Poppy Pod Tea

[kil0]

Who's tried this? Is it any good? Does it work good for someone with an oxycodone tolerance,I need about 80mg or so per sitting to feel great.

And from what I've read on the internet, making the actual tea is pretty simple, is this a good procedure?


Step one: Take your supply of poppy pods and grind them in a coffee grinder to create as fine a powder as possible. Mix the powder into a homogenous product, so as to account for variations in potency between one pod and the next.
Step two: Measure out five pods worth of powder. If you are using more "potent" strains such as hens and chickens, start with perhaps two. If you have a high tolerance to opiates, you can try more. But always remember to start SMALL. It's always better to waste some pods than to overdose!
Step three: Boil two cups of water on the stove. Once the water is boiling, remove from the heat and add your powdered pods. Do not boil the pods!
Step four: Stir occasionally, allowing around 10-15 minutes for the tea to "steep", and cool.
Step Five: Pour the contents through a strainer or cheesecloth into a mug. Save the used pulp from the strainer, as it can be used again, although at about half the strength. Only use one cup of water when doing a re-brew.
Step Six: Drink the mixture, including any powdery residue left at the bottom of your mug, as it will also contain alkaloids. Waste not want not!
Many people simply cannot stand the taste of the tea. It can be quite horrible in fact, especially if you can't handle bitter flavours well. Some people like to add some honey or sugar to their tea to mask the flavour. Others say that mixing the tea with Orange Juice can totally mask the flavour, without reducing the effects. In the end, it's up to you.
Remember, as with any opiate based substance, it is possible to both overdose and become addicted to poppy tea. So use caution! It's always better not to start at all, but if you must, it is imperative that you treat these powerful substances with the respect that they deserve.

[stalk]

Sometimes I eat poppies raw, or grind them up into a tea, bit of lemon juice, not boiling water, steep it and filter


or run it thru a coffee maker like coffee 3 times


it's great for a week but then you can't shit

lots of people get addicted.....

i love poppies...

be careful. moderation.

[xexon]

Not all poppies produce opium. You have to have the right kind.

Papaver Somniferum


x

[kil0]

yeah I know. Is this a good price, 12 poppies (papaver somniferum) for 15 bucks?

[stalk]

if they are big poppies, that's a good price.

I have no opiate tolerance, and only work with poppies once every few months, so I only need 2 pods to nod out.

My friend sometimes uses 6-10 because he's on suboxone...poor guy.

ebay's the way to go, IMO
you can get deals there.

[Euphorial]

Kil0, since I'd like to try this may I ask where you're buying from?

I'd love to hear a comparison to oxy, meaning how much about 2 pods feel like.

Are you also considering turning some of the tea into opm? That would be fun, even though it takes like 2 days to dry out.

[kil0]

Kil0, since I'd like to try this may I ask where you're buying from?

I'd love to hear a comparison to oxy, meaning how much about 2 pods feel like.

Are you also considering turning some of the tea into opm? That would be fun, even though it takes like 2 days to dry out.

Im gonna buy from ebay. I'll let you guys know how it compares to other opiates I've done. and yeah, I wanted to make some tea, and dry some. How exactly do you do this? just leaving outside to dry?

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Be careful, poppies have some of the WORST wd's, even compared to opiates like Oxycodone...I have heard they are even worse.

[Euphorial]

Im gonna buy from ebay. I'll let you guys know how it compares to other opiates I've done. and yeah, I wanted to make some tea, and dry some. How exactly do you do this? just leaving outside to dry?

:D ---> http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=287157&highlight=opium&f=120

Have fun.

[RELAYER]

Few things I have to say about your instructions.
With step 3, you dont want to boil your water, you want to removie it from direct heat moments before it actually starts boiling completley.
With step 4, you want to add very liberal amounts of an acidic juice, lemon juice or grapefruit, whatever is fine, as you let it sit because the acid will cause the alkaloids to seperate into the liquid, and you want to let it sit like that for at LEAST 30 minutes.
Done this many, many times. Never used less than 6 large pods per gallon, preferably 10.
God Bless +

[RELAYER]

Here is a thread from like 2 years ago, with one of the recipes I found to make the taste actually pleasant.
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=163034&f=120

And here's a post I took from the old forums, this is from an old friend who I used to make tea with all the time, I wonder whatever happened to him? Definitley knew his stuff though :)

usually i try and get about 20 meduim sized pods 6-8 inches per gallon of tea. I'll make a gallon of tea by mixing to half gallon batches of different strengths. First boil a little more than half a gallon of water (more becuase some water will evaporate during the process) while your doing that take your pods cut them in half carefully emptying out all the seeds. (they do contain smalll amounts of opium but when ingested will give you some wicked cramps) next take about 12 pods and put then in a food processor, bar blender, or anything that you can use to crush or grind them up as small as possible. i like to make them into a powder using my bar blender. the more surface area the better. when your water begins to boil begin to steep some tea bags in there any kind of tea will do, i prefer green tea. next shut off the heat to your water . take your crushed pods put them in a large bowl. carefully pour your hot tea into the bowl with the poppy pod powder. next you need an acid to help draw out the opium. usually i use lemon juice. but ive used grapefruit juice, lime juice, orange juice and so on. i usually add about a half a cup of lemon juice to be sure, some of the other juices are less acidic and i may add more. give the mixture a good stir and go smoke a joint while you wait one hour then strain thro a fine strainer, you also can use cheese cloth if possible (found at your local grocery store) save your poppy pod mush that gets caught in the strainer. at this point after an hour the tea is still hot and i will add honey, depending on how bitter the tea is i add to my taste. Other flavors ive use is anise, vanilla, cinnamon, sugar, fresh mint, orange extract. you have now made your first half gallon batch. next get another half gallon of water boiling while you grind up the other eight pods, make sure you saved the mush from the last batch cause your gonna go thro the exact same steps except adding another eight crushed up pods. note this batch is gonna be slightly weaker so add it to the first batch. You should only need one 12 oz glass of this tea to get high like none other. When drinking tea it takes about an hour before you start to feel the poium creeping up on you, your muscles relax your stomach sorta tenses slightly, you begin to feel lighter. after it begins to kick in it takes probabaly another hour or two before your high will begin to peak, after that your have atleast a good 8 hours of floatin on a cloud with your bowl of sunshine. i wouldnt drink more than one glass your first time unless your an experienced opiate user even then give it a few hours to gauge. you cann and will get extremely sick if you drink too much, and it is possible to overdose drinking opium tea.

[S2S]

I've been on Poppy Pod Tea for three straight days now and it's most certainly worth the money. I ordered thirty-six pods through E-Bay for only $30 including shipping and I still have about seventeen left.

Four medium pods is enough to make a 115lb male with a moderate opiate tolerance high and nod for almost nine hours straight. I never get the intense rush of euphoria that I get from Oxy or any other pill, but it's like I'm getting the warm come down feeling for a very long time and it is extremely enjoyable for me personally.

I can see how an experienced opiate user would think that they're a weak substitute for pills (Oxy especially) because there's no strong euphoria in the dose I take. However, I know you're experienced and probably much larger than me, so I'd say find a deal for at least twenty pods and make eight or nine at a time.

Remove the stems, grind the pods up, put the grounds in a coffee filter, add about one and three quarters cups of water to your coffee maker and let it brew. Repeat the process at least one more time with half the amount of water and drink it all up as fast as you can after it cools down a bit. Enjoy!

[RELAYER]

8 or 9 pods is perfect. And if you dont have a coffee filter, or a blender (which works but is a major pain in the ass), use a mortar and pestel and smash up half a pod at a time. Many of the batches I've made I've had to do it with less, and the pods typcially are very dried and therefor very difficult to grind into powder. If you have a ton of slivers of the pod dont worry, getting it to pure powder is not absolutley required.

[stalk]

wow 9 pods would have me scratching at the walls for an entire day O.O

[RELAYER]

wow 9 pods would have me scratching at the walls for an entire day O.O

Well, for me it would just be a little warmth anymore. But I meant to use up to 10 pods per gallon, and drink a cup 12-16oz. and go from there. I should have cleared that up :tongue:

[stalk]

ohhhhhh, per gallon. yeah that's better.
that would be a good dose for a day, space it out.
I would be having tons of visions and just lying there in bliss....

oh how I love these guys

[RELAYER]

ohhhhhh, per gallon. yeah that's better.
that would be a good dose for a day, space it out.
I would be having tons of visions and just lying there in bliss....

oh how I love these guys

Yea man, the guy who I quoted above and I used to make it all the time. I remember the firs time, it was a Friday, man what a fun night that was :) Used to make milk jugs of it, and take them on vacation, stay buzzing the whole trip

[stalk]

you can also add herbal tea to the poppy tea to make it taste better and add a little synergy.

:)

[kil0]

Few things I have to say about your instructions.
With step 3, you dont want to boil your water, you want to remove it from direct heat moments before it actually starts boiling completley.
With step 4, you want to add very liberal amounts of an acidic juice, lemon juice or grapefruit, whatever is fine, as you let it sit because the acid will cause the alkaloids to seperate into the liquid, and you want to let it sit like that for at LEAST 30 minutes.
Done this many, many times. Never used less than 6 large pods per gallon, preferably 10.
God Bless +

sweet, thanks a lot man. I get step 3. But step 4, after adding the grounded poppies, I add a little bit of lemon juice?

and its great to talk to someone whos done this. So with about 10 pos I can make a gallon of tea? About how much do you drink to feel good?

[kil0]

And what type of grinder do you use?

[RELAYER]

sweet, thanks a lot man. I get step 3. But step 4, after adding the grounded poppies, I add a little bit of lemon juice?

and its great to talk to someone whos done this. So with about 10 pos I can make a gallon of tea? About how much do you drink to feel good?

Yea, use 8-10 pods per gallon, drink 12oz. and see how you feel. If you feel nothing in an hour, drink another 12oz. and take it from there. And dont use a little bit of lemon juice, use like a 1/2 cup. Helps kill the taste and you should be very liberal because this is a very cheap extraction :)
God Bless +

[kil0]

Yea, use 8-10 pods per gallon, drink 12oz. and see how you feel. If you feel nothing in an hour, drink another 12oz. and take it from there. And dont use a little bit of lemon juice, use like a 1/2 cup. Helps kill the taste and you should be very liberal because this is a very cheap extraction :)
God Bless +

aight cool. Im gonna make 10 pods. So I grind up 10 pods and boil a gallon of water, then add the pods with a 1/2 cup of lemon juice, and then drink 12oz?

[Euphorial]

If I ever make this I want to make a substantial amount to store in a jug :)

I'll wait for the report from you, kil0. And be picky!

[jo_k_er_man]

aight cool. Im gonna make 10 pods. So I grind up 10 pods and boil a gallon of water, then add the pods with a 1/2 cup of lemon juice, and then drink 12oz?


pull the pot of the burner right when you start seeing the bubbles build up on the bottom and sides of the pot.. right before boil.. otherwise you risk destroying a lot of the opiods

[kil0]

^thanks joker. Im ordering the poppies tonight, and I should be typing a report by the weekend.

[kil0]

Okay, the order has been placed last night. This is a pic of what Im supposedly getting sometime this week, hopefully by friday so I could have the exp report by saturday.

http://i19.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/05/f0/8262_1.JPG

When I get em, I'll be back to ask more questions about the preparation of the tea, and how to dry it to make some opium.

[RELAYER]

Yep, looks like a good batch to me :)

[stalk]

definitely delicious

[FritzDaKat]

And dont forget, as long as you're gonna' have a ton of these seeds on hand, may as well scatter them around somwhere in the fall or spring for next year, in your yard, some sunny spot in the woods, etc. ;)

They grow soooo slowly indoors :(

Cant wait to make some lemon-poppy seed muffins to munch with my tea.

[kil0]

son of a bitch man! the motherfucker I ordered from had to leave town to Pennsylvania, he aint gonna be back til saturday.

I got a great deal though, he said its upto me, he could send the money back or I could wait til saturday. damn dawg Im pissed son...

[stalk]

son of a bitch man! the motherfucker I ordered from had to leave town to Pennsylvania, he aint gonna be back til saturday.

I got a great deal though, he said its upto me, he could send the money back or I could wait til saturday. damn dawg Im pissed son...


are you black?

[kil0]

WTF? nah. Im hispanic, born in Colombia.

[jo_k_er_man]

i thought hispanics said "B" not "Son"...

[kil0]

whata hell? whatchu want me to say? orale essay??? I listen to mostly NY hip-hop so some of the words get stuck with me. especially godbody slang.

I did fuck up though, I usually say sun instead of son. I call my brothers sun cuz they shine like one.

[stalk]

that's awesome

[RELAYER]

I listen to mostly NY hip-hop so some of the words get stuck with me.

You dont want beef with people like me so dont pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again
You get no props in hiphop like effeminant men
Im iller than any plague God gave Moses to send
:)

[Euphorial]

This 15x kratom is pretty awesome :cheers2:

I probably took 2.5 g i think? maybe slightly more or less. Its not a "substitute" but its quite fun and sedating. However, the second dose I took hasn't really kicked in so maybe it'll become a lot better, or just make me nauseous... we'll see :D

[Euphorial]

Fuck that, I don't really like Kratom anymore :mad:

It made me feel really nauseous... and not that great. I'm glad I had some molly to change my mood a bit :D

[FritzDaKat]

As long as we're going off the topic a bit here, has anyone tried Wild Dagga?

[LegendInHisTime]

Hello everyone I'm new here I just ordered 40 medium papaver somniferum. I was going to try making the tea through the coffee maker. Also after I grind the pods I was also thinking of mixing tea with it for brewing. I have a small tolerance like 2 oxycodone 5mg immediate release suit me well. So how many pods should I use if my Coffee maker can brew 12 cup

[LegendInHisTime]

Also to help out 12 cups equals 3 quarts & a gallon is 4 quarts

[kil0]

You dont want beef with people like me so dont pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again
You get no props in hiphop like effeminant men
Im iller than any plague God gave Moses to send
:)

Hell yeah, Technique is one of the illest.

"I bring heat like the deserts of Saudi Arabia
Bury competition like Mesopotamia
eminating radiation, pissin liquid uranium
I bring the ruck like Europeans, drugs, in soccer stadiums
I'll split your cranium with perfect symmetry lyrically
if you're not the illest than you dont deserve to spit with me
OBS obliverating bastards sacrilegiously
I sacrifice niggaz who talk shit ritualistically
meticulously making all my rivals suicidal
Like white suburban kids on acid reading the Satanic Bible
My arrival is genocidal, like Christopher Columbus
exterminating races of whack emcees, who walk among us"

Hello everyone I'm new here I just ordered 40 medium papaver somniferum. I was going to try making the tea through the coffee maker. Also after I grind the pods I was also thinking of mixing tea with it for brewing. I have a small tolerance like 2 oxycodone 5mg immediate release suit me well. So how many pods should I use if my Coffee maker can brew 12 cup

10mg? you dont have a small tolerance, you dont have a tolerance at all lucky bastard :) . be careful when you drink the tea, I hear its easy to overdose so take it slowly.

anyways, UPDATE. I talked to the cat thats sellin me the pods, and he said sorry for the inconveniece, he had to go out of town because his best friend got shot in Pittsburgh. I told him it was cool n I hope his friend gets better, and he said thanks and he was gonna throw in some extra pods for free :D

As for now, omg I found a hook up for some percs.. which will have to do for now until I get those pods. Im gettin 20 perc 5/325s later on. These are better than the perc 5s I had before, because I had the 5/500, and there are 5/325, they got less apap.

[RELAYER]

Yea he is ill but did you hear that new album with Green Lantern? Fuck I hate Green Lantern, the album completley blows. I mean the lyrics are tight for most of it, and the first track is awesome, but the rest is trash compared to what he's released before.
And the gayest part is the album was released on my birthday lol

[kil0]

June 24th? I thought the 3rd World was straight, although definitely not even close to his best work. I liked several songs, hollywood driveby, the first one, golpe de estado(the spanish one, I could understand it perfectly, and tech destroys it), the payback, and my favorite was Mistakes. Did you listen to mistakes? that shit was bomba.

Just got the percs, hopefully today will be a good day lol. Relayer, have you ever mixed percs with poppy tea? is a good idea? obviously not overdose, drink a little bit less tea, and pop a few percs?

[RELAYER]

June 24th? I thought the 3rd World was straight, although definitely not even close to his best work. I liked several songs, hollywood driveby, the first one, golpe de estado(the spanish one, I could understand it perfectly, and tech destroys it), the payback, and my favorite was Mistakes. Did you listen to mistakes? that shit was bomba.

Just got the percs, hopefully today will be a good day lol. Relayer, have you ever mixed percs with poppy tea? is a good idea? obviously not overdose, drink a little bit less tea, and pop a few percs?

Yea Im going to have to have my girlfriend listen to the spanish song lol, she's Dominican so every time theres a spanish verse I have to ask her whats he saying :tongue: Where are you from again kil0? I really need to start learning the language, been mad lazy about it.
But to be honest nah, never mixed percs with a tea, only reason I ever had tea was because I couldnt find percs!

[Feelings Of U4ia]

June 24th? I thought the 3rd World was straight, although definitely not even close to his best work. I liked several songs, hollywood driveby, the first one, golpe de estado(the spanish one, I could understand it perfectly, and tech destroys it), the payback, and my favorite was Mistakes. Did you listen to mistakes? that shit was bomba.

Just got the percs, hopefully today will be a good day lol. Relayer, have you ever mixed percs with poppy tea? is a good idea? obviously not overdose, drink a little bit less tea, and pop a few percs?

How did you see is birthday?

[RELAYER]

How did you see is birthday?

I guess he just knew that the album came out on June 24 :)

[kil0]

I guess he just knew that the album came out on June 24 :)

correctamundo lol. I lot of good albums came out that day, Immortal Technique's the 3rd World, and Wu-tang Clan's RZA as Bobby Digital in Digi Snacks.

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam I got so high last night! I ate 55mg of percs, and boarded a space shuttle to heaven!!!! plus I was smoking trees all night too. this shit made my weekend. Well, I ate 55 mg, then like two hours lated popped another 15, so it was 70mg in total.

[RELAYER]

The first Bobby Digital is one of my favorite albums man :)
Hope you enjoy those percs, be careful thought with the tea, I wouldnt mix until you try the tea first, ya know? Just to be safe.
God Bless +

[Feelings Of U4ia]

correctamundo lol. I lot of good albums came out that day, Immortal Technique's the 3rd World, and Wu-tang Clan's RZA as Bobby Digital in Digi Snacks.

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam I got so high last night! I ate 55mg of percs, and boarded a space shuttle to heaven!!!! plus I was smoking trees all night too. this shit made my weekend. Well, I ate 55 mg, then like two hours lated popped another 15, so it was 70mg in total.

Man be careful, that was 4,225mg of APAP you just ingested...4000 is the max in a 24 hour period I would suggest. I wouldn't do this more then once a month if you have to take that much.

[RELAYER]

Man be careful, that was 4,225mg of APAP you just ingested...4000 is the max in a 24 hour period I would suggest. I wouldn't do this more then once a month if you have to take that much.

Agreed, 4000 is the max that is offically suggested. Even though 7000 is the immediate threat, going over 4000 can not be good for your liver. And we dont want to lose ya kil0, your a cool cat :)
Stay healthy (relatively lol) and God Bless +

[kil0]

The first Bobby Digital is one of my favorite albums man :)
Hope you enjoy those percs, be careful thought with the tea, I wouldnt mix until you try the tea first, ya know? Just to be safe.
God Bless +

I gotcha man. Yeah, In stereo is dope too. My favorite album of all time though is Liquid Swords, I think its up there with Illmatic & 36 chambers.

You're right, Im gonna try the tea by itself first, it is a better idea. Does the tea get you itchy as hell too?

Man be careful, that was 4,225mg of APAP you just ingested...4000 is the max in a 24 hour period I would suggest. I wouldn't do this more then once a month if you have to take that much.

Yeah I know U4ia! it sucks! thats why I hate vicodin, percocet, and all those acetaminophen containing painkillers. Im telling you, oxycontin is non-existent where I live, all I could get is these sorry percs. I need help man! Thanks for the advice too, and you 2 relayer :)

[RELAYER]

Yea, mad itchy! More than percs in my experience, but not as much as oxy.
And Liquid Swords, classic right there. Same with GZA's other solo album, I forget what it's called though.

[Euphorial]

Damn, this thread is making me hungry for opies :(

I've only taken huge amounts of acetaminophen twice, but both times there were no immediate effects (or even ANY hint of nausea). I wonder how often you need to do that in order for it to be dangerous?

Oh, and glad to here about your opie fun kil0.

[kil0]

yeah, finally. its been almost 2 months without em euphorial. I had such a great night :D

the other dope GZA album is Beneath the Surface. Did you hear the DJ Muggs vs. GZA, the Grandmasters? Its the dopest of his new shit, although he just came out with another new album like a month ago called Pro-Tools, but I've only heard 2 songs from it. theyre fire though.

[RELAYER]

yeah, finally. its been almost 2 months without em euphorial. I had such a great night :D

the other dope GZA album is Beneath the Surface. Did you hear the DJ Muggs vs. GZA, the Grandmasters? Its the dopest of his new shit, although he just came out with another new album like a month ago called Pro-Tools, but I've only heard 2 songs from it. theyre fire though.

That the one! Beneath the Surface, man I used to drive around South Philly in a beat up mini van bangin that jaun out a cassette tape :D
One morning I was all hungover from morphine, and was leaving the house in a rage (my cousin who I was staying with was being a dick, making up fake bills and extra rent costs) on my way to get more and as soon as I started that van up, I pulled to the block and went to turn left without looking, and smashed right into these gangsta car haha. First thing I did was turn down the Wu, didnt feel like gettin shot that morning

[kil0]

LOL man you're crazy. are you in your 20s? 30s? cuz I noticed it mostly that age range that listens to Wu. The younger kids nowadays like that gay soljaboy shit.

[RELAYER]

Im 23 :) But I look younger, at least that's what people used to tell me. I dont know, my photo is in my profile you can see, sometimes i get carded, sometimes I dont :tongue:

[kil0]

I just turned 21, i get carded everywhere. I uploaded some pics of me too.

damn my nose is hurting a little bit from last night. i coudnt stop scratching it. and I didnt even snort anything.

[RELAYER]

Cool! haha I love seeing how my friends on the forums look like in real life :)
Thanks for sharing kil0.
God Bless +

[Euphorial]

The younger kids nowadays like that gay soljaboy shit.

:puke:

haha and that nose scratching thing... :confused:

[kil0]

HELP! my pods finally arrived!! and they look great!

Im gonna make some tea right now! if anyone with experience makingthis shit is on right now, hit me up! I need some advice!

[kil0]

damn it, I need a grinder, and cant get one until my brother gets out of school..

[RELAYER]

I can try and help you!

[kil0]

Relayer! just the man I wanted to talk to!

how many pods should I use for half a gallon of water??

[RELAYER]

Yo!
If you dont have acess to a grinder right now, do you have a mortar and pestal? Or even a blender?

[stalk]

I used to just smash them and never used a grinder.
A grinder/blender is more effective,
but I used to get great results with just busting them up...

[kil0]

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t121/camilus23/PhotoMoto0128.jpg

would this thing work??

[stalk]

lol a cheese grater
I don't know, try it
just pulverize them the best you can

[kil0]

are the seeds inside the pod like a thousand lttle brown specs that look like sand??

[stalk]

yeah man those are poppy seeds.
ever had a poppy seed bagel?
YUM

you can save them for food, for growing, or to make a nasty poppy seed tea which I do not recommend.

[kil0]

aight. how exactly do you smash them??

[stalk]

well, set your seeds aside,
and pulverize your pods as much as you can.
with anything.....

[kil0]

can I shred them with my hands?

[stalk]

yeah, then just smash them to pulverize them further....

[FritzDaKat]

And if you like the tea, be sure to find a nice spot to scatter the seeds so they'll grow (Scatter either now or come springtime, but I've read where fall sown plants have more of what you want) or just G.Y.O. indoors.

[LegendInHisTime]

I received my pods earlier today as well I used a coffee grinder to grind them the first time. I only used four pods for 3 quarts water and ran it through twice in my coffee maker. I'm about to do a much more stronger batch and use 8 pods and remove the seeds from the pods before hand since I just grinded them up earlier when I did it first. I'll let you all know the results the first batch was weak but still did have a light effect.

[kil0]

one question about the method Im using. After heating the water, what would be more effective? putting the grinded pods into a coffee filter and then into the water, or just pouring the grinded pods into the water and stirring?

[stalk]

soak the pods in water for about half an hour, stirring occasionally. maybe add a bit of lemon juice, and some herbal tea if you have any.

then after 20-30 minutes strain the mush with cheese cloth or a t shirt

drink

[kil0]

ok cool. Gonna make another batch tomorrow. I made like a half gallon today with like 5-6 pods, and it wasnt that strong but it got the job done. I been high since like 9PM, and its 3:30 in the morning.

and whats the deal with drying that mush and smoking it? can it really be done? is it really like smoking opium? can you just smoke the pods? what about eating the pods, although I dont think that would be very pleasant.

[stalk]

you can eat the pods,

[kil0]

does eating the pods work better than making the tea??

by any chance, do you know if the leftover "mush" could really be dried and smoked? is it really like smoking opium?

[stalk]

i wouldn't smoke that..it might get moldy
tea is very effective, just find your dose.

[kil0]

is there any way at all to smoke the pods?? Im googling it like hell, and people talk about it in other forums, but they either dont give instrutions, or very confusing instructions....

[LegendInHisTime]

I'm sure a lot of you all have already seen this but Wikipedia has a page for poppy tea that will tell you anything you ever need to know. I guess what it is the pods aren't illegal to sell when their dried but any other way they are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_tea

[LegendInHisTime]

The tea may be prepared from either the whole seed pods or the pods alone. The seeds are nutritious but do not contain significant amounts of alkeloid. Dried poppy pods are first crushed for efficient extraction. When reduced to small pieces they form poppy straw, which is steeped in hot water with a small amount of lemon juice (or some other acidic condiment, e.g. lime juice, vinegar) added. After steeping for a few minutes, the mixture is strained and the brown liquid is set aside for consumption.

When the tea is drunk, its effects begin after about 30 minutes, lasting up to 8 hours. It is intensely bitter and some users add other flavorings to the tea. Grapefruit juice may also inhibit liver enzyme activation, thus increasing the strength and duration of the opiate effects.

The tea is also sometimes evaporated over a very low heat to make a thick, concentrated liquid or a dry powder, and some users put this material into gel caps to allow for dosage to be measured more carefully.

Although oral administration is the most common, dried poppy tea can also be snorted or smoked. However, many users report unpleasant side effects from these methods because of the non-active and potentially irritating substances which are present in addition to the alkaloids. Dried poppy tea is not the same as opium, as the former is made from the whole plant while the latter is made from exuded latex alone. Some users bypass the tea stage and simply add poppy straw to a food such as yogurt. This method partially masks the taste but may lead to more gastric discomfort than consuming tea or dried tea.

The pods may also be used in the green (undried) state to make tea.

To make a tea from the green pods all that is necessary is a blender, hot water, stove and sauce pan. It is crucial to blend the green pods into a fine mash in the blender, so that the maximum amount of alkaloids can be extracted. Then the mash should be heated over medium heat with three pods for every 8 oz. of water. This proportion may vary in relation to the strength of the poppy pods or an individuals tolerance to the drug, but is effective in most cases. Never allow the mash to boil, as this may destroy the alkaloids necessary to make a potent tea. Lastly, mix the heated mash with lemon and honey and steep for 15 minutes. The resulting beverage will yield immense pleasure and/or pain relief.

[Euphorial]

That'd be awesome to make some tar from that shit :D

Isn't that the only way to smoke it?

[kil0]

damn todays batch came out awsome. I drank about 15 oz and popped 20mg of oxycodone. yumminess here I come. :)

[Euphorial]

Dude hearing from you that it's an 8/10 makes me believe that it works :eek:

Hopefully I'll be getting a ton of vicodin tonight, but you know what we say about vicodin... 50mg will do some good, though :D

[Prod]

Yeah I've never tried the tea because I always thought it would be pointless but it is starting to spark my interest, I think I might have to try it.

[kil0]

Prod, the tea is awsome man. Even if you got tolerance, you just have to drink more. But the body buzz is amazing, and it lasts so goddamn long, I been high for 7 fuckin hours!! Im not as high as I was earlier, but Im definitely not sober.

But some weird shit is goin on. for some reason, this tea is getting me dehydrated?!?! I dont get it.. Has this happened to anyone. Im drinkin water like crazy right now cuz that shit.

[RELAYER]

Prod, the tea is awsome man. Even if you got tolerance, you just have to drink more. But the body buzz is amazing, and it lasts so goddamn long, I been high for 7 fuckin hours!! Im not as high as I was earlier, but Im definitely not sober.

But some weird shit is goin on. for some reason, this tea is getting me dehydrated?!?! I dont get it.. Has this happened to anyone. Im drinkin water like crazy right now cuz that shit.

??? Opiates always dehydrate me. Anyway, glad you got it right! :) It's one of the easiest extractions there is, but getting the dosage right is always tricky due to varying potency

[kil0]

One more question RELAYER. Do I add the lemon juice to the water while I boil it, or do I add the lemon juice to the water before I put the pods in??

[patHAOomg]

Man, I have ALWAYS been interested in brewing and trying some poppy tea, but I can't find any Poppy Pods anywhere around here.

Does anyone have any info on what the correct specimen looks like or where it likes to grow??

It seems to me that no one else is having much of a problem finding poppy pods.

I would love to try this tea and see what all the fuss is about... please help...

:cheers2:

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Man, I have ALWAYS been interested in brewing and trying some poppy tea, but I can't find any Poppy Pods anywhere around here.

Does anyone have any info on what the correct specimen looks like or where it likes to grow??

It seems to me that no one else is having much of a problem finding poppy pods.

I would love to try this tea and see what all the fuss is about... please help...

:cheers2:

You order them online.

[patHAOomg]

U4IA...

Get on AIM, man.

I need more info on this.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

U4IA...

Get on AIM, man.

I need more info on this.

I'll be on in a bit, I am out of opiates so I am not feeling well, heh.

[patHAOomg]

same here, brother. same here. i hope to re-up my supply of oxy on the morrow. but you know how that goes.... something ALWAYS happens and i get fucked over into waiting and waiting and waiting....

i downed 3 somas a few hours ago to take the edge off and i feel quite nice now that my mind is taken off the absence of opiates. thinking about tossing a 1mg or 2 of Lorazepam in the mix and passing out for the night. not sure if that's a good idea or not.

But i'm on AIM, man. Get on whenever you can. if i don't answer you, it's because i passed the fuck out. just leave me some "information" on poppy pods in an offline message. preferably, the info that you think i need. keep in mind, i've been researching poppy tea for over a year, i just don't know where to aquire the ingredients. that has been a ball buster for me. i have a great recipe that a friend uses regularly, but i just can't get the pods.

anyway.... hope you feel better, bro.

[kil0]

does anyone know if you can smoke the residue left over from the tea? I read you could evaporate the water, and smoke the powdered up leftover pods. is this true? Im about to try it, fuck it...

[kil0]

I rolled a joint of dried up poppy pod mush, and just finished smokin it. well I didnt get high, atleast not an opiate high I think, but I feel weird. I think it just got might lightheaded. it was pretty nasty too. although im not sober anymore, and I was sober before smoking the joint. and Im a bit sleepy too. probably not doing it again, but it was worth trying to see if it worked. damn, but as I type this, Im getting sleepier by the word! good night!!! im out.

[trippedelia]

haha good night kilO.

pod tea can make an average day working at a nursery into some damn fine 'springtime is here and the birds are singing' type day hahaha, waking round re-potting plants with a stupid grin sneaking onto your face when your not careful :)

only had ten plants or so, uprooted them this arvo while high as a kite cos I knew how tempting they wouldve been and i have too much going right now to get into opiates, last thing i want to do before i go to argentina in 2 weeks!!!

[jo_k_er_man]

would 50 5-6" pods for $35 be a good deal?

[Feelings Of U4ia]

would 50 5-6" pods for $35 be a good deal?

Yes.

[jo_k_er_man]

Yes.
do i ever have to worry about the quality of the pods.. or what?

which ebay dist. have you ordered from?

[kil0]

for the most part, most vendors sell good shit. As long as its the right type of pods, papaver somniferum.

[LegendInHisTime]

Yeah I would just go for the best price you can get as long as its the correct type of pods. I just ordered 30 for $21 on eBay from the same vendor I bought 40 from last time for $24. Just sort by cheapest price and then look for the best deal. This stuff really does work. Last batch that I brewed I grinded up 12 pods for 2 quarts ran it through my coffee maker 3 times. I drank two glasses and was nodding out for a good amount of time. The stuff taste like shit but fuck it's good to have around when you don't have any other opiates available.

[ratgirldjh69]

all i can say is be careful. i was a junkie for over 7 years and have been clean for over 6.
recently i started doing some poppy pods that a friend sent me for a gift. i thought i was ok because i never did more than three and i just ground them up fine and chugged the mix down. at first only one worked then finally i had to go to 2 and then 3. 3 is the most i have done and i only did 3 one time. BUT my body definitely remembers opiates. and after only doing this for a couple of weeks and only 2 or 3 times a week, never back to back- i got w/d when i tried to quit! i couldn't believe it! so now i am in the process of tapering off the pods by measuring (1 large pod was 5 tsp) so i am doing to 1 heaping tsp a day now. still i get w/d. poppy pods are no joke - i still can't believe how bad my w/d is and am so glad i didn't up my dose.
djh

[FritzDaKat]

Congrat's on avoiding the Downward Spiral for a second time there ratgirl. I recall watching for years as my Mom drove to the Methadone Clinic hoping to kick but it wasn't untill she did a few years of hard time that she finally got free of the needle. And thanks for reminding me at just how real addiction works. Certainly wont be inviting my Mom to any Tea parties anytime soon. :cheers2:

[ratgirldjh69]

hahaha
actually i ended up getting on methadone to kick H. and then had to kick the methadone - horrible. so now i am very leery of getting addicted to anything. but it is amazing how fast your body picks up on possible opiate addiction. it is just ready to start all over again! it only took a couple of weeks of 2 to 3 times pod usage for my body to start having w/d. i'm still tapering down. it is hard to keep tapering when you have a whole jar of ground pods in the kitchen calling your name - LOL

[FritzDaKat]

C'mon, flush em'. You can do it! But mail me the seeds!! :D

Alot of Persimmons grow around here and I'm planning on a test of mixing the seed with the jam then baking Kolachkis. :) Just dont like the texture of persimmon jam & guessing the added seeds would help really.

No need to mail em' really, I've got it covered ;)

[ratgirldjh69]

i'm actually having a pretty long taper thing going on.
just want to get down to where i'm on hardly none and then stop.
has anyone ever tried tapering like this? i powdered the pods and then measured the powder into teaspoons and now i'm down to 1 tsp a day...
amazing how 1 tsp can make a difference... this stuff is no joke

[FritzDaKat]

"has anyone ever tried tapering like this?"

Yea, you at the methadone clinic more or less.

Different substance, essentially tickling the same receptors.

My fingers are crossed for ya' RatGirl. ;)

[ratgirldjh69]

thanks i need it! i am still on 1 teaspoon of the powder almost every day. but today i stupided out and did 3 teaspoons and i can swear i feel it....
i guess i will have to go with 1 teaspoon for a while longer and then 1/2 a teaspoon and then every other day..... LOL
wish me luck :)

[Piink]

Hey all, first post here.

I just ordered some Papaver Somniferum pods. Hoping to get them sometime time early next week. Tonight has been the first night I've read about these pods and making tea. But I am by no means new to opiates (wish I were). :mad:
Anyways, I've been reading for about 4 hours now, and still haven't gotten a clear idea of what the high is like. From what I gathered it seems you get an opiate buzz, without the euphoria of most opioids. Kil0, I heard you asking before in this thread, and never getting a clear answer, but now you know! So help me out, what is it like?
Pull out those writing skills, give me a in depth descriptive 10+ sentences of the high. Or just a word or two would suffice;)

-Piink

[FritzDaKat]

Hey RatGirl, I recall reading somwhere about another "Schedualed substance" that some were trying to get approved for what in tests have shown to be a one time treatment for addictions, I forget if it was Ibogaine or DMT or whatnot, but they were getting pretty good results with Smokers, Opiate-addicted and Alcoholic folks. Just wondered if you had heard or looked into it at all.

I'l try to look around a bit more and find which substance it was they were testing for certain.

[kil0]

Hey all, first post here.

I just ordered some Papaver Somniferum pods. Hoping to get them sometime time early next week. Tonight has been the first night I've read about these pods and making tea. But I am by no means new to opiates (wish I were). :mad:
Anyways, I've been reading for about 4 hours now, and still haven't gotten a clear idea of what the high is like. From what I gathered it seems you get an opiate buzz, without the euphoria of most opioids. Kil0, I heard you asking before in this thread, and never getting a clear answer, but now you know! So help me out, what is it like?
Pull out those writing skills, give me a in depth descriptive 10+ sentences of the high. Or just a word or two would suffice;)

-Piink

you pretty much got it. Its an opiate buzz, just not as strong as oxy and other opiods. But it does give you a nice body buzz, and it lasts for hours unlike pharmies.

[Piink]

and you can actually "nod" off on the tea? That's whats making it seem pretty intense to me. I'll only nod on a nice dose of methadone or OC. I can't wait to try this shit.

[kil0]

nah, if you do OC and methadone, it wont make you nod like those. but it would make w/ds go away, and its a nice substitute for when you aint got shit. its not really that strong though, I didnt nod when I drank the tea by itself. But I did take 20mg of oxy with the tea, and that shit had me nodding.

[ratgirldjh69]

fritzdacat - are you talking about DXM? i was just reading about using it to help with pod w/d on another site. i haven't tried it - but i am still having slight w/d if i go a couple of days without my 1 tsp of pod powder.... makes me wonder if i either got very strong pods last time - or if i ground these up so fine that i am fitting much more in a teaspoon than i think i am.... when i measured an average pod of mine ground it was approx. 5 teaspoons full.
actually, i should be able to just stop - probably most of it is mental since i was an opiate addict for so many years before and just really hate w/d

[FritzDaKat]

Nope, it was ibogaine.

http://www.naturalnews.com/024724.html

http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernanthe_iboga

So while it might not be widespread in use due to the legal status of the plant, if ya' really want to kick for good, there do seem to be more options than just feeding Big Pharmacy money for their Methadone for years or decades. Naturally the Medical Industry does not wnat 1 shot cures like this, quite unprofitable for them...

[Piink]

Well, the pods came in and I made a batch. I used 7 pods for 6 cups of water. Followed the directions written on this thread.

When I first started drinking my stomach was feeling very heavy, kinda upset, but not too bad.

I drank about 12oz an hour ago. I don't feel much. I definitely feel "different", and not just from placebo effect. But I don't feel an opiate buzz whatsoever. I'm going to drink another glass and see if anything can come from this. Hope so.:rolleyes:

[PeaceAndRasta]

hmmm.. keep posting!

[Piink]

(I started a timer on my iphone)

I'm 1hr 30min into this. And half way through my second cup. I'm drinking it so slowly because every time I take a sip, my stomach feels heavier, with some minor sharp pains. It's not pleasant, but definitely tolerable. I've read of many people throwing up on their first time, hope that's not gonna be me.

Still not feeling "much". Definitely feeling "something". The best way I could describe this feeling is: Very similar to the feeling you get 20-30 min before you start tripping.

Hopefully the rest of this cup will get me some relaxed warm fuzz all over, but I'm doubting it.

[PeaceAndRasta]

i bet its gonna kick in randomly and itll knock your ass off! lol

[Piink]

Have you done Pod tea before? Does it normally take this long to kick in? (Been 1 hr 35 min)
Keep in mind, I'm not new to opiates... at all.

And what about the upset stomach?

[Piink]

idk.. finished the second glass.. definitely feel "something".. can't really place it. Doesn't feel like much of an opiate buzz. Hopefully this will kick in stronger in time. I'm going to bring a 3rd cup with me in a travel cup to a friends house. I'm gonna play some GoW2 for a while.

I will post either later tonight or tomorrow on the overall results of this tea.

Time since first cup: 1hr 45min (2 cups in so far)

[PeaceAndRasta]

na, but ive done kratom which is somewhat similar?

[RELAYER]

I wonder what the problem is Piink?
What size where the pods you used? And did you make sure they soaked with an acidic juice for at least 30 minutes? I dont know exactly how much time they require but that always worked for me.
Then again, I drank 2 cups once and felt just a little off for almost 2 hours, and while I was at a huge party on this rooftop, they suddenly started working like I had hoped.
But that was only one time, every other batch I've made has had noticeable warming effects within 30 minutes, at the most.

[Piink]

Thanks for the help guys.

Time: 3hr Dose: 3 cups

I definitely feel something stronger now. I feel warm all over and relaxed. The back pain I had earlier is gone =) I don't have the euphoric feeling I get from opiates, but I've read that doesn't always accompany the high with PT. I don't have the body "buzz" of opiates either. I do have the warm feeling but the "fuzzy" is missing, so to speak. Overall I feel good though, with some stomach cramps to boot.

To answer your questions Relayer: The pods were sized from a golf ball to just under a tennis ball. Most falling inbetween those two sizes. I didn't add any acidity to the mix, just plain water. I got it just before a boil, and then removed from the stove, added the powder and let sit for 30 min, while stirring. I read that the adding of acid isn't nec. Some people claim it may not even do anything. I did go to the gas station, buy a pack of cig's and a 20 oz grapefruit drink. I drank that, and I think that may be why I'm feeling this more now. I read that it helps your liver break down the enzymes. Do you think an acidity to the tea makes that big of a difference? I read a bunch of recipes which say it is optional, or don't mention it at all. And if so, do you think I could still add it to my tea? I have it in a gallon jug in my fridge. Thanks again for the help guys. I appreciate it. As I said, the effects are increasing with time, and I think the grapefruit may have done a lot. I'm going to continue to sip and continue to update.

P.S. another thing worth mentioning is I do have an reasonably high tolerance to opioids. I'm used to taking methadone and oxy to feel "good". That's why I was going to make the tea much stronger at first (15-20 pods), but after reading so much on it I decided against it. Many people warn of finding your dose first. Which is smart of course. Better safe than sorry, but I figured my tolerance would make this difficult.

P.P.S. I must say, just through the course of tying this replay the effects seem to have increased enough to mention. Still not "high as kite" but feeling good. Time to play some Gow2 (had to get my xbox from my friends, he took the other TV out of the den over there, so I'm back at my place.)

[RELAYER]

I firmly believe that the acid is a requirement to get the full potential. Because, the potentiation resulting from drinking acidic beverages is entirely noticeable, no doubt about that. But when you grind these pods into a powdery mess, most likely you still have some hefty shards floating around, am I right? And when you strain and filter to a jug or a cup whatever your medium is, those peices which werent pulverized to dust dont make it into your drink. The entire purpose of the acidic drink added (VERY LIBERALLY!) to your almost boiling water and poppy powder, is to help extract the dried opium out from the pods and into your tea. I realize that opiates at pharmacuetical grade are entirely water soluable, but the raw opium latex stuck to the pods needs that extra boost on top of the high water temperature in order to seperate and swim freely in the water and then freely down your throat.
Im no chemist by any means, my understanding is very limited, but this is how I've always made tea, and the times when I added less lemon juice then I normally would have resulted in lower potency tea. Might be a coincidence and I might be talking out of my ass, but this is just personal experiences acted out many times.
I hope you have better luck next time piink and enjoy the buzz you did manage to catch regardless :cheers2:
God bless

[Piink]

Elapsed time: 6hr 30mni
Dose: 4 1/2 glasses (about 12oz each)

Thanks much for your help R. I'll def add some acidity to it next time.

Right now, I am actually feeling pretty damn good. I got to admit. Feel like an opiate buzz. I kinda got the "fuzzies":o

It's not an intense buzz, or one I could ever nod from. But it feels damn good. I'll tell ya that. I'm a little itchy, and very relaxed. With the opiate feel throughout the body. And after I ate, it kicked it in a LOT more. Thanks for the help guys. I'll keep sipping, and keep posting if anything else progresses.

One more question. Besides the alkaloids that are getting me high, is there anything in here I should be worried about taking too much of? I can gauge how much i can handle by my buzz, but I just want to make sure there aren't any other harmful toxins that I wouldn't be aware of. I don't want to do damage to anything.

[Piink]

Elapsed time: 8hr 54min
Dose: 5 glasses

Well, I'm definitely on my come down now. Still feelin' good. No as good as before. It peaked for about an hour, which was pretty awesome. Definitely better than I had expected. But nothing to write home about. Overall, for how accessable, and cheap.. I'm highly impressed. The next batch I make is going to be twice as strong and I'm going to put a lot of lemon juice in it. I'll make sure to give a last update on this thread once I do (probably tomorrow ;)) if anyone is interested.

Gonna play some more Gears of War then hit the sac. Got a research paper due on Tuesday, need to get that mostly finished by tomorrow night.

Night guys! Happy hunting.

[RELAYER]

Im telling you piink, LIBERALLY add as much lemon juice as you can stand. The more the better. Tons of sugar and honey to kill the taste if you need it easier.
As far as physical damage, I believe there may be some liver concerns but dont quote me on it. As far as it goes, it's just the opium latex in liquid form instead of smoking the dried scrapings, so other than lemon juice, sugar, and water, no, there is no chems to worry about.
God bless

[S2S]

So you're saying that the best way to extract as much as you possibly can is to add near-boiling water to the pods then dump a bunch of lemon juice into the mixture?

Yesterday I added lemon juice to the final product and I didn't notice much of a difference...I'm probably doing it all wrong. :)

Also, is letting the pods steep for only five minutes in the hot water not long enough?

[RELAYER]

So you're saying that the best way to extract as much as you possibly can is to add near-boiling water to the pods then dump a bunch of lemon juice into the mixture?

Yesterday I added lemon juice to the final product and I didn't notice much of a difference...I'm probably doing it all wrong. :)

Also, is letting the pods steep for only five minutes in the hot water not long enough?

I would let it steep for at least 30, stirring reguarly.

[Piink]

Wow.. that was some opie sleep. Felt similar to going to sleep 6hours after you've taken a roxi. And now I definitely have the afterday effects. That heavy, drowsy, tender body, accompanied with a small headache. I still have more than half left from my first batch. Going to try and wait a while till I do that, though I may end up consuming tonight, if the hangover goes away. I'm getting some methadone tomorrow, so that should be fun.

How long will these tea stay "good" in the fridge? I'm guessing pretty damn long, right? Just like any other tea? And Relayer I heard you saying before, that you use 10pods per gallon, I think... is that correct? Whats the strongest brew you've ever made? For my next one I'm thinking 15 pods for 3 cups water, 2 cups grapefruit juice. 3pods per cup. What ya think?

[recoveringhereon]

anyone ever had any experience with this shit being an addict? I wonder if i'd feel it?
Maybe it could be used when your dopesick to get well?

[FritzDaKat]

Go back a page or two and look into Ibogaine. Everything I've read on the subject of Ibogaine as a treatment for addiction has been all positive. The only real negative I oculd see associated with it is the one faced by the Big Pharmacutical Companies and "Treatment clinics" who would loose a big hunk of their Consumer base revenues for Methadone and Nicorette gum.

Yea' it's still classed as having no medical value but thats the same tripe they push about Colloidal Silver and herbal remedies, and mainly the same reason as well, but as it's a halucinogen it gets classed as a Scheduled substance as well so ya' might have a hard time finding it.

[S2S]

I used a decent amount of lemon juice last night in a batch of six medium sized pods and let it steep for half an hour, but I think I may have used too much water. The buzz was still good but seemed a little weaker than normal, thought I might just be developing a tolerance.

The water issue has always been sort of confusing for me. Some reports say to use one cup of water for every three to five pods and some say to use more. How much do you guys use?

[pedaltopedal]

You're not going to run into problems from using too much water (well, within reason of course).

The alkaloids are pretty readily soluble in water, so even using a small amount of water seems to work pretty well for me. For example, adding just enough water to cover the grounds in a coffee cup is usually enough, though, I do this extraction twice and then add the two extractions together. This results in the least amount of tea to drink, but it seems enough to be able to extract most of the goods out.

I've never noticed an increase in the strength of my tea when using something acidic like lime or lemon juice. In fact, I think it makes the tea taste even worse, so I usually skip this step completely.

I've found that boiling the water, then pouring it over the grounds and allowing that to steep for 20 or 30 minutes, as has been mentioned, has shown the best results for me.

[Piink]

anyone ever had any experience with this shit being an addict? I wonder if i'd feel it?
Maybe it could be used when your dopesick to get well?

I have a high tolerance, and I doubted this stuff with all my mind, but after trying it, I'm convinced. It does indeed work. And I think you'd have to feel it, just find your dose. It contains many opiates, the two main ones are codeine and morphine, so if you can't feel extremely large amounts of codeine and morphine.. well then my friend. You need to stop doing opiates now.:p

But I don't see why anyone with any type of a tolerance wouldn't be able to feel this.. just adjust the dose to suit your tolerance, even if that means you have to consume the equivalent of 40 pods for one dose.

As far as it curing your w/d's, I think it'd be perfect for that. It definitely would help.

[RELAYER]

You're not going to run into problems from using too much water (well, within reason of course).

The alkaloids are pretty readily soluble in water, so even using a small amount of water seems to work pretty well for me. For example, adding just enough water to cover the grounds in a coffee cup is usually enough, though, I do this extraction twice and then add the two extractions together. This results in the least amount of tea to drink, but it seems enough to be able to extract most of the goods out.

I've never noticed an increase in the strength of my tea when using something acidic like lime or lemon juice. In fact, I think it makes the tea taste even worse, so I usually skip this step completely.

I've found that boiling the water, then pouring it over the grounds and allowing that to steep for 20 or 30 minutes, as has been mentioned, has shown the best results for me.
Perhaps my suggestion that acidic juices are a requirement for full extraction is a bit excessive, but one thing I have noticed is that actually getting the water to a rolling boil and adding to the ground pods while still in that state, seems to be too high of a temp and resulted in less potent tea.
But then again this is like the kindergarten of chemical extractions lol, and any time you use a pod the potency will vary, so there is no way to be sure with us all using this method.
I only mention this because I have ALWAYS used from the same vendor (no longer around, this was several years ago) and the potency has almost always been very high and consitent throughout the years. Except once when I tried a different strain, it was warming but also made me much more nauseas. Not in a pain that made me think it was treated pods, but just I dont know, 'heavier' if you follow.

[pedaltopedal]

But then again this is like the kindergarten of chemical extractions lol, and any time you use a pod the potency will vary, so there is no way to be sure with us all using this method.


Yea, you bring up a good point here.

We would need to be working with a homogeneous mix of pod material in order to accurately compare strengths of each brew. The potency between pods varies too much, making any results skewed. I suppose that's why everyone seems to swear by a slightly different method.

I don't have any doubts that the acidic juice does help to some degree, I just never noticed any increase (again, though, kindergarten chemistry, lol). I have a hard enough time drinking the tea without vomiting these days, and by adding the acidic juice, it just becomes unbearable for me to the extent that any increase in potency is just not worth for me, anyways.

So, then, do you brew with water that is lower than boiling temp? For example, boiling the water and then allowing it to cool for a few minutes before you add the pod material? I might have to give that a try. I've noticed that boiling the water with the pod material directly in the pot for 5 minutes or so seems to lower the potency (again, kindergarten extraction). It makes sense though that the heat would be most likely destroying at least some of the morphine.

[Piink]

From what I've read, and what I did, you bring the water to the point JUST below boiling (eg you start to see the bubbles forming on the bottom of the pot and such). Then you remove the water from heat and add pods.

-Correct? Worked for me.

[pedaltopedal]

That should work plenty.

The goods seem readily soluble in water anyways, assuming your pod material is ground up finely enough. I've even tried soaking the ground pods in room temperature water for 30 minutes, and it still works pretty well. There even seems to be a change in the nature of the high as well... as if it's more sedating and less nauseous, though obviously a little less potent at the same time.

My point being that I don't think the method has to be precise, because most of the goods come out of the pods easily enough it seems.

[Pellinore]

I tried it today.. drunk it 2 hours ago.. pretty awesome experience.. that sudden heat burst.. the light contrast shifting.. even a bird flying over was amazing to watch.. if just my stomache wasn't this upset..

[Piink]

Yea, my stomach was pretty bad off the first time.. definitely not quite as bad the second, but still upset. Are there any suggestions for this? (eg. eat before consuming, drink something else immediately after, drink pepto bismol right before?) I read ginger ale is supposed to help, and that makes sense, I always drink that when I have an upset stomach. Does anyone know what causes the upset stomach? What is in the Tea that causes that common side effect?

[Pellinore]

Yea, my stomach was pretty bad off the first time.. definitely not quite as bad the second, but still upset. Are there any suggestions for this? (eg. eat before consuming, drink something else immediately after, drink pepto bismol right before?) I read ginger ale is supposed to help, and that makes sense, I always drink that when I have an upset stomach. Does anyone know what causes the upset stomach? What is in the Tea that causes that common side effect?

I drunk it early in the morning before ingesting anything else.. that might have been the cause for me.. i think its also just the terrible taste of it.. like when eating shrooms..

[S2S]

The big key to reducing the nausea is to EAT!

Usually I won't eat for at least two hours before I drink my tea, then I'll wait about half an hour after ingesting it and have a light meal/snack. If any nausea hits me later on, I'll eat some crackers/pretzels/granola and it's gone in an instant.

Don't go crazy and eat tacos or a chili dog because those things might make it worse. Stick to plain foods and you should be nausea free.

[Piink]

Thanks S2S, I'm brewing my second batch now (letting it simmer for a couple hours). I'll try that this time.

[ratgirldjh69]

well i just wanted to say that i was having a hard time with the pods before.... actually i was strung out on them (LOL) and that i finally got my daily required dose down to 1 teaspoon of the pod powder - hahaha - and for some reason i can't get any lower than that. i actually wake up with big pupils in the morning and have the runs if i miss a couple of days of my 1 tsp dose!!! can you believe this!!??
but - one good thing is that if i want to get high i can feel even just one or 2 pods
one pod btw is approximately 5 heaping/sometimes level teaspoons..... just so you know... like anyone cares about this - LOL
djh

[TeamFDN]

I get pretty wrecked off of pods. I recently found an excellent vendor of the tasmanian variety and the price is unbeatable. But anyway, I made tea the first couple of times and got pretty high. After that I just ate all of the powder mixed with yogurt or ice cream. For me personally, I got much higher and it requires a smaller dose. I'm convinced that no matter how refined your tea making technique is, you're not getting the full amount of alkaloids. Well, that's just my opinion but I always do what works best for me. Plain and simple: I get much higher when I just straight up eat the powder.