Question.

[MamaKate08]

My boyfriend and I one day would like to attend a rainbow family gathering. We have a child together and ive got a few questions.

Do kids enjoy the family gathering?
Does it matter what age the child is?
What all do the kids do there?

I would really like to attend a gathering and bring my child.

Thanks.

Peace & Love

[stalk]

kids love the gatherings.

they have a blast.

[soaringeagle]

kids have a while kid villiahge there is no age limmit many kifds are born at the gathering sime ive met weere conceived at born at and attended every 1 since birth (met 1 who was 19 never miced 1 since conception)
the gatherings resally are for the kids the kids are our futire we gather for them to imptove the workld they inherit

the jid villiage parsade breaks the sillence on the day of the prayer for peacve

they are an important part of the gathering..
so much so that any kid that attends council has the same respect as any adult and...the same abulity to for a momment become the leader of the tribe and block any concensusees
we love our family young and old
and oyr kids are our modst valueable resourse for they will inherit what we created

[WanderingturnupII]

My Lady & I took our 2 year old to Wyoming. What did she do there? Hmmm, lessee....Spent a lot of time riding in her stroller saying hello to doggies and road doggies, got really pissed when I made her stop playing in the finger paint and go in the kid's parade on the 4th, found out that if you run off as fast as you can at the trade lane you get to where you can't see Mommy or Daddy AT ALL and this is REAL SCARY, (Daddy was hiding behind a tent watching her the whole time), provided food for 47levendozen gazillion mosquitoes, played with other kids that were doing pretty much the same things...is yours big enogh to carry firewood, or use sharp edged tools without amputating anything or giving you a heart attack?

Hey Big Bird, remember how much trouble you found yourself in when you tried to tell my Lady whether or not we should take our kid to Arkansas? This is a subject which does not lie within your area of expertice.

[soaringeagle]

i remember only you freakihng out totaly misunderstanding what i was sayihng
i remember you falling into hhb's paranoia trap and missing a great gathering because he convinced you evil scary things would happen
im surprised you tool them to wyoming after he tried convincing you everyone would starve to death cause there wouldnt be enough food

i camped in kid villiage in ark
it was wonderful
the kids had a blast
yours missed a great gathering
again..dont give in to hhb's paranoa
bring the kids..and yourselves home

[WanderingturnupII]

i remember you falling into hhb's paranoia trap

This had nothing to do with Mr Mountain William. Once again, you show how little you know. If I fell into a "paranoia trap", it was the attorney DonE's paranoia trap. He posted elsewhere about stoopid hippies burning poison ivy. FYI, my Lady, who, BTW, pushed you up a hill in WV and says she'll never do that again, is allergic to poison ivy. Camping at that site would quite likely have put her in the hospital. I do not yet know if our daughter, that is, DFly's and my daughter, you and the rest of RFOLL are not included in that "our", reacts to poison ivy as badly as her mom, but I know the way to find out is not to take the baby camping in Arkansas in July. And you missed a great gathering up by Warren that August...probably the greater for your having missed it.

[soaringeagle]

what the hells wronmg with you still going on the attack? how nice ogf you
i try to tell ua it was a beautiful gsathering and wish ua nmsade it and u insust in turning that around and saying a gathering was better because i wasnt there?
thats pretty damnnasty of ya
why the hell do you and hhb insisdt on always attacking always arguing always turniung everything into a fight
again here i am trying to give this sister adivce haviung nothing to do with you at all and u jumpo on in to start a fight...

wheres the love?


i am sick of the noth of yoiu i hasve gone way way wayout of my way to deal with you with respect woith diplomacy with kindness and even understyanding and always just get shit flung toitaly off topic dragging shit thread to thread irrelevant crap thrown in that haver noth9ing to do with the subject

atguments just for the sake of arguing.. although i hagve foiund you to be more reasonable then hhb sat times, it takes a tin of pointless effort to reach a state oif easin..

ive avoided this forum 1 of my faviorites with the poeopke i love the most for 4 or 5 minths to avoid hhb;s attacks now i stop in 4 1 single day to hgelp 1 single sister and you jump all over me fotr noi reason...

ids this how you always behave?

back at the ark thing did u once even mentiin piosion ivy? hell no u went on a rant about the feds
you claimed the fed s were a danger and had shot at your kids and you insisted texas/ask would most likely become a bloodbath

never once doid u menton this piosion ivy thing.. maybe because there was no bloodbath?

again arguing for the sake \of arguing..

dint bither replying ill let you go on piosioning this sisdters mind if you choose scaring her away from bringing her kids ti the greatest experience of ytheyre lives
like hhb has dione to you
i wont dispute your claims or reply to your post but if this sistrer wants toi talkj yhen ill gladly atalk away from you and hhb's constant attacks...u boith need to grow up

[hippiehillbilly]

lol i know im being talked about here but i cant decipher a fucking complete sentence of it..
i swear i know 8 year olds with better typing skills,grammar and spelling...

theres this wonderful tool available for free all over the net called spell check,you really should try it. oh wait,spell check requires the spelling be close to the proper word one is trying to use. i doubt that would help in this case...

[WanderingturnupII]

"Like an old wino muttering to himself on a park bench."

[stalk]

"Like an old wino muttering to himself on a park bench."

I know that guy! He duplicated 1,000 times!

[WanderingturnupII]

.probably the greater for your having missed it.
OK, that was too snarky. I should shut up and smoke a bowl....
and oyr kids are our modst valueable resourse for they will inherit what we created
I guess you mean "our" kids....this is what got you in trouble before....I don't know who this "us" to whom you refer is that has "our" kids, but you are not part of it. Until you have had the responsibility of caring for a child at a Gatheing, you have no idea what you're talking about. Hell, if I was in a real bad mood, I'd call Fillepe out if he started pontificating too heavily about "our" kids.

Kate, please don't let the horrible grouchy old men scare you away. Horrible grouchy old men are part of the entertainment at a Gathering. Hang out at the Ovens before coffee sometime. It's a real hoot!

[rainbowgeek]

And come to the Reading Rainbow Library if it's there, always a good kid scene! I'm definitely going to be there next year for nationals! My little girl just turned four, she was born at the World Rainbow Gathering in Quebec, along with another boy. :)

Love and Light,
Joshua

[soaringeagle]

wait your the 1 calling me grouchy? i come here with words of kindness and get attacked
i come here trying to help and get attacked



our kids as in us we the we that love you as in the we who are all one family unted or have you forgotten?
ds no matter whois kids if i saw them in danger would be protectred as if they were mine it dont mnatter
justr like id do the samre for all my brothers and sisters

and again hhbin your fuckling ignorance must i remindd you again attacking someone on spelling alone is the surest sign you have nothing inteligent to say

again im a quadriplegic who types far more inteligent and thoughtful thoughts then your negativity and personbal attacks although i do type very fast on a keyboard that has every letter worn completyely blank excepe q x z v m k and p
leyts see u erase all the letters on yours but those and type 1 fingered any better then that

how many timnes have you muspelled words that arent even words you just use redneck hick missp[ellings like you never finnished the 4th grade?
do i go around attacking you? no i avoid you as much asd possible but you follow me around and insist on attacking my spelling every chance yoiu get..well congrats we are just so impressed with your awesome intelect and your ability to express yourself with attacks more suitable to ..a child


who he is as a person and rainbow brother..
i still respect thgem for who they probly aere as a person face to face buyt here in cyberland they act like children being mean just for the sake of beiong mean

look through many threads where new rainbows come asking questions and get belittled and abused instead..
i do all i can here to give solid loving advice and treat all with fairness and especialy the respect they desserve but these 2 make it so uonconfortable here..inb my own home that i feel the need at timnes to avoud my favorite forum for months at a time.. welcome home indeed...come on in and get your abuse..


do you know why the council works? 1 word... respect...
so...where is the respect?


i respect the rights of bullies to be bullies by trying to simply avoid them all i can, but thats hard to do when you talk to some1 completely unrelated and they jump on in with attacks like you see here..

i say to kate bring your kids home and have a great time.. and just for that you see what i get?

respect?



or childish bullying

[hippiehillbilly]

for the record YOU brought me into this thread. if YOU wouldnt have involved me in this i wouldnt have even commented.. YOU and YOU alone are to blame for that..

as far as me on occasion typing like i talk,big difference tween typin like ya talk an typin like you talk like a wino mumbles on a park bench.. ;)

now see i could actually read most of that post which proves if you take the time you can actually make your posts readable..
if you really gave a shit like you say you would take that extra time with every post.. ;)

[soaringeagle]

thoughts mnatter more then spelling
again childish fingerpionting..you you you you did thisds and that you mispelled you (lets throw in childish name calling too a whino on a park bench..had i said u talk like an inbred retard>? no i wwoulkdnt even if you do)

the thoufghts you express oh so eloquently are mean, they are ignorant and above allk disrespectful
yes i mentioned you, because you have made it so unconfortable to even come iin here that ive had to avoid it foe months at a time
im simply trying to show you how you make people feel with your disrespect your attacks your attempts to constantly make others look bad
\and especialy when you respirt to such childishness as name callingand attacks oin gramnmar

(your stupid no your stupid no your stupid.. how mnany times have you seen 5 year oldsehave that way? wa wa wa you cnt even spell yor stupid and you smell bad..lol grow up already)



others here have always trewatted me and everyone with respect..
even thge couple people who i think maybe lil braindammaged and always seem to just post totakly off the wall stuff totaly unrelated to the subject at least do it with respect
only the 2 of you seem so inbsistent on constantly disrespecting me and others like children

you dont make people feel welcome..you drive them away..
welcome hime go fuck yourself huh? are you both a-camp or something?



hhb if i use spellcheck will you use meancheck? check all your words for hints of meanness? maybe try being a lil nice for a change?
i'll make the effort if you do





everuytime u post remember 1 word..respect then check your post to see if you are speaking with respect

[hippiehillbilly]

your a fucking hypocrite,, go play on my space...

[soaringeagle]

thanks again for the respect..and the welcommiung.. yup welcome hoime no go away


im a hypiocrite huh?

[hippiehillbilly]

i would never welcome you.. ;)

now go away..

[soaringeagle]

grow up





id welcome everybody

including you
yoiyu really need to get over yourself

to everyone else let me explain
in west virginis in 1 day i met over 80 people from these forums.. inclkuding hhb.. i had severe heatstroke st the time and was on the virge of passing out
it was a 1 minute or dso meeting while meeting at least 80 othgers.. i only rememvber who maybe 10 out oif the 80 where.. i forgiot meeting hhb..and ever since hes helpd a grudge against me like a chilsd no matter how many times i explained why i forgoyt or appologized for it
from that day on hes acrted like a fucking child.. always with this your stupoid go away attitude and attacks against me(hes attacked many others if they ever say anything to embarrass him) hes just nasty childish and has absolutely no respect
i have gone way way way out of my way to try to be civil to try to iplomnaticly come to a solution and find a way to get along..
he insists instead oin invadinfg all my threads with insults
i begged him to never reply to anything i sdaid never read my threads since he seems incapwable of behaving like a rational human being with maturityu and respect
but no if i ever post anythingt outside oif 1 forum he jumps right in with insults
im sich and tired of it]
'iuve tried goiung away for minths at a ti8me hoping maybe hed gain maturity or get over his grudge but no the very 21st post i makje and hes jumping all over me telling mne to go away..welcomefucking hiome
hhb
if anyone should go away its you..but..i wont stoop to your level welcome him e now learn to behave..goddamn you frustrate the hell ouyt of me'
i just want to spend time here with my fdamiluy i love and respect
whyat the hell gives u the right to tell me to go away?
nothing!!1

u dont like it..you leave

[Marcmf]

hhb you are acting like a child. just chill out. even if you dont like soaringeagle you dont have to bitch at him all the time even if he does bring you into something. everyone just fucking shut up, get along, and quit filling the forum with stupid posts. if your both family then just hug each other and smoke a damn bowl

[hippiehillbilly]

once again, i never would have said a word if crybaby there woudnt have drug me into a discussion i had no part in..
i really could give a flip flyin fuck what you think marcmf.. when people go talkin shit im going to rebut there comments.
you dont wanna have me in your business then quit draggin me into it..
i know,i know, you need a scapegoat to justify your actions..
pathetic...

[Marcmf]

im just saying the forums shouldnt be filled with these stupid posts and if you dont like him just ignore him because bitching online is pointless

[hippiehillbilly]

once again,
I WOULD HAVE IGNORED HIM HAD HE NOT MENTIONED ME A DOZEN TIMES IN HIS 2 PREVIOUS POSTS!!
what part of that dont you understand? tell him to keep me outta his issues with others and the problem is solved..
pretty fuckin sad you focus on me when hes the one that brought me into his and someone elses business..

jesus fucking christ some people just refuse to use any common sense...

[soaringeagle]

and somre refuse to drop t no matter how hard others trt ro
been trying to end this bickering for several years now even avoidingf you for minths and 1st poost i make u start up sagain


again forthe 10,000'th time ill ask respectfully if u cant act mnature then do noit read my posts do noit reply to themn
and im sorry for mentioning you..id u look though i was mentioining how he fell into your paraniosa treap that was noit mneant to mention you oinly how you had affected and lead to the entire misunderstanding between me and him
i dont even know him personalky yet your influence has caused a misunderstanbding that seems impossible to fix because hes jumped on the throw around insults and refuse to listen to reason bandwagon

now your all klike wa wa wa he mentioned myt name.. after you threw around some pretty mean insults trying hard as you can to make me look bad ..well good for you were all so peoud of you you sure showed us how a rainbow should act huh?

i am sorry i did compare you to a child and a 4th grade droppourt but thats how you act alot

i do apologize though..are u capable of ever apologiziung for all the horroible things u say? can u offer the ame respect?


we are peacekeepers after all right?

[hippiehillbilly]

yeah your right floundering turkey you refuse to drop it..

why dont you go "rescue" some little girl on myspace? i hear you get off on it...

[soaringeagle]

ptryyu pathetic attemots at insults

you do realize thsat u look more and more pathetic with every post dont you?

onmyspace i provide alotta rainbo vids and stuff and have something like 3000 freids who treat me with respect and love and i treat them the same
what is your problem your midserable with no real freinds so are jealousei have so many? is that it


change your attitude.. try being nice.. if your nice u will have freinds too
(doesnt that make sence?)

[hippiehillbilly]

you do realize you come off as a illiterate holier than thou hypocrite dont you?

i could care less why you like to play your little games with the children on myspace. although quite frankly i find it creepy and im far from the only one on these forums with that sentiment.
but thats neither here nor there,like i said, your the one continuing this why dont you try to just fuck off?

[MamaKate08]

So when I saw how many post I got at first I was happy because i thought i would be getting answers about the gatherings and i did get some answers (which i am happy about). But most of the post on here are two adults acting like children (sorry i no that is mean to say). All i wanted was some questions answered about kids and the gathering cause I am really into going to one and would love to bring my child. I didnt mean to get anyone mad at each other.

Please keep the peace

Peace and love

[hippiehillbilly]

my apologies i only respond when im addressed.. perhaps now someone will let it go and your thread can get back on topic..
again,my apologies for having to rebut so many off topic posts in your thread....

[MamaKate08]

Thank you.

[Toker4Emery]

well.. since this thread was started by my girlfriend, i thought i would say something. First of all brothers, i was hoping that when kate signed up with the forums she would get nothing but positiveness from the people on here. (after all, i am trying to convince her to go to gatherings) I can see how a quarrel on here can happen just like any other forums. BUT were talking about the rainbows here. You guys are supposed to be the most peaceful people in the country!! Other people might visit the forums who are curious about the family, and get the idea that not only are gatherings scary, but everyone disagrees which each other as well. I know thats not the case, as the cops can only be so dangerous. (face the facts- if a child was to get hurt because of raid or what have you- the cop(s) would be crucified if it was caught on tape-- which they should be afraid of after the youtube hype over what happened in WY) OK, maybe it shouldnt have been brought up to begin with, but escalating the statement to a fight between brothers just isnt cool :) You guys should apologize to each other and agree to get each other stoned as shit at the next gathering you see each other at.. thats just what i think. peace brothers... peace

[Dragonfly]

Sister we did (wanderingturnup and i) take our 2 year old to the gathering this year, it was beautiful, she had an awesome time, she knows how to say "tea time" (of course) and she totally loved trade circle. She got tired at dark every night, and didn't wake up until around 8-9 every morning, it was difficult to find her food in the morning though, but by 10-11 it was getting served up. I never had any problems with her for the most part, if you take you child to a gathering will it be his/her first gathering? My daughter's first gathering was a shawnee when she was 3 months old, and now she's been to 7 all together.


Soaring Eagle;
Just so you know brother, I've lived in Arkansas, Cindy Lynn was born in Arkansas, we didn't not go to the gathering because of bloodbath gun fights, ect. Wwe heard from a good source that folks were burning Poison Ivy, if I even inhale a lil bit, I could die, and I hate chiggers. lol! From everyone I spoke to about the AR gathering everyone of them, and I do keep up with my road family, they all got the poison ivy, everyone. I'm not scared off easily by the "paranoia" of hhb, he's not scary, really, grouchy and sometimes rude yes scary no. But ya know he is still my brother and I do still love him.
Next year if I don't make it to New Mexico don't ever say it's because something scared me away, ya know bigger than the price of gas.

Peace.

[soaringeagle]

mine as well i was just trying to give you some info and things quickly sporaled out of hand into childidshness

hope yoiu call that number i left yuou and we hear from you soon and get you and toyr chikldren home

im hoping tomoroew toi have s definate answr to the pa gathering question


also, when you do come home, kid villiage is the best place to camp wit children (or even without if u just want sa very peacefil respectful place,)

just between kid villiage and trade circlke theres plenty to entertain the youth those are the 2 places you find the most kids enjoting theyre day
but believeit or not some even like taking part in councils workshops and helping out in kitchens
my freind chevys girls were most looking forward to helping serve dinner at main circle and entertaining people dancing and singing

unfortunatyely they wernt able to make it that year and hopefuly next year will be theyre 1st

many kids who i know from local family who grew up around rainbow are truly amazing enlightened kids
they really get the rainbow vission and know what iots all abouit even when some of the older folkds forget its funnu sometimes u see kids having to remind the older folks...teminding them to respoect the feather in council.. stiff likethat
1 girl i know id met many years ago when quite yoiung maybe 6 or 8 and to see her overr the years become incrediblre bright and unique far more then the average kid you meet in everyday life ws really interesting..
kids who grow up going to gatherings yar after year tend to be very special indeed..

kisyt so you know..kid villisge isnot a babysitting service youdont wantto just leave your kids there with just anyone and disapea for days at s time..generaly its safe to let them wander and explore within reason but you should always be awaye of where they are and what theyre doing just like they should be awate of where your at.
its not like u cant truyst them yto go to as kitchen aline to eat otrr go to trade circle but it is your rtesponcibilitu noobe elses to keep track of where they are
i know u know that and its commin sence but every yewar u hear of some kid left for days at kid villiage and the parents nowhere to be foiund..
if u camp with some1 u really trst at kid villiage and wish to shgare babysitting duties to give eachother a break to play on ypour own (adult play) thats fine but try to hnoyr your wird as to when you return so u dont leave em wondering where you are for hours
its easy to losr track of tiume when theres no clocks.. so just try to remember toi return within a reasinable time if u do decideto share baysitting


i hope that answers many of your questions anfd concerns
and in hhb;'s anf wanderingturnips deffences they have never actred this way in person at a gathering towards me or any1 im awate of.. i think the anonimity and saftey of hiding behiod aketyboard and foirgetting that people are people makes it easier to disregard feelings

with respect i do love those guys just dont always like theyre actions or well not actions manners of expression would be more precise


as far as i know theyre actions do not reflect that tendency at all..



welcome home sis and famoily look forwartd to seeing you along the trail

[soaringeagle]

ah dragonfly i understasnd just that was never mentioned back then..i got into sa a simpler misunderstanding which i thought we resolved, i at that time said something lkike we should all go because id we allow themn toi scare us away they win.. that was when hhb was going on and on about not going because texas is scary and all and abiout feds planning antio rerrorist raids..
i msde that statement and wandering thought i was calling him directly a coward that was never the cadse or my intention i just wanted to say not to be scared especialy to new rainmbows who read scaru stories and debated not going.

toker i didnt know thats your gf cool i think we have talked beforwe you and i if i remember right hadnt wewe?
its noce to meet the rest of the family

see u at home


wandsering despite what u think i never had a prob with you..a misundersytanding ot 2 ytes but i have tried and will always try to reach an understanding
its easier when u dont throw aroind namne calling and attacks and resport to complaints about spelling..lol

i feel theres no more misunderstanding there so might as well be freinds

hhb well i'll apologize again for any part i had in making you grouchy but theres not alot i can do beyind that
sooner otr later ua just gotta do what u can to getalong with your fellow man or forever be misunderstood and avoided

peace

[poorphucker]

if i use spellcheck will you use meancheck?


LMFAO

[hippiehillbilly]

i like being misunderstood and avoided by the vast majority of "family".. :)

[soaringeagle]

well doesn it make you wonder why youd always be in he face of those you wish to avoid you?
if you want to be avioded the easiest way would be to stay away right?

im not being all childish here and saying go away
im just wonderrin why, if you really have so uch contempt and animosity towards most of family why youd choose to be here i the 1st place


/end communicating with trolls



toker and kate
you know i read all your threads, and despite the impressiuon you may have received here i beieve you and i both know (or hope you still believe and werent totaly discouraged by certain behavior) that a gathering, and becomming involved with family could have a very possitive effect on your lives

ive been going to gatherings since i was19 or 20
and sure wish id found em sooner
know if id been brought to them by my parents when i was young alot of things in my earlier life would have turned out quite different..and much better

being from pa, local family, id be more then happy to put you in touch with good freinds who have been bringing theyre families home for years, theyre kds growing up wth gaherings as a big part of theyre lives
and you could talk to the kids (real kids not so called adults acting like chidren) and get theyre expeiences and juge for yourdselves
when u call the lightline and talk to spauk (ponouncd spock like the vulcan dude) ask if you could talk to glenn and nicky.. glenns oldest daughter after many gatherings spent the last 3 years helping with arrr and the katrina disaster (on youtube look for "waveland cafe" the 2nd vid that says rainbow helps katrina cleanup or whgtevr it says
ad nickys children are really special themselves having grown up with such amazin experienbces beyoind what mosty kids ever get to experience


we love you

again please dont let the behavior u saw here discourage you

when you come home go straight past A-camp drop in atthe ovens for a bite o eat (and say hi if im there) head on down to kid villiage give filipe a hug from me
setup camp thenwander aimlessly havbing yourmind blown by tebeauty the bliss the love and aceptence nd joy


(draginly.. off topic but..would there maybe a homeopathic u cold try to desensatise you to the ivy?.. when i was young got it bad too very..till somone burned some and i got it everywer including throught and lungs. i dont remember what we did about it i was youg.maybe 10 or 12... but from that day on never got it again.
jus wondering.might wanna ask water singing on the rocks bout that)

[hippiehillbilly]

why cant you leave well enough alone?
i will not drag this thread off topic just because you want to jump up on your high fucking horse..

YOU and people like YOU are the EXACT reason why i could give a flip flyin fuck less what the majority of "family" thinks..

please from here on leave me out of this fucking thread..
or will your ego not allow that?
that was a rhetorical question,in other words it is not asked for a response.

once again i have nothing to do with the topic of this thread so i trust my name wont be mentioned further and no further posts will be addressed to me..