007 called earthshine thats psytrance style, heres a track off it.
http://www.4shared.com/file/69727838/d3fa1f09/03-solar_fields_-_black_arrow-gem.html

all of his other albums are ambient, if you like ambient, his album 'leaving home' is one of my favorites
and.... while I'm on the subject, heres a track from leaving home
http://www.4shared.com/file/69994007/3914ff6c/Solar_Fields_-_Leaving_Home_-_Stereo_Hypnosis__Magnetosphere_Part_2_.html

[Omacatl]

psytrance and techno is music for the weak minded and those who have yet to discover actual music.

psytrance contains some of the most complex musical algorithms and structure of any music coming out today. in structure, its more similar to classical music than most other genres of electronic music. not to say that there isn't good and bad psytrance being made, but most of it is very very complex in structure. the focus in dark-psy has been shifted more towards non-pitched sounds instead of melody, and on complex rhythmic and percussive patterns to shift the listener's consciousness. its an impressive marriage of sound synthesis, technology, and musical theory. whether its your cup of tea or not, you would still have to recognize such feats as cutting edge, musically.you obviously know nothing about production and sound engineering

its one thing to have an opinion about music, but to make judgmental statements about the listener highlights your own weak-mindedness. it's no surprise you attribute this to others when it is clearly the quality you most despise in yourself.


and what do you listen to? some shitty indy rock bands on your i-pod that you carry in your trendy messenger bag? :rolleyes: go play some fucking guitar hero.

edit : oh i see your list now. same old shit that everyone listens to. none of what you listen to is really that cutting edge or unique, your just another elitist tool fan :D

[Shapeshifter]

To me there is nothing better then Kindzadza or Cosmo during the peak of a solid acid trip. There is even the message in one of Kindzadza's tracks - "Listen to the message of the soul through the solid beat!". It is just so fast and complicated, rythms and beats all together that plenty of people can not accept it from the first try, you must understand how to listen to the message from soul through solid beat ;)
Just check the this site, there will be previews of the music: http://www.myspace.com/kindzadzamusic

Awsome!!

[RELAYER]

I dont know Shapey, every time I hit the peak, it feels like time stops and this program starts up where everything's tubes are about to burst with life energy and I feel myself being pulled like by a magnet towards something, or everything? And right when it settles in and gets beyond uncomfortable, it lets me go and I go back to time and space again. In that moment, I dont think I've ever been able to even hear music, or anything outside of my heads buzzing for that matter.
How are you and your family, by the way?
God bless

[Shapeshifter]

I dont know Shapey, every time I hit the peak, it feels like time stops and this program starts up where everything's tubes are about to burst with life energy and I feel myself being pulled like by a magnet towards something, or everything? And right when it settles in and gets beyond uncomfortable, it lets me go and I go back to time and space again. In that moment, I dont think I've ever been able to even hear music, or anything outside of my heads buzzing for that matter.
How are you and your family, by the way?
God bless

We are fine, moving to Australia end of December. Its been hectic, selling everything, closing bank accounts, and all of that, so we are pretty busy. Its not easy to just change the continent. Anyway, thats way off the topic.
I know what you are saying for the peak, I was also like that, but then I was introduced to psytrance, and if you dance through your peak, it gives you sooo much more energy, it flows so naturaly, specially if you stomp hard with your feet in the rythm of the base. You feel like you are shaking the whole world. Just give it a try, specially if you can find somewhere any whole album from Kindzadza or Cosmo. If you want I can send it to you through Pando. And when you enter the trip like that, whole trip got completely different dimension.

[RELAYER]

We are fine, moving to Australia end of December. Its been hectic, selling everything, closing bank accounts, and all of that, so we are pretty busy. Its not easy to just change the continent. Anyway, thats way off the topic.
I know what you are saying for the peak, I was also like that, but then I was introduced to psytrance, and if you dance through your peak, it gives you sooo much more energy, it flows so naturaly, specially if you stomp hard with your feet in the rythm of the base. You feel like you are shaking the whole world. Just give it a try, specially if you can find somewhere any whole album from Kindzadza or Cosmo. If you want I can send it to you through Pando. And when you enter the trip like that, whole trip got completely different dimension.

I sure would like to give it a try. I dont know, it feels like if I dont reach the peak where shit gets all fogged up completley, that I never notice and 'peak' effects, you know? Like when I ate 6, no noticeable peak, just 3-4 hours or so of being ripped apart. But then ate 3 of the same batch like a week or two later, and there it was, right about 4 hours after taking it, the three of us where outside smoking a cig and all of a sudden none of us could move, or talk, or anything, just sat there while our minds melted into one thing and the city of Philadelphia seemed like it was on neon fire :cheers2:

[Shapeshifter]

I sure would like to give it a try. I dont know, it feels like if I dont reach the peak where shit gets all fogged up completley, that I never notice and 'peak' effects, you know? Like when I ate 6, no noticeable peak, just 3-4 hours or so of being ripped apart. But then ate 3 of the same batch like a week or two later, and there it was, right about 4 hours after taking it, the three of us where outside smoking a cig and all of a sudden none of us could move, or talk, or anything, just sat there while our minds melted into one thing and the city of Philadelphia seemed like it was on neon fire :cheers2:

Thats exactly what I am telling you, if you start dancing you open your mind, but that rythm is careing you and doesn't let the body to shut down, it automaticaly let the energy flow so naturaly and guides you through your trip, like you exist in many different dimensions and you are aware of all of them.

[RELAYER]

Thats exactly what I am telling you, if you start dancing you open your mind, but that rythm is careing you and doesn't let the body to shut down, it automaticaly let the energy flow so naturaly and guides you through your trip, like you exist in many different dimensions and you are aware of all of them.

MAybe I'll try becoming a medium rather than a witness next time. Thanks for the advice Shapey, much respect over here :cheers2:

[Shapeshifter]

MAybe I'll try becoming a medium rather than a witness next time. Thanks for the advice Shapey, much respect over here :cheers2:

Its always the pleasure, much respect from here too:cheers2:

[Omacatl]

there are few psytrance artists who seem to "get it" and know how to move me rythmically into an intense dancefloor experience.

Kindzaza is definately one of them.

i also like. Artifakt, Kashyyk, Ocelot, Mortifer Foedus, Silent horror, Zero Blade,Azax syndrome, Mubali (compilation tracks are his best), Unwashed tomato, the Andychrist, Muscarin, savage scream.

there are several of my favorite artists on the new compilation "in da blood"/
here you guys go :D:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_91Hcsjij2jg/SOJaRHWRbfI/AAAAAAAAAYY/jlVpSzfdgfs/s400/indablood_on_gray.gif
IN DA BLOOD V.A

download: http://rapidshare.com/files/149653988/VA_-_In_Da_Blood-2008-MYCEL.rar

Tracklist:
01.Savage Scream_The Pupil
02.Kindzadza vs Mubali_Normal Preashure
03.Galaxy Madness_Mad Synthesizer (cpu100%rmx)
04.Silent Horror_Distorted
05.Haunted Castle_Hologram
06.Furious vs Kraft_226.06.06
07.Already Maged_Pagan Autumn
08.CPC_Piter 25
09.Osom vs Matutero_Shadi Se Pehle

[PsyGrunge]

The conclusive link between psytrance and an acid trip for me is the synthesesia element of LSD's effects. If one were to 'see' psytrance, they'd know it's nothing short of spectacular. The way the mind processes and reproduces psytrance (especially dark psytrance) and the pictoral art on mental display is absolutely fantastic - and crystal clear. Dancing between sound waves and resonating your body with the music only makes these visual effects more define, bringing together highly complex forms of imagery; whether it's in the open eye ripples surrounding solid objects or quite simply out of this world visuals that exist behind closed eyelids.

[Thecookiemonster]

Can anyone help me with some good dark psy? I cant find any on limewire

[jolom]

anything is better than limewire..try soulseek or something

[PsyGrunge]

Limewire? Oh dear..
You'd be better off looking for torrents and downloading through UTorrent;
There's plenty of streaming content on imeem.com, youtube and myspace artists..
As for Lime/Frostwire - I've had luck downloading the bare minimal of Kindzadza, Highko, Space Buddha, Ocelot and Electrypnose tunes through Frostwire, so you never know what you might find. All depends on when people who have darkpsy in their libraries are online.

[eskimoblueday]

I love psy, but I'm finding more and more lately that I prefer some really wobble-bass dubstep when Lucy is visiting. I enjoy the feeling of being melted and oozing around.

[ad10]

awesome. good to hear more people liking dubstep.

I'm going to Earthcore, outdoor dance music festival, in a few weeks. lots of psytrance. looking forward to it.

[jolom]

dubstep is really big out here

[PsyGrunge]

Anyone heard 'OTT'>?! Dub step master of the Hallucinogen remix album 'In Dub' - the tunes are better than the originals themselves!

[rygoody]

I love OTT. Would definently rate in dubs over the originals.

[rygoody]

Just give it a try, specially if you can find somewhere any whole album from Kindzadza or Cosmo. If you want I can send it to you through Pando. And when you enter the trip like that, whole trip got completely different dimension.

I don't want to interject in a two way talk that didn't involve me.

but...

I'll take the album :D

[Thecookiemonster]

Limewire? Oh dear..
You'd be better off looking for torrents and downloading through UTorrent;
There's plenty of streaming content on imeem.com, youtube and myspace artists..
As for Lime/Frostwire - I've had luck downloading the bare minimal of Kindzadza, Highko, Space Buddha, Ocelot and Electrypnose tunes through Frostwire, so you never know what you might find. All depends on when people who have darkpsy in their libraries are online.

Yea limewire sucks, ive had it for years. Whats everybody using these days?

[PsyGrunge]

UTorrent and Frostwire are the best free downloadable programs for me .:D

[Omacatl]

there are so many albums out on beatport, itunes, and blogs that i dont even need to use soulseek, torrent or other p2p.


here's one of my favorite albums :D the parus, kindzaza, and ocelot tracks are killer. enjoy.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_b6CIhB98B3I/RxLVbasAEOI/AAAAAAAAASg/Yyge2y0P3Y4/s400/alienfm.jpg

http://rapidshare.com/files/61908217/VA_-_Alien_FM_Squared_Illegal_Aliens-2007.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/62517602/VA_-_Alien_FM_Squared_Illegal_Aliens-2007-gEm.part2.rar
TRACKLIST

01 Ocelot - I'm on fire 07:27
02 Freaks of Nature - Lochness 07:23
03 Parus - Vce Doma 07:46
04 Polyphonia - More Satisfaction 07:15
05 Digitalist - Time Warp 07:06
06 Double Core - The 1st Realm 07:25
07 Kindzadza - Pulsar 07:11
08 Ocelot - Whirligig 07:01
09 Samadhi - Life's only a dream 07:00
10 Septagram - On Curry 09:13

[aliced]

i am not sure if Bassnectar is psytrance... but is amazing non-the-less

[eskimoblueday]

I'm going to Earthcore, outdoor dance music festival, in a few weeks. lots of psytrance. looking forward to it.

I'm so keen to go to Earthcore. And Rainbow Serpent Festival! But airfares across the ditch prevent me. Also I think I'd wilt in the Aussie heat. Still, the outdoor festivals here are pretty excellent.

[PsyGrunge]

Checking that Alien FM2 'Illegal Aliens' album out now man..

[Omacatl]

i am not sure if Bassnectar is psytrance... but is amazing non-the-less

no...bassnectar is not psytrance. i dig his stuff though.

[rygoody]

there are so many albums out on beatport, itunes, and blogs that i dont even need to use soulseek, torrent or other p2p.


here's one of my favorite albums :D the parus, kindzaza, and ocelot tracks are killer. enjoy.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_b6CIhB98B3I/RxLVbasAEOI/AAAAAAAAASg/Yyge2y0P3Y4/s400/alienfm.jpg

http://rapidshare.com/files/61908217/VA_-_Alien_FM_Squared_Illegal_Aliens-2007.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/62517602/VA_-_Alien_FM_Squared_Illegal_Aliens-2007-gEm.part2.rar
TRACKLIST

01 Ocelot - I'm on fire 07:27
02 Freaks of Nature - Lochness 07:23
03 Parus - Vce Doma 07:46
04 Polyphonia - More Satisfaction 07:15
05 Digitalist - Time Warp 07:06
06 Double Core - The 1st Realm 07:25
07 Kindzadza - Pulsar 07:11
08 Ocelot - Whirligig 07:01
09 Samadhi - Life's only a dream 07:00
10 Septagram - On Curry 09:13

thanks, im diggin this.

All except. Part 2 is corrupted.

[Thecookiemonster]

Dammit this rapidshare isnt working.

I have a free user thing on there and when i click omacatls link it goes to it fine. It then shows the file and says file download free user, with the file name under it and that free user and premium speedometer thing. So i click free user and then the speedometers just dissapear and i still cant do anything! AHH sorry im probably just retarded but any help would be great because i really wanna download some more psytrance

[Omacatl]

Dammit this rapidshare isnt working.

I have a free user thing on there and when i click omacatls link it goes to it fine. It then shows the file and says file download free user, with the file name under it and that free user and premium speedometer thing. So i click free user and then the speedometers just dissapear and i still cant do anything! AHH sorry im probably just retarded but any help would be great because i really wanna download some more psytrance

Download: Alien FM Squared: Illegal Aliens
http://rapidshare.com/files/62510437/AlienFM.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/62510775/AlienFM.part2.rar
Password: lime

[lou_reed]

I don't know why but i've never been able to take any form of electronic music too seriously. Sure i like some tracks here and there but on the whole i feel its lacking something. I was having a conversation with a friend about this just a few days ago and we decided that as long as any form of music comes from the heart we'll appreciate it. But with certain genres we just don't feel the message. With albums like pet sounds, american beauty, dark side of the moon, abbey road etc etc theres just so much raw emotion that you feel so connected to the person writing the music. And i find this sort of music has the ability to take your mind to an endless amount of places.
In the end i'm sure it boils down to preference but i can't help but feel like there's something special about music from the 60's and 70's. Something special i can't find in the music made these days.

[StonerBill]

and we will always have that old music with us. but there is more to music than an expression of someone. there is an element of music which is just.. the music + the listener. void of meaning. more of a stimulation which interacts with the music part of the brain, without having to involve direct meanings or emotions or expressions of a soul. pure rhythm+tension+release.

[rygoody]

I don't know why but i've never been able to take any form of electronic music too seriously. Sure i like some tracks here and there but on the whole i feel its lacking something. I was having a conversation with a friend about this just a few days ago and we decided that as long as any form of music comes from the heart we'll appreciate it. But with certain genres we just don't feel the message. With albums like pet sounds, american beauty, dark side of the moon, abbey road etc etc theres just so much raw emotion that you feel so connected to the person writing the music. And i find this sort of music has the ability to take your mind to an endless amount of places.
In the end i'm sure it boils down to preference but i can't help but feel like there's something special about music from the 60's and 70's. Something special i can't find in the music made these days.

some music attempts to, not connect you to the person writing it, but connect you to the world surrounding it

[lou_reed]

and we will always have that old music with us. but there is more to music than an expression of someone. there is an element of music which is just.. the music + the listener. void of meaning. more of a stimulation which interacts with the music part of the brain, without having to involve direct meanings or emotions or expressions of a soul. pure rhythm+tension+release.

I don't feel that pure rhythm tension release with electronic music. It just doesn't cut it for me. I maintain that that old music does a better job of this.


some music attempts to, not connect you to the person writing it, but connect you to the world surrounding it

Man i understand your point completely. When i said that Rock n' Roll from the 60's when i listen to it connects me to the artist, I didn't mean thats all it does I meant thats one of the connections it creates.

[Omacatl]

i feel psytrance does things for me that stuff from 60's and 70's cant. different strokes for different folks i guess.

i don't know about you, but when i am tripping blended face in the middle of the woods with about a hundred other people dancing and pushing their bodies to the limits, and wondering if we are going to have enough baskets for all these severed kitten heads, i want some psytrance blasting out of the speakers. :hat:

[jolom]

i always say you have to listen differently than the way you've listened to music before. it's less about immediate gratification in a 3-4 minute top 40 span and more about rewarding your patience. i used to hate electronic music and cling to the rock music that's been playing out of the radio over the last 30 years. but you know..if you start to pick apart what you hate about electronic music..and then listen in the music you think is "good music" you'll hear a lot of the same stuff. i had a friend who it seemed to me only hated electronic music because he was "supposed to" and i showed him all sorts of "his" music that was based on simple repetitions. you just have to listen differently.

[socker]

A neat thing about electronic music is that the artist has a wider array of sounds easily available to them... I feel like the artist is more able to express what they're trying to get at and that's just swell.

OTOH, being constrained to physical instruments and simple effects presents a challenge, and being able to use them to decent effect is delicious artistry...

If I'm in the mood to admire someone I'll listen to old music.