suggestions for pain relief

[nesta]

i'll make this briefer than my post in the medical marijuana forum.

do any of you who feel very experienced in terms of different, specific, and KNOWN strains of herb know of any strains renowned for being particularly effective for pain relief? specifically joint pain, pain in the hips and knees making it painful to walk.

it would be a major plus if it were conducive to sleeping (not a rushing, soaring high) but not a particularl sedative strain either. i would like to be able to sleep, but not be put to sleep if possible. i would want to grow a seperate strain to help deal with insomnia if possible.

of course this is all for down the road. i already have the joint pain and insomnia and self-medicate with black market herb already, as well as enjoying its recreational value. but getting it from a dealer, its inconsistant and i rarely know what i'm getting beyond that i'm getting weed, so its hard to seek out pot effective for what i want it to do. i have to take what i can find, which leaves little selection.

but hopefully someday i can grow my own for medical use and not worry about my legal status. failing that, i can at least provide myself with good medicine more secretly.

anyway, if you know good strains to use specifically for pain relief, i'd like to hear your input.

[Eskimo101]

i wish i knew for about 3 years ive had bad pain in my knees and left wrist constantly...i just do the best i can to deal with it

[jo_k_er_man]

sorry can't help ya there.. that's where the beloved opiates come into play

[nesta]

yeah, same here for the most part, eskimo

anyway i forgot to mention i understand the concepts of genotype and phenotype, and understand one strain will likely offer a couple varieties of pot, but i'm talking about in terms of generalizations -or- the desired phenotype.

and man i love opiates, but i couldnt take those long-term. i like them too much, i'd get way too addicted way too easily.

[philywilly]

icmag.com has a great section for strain reviews.. and seeing as most the reviews are from personal harvests, you most likely won't be reading much bs.

[Stella_Drives]

I dont know about marijuana strains that are specific for joint pain, sorry I can't answer your original question. But taking calcium and magnesium together works wonders for the joints. I have bad feet from doing point ballet for years, which in turn gives me bad knees and hips, and calcium and magnesium makes me sooo much less achey and cracky. You can find combination supplements at any place you can get vitamins. It also acts as a natural muscle relaxer and anti-anxiety, so that could possibly aid in insomnia? Sorry I couldn't be more help, good luck on your search!

[weedwhacker]

im pretty sure any strain that is highly indica would work, kush strains come to mind. purple kush maybe.

[nesta]

thx, and good points folks.

and for the other person suffering joint pain, i found a lead on another forum doing some google searching... http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-2871.html

the long and hopefully accurate post by a member of the forum named soul

This is a collection of strains and info that I have collected from a compassionate community I am involved with, I hope some of the info helps people who are looking for answers as per strains

ADD: Focus: Catalyst, Billiejack, Jack Herer, C99, Thai, Haze, Elvis, Dogsh!t.....

Insomnia, Social Awareness, Emotional Stability: Black Domina, Butterscotch Hawiian, Trainwreck, Afgani, William's Wonder, Blueberry.

MS Neuropathic Pain / Urinary Incontinence: Trainwreck, Super Silver Haze), NYCD and Sour Diesel. For severe pain, concentrates may be required.

Digestive Disorders: Blueberry, Blackberry, Black Domina.

Nausea and Diarrhea and Cramping (including Menstrual Cramps): Blueberry.

Social Anxiety: Romulan, NL#5, Hindu Kush, OG Kush, Bubba Kush.

Stress: Heavenly Man.

Sleep and General Relaxation:Sonoma Coma, Lifesaver, Real Matanuska Thunder Fu*K, ***, Legends Ultimate Indica, Sensi Star.

Alert, Cerebral: AK-47, Dankouver, Cambodian X Orange Peako.

Anti Depress & Anxiety, Sleep: Blue Moonshine, Jack Herrer, M-39, Herijuana.

Chronic Pain: Romulan, Shiskeberry.

Appetite Stimulant/Spasms: TY's Northernberry x Reefermans herijuana.

Joint and Muscle Pain: Legends Ultimate Indica, UBC Chemo x Grapefruit.



Oh, please feel free to add to this list.

Strains that make you hungry and help stomach problems, Aids, chemo, ect.
= Santa Maria, Blueberry, B.C. Chemo, ect....= Serious Seeds, Dutch Passion.
Strains that help with body pain. Back pains, muscle spasms, ect = Herijuana, Sensi Star, ect. = Paradise Seeds, Meduser.ca, ect

Insomnia, Social Awareness, Emotional Stability: Black Domina, Butterscotch Hawiian, Trainwreck, Afgani, William's Wonder, Blueberry.

MS Neuropathic Pain / Urinary Incontinence: Trainwreck, Super Silver Haze), NYCD and Sour Diesel. For severe pain, concentrates may be required.

Digestive Disorders: Blueberry, Blackberry, Black Domina.

Nausea and Diarrhea and Cramping (including Menstrual Cramps): Blueberry.

Social Anxiety: Romulan, NL#5, Hindu Kush, OG Kush, Bubba Kush.

Stress: Heavenly Man.

Sleep and General Relaxation:Sonoma Coma, Lifesaver, Real Matanuska Thunder Fu*K, ***, Legends Ultimate Indica, Sensi Star.

Alert, Cerebral: AK-47, Dankouver, Cambodian X Orange Peako.

Anti Depress & Anxiety, Sleep: Blue Moonshine, Jack Herrer, M-39, Herijuana.

Chronic Pain: Romulan, Shiskeberry.

Appetite Stimulant/Spasms: TY's Northernberry x Reefermans herijuana.

Joint and Muscle Pain: Legends Ultimate Indica, UBC Chemo x Grapefruit.

Thanks to TY members for their help in compiling this list.

Oh, please feel free to add to this list.
or the record:
Billiejack and what i have been calling willy jack from woodie are the same thing.

Chronic pain: Blueberry, reeferman's hashplant

appetite stimulant: Catalyst

Joint and muscle pain: Blueberry
White Russian-ak-47 x white widow-excellent for chronic pain and insomnia-M39 for chronic pain-Peace BigD
I use Original Blueberry for M.S. Chronic pain, muscle spasms and muscle cramping. I also use California Orange, believe it or not, for spinal pain relief. Does anyone know if the blueberry/Lowryder is as good, or close to Original Blueberry. I would like to grow some if it is.
i have tried blueberry of a couple sorts including what i do believe was actually dj short bb and it was a 9 or higher outa 10 for pain relief.
Catalyst: is good for Anxiety and Depression. I don’t really get the munchies from her though.
Purple Kush: helps my stomach and bleeds off my stress/anxiety

Slow train: ruins me for a good long while and my back pain just melts away
Romulan-munchies, sleep inducer
AK-47-pain relief, day dreaming, anti stress

Romulan: Pleasant slight mental high. *Great painkiller*/minor muscle relaxant. Aided sleep. My heart doesn't race at all on this stuff! Apparently, it has a lower THC content than many, and this may account for it's mellowness.

Blueberry Kush: Medium pain control. Medium body high, STRONG sleep inducer. Knocked me out....twice.

Peak 19- Too strong! 1/4 of a puff made my heart race for about a half hour, and made me feel like I was going to be ill. I hate this crap!!

Mango+Durban cross: Decent painkiller, euphoric feeling, 'couch-lock'. Slightly 'stupid' high, and munchie inducer. Makes my fingers feel numb occasionally.

Trainwreck: Anti-anxiety. Muddled my thoughts a bit but not too much to be disturbing. Good painkiller. Slight heart rate elevation. Extreme munchie inducer.
We used Northern Lights I personally think Romulan works WONDERS for pain of all kinds.....although perhaps with a migraine you might try something really strong- like Snow White or White Widow......apparently, many people say you should go for Sativas for migraines (online source)....hmmm...in that case, I suppose you might wish to try White Widow first and then certain strains of Northern Lights.....I KNOW that one worked.
Please- write back and let us know how it goes- I'm going to mix some AK-47 and Romulan and enjoy and night bowl!
The Skunk#1 that was grown on the PainPal system is VERY relaxing for me, it numbs my chronic back pain and is a real easy on the throat smoke. Two reasonable sized bowls and I'm off to "la la land"
Nevles Haze is really good for psychiactric conditions, mood, and anxiety. I love Sensi-Star for it's ability to control muscle pain and nausea. It also has a wonderful aroma and taste to boot.
GDP = Purple Erkle x Big Bud

AKA "Grand Daddy Purple" AKA "RIP Grandaddy Purple" AKA "Ken's Grandaddy Purple".
RLS = SSH 1-2 hours before sleep in an edible has been effective for many folks.
the Amsterdam Bubble Funk has a way of getting rid of my HEADACHES when the pinched nerve in my neck acts up with those top of the cranium gems of PAIN. Without a doubt, better than any asprin ever taken, and with immediate relief. As a general pain reliever, this strain does little for my FIBROMYALGIA. For that pain, i rely on Bubble Gum, or Blueberry to get me the relief i need, for the most part.
COmidnightrider46...just wondering what kind of fibro pain are you talking about
this is msa,

Symptoms vary and depend on the particular form of MSA. Striatonigral degeneration is practically indistinguishable from Parkinson's disease; OPCA is characterized by progressive ataxia (an inability to coordinate voluntary muscular movements) of the gait and arms and dysarthria (difficulty articulating words); and Shy-Drager syndrome is characterized by Parkinsonism and a much more pronounced failure of the autonomic nervous system.

Striatonigral degeneration
Striatonigral degeneration is similar to Parkinson's disease, except tremor is much less common, and cerebellar ataxia (failure of muscle coordination) often develops over time. Pathologically, striatonigral degeneration is defined by abnormalities in the putamen and substantia nigra that are more extensive and localized than what is typical of Parkinson's disease. Other portions of the basal ganglia (the part of the brain that is responsible for organization of motor movement) are also involved. Striatonigral degeneration is often indistinguishable from Parkinson's, except that it does not respond to medications used to treat Parkinson's. MRI brain images may reveal severe degeneration of the affected structures and may provide additional diagnostic information.

Olivopontocerebellar atrophy (OPCA)
OPCAs are a group of disorders characterized by cerebellar dysfunction manifested by ataxia (imbalance and incoordination) and kinetic tremor. Kinetic tremor is rhythmic, involuntary muscular contraction that occurs during purposeful movement, such as touching your finger to your nose. Some researchers suspect that OPCA may have a genetic basis, but the clinical symptoms can vary considerably even among relatives.

The term "olivopontocerebellar" implies involvement and degeneration of the olives (structures in the medulla, part of the brainstem), the pons (part of the brainstem), and the cerebellum (area of the brain that controls coordination and balance). Symptoms may include the following:
Ataxia
Chorea (irregular, spasmodic, involuntary movement of the limbs or facial muscles)
Degeneration of the retina
Dysarthria (difficulty articulating words)
Dystonia (abnormal muscle tension)
Kinetic tremor
Neuropathy
Spasticity (state of increased muscular tone with exaggerated tendon reflexes)
Weakness
Shy Drager Syndrome
Shy Drager syndrome, also known as "multiple system atrophy with autonomic failure," is similar to Parkinson's disease, but impairment of the autonomic nervous system is much more severe. The autonomic nervous system controls involuntary bodily functions such as blood pressure; gastrointestinal motility; and bladder, bowel, and sexual function.

The most prominent symptom of Shy Drager syndrome is what is known as "postural hypotension." Upon standing or sitting, patients' blood pressure drops to such a low level that they get dizzy, lightheaded, or momentarily blackout.
soul

[nesta]

bah, i wish i was allowed to just grow my own and find out for sure

i want to not hurt so much :( i'm gonna look into those supplements, too, though.

[Stella_Drives]

What's the joint pain from, if ya don't mind me asking?

[nesta]

just life in general.

no cause that i can see or understand. just pain comes and goes. i've never been overly athletic or anything, really.

its just sometimes i get really bad pain in my hips and my knees, and sometimes elsewhere but mostly them, and lately its been getting worse and worse :(

i've long been able to crack all my knuckles, my elbows, my ankles, toes, and sometimes back, but the other day my KNEES popped for the first time in my life. it wasn't comfy.

i dont know if theres any cause to any of this or not. but it feels like the bones were all just put together wrong or something :(

[Burnt]

I do not no of any strains of marijuana that may help with joint pain but there is a plant called Horsetail that has been known too relieve joint pain. There are many other herbs that also can help, but I lost all of my reference material.

[nesta]

used to go backpacking, camping and such a lot though. canoeing and kayaking sometimes, too. i walk as virtually my only mode of transportation now. its been a few weeks since i've been in a car, and way longer since i've been in a bus. i think this may be contributing to the increase in pain, but i like the exercise and fresh air. i've been wanting a bike, but dont really have money for one and it will only help in nice weather anyhow.

thats as close as i can think to a cause maybe

[Burnt]

Also if you have been having hip pain I recomend you go to a doctor and get a bone density test.

[Stella_Drives]

If there's no injury to go along with the pain, glucosamine is your best bet. It acts as a joint lubricant and makes them more smooth and "well oiled" if you will. You can get this drink called "joint juice" that'll make you feel better after a week or so of drinking it. You can find it in most health stores I'm sure. It will fix you up, but won't take the pain away immediately. Again, sorry I don't have the answer to your original question and took off on a supplemental tangent haha.

[Stella_Drives]

Alssssoo, a lot of those pains can come from your feet being off balance. Make sure you wear great supporting shoes or atleast invest it some quality insoles.

[nesta]

i'm currently wearing my chuck taylors.

i have a super comfy pair of børn shoes with wonderful support, but i accidentally caught the toe on the edge of the sidewalk and scuffed them pretty bad when they were really new! i'm really, really pissed. i need to get some brown shoe polish or something, cause they were really comfy.

but the problem with supplements and special health foods at this particular point is my inability to afford them. i am in school and have very little income, next to nothing. nowadays its a burden enough to get a bag of grass....i can't afford to buy a bunch of herbal supplements and various remedies and such for myself. course the strain info i want is for later use anyway, so it will be good to know about these things later as well.

[Stella_Drives]

Oh my, you can't get much worse for your feet than chuck taylors. I miss wearing them but they destroyed my feet that much more.

And i feel ya on the limited income, I'm currently out of calcium and magnesium because the bottles I buy are 50 dollars for 200 pills (not TOO bad) and I can't afford it right now and my whole body is cracking and rattling and crunching. At least it shows me it was working!