The Morning Glory Mystery

[wutthe4k]

How come only some people trip from them and some don't? Yesterday me and two of my friends each took 800 seeds (pearly gates) with the same lemon juice extraction method. I tripped good for like 7 hours or so, one of my friends tripped a little for like 2 hours, and my other friend didn't trip at all. We each threw up three times.

However a few months ago one of my other friends did them with me and we both tripped equally.

I've read online that only some people trip as well. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that people's tolerances vary greatly with LSA.

Any thoughts?

[Magical mystery tourguide]

no because peoples tolerance doesnt vary that much with lsd, im guessing some seeds just dont have alot of lsa and many people dont prepare them right, but its probably neither of these, good question

[PsychedeliaSmith]

MMT, you're quite close to the truth.

The LSA content varies greatly from seed to seed so you could have a very mild or very strong trip from the same amount of seeds. Sometimes you get unlucky and don't get enough LSA to trip at all.

Also, some people are more sensitive to LSA than others.

There's a product called Trip-E which is basically ground up HBWS put in gel caps, most online headshops stock them for about £5 ($10-ish), I find that taking a pack of these will usually make me trip.

[Deranged]

man, puking every time just ruins the high for me. i hate morning glories.

[stalk]

man, puking every time just ruins the high for me. i hate morning glories.


learn to love la purga
(the purge)

[klondike_bar]

if done in CW extraction, the nausea is actually quite bearable, especially with a little bit of weed. it dissapears around 1.5 hours after injestion.

even so, the purge is not overly unpleasent. usually puking burns your throat and makes you feel even worse, but with the lsa purge, it is practically painless and almost instantly heals much of the nausea.

[pandaman]

it's just complete variability in the amount of LSA in the seeds which is true with MG and HBWR. almost all of my LSA experience is from HBWR and i've had totally different experiences with the same dose from the same bag of seeds I purchased.

one time I ate 8 seeds and had almost no effects other than a bit of nausea which was very weird i thought.
then a few nights ago I ate 7 seeds and had an incredible night.
LSA containing substances are very weird.

pandaman

[snocbor]

Try Hawaiian baby woodrose, they contain much more LSA per seed, which means you only have to eat like 5 of them to have pretty substantial effects without the puking.

Look it up..
http://www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/

Peace

[pandaman]

yeah i'd definitely look into HBWR over MG.
less seeds = less hassle
:D

[wutthe4k]

nah HBWR are a bad choice

1) either way, i'd still grind them up and do the extraction cuz it usually eliminates nausea. we drank the shit too fast so it hit our stomaches hard. plus it makes the trip clearer and more fun. so it takes the same amount of time to prepare.

2) with HBWR you have to go through the trouble of scraping off the coating because of it's cyanide properties.

and finally 3) when you order off sites they rip you off with HBWR. one MG seed has i believe roughly .01 mg of LSA while one HBWR seed contains roughly .25 LSA

50 hawaiian HBWR costs the same amount of money as 3000 MG seeds

therefore, with the same amount of money you can either get 12.5 mg of LSA (HBWR) or 30 mg of LSA (MG)

you get more LSA if you choose to purchase the morning glories

[PeaceAndRasta]

nah HBWR are a bad choice

1) either way, i'd still grind them up and do the extraction cuz it usually eliminates nausea. we drank the shit too fast so it hit our stomaches hard. plus it makes the trip clearer and more fun. so it takes the same amount of time to prepare.

2) with HBWR you have to go through the trouble of scraping off the coating because of it's cyanide properties.

and finally 3) when you order off sites they rip you off with HBWR. one MG seed has i believe roughly .01 mg of LSA while one HBWR seed contains roughly .25 LSA

50 hawaiian HBWR costs the same amount of money as 3000 MG seeds

therefore, with the same amount of money you can either get 12.5 mg of LSA (HBWR) or 30 mg of LSA (MG)

you get more LSA if you choose to purchase the morning glories

ya dude but the "makes the trip clearer and more fun." its just mental ....

i think hbwr are way easier and thats what makes it better.
and i dont think u need to scrap the skin off.. it might be mental too...

[wutthe4k]

nah man its a fact that the fuzzy coating contains cyanide

and it really does make the trip clearer and whatnot. it also eliminates fish vision, cramping, and usually nausea. it's a citric acid extraction, not water. unless you leave the powder soaking too long, the citric acid only absorbs the LSA leaving the unwanted chemicals in the powder.

try it =]

grind up your seeds into a powder and let the powder sit in just enough lemon juice for no more or less than 30 minutes, occasionally stirring. you may need to pour a little more lemon juice from time to time because the powder sucks it up. once the time is up, pour your desired drink into the glass (orange juice or something to mix) and give it one last stir. then proceed to strain using a reusable coffee filter. stir using a spoon as it is straining. throw out the gunk, and consume the beverage. not sure about many other drink mixes but when mixed with orange juice you can just barely notice the taste of the seeds. doesn't taste bad at all. just make sure you drink it slowly because your stomache has to get used to it. this is partial key to eliminating nausea. drink it slowly over about 20-30 minutes.

you may get a slight stomache ache at first but as long as you prepared and drank correctly then it will pass in a short amount of time. once the trip starts it is perfectly clear from beginning to end...hard to describe but it's more clearheaded than eating the straight seeds or powder. try using about 800-1000 seeds for a good dose.

as with everything else, if you do feel the need to puke, try your best to hold it in for about 2 hours or so. that will give your body the time it needs to absorb the LSA.


courtesy to Ancient Powers for this extraction method. if it weren't for this, i would have stopped doing morning glories a long time ago. and let me add that i've had some very spiritual experiences on these seeds...even more so than some of my experiences with LSD. thanks, ancient =p

ya dude but the "makes the trip clearer and more fun." its just mental ....

i think hbwr are way easier and thats what makes it better.
and i dont think u need to scrap the skin off.. it might be mental too...

[pushit]

How come only some people trip from them and some don't? Yesterday me and two of my friends each took 800 seeds (pearly gates) with the same lemon juice extraction method. I tripped good for like 7 hours or so, one of my friends tripped a little for like 2 hours, and my other friend didn't trip at all. We each threw up three times.

However a few months ago one of my other friends did them with me and we both tripped equally.

I've read online that only some people trip as well. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that people's tolerances vary greatly with LSA.

Any thoughts?
Well my first time I took 400-1000 seeds of flying saucers and I was tripping for the next 17 hours and had the most amazing things happen, almost a religious experience... I think my spirit animal is a Aztec bird.

[PeaceAndRasta]

Well my first time I took 400-1000 seeds of flying saucers and I was tripping for the next 17 hours and had the most amazing things happen, almost a religious experience... I think my spirit animal is a Aztec bird.

nice! :cool:

[ShanaBanana]

:p