Simple enough question...

[jo_k_er_man]

I just snorted 4mg of dilly.. would taking 10mg or so of hydro be pointless at this point? should i have prepped it the other way around? am i safe mixing 10mg of hydro with the 4mg?

[kil0]

yea you'd be safe. But would it be pointless? maybe. I would eat more than 10mg of hydro, because 4mg is dilly isnt all that.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Yeah, take the Hydro, it might, if you are lucky boost the dilly, but it's so crazy that you feel 4mg of dilly, so I would think you could def. get a boost from the hydro if you have that low of a tolerance.

[kil0]

I dont think joker has a low tolerance though. I doubt he feels much from 4mg.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

I think he was the person in the other thread that said he actually feels a pleasant buzz from snorting dilly's...lucky bastard!

Bioavailability for Hydromorphone:

Bioavailability Oral: 30–35%, Intranasal: 52–58%[

That is why people don't seem to get good results...I mean even though he is snorting it and it does have quite a better bioavailability over taking them orally, that still leaves him with getting between 2 and 3mg into his system, it's just awesome that he can feel that, shit I know I wish I could, lol.

[kil0]

Us Normal people would probably feel something from dilaudid. you with your unhuman tolerance probably wouldnt lol, regardless of method of ingestion.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Haha, mannnnn I know, it sucks!

[jo_k_er_man]

i keep a relatively low tolerance to certain pills.. i can take 10mg of hydro and feel alright... 4mg of dilly had me grinnin for awhile.. no nodding though..

[Feelings Of U4ia]

i keep a relatively low tolerance to certain pills.. i can take 10mg of hydro and feel alright... 4mg of dilly had me grinnin for awhile.. no nodding though..

10mg of hydrocodone actually has an effect on you? That is simply insane. When I first started doing opiates, even the FIRST time, it took me at LEAST 15-20mg of hydrocodone to feel anything.

You really are lucky, I have never heard of someone who uses opiates having that low of a tolerance. Shit, like I said, it's hard to find someone who DOESN'T use opiates that can get right off of 10mg of Hydrocodone.

[Euphorial]

I actually can't even believe that... meaning I just don't believe that. I won't even feel much from 10mg of oxy.

However, if by "alright" you mean "I wish I had 30mg more" then never mind:D

[RELAYER]

I've taken opiates for 8 years, and for a year I was at least 120mg's Oxy per day. That was during the weekdays, dont even ask about Friday night when I cashed my paycheck.
To this day 10mg's of Oxycodone makes me feel good.
I've gone on several hundred psychedelic trips, and 2 hits on blotter has me tripping harder than people on 4 of the same batch.
I used to drink bottles of Irish whiskey as a teenager and right before I turned 20, and can still drink like a fish and walk away fine most of the time, yet drinking one domestic beer gives me a buzz.
If I take 3 hits of mid grade pot, Im high as a kite. If I take 1 E pill, I feel like Im dying and cant even walk because of how high it makes me.
The reality is that everyone reacts differently to every chemical, and some people are hyper sensitive to any alteration in consciousness. I can hold my own with very high doses of opiates in any form and feel great like the rest of the daily abusers, yet if I dont take any opiates for 2 weeks 10mg's of Oxycodone or Hydrocodone gives me enough of a pleasant sensation that it doesnt equal a waste of time to me. Not that I wouldnt take more if I didnt have it, but if someone tosses me 2 5mg's or a 10, I can be satisfied for a good 2 hours.
God Bless +

[Euphorial]

That post actually brought me back to reality. I started getting carried away with my taste for opiates the same way potheads do with weed.

Yea, I can take 1 bong rip and walk away high as fuck still. Excuse my moment of ignorance, that wasn't much like myself. :)

[RELAYER]

That post actually brought me back to reality. I started getting carried away with my taste for opiates the same way potheads do with weed.

Yea, I can take 1 bong rip and walk away high as fuck still. Excuse my moment of ignorance, that wasn't much like myself. :)

Shit dont stress it friend. This place is all about learning and sharing :)
Its like a kindergarten for the other dimensions

[neodude1212]

kindergarten was the best year, man.

[kil0]

Lol neodude.

But seriously.. I still find it hard to believe.. 10mg of hydro wont even alleviate a headache. And 10mg of oxy is just a waste, I rather save it until I got over 40mg.

Im with U4ia, my very first opiate experience, I did 20mg of hydro. That had me high as hell. because 15 barely did anything, I had four 5mg pills, I popped 3 off bat, and like 30 minutes later I popped the last one cuz I barely felt anything. But like 20 minutes after taking the last one, I was high as kite, and never felt so good in my life.

Damn... Its sad... I fuckin hate tolerance. I could get all the Vicodin 5s I want for free, but I've popped 8 of them (40mg) and felt jack. Because my tolerance is like at 80mg of oxy already, and IMO 20mg of oxy equals about 30mg of hydro, maybe 35. Man, I WISH I could still get high on 20mg of hydro, my life would be perfect lol..

[jo_k_er_man]

I actually can't even believe that... meaning I just don't believe that. I won't even feel much from 10mg of oxy.

However, if by "alright" you mean "I wish I had 30mg more" then never mind:D

alright is no where close to nodding... shit this waiter i worked with would by single 5s off me he said he'd take one and feel good:confused:

[Feelings Of U4ia]

alright is no where close to nodding... shit this waiter i worked with would by single 5s off me he said he'd take one and feel good:confused:

Yeah, lucky bastards. My mother used to be able to take 10mg of oxycodone and was so high she was almost nauseous. Now after a year of pain management, that has morphed itself into 150mg of Oxycodone a day, just for pain.

[RELAYER]

Yeah, lucky bastards. My mother used to be able to take 10mg of oxycodone and was so high she was almost nauseous. Now after a year of pain management, that has morphed itself into 150mg of Oxycodone a day, just for pain.

the...............wheels on the bus go round and round!

[Feelings Of U4ia]

the...............wheels on the bus go round and round!

They sure the fuck do.

[RELAYER]

When we were on our way to my uncles funeral (he was on fentanyl, oxycodone, and drank vodka for years) my mom told me once how she got percocet from some dentistry work, and she took and one and got sick, so she flushed the rest down the toilet. She was telling me because my uncle had found out and came over and asked for some lol. I was like damn, if only I could go back and time and snatch them up!

[MissMorphine]

You want to talk about tolerance?
For a month I was taking a quarter piece of 100mcg/hr mylan fentanyl patches bucally and sublingually daily, after that month my habit went to a half patch.

Now its been a month and a half, I have only a quarter piece of fentanyl, and unlimited morphine to maintain.
I snorted 50mg of a 100mg ms contin, and parachuted the rest of it. Didn't feel shit!

I took a 7.5/500 hydro bout an hour ago, feel nothing, but my cough is most certainly gone and my aches are relieved. That used to get me nodding when I was about 13. haha.

How the hell do you tame the tolerance monster?

[Feelings Of U4ia]

You want to talk about tolerance?
For a month I was taking a quarter piece of 100mcg/hr mylan fentanyl patches bucally and sublingually daily, after that month my habit went to a half patch.

Now its been a month and a half, I have only a quarter piece of fentanyl, and unlimited morphine to maintain.
I snorted 50mg of a 100mg ms contin, and parachuted the rest of it. Didn't feel shit!

I took a 7.5/500 hydro bout an hour ago, feel nothing, but my cough is most certainly gone and my aches are relieved. That used to get me nodding when I was about 13. haha.

How the hell do you tame the tolerance monster?



Most people wouldn't feel shit...Morphine has the worst bioavailability I have ever seen in opiates...on the Wiki it's listed as less then 25% orally.

As far as getting your tolerance down...the only thing you can do is STOP. Stop for even a few weeks, and you will notice that it has gone down a little bit. Other then that, you can try using potentiators, but I haven't had any luck with those either. Search google if you are unfamiliar with them.

[MissMorphine]

Most people wouldn't feel shit...Morphine has the worst bioavailability I have ever seen in opiates...on the Wiki it's listed as less then 25% orally.

As far as getting your tolerance down...the only thing you can do is STOP. Stop for even a few weeks, and you will notice that it has gone down a little bit. Other then that, you can try using potentiators, but I haven't had any luck with those either. Search google if you are unfamiliar with them.

Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I've parachuted a 100mg pill of morphine about 20 min ago, (would snort, but my nose is all stuffy :P) and drank 30mg of dxm (cough syrup) and ate 50mg of dph. I could always try grapefruit juice on top of that.

-as i wrote this.. some euphoria has come over me actually... mmm sweet morphine. after this it's break time! a taper so i dont hit withdrawal so badly though.