mixing opiates?

[kil0]

I FINALLY got my hands on some OC40s, after months of looking. You people cant believe how hard it is to find these little bastards. But last night, I was talking with u4ia about mixing some of the tea I have, with one of these 40s, and he said something about it wouldnt be a good idea because the tea would be blocking my opiate-receptors and the OC would just sit there and be wasted. Is this really true??

Cuz I've mixed 20mg of percocets with some tea, and that shit had me nodding wonderfully. and since these damn OCs are so rare here, the last thing I wanna do is waste them. I only got four OC40s, that's all I could get. I got 2 vicodins that I wanted to throw in the mix. Maybe drink some tea, like 20 minutes into it pop 10mg of hydro, and like 20 minutes after that, put an OC up my nose. I've been waiting for this shit like 2 months. But would mixing really waste it??

[kil0]

another note, damn these 40s are small compared to the 80s. I mean, obviously I know they're twice the strength, but I expected these things to be a bit bigger.

two 40s side by side are about the length of a xanax bar, they're pretty small.

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[Feelings Of U4ia]

Yeah, the 40's are like almost half the size of the 80's.

Don't quote me on what I said on AIM, but it is what I have heard. I wouldn't say you would completely waste it....

I have just heard that you have receptors that opiates bind to. When you take an opiate, it attaches itself to that receptor, to reduce pain and give you euphoria and all that good stuff. If your receptors are all being preoccupied with let's say, Oxycodone....if you in turn try to take some Morphine, you aren't going to experience the full effects of the Morphine because the receptors already have the Oxycodone binded to them.

This is what I have heard, I actually think I read it on Opiophile, but I can't say for sure if this is true or not. I know from personal experience that it seems to hold true.

It may very well depend on a lot of different factors. People have different body chemistry, so one person it might work on, and the next it might not. It also might have to do with the dose being taken of each substance. If you take a little amount of each substance, maybe it wouldn't make a big difference because you aren't taking up all the space in the receptors.

I have no idea what I am talking about, again. Haha. This is just what I have heard, hopefully someone more educated on the subject can help out, because I would like to know the truth about this also.

I just remembered as I was typing this, that I have a best friend who is in his 3rd year of pharmacy school, so I will ask him and post what I find here.

[kil0]

thanks u4ia. shit, im trying to do this tomorrow, but you got me scared of wasting my pills. these things are holy where Im at, wasting one is a sin. im gonna have to do more research..

[mephist00]

man idk why, but that does ring a bell for some reason.. the tea thing..
but my mind could just be playing tricks.. :P

anyways congrats on the find :)

oh, and dude, just walk around asking older people, they love to sell their pills lol maybe dont be that bold about it.. ask some older people you know.. i have a bunch of oc connections, just over time i asked around, and asked those people i asked to ask around.. now i have 5 connections for it, and they are all older folks, nice as hell too :P

[kil0]

man, I know a few older folks who have percocets and vikes, but OCs are harder to find than a black guy in a republican convention.

[mephist00]

man, I know a few older folks who have percocets and vikes, but OCs are harder to find than a black guy in a republican convention.

LOL! naw, they are around.. you just have to find them :D well they should be anyways.. unless they are strict about prescriptions for that stuff, around where you live..

[char777]

I read a study about two weeks ago or so that drinks such as grape juice, other juices, tea, coffee, and others can inhibit substances from reaching their full effect, but they were mostly talking about blood medications. Since opiates usually affect the central nervous system, I don't think you should have too much of a problem. However, like what the people above have said, your body can only intake a certain amount of pills, so do waste them by taking too many when it will give you the same effect.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

I read a study about two weeks ago or so that drinks such as grape juice, other juices, tea, coffee, and others can inhibit substances from reaching their full effect, but they were mostly talking about blood medications. Since opiates usually affect the central nervous system, I don't think you should have too much of a problem. However, like what the people above have said, your body can only intake a certain amount of pills, so do waste them by taking too many when it will give you the same effect.

No offense, but did you even read the original post? He wasn't worried about juices affecting his high. Nobody said that your body can only intake a certain amount of pills, that really doesn't even make sense?

Taking too many does not give you the same effect...we are talking about taking DIFFERENT opiates and combining them together. You are basically saying that if 80mg of Oxycodone gets you high, then 120mg is going to give you the same effects, which is false, again, no offense.

[-beatnick]

i dont know why the opiate receptors would be blocked because of the tea.

i've done uh... heroin and percoset, and i'd just say be careful, thats aboout it, take it slow, etc.

[kil0]

heaven here I come. God, start preparing my welcome home party. I jsut snorted an OC40, and am drinking the tea as we speak. Im already feeling a small rush coming in. I need to get some mroe of these 40s!! and I popped 3mg of xanax because my goal is nodd in and outta consciousness, the best feeling in the world after bustin a nut and trippin on lucy.

oh man, my eyelids are starting to get heavy, I love it, thank you OCs!!!!

[kil0]

damn, the itchies are creepin up!! omg the bliss... the only thing is, damn, Im almost sure Im gonna have to snort another 40 later on.. and damn I wanted to conserve these bitches.

[CSU_Student]

another note, damn these 40s are small compared to the 80s. I mean, obviously I know they're twice the strength, but I expected these things to be a bit bigger.



Wow, hold on there, are you saying that a 40mg is twice the strength of a 80mg? or do you mean the other way around... I am sure that I am just nodding and mistaken... right? Ya... no way, by the other wording i guess you mean that the 80mg are twice the size and strength... right???? Ya.... it must be what your saying... Ya... BTW... ENJOY IT DUDE, hope your nodding peacefully!

[kil0]

yeah of course. the 80s are twice the strength of the 40s, and almost twice the size too.

right now, Im on 4.5mg of xanax, 60mg of OC, and drank a cup of poppy tea. Its getting hard to keep my eyes open, soon Im gonna start noddin wonerfully. :drool5:

[does2]

yeah of course. the 80s are twice the strength of the 40s, and almost twice the size too.

right now, Im on 4.5mg of xanax, 60mg of OC, and drank a cup of poppy tea. Its getting hard to keep my eyes open, soon Im gonna start noddin wonerfully. :drool5:

and i will always love you.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

i dont know why the opiate receptors would be blocked because of the tea.

i've done uh... heroin and percoset, and i'd just say be careful, thats aboout it, take it slow, etc.

Because the tea has Morphine AND Codeine derivatives in it. Opium tea isn't some just normal little OTC high, it has REAL opiate alkaloids in it.

Also, kil0....taking almost 5mg of xanax and Oxycontin is just asking to kill yourself.

My friend who had a tolerance 3 times the size of yours just died off of 6mg of xanax, and 80mg of Oxy...

Xanax doesn't make you nod harder....I don't know why you always add that to it. The only thing that is going to make you nod harder is MORE opiates, not Benzo's. You just think you are nodding harder because the benzo's make you sedated, but you aren't actually getting a better nod because of it, and you are actually risking your life.

[patHAOomg]

dude, i haven't heard from Kilo in a few hours...

he hit me up on AIM at like 5pm, while i was away, and said he would be back on in a little while to chat... still haven't heard from him. he's prolly cool i would think.

i just know he took that xanax / poppy tea / oxy combo and that wasn't such a bright idea. very dangerous in all reality.

i hope he's ok, man. :confused:

[Feelings Of U4ia]

dude, i haven't heard from Kilo in a few hours...

he hit me up on AIM at like 5pm, while i was away, and said he would be back on in a little while to chat... still haven't heard from him. he's prolly cool i would think.

i just know he took that xanax / poppy tea / oxy combo and that wasn't such a bright idea. very dangerous in all reality.

i hope he's ok, man. :confused:

I warned him about Xanax with opiates, and he doesn't care or worry..nothing more I can do.

[does2]

I warned him about Xanax with opiates, and he doesn't care or worry..nothing more I can do.

guys... a few of us, especially Kilo know the risks, know our tolerances as well.
kilo is one of the few i trust to mix benzos and opiates.
after all, high dosages are lethal in everything :D

[Feelings Of U4ia]

guys... a few of us, especially Kilo know the risks, know our tolerances as well.
kilo is one of the few i trust to mix benzos and opiates.
after all, high dosages are lethal in everything :D

Just because you know your tolerance doesn't make a difference. My friend who JUST died knew his tolerance, he had done that combo hundreds of times. It just isn't worth the risk, IMO.

[does2]

Just because you know your tolerance doesn't make a difference. My friend who JUST died knew his tolerance, he had done that combo hundreds of times. It just isn't worth the risk, IMO.

"IMO" is a great term!

sorry about your friend, kilo is just one of the few here i dont think twice about when it comes to self control and safety.

sidenote: the benzo+opiate combo is worth near death to me :D

[Guitar]

I gotta disagree that benzos don't make you nod harder. It's a sedative, so of course its gonna make you nod out harder, whenever I throw in 1 or 2 mgs of benzos while I'm on oxy, the opiate effects enhance. But 5 mgs of xanax is very dangerous, but I remember kilo saying he had a huge tolerance for xanax. But still its dangerous especially when mixing two other opiates. Also I don't think tea would block your receptors, whenever I mix opiates it works wonderfully.

[TooCrisp]

kil0, whats up buddy. glad you got yourself some of those delicious 40's. Im surprised to hear you say they are very hard to get by you. I though pk's were all over in Florida. I can generally get oc's anytime I want here up north.

i'm not a fan of xanax but i actually took a 1mg last week. my buddy had picked some up and asked if i wanted one. i said sure--rolled a nice blunt--and next thing I knew it was morning. haha. if i were you the only thing i'd mix it with is weed. benzo's mixed with other downers can be real dangerous. as for mixing the 40s with tea or vikes, I'd say no. seems kinda like a waste to me.

[junglejack]

Ive been on a methadone program for years.... Every dope fiend at the clinic who wants to get the heroin high takes a xanax or 2.
The methadone blocks the effects of heroin ,but its still an opiate so if ya take a stick or 2 with your dose (or double up if you get take home bottles) you will get close to that nod that is so hard to achieve after years of building up a tolerance

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Ive been on a methadone program for years.... Every dope fiend at the clinic who wants to get the heroin high takes a xanax or 2.
The methadone blocks the effects of heroin ,but its still an opiate so if ya take a stick or 2 with your dose (or double up if you get take home bottles) you will get close to that nod that is so hard to achieve after years of building up a tolerance

You will also get kicked out of the Methadone clinic if you piss dirty for benzos. You won't however, get kicked out for pissing dirty for coke or anything else. It's because Methadone and Benzo's is one of the most, if not the MOST deadliest combo you can take.

I gotta disagree that benzos don't make you nod harder. It's a sedative, so of course its gonna make you nod out harder, whenever I throw in 1 or 2 mgs of benzos while I'm on oxy, the opiate effects enhance. But 5 mgs of xanax is very dangerous, but I remember kilo saying he had a huge tolerance for xanax. But still its dangerous especially when mixing two other opiates. Also I don't think tea would block your receptors, whenever I mix opiates it works wonderfully.

I still stick by what I said...it doesn't make the opiate "nod" any harder. Just like you said, it's a sedative, so of course it's going to make you a little drowsy, but drowsy, and nodding, are two COMPLETELY different things. There is no proof that benzo's potentiate the opiate high, that I am aware of. Of course you are going to feel more fucked up, you are adding another powerful medication to the already powerful opiate, but I don't believe it makes the opiate high any more pronounced, or harder.

This is based of personal experience too, before you say that I have never tried the combo myself. I have tried it with many benzo's.

[junglejack]

You will also get kicked out of the Methadone clinic if you piss dirty for benzos. You won't however, get kicked out for pissing dirty for coke or anything else. It's because Methadone and Benzo's is one of the most, if not the MOST deadliest combo you can take.

At my clinic you wont get kicked off for coke ,as long as opiates keep coming up with it.
You can piss dirty for opiates forever ,you just wont get any take home bottles, but they wont kick you off-
If you have a script for your benzos you wont get kicked off
If you dont- you will > after awhile
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[Feelings Of U4ia]

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If you have a script for your benzos you wont get kicked off
If you dont- you will after awhile- -

The clinics down here don't even like to take patients on that are currently prescribed benzo's , due to the extreme risk of the combination.

If you are caught with benzo's in your system ONE time, you are done...that is how it is in Florida, and New Jersey, as far as I know. You can fail for coke, meth, just about anything, and it takes quite a few fuck-ups before they start doing anything about it. Benzo's are a zero-tolerance policy though.

[junglejack]

I am in Jersey- Asbury Park Clinic- your right , w/o a script they will toss ya. However, if you do have a valid script they cant- - they don't like it, but they don't throw ya off

[Guitar]

You will also get kicked out of the Methadone clinic if you piss dirty for benzos. You won't however, get kicked out for pissing dirty for coke or anything else. It's because Methadone and Benzo's is one of the most, if not the MOST deadliest combo you can take.



I still stick by what I said...it doesn't make the opiate "nod" any harder. Just like you said, it's a sedative, so of course it's going to make you a little drowsy, but drowsy, and nodding, are two COMPLETELY different things. There is no proof that benzo's potentiate the opiate high, that I am aware of. Of course you are going to feel more fucked up, you are adding another powerful medication to the already powerful opiate, but I don't believe it makes the opiate high any more pronounced, or harder.

This is based of personal experience too, before you say that I have never tried the combo myself. I have tried it with many benzo's.

Well I guess we'll agree to disagree. Opiates plus benzos plus weed is my ultimate high.

[porkstock41]

^^^maybe you guys aren't really disagreeing...
he only said that adding benzos to an opiate doesn't really have an effect on the opiate high itself. of course you get more fucked up cuz you are adding one drug to another drug, but it doesn't make you "nod harder" (having not done opiates much, i barely know what that means) or increase your opiate high, it gets you high in a different (and dangerous) way.

synergy

and about the original question, combining different opiates....i don't see why that wouldn't work. i mean i don't think it would block your receptors. to me it seems similar to adding another dose of the same opiate.
let's see...you take an OC pill, get high, start to come down (the drug is coming off of your receptors), take another, get high again (more of the drug binds to those receptors).
OR, you take twice the OC dose at once, there's more drug to bind more of the receptors...you get highER. i'm sure there is a point that you saturate your receptors, but i dunno if this comes before or after ODing.

so it seems to me that combining OC, with hydros, and tea (morphine tea? i'm not sure what you were talking about), you would just have more opiates that bind to opiate receptors and get you more high. it's not like one dose of one of the drugs takes up all the receptors in your brain - if that was the case you'd probably be dead.

this is all kinda speculation, although i do have a bachelor's in biochemistry.

it's all pretty complicated really. each opiate has a different binding constant for the (different?) opiate receptors, is absorbed differently i would assume...

anyways, kinda a long post, hope you guys get something out of it.
actually, i just hope you read it and are entertained. don't take what i say to heart, it could all be bullshit. i wouldn't want anyone to hurt themselves, thinking they can combine a bunch of different opiates...blah blah blah
i'm no doctor, yet.

[kil0]

ki0 died. from an overdose. he's an idiot.


NO LMFAOOO. Thanks you guys for being so concerned, trust me, I know exactly whata fuck Im doing.

I got another OC40 for FREE :) along with 3 7.5mg vikes.

[does2]

ki0 died. from an overdose. he's an idiot.


NO LMFAOOO. Thanks you guys for being so concerned, trust me, I know exactly whata fuck Im doing.

I got another OC40 for FREE :) along with 3 7.5mg vikes.

be careful... those hydro's might send ya over the edge :eek:

[Guitar]

ki0 died. from an overdose. he's an idiot.


NO LMFAOOO. Thanks you guys for being so concerned, trust me, I know exactly whata fuck Im doing.

I got another OC40 for FREE :) along with 3 7.5mg vikes.

so whats your conclusion on mixing opiates?

[junglejack]

Well today for instance- - I drank my Saturday take home bottle 120mgs (Malincroft cherry type liquid methadone), & I drank my Sunday bottle . Took a 2mg Xanax.
Felt nice all day and still do. Went out for breakfast, raked the leaves, went shopping for sneakers. It was not too much at all & tomorrow I wont take anything ,as methadone lasts a long time and there is plenty in my system till Monday.
At 58 yrs old , Ive slowed down in the getting high area ,(maybe it don't look that way) so I look forward to Saturdays - - - but--
For the average person who just started a program or never took methadone before - they would ve be dead in about a hour with that combo. Tolerance is a big deal when fuckin with opiates. People must be very cognizant of that-
As far as mixing a different kinds of opiate with my dose- - it would be a waste.Ive tried to - but because methadone is so strong and long acting, you need a very powerful breakthrough drug. It just aint worth it at this point.
You can feel heroin only if its very strong ,or you do enough of it. Now that gets way too dangerous- -
becarefuloutthere,
jjack :hat:

Oh I just remembered - in NAM we had this stuff called Mekong MindFuck. It was Thai weed dipped in sticky opium & laced with heroin.
Man , that made for some really confusing patrols. -

[mephist00]

i knew he was fucked, sad about kil0.. lol

the conclusion, is, KNOW YOUR TOLERANCE!
if u know ur tolerance u wont die lol

i mix opiates and benzos all the time, gets me fucked, but i dont puke

[does2]

kilo, if you shall perish.
i got dibs on ya stash mayne :D

[kil0]

kilo, if you shall perish.
i got dibs on ya stash mayne :D


sun, i wont die but if I do, you can have my stash; because its practically nothin lol.

anyways, im on a roadtrip, so I'll see you niggas sunday night or monday.

Positive Energy Always Corrects Errors

[does2]

sun, i wont die but if I do, you can have my stash; because its practically nothin lol.

anyways, im on a roadtrip, so I'll see you niggas sunday night or monday.

Positive Energy Always Corrects Errors

be safe, mayne :D

[-beatnick]

haha, got a little worried myself until i saw this page and you're post and then i was like lol. but still man, drugs like these ain't no joke. theres always potential for oding.

[kil0]

so whats your conclusion on mixing opiates?

its pretty good, but as mephist00 said, you just gotta know your tolerance and what you're doing.

That one night, I took a stupidly high amount of xanax, like 5mg, and about snorted about 60mg of oxycodone, and drank some tea. I had a lot of fun, but remember, I didint do all this at once, I spaced it out.

[RoxStar]

Just to double check it's safe to mix (chemically) different substances and brands...roxie with ox? I've GOT to urge all to re-read beatnick's statement...don't lose track of time and rail another line too early. It happened while tripping (I had tooo much) and I had to force myself to stay awake with stimulants like pepsi and then, out of nowhere...puke. To be honest, rox had a little scare there for a minute..for real.

-rox

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Just to double check it's safe to mix (chemically) different substances and brands...roxie with ox? I've GOT to urge all to re-read beatnick's statement...don't lose track of time and rail another line too early. It happened while tripping (I had tooo much) and I had to force myself to stay awake with stimulants like pepsi and then, out of nowhere...puke. To be honest, rox had a little scare there for a minute..for real.

-rox

Roxi and Oxy is the same thing. Percocet is the same thing as Roxi, and Oxy.

It's all Oxycodone HCL, just one has a time-release, one has tylenol in it, and one is instant release.

[RoxStar]

^^ Thought so...cheers.

[-beatnick]

Just to double check it's safe to mix (chemically) different substances and brands...roxie with ox? I've GOT to urge all to re-read beatnick's statement...don't lose track of time and rail another line too early. It happened while tripping (I had tooo much) and I had to force myself to stay awake with stimulants like pepsi and then, out of nowhere...puke. To be honest, rox had a little scare there for a minute..for real.

-rox

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[RoxStar]

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[Endo]

<< Wow Rox....Ive been doing drugs since forever and I take my hat off to ya....You survived what many many would not have.

I havent read this entire thread...but looking at the thread topic and first few posts about mixing opiates and recepters in your brain. I am prescribed Methadone and Percocet for chronic pain and I must say that before they had me on the methadone the percocet 7.5 I was taking took the pain away and had me happily drifting through my days. Then when the percs werent cutting it ( at that time it was 240 a month ) they added Methadone 10 - 20 MG a day and that just screwed up my percocet high for good. I need the methadone for the pain and it knocks it down good but no longer do the percocets make me feel as great. I can wake up in the morning and if I am really feeling bad I will swallow 3 methadone HCL 10mg and take 3 to 3 and a half percocets 7.5s and feel much better...actually pretty damn good for about 2 hours then its done. If it were me and I was not a addicted user ( wishful thinking ) I would take just the percocet or OC. And by the way....some may beleive me and some not...the tylenol in a percocet adds so much to the effect. Makes it so much better. Sounds stupid but I have been taking these every single day since 2002 and I consider myself a experianced user. I have weaned myself back to only 2 percs and 2 methadone now but cant seem to get below that. Someday mabey I will be done with them.

Endo

First post here....so.....hello everyone : )

[Guitar]

For me, APAP doesn't add to the effects, but I don't take them for pain. If I had to choose from 4 5mg percs, or 20 mgs oxycontin, it'd be the contin.

[Endo]

For me, APAP doesn't add to the effects, but I don't take them for pain. If I had to choose from 4 5mg percs, or 20 mgs oxycontin, it'd be the contin.

Well...Ive never snorted oxy. Ive chewed the 10MG oxys b4 and never thought much of them. Mabey Im just used to the ones I get. I can say that the diffferent brands of percocets do work differently. I prefer the peach ones to the white ones.

[Euphorial]

Well...Ive never snorted oxy. Ive chewed the 10MG oxys b4 and never thought much of them. Mabey Im just used to the ones I get. I can say that the diffferent brands of percocets do work differently. I prefer the peach ones to the white ones.

haha you prefer the peach ones because they're 40 mg instead of 10-20 :D

I'm getting 4.5 OC 40mgs today :drool5:

Might be able to get some Xanax next week too... combo? yesh!

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Well...Ive never snorted oxy. Ive chewed the 10MG oxys b4 and never thought much of them. Mabey Im just used to the ones I get. I can say that the diffferent brands of percocets do work differently. I prefer the peach ones to the white ones.

It's all the same thing, don't let silly high school kids make you think the different colors are "better." It's a marketing trick to make people think the generics are "better," since they are cheaper for the seller to acquire.