Are we still the people of courage?

[Goddess Om]

"'When the moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, then peace will guide the planet and love will steer the stars. This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius"...maybe it sounds dated, but it still gives me goose-bumps.
Most people had never even heard about astrology when that song came out. We knew we had to get it together and that the world and people needed to change for the better.
We made a peaceful revolution, where love and gentleness was the currency. But we had to fight for it in our homes, in our bedrooms and on the streets. We had to fight to grow our hair, to wear our jeans, to listen to our music, to refuse to fight, to march for peace. It didn't come from doing nothing, but from knowing that we had to take action. Having the courage to speak out, to get arrested, to tie ourselves to trees, to lay down in front of trucks. Having the audacity to see ourselves as The Beautiful People. Having the vision and the courage to make a new kind of statement and a new kind of life.
"We are this season's people.
There will be no other people this season.
If we blow it, it's blown".
(Stephen Gaskin from "This Season's People")
We came together to fight prejudice and fear with love and compassion. To conquer war with peace and hatred with love. To break free from the servitude of conservatism because we had a love of freedom and a soaring belief in ourselves. And I think we were a good crop of people that season, and we didn't blow it. The seeds that we planted are still sprouting and producing new life. The young hippies here are the living proof. But it's still up to all of us to walk our talk, to put our passionate philosophies to the test of life's experiences. To create a better life.

Where are the people of courage? Where are the ones who will stand up against all the lies, deceptions, propaganda, ignorance, confusion, apathy, inertia, oppression, racism, fascism and greed? Did we come this far just to leave it to someone else to fix? I think not...

Yeah, we've been around a long time and some of us are getting tired and maybe feeling a bit old. But while ever you can remember something, you can recreate it inside yourself. We can't let ourselves rust up like old boats. Turn the music up full blast. Dance in the living room. Be a child of the universe again. Love yourself up. Love others with the purest passion and dedication. Speak with courage and conviction. See a rock band. Fuck the daylights out of someone. Ride a Harley. Remember how freedom feels...and then fight for it.

[shameless_heifer]

Stands up next to Goddess Om..her trusty Onk in hand.. her tie-dye t-shirt glowing in neons.. united we stand together we will stand every boy, child, woman and man, come on people.. Lets get together... ya ya ya ..lets get together, come on people together we will stand every boy, child, woman and man..

You know if we were really motavated and know what we do today as oppossed to the 60's, I belive we could bring it.. and carry it on over to the other side.. our abillity to cut through the old BS and demand that things be changed.. But then we have to live with the changes..how can we do away with oil..in like say 4 yrs.. what would that do to our daily lives.. could we go solar totaly in that span of time.. change it globaly.. whew.. that is a lot to do.. but I'm willin' if your willin'..

[homebudz]

I got th' harleys......................

[shameless_heifer]

Homebudz... can you build a solar powered harley.?

[Southernman]

I don't know, if I would like to drive a sun powered Harley. And the Harleys of today are sun powerded too. The power of the sun was in the plants million years ago, which became later the petrol oil. But I wouldn't mind to use a sun powered vehicle beside the Harley.

Thanks Goddess Om for opening this thread.

Yes, we're still the people of courage!!!!

TEACH YOUR CHILDREN

You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well,
Their fathers' hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick's, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick's, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
(Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/279adrian1.jpg

And Don't Forget To Boogie!!!

[homebudz]

[QUOTE=shameless_heifer]Homebudz... can you build a solar powered harley.?


Then it wouldn't be a harley.If maybe your refering to a solar powered motorcycle,yes.It would be pretty heavy,expensive,and have a short range and fairly low speed.Photo cells are not very efficient,and are very large,or more accuratly,take up a lot of space.Batteries are another downfall.Technology is starting to refine the old battery designs,but they are still heavy.Then there is a electric motor.Not really heavy,but not a lot of power either.The solar powered cars you see on TLC,Discovery,etc are special purpose light weight vehicles.Certainly not made for everyday wear and tear.They are more like "proof of concept" vehicles I believe.It's my belief that oil companies suppress the hightech ideas that would get us out of oil dependence.There are of course other interests that don't want us to have "green" vehicles.WHEW!!!! Thats what you get for asking me an 8 word question (LMAO).

[homebudz]

Hey Southernman,nice sporty.1200 Custom? Stock pipes/carb/ignition.Bring it around to my shop and we'll turn that iron into a fire breathin road demon.
Guarenteed to scare th' crap outta ya.Peace bro-ride on.

[teepi]

Fuel cells will change alot of things that are going on, but I think on a large scale even they are not getting the respect and attention they should.

Greenland or is it Iceland??? One of them is almost totally if not totally dependent on wind power now.
We could have taken alot of that 200 billion that went overseas and built some hellacious windfarms. Ever see one of those???Blow your socks off (literally).

As long as greed and big business are running this country, I am not holding my breath on this one, we do what we can on our land to not soak up mass quantities, and be aware. But "large scale" wise???That went out the window with Jimmy and his energy credits being wiped out by the Reagan admn.
Just think if we could have kept that up from 1977 where we would be now??
Not as dependent as they want you to think we are on other countries. We have massive oil reserves here,but in greed usa they want you to think we must keep our interests protected overseas. I have no interests to protect do you??? At least not any across the water.And certainly not at the expense of this country.
I've been involved in politics and worked for a newspaper and its more for naught than not. I used to be very involved in numerous political causes but now, yeah I guess I am tired, its sometimes more than I can bear to see the stupidity that is generated in the name of "Goverment".
As far as one party over another??? Shit, do you think the President actually has much say?? They bombard you with their spin on the issues that their "team" has ear marked, that they deem the issues that are on the majorities tongues, then when everyone is rallying around and patting everyone else on the back............

Nevermind......lol.
Teepi gets nutty over this stuff and starts dancing around the campfire, spouting one of her rants..........

[luvndrumn]

It's my belief that oil companies suppress the hightech ideas that would get us out of oil dependence.
Bro budz, I'll go ya one better. They don't suppress it; they BUY it. If you're holding rights on the patent, you can do what you want with it. Talk about control. And what do the oil companies have more than oil? $$$$$$$$$

teepi, I think those oil reserves are 'strategic'. You know, for when we go to war and need more oil than the Saudis are willing to give us. OR when the president needs to ramp up his popularity with the sheeple and lower the price per gallon for a month or two - just long enough to win the election.

[mimosa]

Yeah, we've been around a long time and some of us are getting tired and maybe feeling a bit old. But while ever you can remember something, you can recreate it inside yourself. We can't let ourselves rust up like old boats. Turn the music up full blast. Dance in the living room. Be a child of the universe again. Love yourself up. Love others with the purest passion and dedication. Speak with courage and conviction. See a rock band. Fuck the daylights out of someone. Ride a Harley. Remember how freedom feels...and then fight for it.
haven't ridden a Harley lately but that's next on my list. All the rest I can relate to, in a major way. There's hope yet!! :)

[homebudz]

Teepi,,,,,RIGHT ON SISTER!!! Same same to LUVNDRUM,cept RIGHT ON BRO.I have heard about fantastic inventions bought up and put on the shelf.Whatever happened to help your fellow man,or save or planet???? Why is money and power so attractive to so many?Why do people want to control other people?I have never in my life understood these concepts.They blow my mind.I know I'm just scooder trash/hippie,but the thought of wanting to control anything more then my own life is just too far out for me to grasp.Oh well,simple things for simple minds like mine,peace.

[shameless_heifer]

I have to go along with luvndrumn.. My hubby Lynn worked in the oil fields 20 yrs. Everything in East Texas was oil related in the 80's, trucking.. trains.. water disposal plants...Lynn and his crew layed most all the pipe line from okla to la..when Lynn broke his back bustin' out a slab in 87, the oil biz was ging down.. they capped all the wells in this area and belive me, there's plenty of oil here in texas.. Lynn and I both have 'Oil Royalities' we inherited from our grandparents.. the trend that has been around here of late, is that the oil fields are starting to open back up again.. pumping units are starting to show up back off in the woods.. I dont know what indacation this may bring..crude oil in texas is not as high grade as forien oil, from what I understand but hey I'm just an Iridologest what do I know about oil.. it sure doesnt show up in the royality checks, last one was for 1.64.. the one before that was $0.14 .. ha... the stamp cost more that the oil..


hey HomeBudz/ what about gas-a-hol.. can ya convert a hog over to let's say.. corn mash?? not trying to be funny..I can't see a future without the Harley.. it just wouldn't be right.. and what would my bro in law do all day without his.. who would he sleep with at night without his Harley.. his wife??? ohh myyy.. and all our bro bikers.. good grief.. I shudder to think of all the bikers without petral for their bad machines..

[homebudz]

Unless the engine is designed to run on alternative fuels,no.If you look in the fuel requirments in your owners manual,you'll find what fuels you can safely run.Ethanol and methanol are a no no unless your vehicle has been designed to run that.If not,you'll not only damage your engine,you void the warrenty.I found this out the hard way on my then new 2001 jeep.The mileage dropped by more then half and it fried my very expensive splitfire platinum plugs.This happened when driving across nebraska.All of their fuel is like 10% ethanol from corn.I don't recommend it.

[Peace-Phoenix]

If you've got a diesel engine, you can run it on bio-diesel without needing to convert your engine at all. You can make bio-diesel from sunflower oil or chip fat and it's carbon neutral....
http://www.schnews.org.uk/diyguide/howtomakebiodiesel.htm

[teepi]

Yeah Peace, i recall seeing something on the tube awhile back about a converter a man invented for your vehicle that would run the used cooking oil through.

He had restaurants giving him gallons of the stuff.

Another example of something you hear a blurb about and then nothing else.....
Could it be a mid-night visit from the men in black suits???????

Wow - Shamless, your family sure has been through the mill, I'm so sorry to hear about your husband. You are both admirable, having come through so much and holding to your beliefs and ways of life.

You're so right LUV about strategies...we are manipulated all the time with things like that. Tell the sheeple (I love that word) what they want to hear, peppered with what we want them to think they want and lo and behold.....big bro comes out on top every time.
Like I said, when mass quantities of people get feed up then things may start to change but not untill they are hit in the wallet hard and long enough will they start saying "Hey, wait a minute..."........

Remember about 3 years back when this whole gas thing started going goofy??? And the long haul truckers started blocking the interstates...then the prices went back down (a bit) now they have steadily been growing and yo-yoing since???
The truckers scared the powers that be...but the truckers can't afford to abandon trucks or stop working for any length of time...so things just ease right into crap.
Look at milk right now...almost 4 dollars a gallon in some areas. We are lucky because we make our own here in this house, but I see people buying it in the store..griping the whole time instead of refusing to buy it and finding an alternative...thats is a big problem...ignorance and not many willing to take on the task of learning for themselves the ways of making do.
Just wait till we go into a major depression in this country...think it can't happen??? Has before, and war being the big business that it is, is what pulled this country out. But things aren't how they were back in the 30's and 40's....peoples attitudes aren't the same.
We are not "all for one and one for all" anymore...It's "I got mine's..fuck you"...and "I'll take your's too...fuck you"...
So....if we are faced with a depression, things will be far worse than they ever were at that time....It's imperative that we be prepared to be as self-suficiant as possible.

Also, don't you just hate to see waste?? Thats another one, a throw away society, from trash on the sides of the roads. to our marriages...

And another rant I could get started on is "the banking industry" thats something else that will eventually affect us all, I read that some employers are going to use a card for their employees and charge up the card with their pay so that the employee uses it like a credit card and every time they use it it will debit them about 2.00.
The employer benifits by not having to have a paper payroll done and gets a kick back from the card company, ...it was about a year ago that I read about this....but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the idea didn't catch on.

It seems that while we're asleep they're up thinking about ways to screw us out of our money....

Ok enough for today...I have to go find a way to make my daily 10.00
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

living off the grid can be scary if one thinks about what may happen when the shit does hit the fan..everybody will be in chaos and ripin' off what ever they want.. if you got it and they want it..it's gonna come down to shooting someone..I don't mind sharing.. if you work for it..but to come and take it from my kids mouth, well there's gonna be a show down.. I don't know how that effects my hippieness but mama tiger over rules mama hippie..and I will shoot.. my hubbys people are The Clantons from OK Corral and Wyatt Erp and they a pretty wild bunch still.. I'd hate to see a rumble out here on the farm over tomatos or a goat .. but what are we ready to do.. how far would you go.. or would you offer it all to them in peace and love..

[Peace-Phoenix]

Often oil companies try to buy up the rights to alternative energy sources as quickly as possible. Firstly it helps them to maintain their profits whilst killing mother nature, and secondly it gives them a fallback once the oil supplies have run out. Bio-diesel can be bought from suppliers here in the UK, but it's quite heavily taxed, and costs about the same as normal diesel. It's quite easy to make it at home though, and costs about a quarter the price of normal diesel when home made, although doing this without going through the tax man is quite illegal. With that in mind, I fully intent to start making my own as soon as I get myself a car....

[gate68]

[QUOTE=shameless_heifer] what do I know about oil.. it sure doesnt show up in the royality checks, last one was for 1.64.. the one before that was $0.14 .. ha... the stamp cost more that the oil..


QUOTE]

My dad being Cherokee decendent gets royality checks from Phillips Oil in Oklahoma.Typically around $0.19.It's really just a family joke.My dad the oil tycoon.

[Goddess Om]

[QUOTE=teepi]Like I said, when mass quantities of people get feed up then things may start to change but not untill they are hit in the wallet hard and long enough will they start saying "Hey, wait a minute..."........

I agree with everything you've said Teepi...but when you talk about mass quantities of people - well, how about ALL OF US - aren't we The Baby Boomers? Aren't we gonna be one huge wave of old farts givin' em hell?
When we were 16 we didn't think in terms of "how many of us are there anyway?" - we just did it because we got stirred up enough to do something. We got indignant! We got righteously indignant! And nobody was gonna shut us up. And each of us just did something in our own place, our own town or school or workplace. That's all it takes.
Today the propaganda seems worse. Sometimes I actually feel ill. Most of the time I truly feel embarrassed for the poor shmucks out there who appear to believe all the crap fed to the masses.

We are not "all for one and one for all" anymore...It's "I got mine's..fuck you"...and "I'll take your's too...fuck you"...
So....if we are faced with a depression, things will be far worse than they ever were at that time....It's imperative that we be prepared to be as self-suficiant as possible.
Well said! The seeping greed has filtered into everyone, and they only yell when it looks like someone's going to take something of theirs, or a dollar out of their pockets...but there's more than one way to tackle materialism. We can put our energy into its opposite.
Teach your children and your grandchildren the 'real treasures" of life, and love and nature. Keep teaching them spiritual/human values and about love and equality and human rights, and protecting the animals, and healing the earth. These will be the next doctors, lawyers, politicians, film-makers, artists, journalists, musicians, teachers etc. Encourage and inspire them with a vision to transform the future.

Also, don't you just hate to see waste?? Thats another one, a throw away society, from trash on the sides of the roads. to our marriages...
They do it because they can. They can convince us with a 2 minute ad to buy some piece of garbage we don't really want or need. Start fighting back with your own anti-ad campaign. When an ad comes on recite a mantra like "I have all I need to be happy and whole".

It seems that while we're asleep they're up thinking about ways to screw us out of our money....
Right on, again. Banking, insurance companies...USURY is the old term for it, I believe. A vicious and insidious evil if there ever was one. Multinational corporations feeding off the middle class and destroying the lower class. This is undeniably a form of economic slavery, but no one seems to recognise what is going on. Let's support those people protesting so bravely against the multinationals. It gets pretty rough out there. The big boys play dirty and ugly. Those protesters need all the support they can get.

As for oil and Harleys...maybe it doesn't have to be "all or nothing". Maybe we can have a LOVELY BALANCE. If each of us experiments and finds ways to balance these things in our own lives, we should eventually be able to pass on a few learnings to others. Bio Diesel sounds outstanding! Can one of us have a go at making it and using it?

You know we could easily start things on a small scale and watch them expand outwards. Like begin with one little group of committed people, which starts communicating and sharing information with some of the other little groups. The internet is ideal for stuff like that. But it has to be practical. We have to get off our backsides. We have to address at least some of the important issues. Even the longest journey begins with a small step.

We have to stop thinking in terms of numbers, or it gets too overwhemlming and people feel defeated before they even start. Think of the numbers game as an illusion. What counts is energy, commitment, dedication. Remember that quote - not sure who said it, but something like this: "All it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing".

[shameless_heifer]

gate it's a family joke here too.. but I can rightfully call myself a Texas Oil Hieress..ha..I'm not Indain, but my hubby is 1/4 cherokee and has oil rights from his grandfather.. My mineral rights come from my great grand mothers brother..

[Southernman]

Here at Germany it's allready possible to drive regular with Bio Diesel. Round about 1.800 Stations offer it country wide, the prices are ca. 3 Cent below the price of petrol Diesel. It's produced with 'Raps' (rape?), a yellow flower. I tested it several times with my 1700ccm Ford Sierra Turbo Diesel, there is no difference to petrol diesel by speeding on the Autobahn and no need for a special tuning of the engine. Problem is, by using all possible fields here for growing Raps, it's just 10% of the overall needed diesel amount in Germany. In nearly all municipalities the public autobusses are driven by fluid- gas, but this isn't easy to handle and you need extra expensive equipement in your privat car for using it.

Homebudz, how much would I like to ride a fire breathing road demon , but until I find a way, to transport my bike two times over the ocean without needing to become a millionaire, I'll drive this one the next few years. I drove BMW and Moto Guzzi in earlier times, really good bikes too, some Oldtimers, like NSU and Zuendapp too, but a Harley is a Harley, especially on the mountain roads here near by Munich. What do you think about the VROD? At the moment I think about buying me one after the Sporty, although a lot of people say, this isn't a true Harley. If the Euro stands good against the Dollar and you can make a good price, may be, I buy and customize my next bike at your shop, what would need only one oversea transport. Do you know, wether there is a problem, driving a Harley, manufactured for International Countries (digit '5' at the 1st postion of the V.I.N.) within the US? I would like to use this opportunity for a little sightseing trip and even for visiting some members of this forum, if possible, before returning to Germany. Ok, only dreams at the moment, but I allways liked the dreams most, which became real.
Sorry, Goddes Om, for getting a little bit offtopic, but you mentioned the Harley first ;)

[shameless_heifer]

I think life gets in the way of actualy doing something about the issues we are concerned in.. you'd like to join an activist group.. but the boys scoccer practise is on thursday.. or annie's school recitial is on friday night.. and the car needs overhauld, the taxes are due..the mortage is due the kids collage fund.. grandma has alshimers..the kids need braces.. yes I think life gets in the way of living.. we all agree that something must be done.. but where to begin..

[Southernman]

Ups, shameless, sounds as if you have all the conditions to become quite a good blues musician. ;)
Why not begin by playing the blues?
Dont' Forget To Boogie!!!

[teepi]

ba ba da da dum...dum..dum...

I've got the...

"Soccer ball,overhaul,taxman at the door,
Granny don't know my name any more,
crooked teeth,
Wanna get involved,
But life got in the way...
BLUES"....



I know how ya feel, life has a habit of sneaking up on you, just when you got all your plans laid out.
Pesky life.;)

[shameless_heifer]

LMAOOO teepi.. ya got it goin' on..I'll get out the saxifone and u grab luvndrumn.. who will we get for vocals.. I can sing if anyone wants the sax.. I have a guitar and a harmonica..woohooo.. we got a band goin' on now.. maybe Goddess Om can play the flute.. Homesbudz on the pipes.. gate and blackie can sing backup.. southernman can play the fiddle..

[Southernman]

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/shelton_g/shelton.jpg
..........

[mowilde]

where the hell has everyone gone? there are more than enuf people in this country who want change. what's the problem?

[shameless_heifer]

we're old n tired.. we wanna rest.. between the kids and grandbabies who has energy to protest..we want our remotes and our easy chair.. we want to get lost in the in the morning air..just five minutes of quiet would be nice.. before I have to cook the beans and brown rice.. I'd like to stop the war in Iraq..and bring all the soliders back.. to feed the hungry and heal the sick.. to do all that would be quite a trick.. we'd have to be ten million and more.. to even get past the dubyas front door.. when we got in we'd give him a hit.. of what used to be call the good shit.. then he'd be smillin' just like us.. the smile that comes when ya got a buzz.

[teepi]

There used to be MASSES of people willing to stand up and take risks and try to bring about change in all kinds of things, from politics to peoples attitudes to accepting each others differences.
We started an experiment....and on a large scale some of it worked some didn't.
Civil rights came about but predjudice against skin colors is still here.
People became more aware of their environment, but big business (alot not all) ignores it.
Women are yo-yo'ed back and forth on the equal rights amendment and the abortion issue.
The chasm between upper and lower class is widening with middle class slowly disappearing.
But most of all GREED seems to have gotten such a foothold in peoles, lives.attitudes and actions.
More and more of the people I talk to have become so disillusioned with their lives and dreams...when it has become such a sruggle to just get by everyday, and now they have (like SHAMELESS says) the kids or the grandkids to worry about, and prices are going up and up and they worry if their going to lose their job, and they need just a tiny bit of help maybe from the Gov't because their job doesn't offer healthcare..but damn they make too much money to get just a little help, and they;re making 8.00 an hour but according to the powers that be "thats too much money",,,you can become disillusioned. You're ideals may take a backburner, while you're just trying to feed your family. You have to turn your back on 'this' to take care of 'that'....
And at the end of the day you are no more ahead than you were last year...
yeah, it can make you tired.

THEN we can talk about the "lemming attitude" that it seems more and more of the masses are adopting....
The Goverment needs to be run like a business, not an "old Boys Network" but the masses will stand in awe and rally around "their" candidate....who is telling them just what they want to hear, all the while KNOWING that once he gets elected...most of what he's running on will be thrown out the white house window..
The first time Clinton ran I worked for a newspaper in Norfolk Va. tremendous amount of military there and I lived with my girlfriend...
Clinton was all for Gays in the military..and remember "national Healthcare"...healthcare across the board, for EVERYONE???
Well as soon as he got in office you started hearing less and less about the healthcare,
hell, "it's big business Bill, can't fuck with the big boys"....
And while there is the "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the military, gays are still treated as if it has to be a big secret 'cause there's something wrong with them...actually I personally liked that gays wern't allowed..it gave my husband his way out back in 1969.

My point is....there comes a time when you have to accept that you can do what you can do, most of us older people gung ho'd it then, and now we want to bask in the light that we have made in our lives. I still write letters, and I still spout off, but mostly I think its to make myself feel better...lol
I am still a person of courage, I live my life how I want, alot of people think Larry and I are strange...but it takes courage to do your own thing and not be afraid to be different.

Sorry this is too long, but you all know how I get.
teepi

[mowilde]

thanks teepi. that was a good post. i see your point. i just have one question for everyone though.

if a youth movement would rise up in the us today, wouldn't the 30-50 year olds back em?

[Goddess Om]

if a youth movement would rise up in the us today, wouldn't the 30-50 year olds back em?[/QUOTE]I'm sure we would back them. Personally, like teepi, I do all I can, whether that is email activism, or turning up at rallies and marches etc. You guys who have not done that for a while should go just for old times sake. You have no idea the shivers that go up your spine when you're in there with a couple of thousand people and you actually "get it" that yes, maybe this CAN make a difference. That's the way it used to feel. We let the porpaganda put us off. We let the mortgage and the lack of time put us off, INSTEAD OF SIMPLIFYING AND PRIORITISING. I have been as guilty of that as anyone else, but if we stick to our principles we will MAKE time. An hour less watching TV, or whatever. We need to get inspired and motivated. Take the grandkids in and march with them...the last march I went to I nearly cried with joy to see grandparents, parents and little kids all side by side. It will teach the little ones about what is important in life and they will thank you for it later. Honestly!

[mimosa]

I am a big rally-er, it's a highlight of my life. Unfortunately during the last year I have had a grueling work schedule, but I still make time for protests etc of most kinds if I can possibly attend. I especially love picket lines (have done my share of them and reaped rewards from standing my/our ground as one of many unified workers), have marched in lots of labor rallies, and related political activities. If today's youth started an uprising I would be there in full force (exciting!). It's what we ALL need, apathy is such a dead end. I pass out buttons and stickers to my kids' college age friends (or any age), and try to teach them the path, whatever they perceive as an issue, then get out and be vocal about it. We need the "kids" to get active and carry on. Activism is important, just to be passionate about a cause. One voice can create many voices, and even one voice can be heard. Don't ever doubt it.

[Peace-Phoenix]

Bio Diesel sounds outstanding! Can one of us have a go at making it and using it?

I've seen people use it before. They also had a big exhibition of it at a festival I went to earlier this summer. It really is brilliant! When I need to get a car, I'll make sure I get a diesel engine, and start making bio-diesel for it....

[mowilde]

well, something is coming like it or not. there's a lot of electricity in the air. i've never seen this country so divided. i've never seen so many people come out against a "president".

all these movements are gonna start converging and pretty soon we'll all see the light.

and a little fyi on the biofuel. hemp produces more biomass per acre than any other crop. that's one of the top five reasons hemp is still so prohibited in the US.

[MEltingpOpsicle3]

"'When the moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars, then peace will guide the planet and love will steer the stars. This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius"...maybe it sounds dated, but it still gives me goose-bumps.
Most people had never even heard about astrology when that song came out. We knew we had to get it together and that the world and people needed to change for the better.
We made a peaceful revolution, where love and gentleness was the currency. But we had to fight for it in our homes, in our bedrooms and on the streets. We had to fight to grow our hair, to wear our jeans, to listen to our music, to refuse to fight, to march for peace. It didn't come from doing nothing, but from knowing that we had to take action. Having the courage to speak out, to get arrested, to tie ourselves to trees, to lay down in front of trucks. Having the audacity to see ourselves as The Beautiful People. Having the vision and the courage to make a new kind of statement and a new kind of life.
"We are this season's people.
There will be no other people this season.
If we blow it, it's blown".
(Stephen Gaskin from "This Season's People")
We came together to fight prejudice and fear with love and compassion. To conquer war with peace and hatred with love. To break free from the servitude of conservatism because we had a love of freedom and a soaring belief in ourselves. And I think we were a good crop of people that season, and we didn't blow it. The seeds that we planted are still sprouting and producing new life. The young hippies here are the living proof. But it's still up to all of us to walk our talk, to put our passionate philosophies to the test of life's experiences. To create a better life.

Where are the people of courage? Where are the ones who will stand up against all the lies, deceptions, propaganda, ignorance, confusion, apathy, inertia, oppression, racism, fascism and greed? Did we come this far just to leave it to someone else to fix? I think not...

Yeah, we've been around a long time and some of us are getting tired and maybe feeling a bit old. But while ever you can remember something, you can recreate it inside yourself. We can't let ourselves rust up like old boats. Turn the music up full blast. Dance in the living room. Be a child of the universe again. Love yourself up. Love others with the purest passion and dedication. Speak with courage and conviction. See a rock band. Fuck the daylights out of someone. Ride a Harley. Remember how freedom feels...and then fight for it.
that was so beautiful!!! ya know whats sad, i realized that this world is run by suvs, starbucks, and cell phones. haha amazing.

[shameless_heifer]

omg.. I drive an SUV.. but I am redeemed.. I have no cell phone nor do I go to startbucks..ha!!.. I'd had to drive 50 miles for starbucks and I drink tea anyway..

[SelfControl]

People have more in common with their grandparents than their parents, I've found. Can't quite imagine dragging my grandad out in his wheelchair to storm Whitehall.

[shameless_heifer]

ya never know.. self control.. he may enjoy it.. your granddad prolly has a lot to protest about.. as in seeing more BS for longer a time

[teepi]

if a youth movement would rise up in the us today, wouldn't the 30-50 year olds back em?I'm sure we would back them. Personally, like teepi, I do all I can, whether that is email activism, or turning up at rallies and marches etc. You guys who have not done that for a while should go just for old times sake. You have no idea the shivers that go up your spine when you're in there with a couple of thousand people and you actually "get it" that yes, maybe this CAN make a difference. That's the way it used to feel. We let the porpaganda put us off. We let the mortgage and the lack of time put us off, INSTEAD OF SIMPLIFYING AND PRIORITISING. I have been as guilty of that as anyone else, but if we stick to our principles we will MAKE time. An hour less watching TV, or whatever. We need to get inspired and motivated. Take the grandkids in and march with them...the last march I went to I nearly cried with joy to see grandparents, parents and little kids all side by side. It will teach the little ones about what is important in life and they will thank you for it later. Honestly!

Right On Sister!!
Thats exactly what its all about....learning and teaching, giving of yourself and accepting,.... there has to be balance.
If you don't have alot of time,... alot your time,...and do what you can...everything counts.
teepi

[shameless_heifer]

there are no marches or rallies around here.. in texas..cant travel far cuz of the livestock and my doggies.. I have writen letters to gov. officials and to the newspapper editorials.. I plan to vote.. but GOD help me I don't know who for.. Kerry is a french ho's puppet and dubya.. well he's dubya.. what to do.. I would like Robin Williams for Pres. he has a way of telling it like it is..plus he's funny.. how can we do whats best for the people when we have such a limited choice.. the worst of the two evils.. well I don't know..

[BlackGuardXIII]

"I'll always be a word man, better than a bird man". Mojo Risin

I have read many hopeful and positive posts on many boards in many groups regarding our future, and the chance we might not face a serious meltdown. Jim Morrison was a pretty smart guy, " I'm going to get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames." It has been a long time since we passed the point of no return....
Chief Seattle saw it coming back in 1844, know what he said?
"The earth is not their brother but their enemy, they conquer it and move on. They will devour everything and the earth will become a desert." ....1844!!!
I just pray that we don't turn into complete monsters when things get real nasty.
Bio diesel would be fine if we had a sustainable supply of biomass, which we do not, it has been consumed at a rate far beyond sustainability for at least 20 years, and that is being real generous. We can not even level it off, let alone reverse it. We consume more every year. More forests were cut down in the last 50 years than in the last 150 years before that. The ocean where I live is operating on a 'skeletal' ecosystem, 5% of what it was just 150 years ago, according to a three year study by our top university.

It is going to get nasty before it gets better, I give us a .000001% chance of turning it around of our own choice. It will turn around all right, but not at a time of our choosing..... Love may be the key to unite the planet and pull off the greatest miracle of all time, and I believe in miracles, but this one would surprise me, as the hour is fast approaching, and we are oblivious as babies to the signs that Chief Seattle saw ONE HUNDRED SIXTY years ago.

[Goddess Om]

there are no marches or rallies around here.. in texas..cant travel far cuz of the livestock and my doggies.. I have writen letters to gov. officials and to the newspapper editorials.. I plan to vote.. but GOD help me I don't know who for.. Kerry is a french ho's puppet and dubya.. well he's dubya.. what to do.. I would like Robin Williams for Pres. he has a way of telling it like it is..plus he's funny.. how can we do whats best for the people when we have such a limited choice.. the worst of the two evils.. well I don't know..Vote for the lesser evil I say! Or how about this - try to get Clinton back...or make him vice-president (or would that be president of vice?)...love the man...god, anyone who has oral sex in their office is my kinda guy. And anyone who has smoked a joint, inhale or no, has at least had a life.
Anyone but The Shrub!!! Where are pesticides when you really neeeed them?

[Goddess Om]

"Call out the Instigator, because there's something in the air...
We've got to get together sooner or later, because the revolution's here
And you know its right..."
It's getting pretty sad otherwise. I saw an article on people doing "random acts of kindness" to strangers in the street, and nobody trusted them enough to accept their help. We have been busy raising our kids and trying to do what little we can, but it has not been enough. The people we need to fight are the greedy - and greed and selfishness are enormous motivating forces. Money and power brokers run the politicians and we are the pawns in the game. They factor in our lives and our deaths. Don't get me wrong. I know how bad it is. I know how bad it can get. But for fuck's sake. If we don't do anything to change things now, someone may as well blow the planet apart. One action at a time. One day at a time. Every day do ONE thing to make the world a better place. Pass it on. Our Mother Earth needs every one of us on the job. How about we start to share our favorite internet activism sites. Even if all we do is sit at the computer and click, or email...it is something.

[teepi]

"What if they gave a war...and nobody came??"

"What if they had an election...and nobody voted??"

What to do???
What to do???

I for one wish "anyone could run for President", it's what generations of mothers have told their sons...and some even dared to tell their daughters...

If thats true , then isn't it kind of weird to you that Ralph Nader isn't going to be on the ticket in EVERY state???
Do you still believe that "the people" still run this country???

If good old Abe was the man today that he was then....could he possibly win???

"Things that make you go....HMMMM????"

[shameless_heifer]

I hope no one votes for me.. I don't want the job... and look at all the propraganda from my past that they could dig up.. I inhaled..a lot..I marched against the war..I asualted several law inforcement agents and I don't wear shoes (they could have a feild day over that one.

[teepi]

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Wavy endorsed "NOBODY" for President years ago.


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Nobody's Qualifications


Nobody is more than qualified to be President of the United States of America.
Nobody is just a nobody who really cares about our country and wants to do nothing about it. As Nobody says, "If we do nothing, nothing's gonna happen!" Nobody has been doing nothing for a very long time. Nobody wants to do nothing for you, the American people, to make your lives better. "Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what Nobody can do for you!"

Nobody was born here in America.
Nobody is a resident of the state of California, where he hangs out with movie stars and rock stars.

Nobody is over 35.
Don't worry about that.
Even though Nobody is over 30, Nobody is cool and he can be trusted!

Nobody is not a felon.
Nobody swears he didn't do anything wrong. He didn't do it... No one saw him do it. I believe Nobody. Don't you?



Nobody is honest.
.Nobody always tells the truth. Nobody doesn't make campaign promises he can't keep. He just doesn't make any promises. And because he never makes any promises, he never breaks any promises! Nobody never lies!



As your next president
I promise you, the American people, absolutely nothing... and I swear to you on a stack of King James Bibles, with God as my witness, I will deliver! I will get nothing done





I meant in my post that I wish it were the TRUTH that "anyone" could run...but its not the truth, as in what I said about Ralph.
Personally the only one I ever thought really had anything going for him was good old Jimmy.

teepi

[mowilde]

blackgaurd said:



Bio diesel would be fine if we had a sustainable supply of biomass, which we do not, it has been consumed at a rate far beyond sustainability for at least 20 years, and that is being real generous. We can not even level it off, let alone reverse it. We consume more every year. More forests were cut down in the last 50 years than in the last 150 years before that. The ocean where I live is operating on a 'skeletal' ecosystem, 5% of what it was just 150 years ago, according to a three year study by our top university.


mo says:
growing just 6% of the farmable us in hemp would completely free us from foriegn fuel. hemp is also a year round crop that can be grown in damn near every climate within the us

[mowilde]

there's some pretty good ideas on here. i was thinkin maybe the rock should be president.

finally. the rock has come back to washington dc. if ya smellelelelelelel. what the rock is cookin. or the rock that mo is cookin.

really tho. why doesn't everyone say screw it and vote nader? he's for ending the drug war.

[teepi]

Problem is like I said in previous posts...Nader won't be on the ticket in every state.

[mowilde]

has anyone ever heard of a write in candidate? perfectly legal and they HAVE to let you do it. you can go in there and write in any name you want.

why the hell don't we try to get a write in campaign going this year? still plenty of time. the election won't be decided until nov 3. and i predict that there'll still be a whole lot of fallout in that time.

i don't think bush can survive it.

[shameless_heifer]

When Bush wins this election ,he will be assinated..I dont think he deserves to be killed.. he's doing what he thinks is best for the country.. weather it be or not be right.. now don't flame me.. I didn't say I agreed with his methods..Bush will win..Kerry's a jerk and lost face with the people..he's not going to be able to pull it off.. everyone hates his fowl-mouth wife.. Most people in the US are Christains and will follow Bush.. just my observations not my choice..

[mowilde]

nope. i don't think bush will win. i know what the polls say, i can see how it looks, but i just don't think he's gonna win it. they still haven't dropped the bomb from the 2000 election yet. not only did bush not win but they got caught red handed committing voter fraud. greg palast from the bbc did an incredible story about the whole thing.

of course our own media, aside from fox which may as well change there name to the bush network, was scared to say anything for fear of getting some american military grade anthrax. think it was a coincidence that the media was getting that shit? that they killed that enquirer reporter? yeah.

and did anyone on the face of this earth benefit from 9/11 as much as the bush regime? no. even if bin laden was in on it at some level, he was no more than a patsy for a much nastier group of people. people who want to keep this world in constant turmoil.

no, i don't believe bush will win. i call myself an atheist, but i know the forces that are at work in this universe. shit like that does not go unrepaid.

[Goddess Om]

I'm in Australia and the little prick we have that calls himself a Prime Minister has screwed us over for the last nine years and now is trying to buy our votes ($6 BIllion worth!). The thing that worries me the most is that the small minded selfish and greedy little people will vote him back in and let him conveniently pull back on all his promises like he's done every election previously. There is a whole website devoted to the lies he has told (and got away with) over the years.
If Bush gets in, if Howard gets in here, shit...I hope there are a couple of bullets somewhere with their names on (er, not a very good pacifist after all)...
Have found a couple of alternative energy sites to do with hydrogen that sound very promising:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/13/green_fuel/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08/27/fuel_sunflower_oil/

How about we organise a mass hippy meditation for the election? Some way to put our 'mind power' to work for the best outcome for mankind? Any suggestions?...Omm..........

[shameless_heifer]

Om.. I have mentioned this before in another site.. it's possible..if we did do a colective chanelling we could change the frequency and redirect thought in to matter.. but would that be controling someones free will..that where I have a problem.. altering free will.. it could trun around on us if it's not done right..that's borderlining black majick.. but then again.. it would be for the good of all.. even dubya.. we can hold no annimosity towards anyone or anything..and it would have to be done with an open heart full of love..

[shameless_heifer]

thanks teepi. that was a good post. i see your point. i just have one question for everyone though.

if a youth movement would rise up in the us today, wouldn't the 30-50 year olds back em? .... I belive that if they (youth)had a plan for the future we would back them..but not to just go out and pillage and plunder in the name of freedom..that would be chaos.. we can't remove it till we have something better to replace it with that has a enough rock to stand on..went throught that during the Watts riots in the earily 60's..it's best stratigectly(sp) to have someone in the whitehouse already when we start..

[mowilde]

ok. let's say we could come up with votes to show a serious flaw with the two party system. this would essentially set us up for badly needed pressure that we could assert over the next four years. even, cosmic forces forbid, if bush does get back in.... if we could get a third party with ten million or more votes, we've forced them to come back from the extreme right that this country has surrendered to.

and fyi. you all may not realize your own power. all of your positive thoughts and "prayers" have been heard. enuf conciousness starts to bend reality. hurricanes four years after their heinous acts? coincidence? i don't think so for a sec.

and goddess, shameless, thanx for the commentary. you ladies are beautiful. we need some more on this one.

[Goddess Om]

Om.. I have mentioned this before in another site.. it's possible..if we did do a colective chanelling we could change the frequency and redirect thought in to matter.. but would that be controling someones free will..that where I have a problem.. altering free will.. it could trun around on us if it's not done right..that's borderlining black majick.. but then again.. it would be for the good of all.. even dubya.. we can hold no annimosity towards anyone or anything..and it would have to be done with an open heart full of love..I know just where you're coming from. We can't harm or change free will, without wearing the consequences.
But sometimes I do wonder...if you saw someone about to drown a baby, and you rushed in to stop them, you are interfering with their free will. If you were sitting in the plane next to the guy who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, would you have stopped him (interfering with his free will)? I have to say yes, I would on both counts. Sometimes you have to take actions to protect and defend.
Anyway...as long as we don't decide that we know for sure what is the highest good for humanity before we even start, we should be able to come up with a collective channeling that will be effective. How long do we have to come up with something?

[Goddess Om]

[QUOTE=mowilde]and did anyone on the face of this earth benefit from 9/11 as much as the bush regime? no. even if bin laden was in on it at some level, he was no more than a patsy for a much nastier group of people. people who want to keep this world in constant turmoil.

How right you are about this. They knew it was planned and didn't they warn certain people to stay away, or not to fly on that day? Its a very nasty business indeed. They wanted an excuse for a war. Every war has been orchestrated by the power brokers who run this planet, and has always been about making more money than any of us could possibly dream of. They wanted an enemy, and it didn't matter to them if it was Osama or Saddam....hell, any "foreigner" would have done the trick. Anyone who looked, dressed or spoke differently. The horrifying part of all this is that it doesn't seem to matter how many experts stand up against them and speak the truth, or how many times they are caught out in their lies...they just get up the next day, knowing that they control the media, knowing that they answer to no one...and they carry on with their propaganda as if nothing ever happened. And people let them!
It kind of reminds me of the Spanish Inquisition...a bunch of torturers had the intolerable audacity to call themselves "godly" and their victims "evil". Is it any different today?

[shameless_heifer]

it's revelations comming to an end.. all of revelation has come to pass.. the Beast (dubya)riding the Whore's (the church) back..the floods, disease and famine.. the pestalence.. the chairot from the sky..the great war in the middle east.. it has all come to pass.. now what.. the end of the world..Star Wars..the search for a new planet to occupy.. the return of the Anuannki.. that's all that's left is the return of the king..I think it's out of our hands and a higher power will kick in..if revelations are correct that is.. I know this may sound strange or maybe above some heads.. but the key to understanding is knowledge and knowledge comes from intense study of the subject in question..

[mowilde]

hef said: it's revelations comming to an end.. all of revelation has come to pass..

well, don't fret too much. there is also good news in revelation. three times in rev the tree of life is mentioned. it says that man regains the tree of life. and if you read it all right, we have already been thru much of the death and destruction. we're coming to the end. the tree will soon be ours once again.

now. i need you guys to listen to me. you don't know me and no you don't owe me a damn thing. but i'm here to tell you. we have the time to do something incredible before 04 is up. stick with me and help me out whereever you can. i'm working on something big.

[mowilde]

look. we need a solidarity movement in this county. is there anything everyone can agree on?

[shameless_heifer]

well I for one does not want her bare dareaire' plastered on the front page on my towns paper.. OMG.. I would vaporize into thin air...lmaoooo.. aint getting nakie

[mowilde]

cmon. i think nudity could be the key to the whole problem. there just ain't enuf of it goin on anymore. publically anyway.

[mowilde]

seriously then. whirled peas?

[Goddess Om]

[QUOTE=shameless_heifer]it's revelations comming to an end..

I think it is all leading up to the Golden Age or Earth Transition in 2012. It began with the Venus transit a few months back and ends with the Venus transit in 2012. Not the end of the earth as such, but the earth as we know it...will be vibrating on a higher scale (hopefully). Maybe the good get better and the bad get worse...not sure how that event will interact with free will, but it must somehow.
By the way, not too keen on baring the butt either...lol

[mowilde]

and if you were right? why not get started now?

[Goddess Om]

and if you were right? why not get started now?The point of power is always in the present moment. I AM started.
My Golden Age is getting off to a bit of a rocky start, but it is rolling. The bad guys own the media. The media tell us what 'we think' and what we 'need to know' (ha). If people are not out on the streets doing the peaceful, noble and helpful things to bring about peace, none of the other sheep are going to notice that there is another way to live. That we can wage peace. That we can fight injustice.

So now it comes down again to making headlines. Ok, shit, we need to get seen, we need to get arrested, we need to protest nude (god help us), we need to do anything that gets us noticed....(the media will not be able to resist ridiculing us!)

We need to tie ourselves to trees, to lie down in front of tractors, to protest outside of meetings where decisions are being made that affect all of our lives. We need to wear slogan t-shirts; we need to have posters and bumper stickers; we need to communicate in whatever ways we are individually good at, we need to look different, we need to speak from the heart and live from the heart. To be fearless, loving, adventurous, and free. These things we can model for the rest of society. We need to inspire people and educate them. I am trying my best every day. Each little ripple spreading out will eventually make a bit of a splash upon the shore.

[shameless_heifer]

we also need to get our minds and bodies in shape for the war for peace..it's gonna take stamina.. I know about being an OLD hippie and the bones don't like to bend that way no more.. I know I'm not in the best shape as I could/should be in but I try to stay atcive.. but just staying active is not gonna cut it.. we need strenght in our bodies to support what our brains are telling them to do.. we need sharp and clear thinking and leaders to organize..we need mass exposure.. we nneed pamplets and flyers posted next to all the garage sale signs so people will see them.. in laundry rooms in school faculty rooms.. in collage lunch rooms.. everywhere.. we can organize mass sit-ins at the same time all over the nation.. we can have rock stations play a particular song(s) at a certain time as we all sit in.. I have more ideas.. I have staged protests in the 60's and free concerts in the panhandle park SF and worked in getting city councilman elected.. was a long time ago but I still have the knowledge inside me..

[Goddess Om]

Yeah Shameless...you are so right! That stuff is exactly what we need.
And the War For Peace needs a concert. We need a new Woodstock. Maybe some of us know some artists out there who would contribute or organise such a thing? We need a focus for all the posters etc. Organisation is needed. Local groups are a start. Protest actions need to be discussed and planned. If only us oldies could get the ball rolling, I know all the young ones here would come out by the hundreds. They are just waiting for it.
I love you Shameless...big hugs to you my sister. Yes, we need to get ourselves fitter and healthier, our minds sharper and clearer. But we can start by doing the mental work and the planning and the young ones can carry the banners. We are getting to the age where we want to make sure we have done all that we can do. If we're gonna go down, let's go down in a blaze of glory!