opiateless.. & goin crazy

[kil0]

its been two or three weeks since I've done any oxy and Im starting to think I may be psychologically addicted to oxy, or I just like it ALOT. shit, the last three weeks have been fine because I was smokin herb all day, but now that I gotta flush my system of the THC for a drug test coming up sept. 11.

Now I stopped smoking weed sept. 1st, so this gives me 10 days or so to get clean or I go to prison for 2 years lol.. but no worries, cuz I've learned my body's metabolism. I've passed the same probation drug test with 14 days of being clean and not doing shit, Im assuming I can pass it with 10 days and drinking like a gallon of water a day; and beer like crazy on weekends to help me piss more. Now this is not advice for someone else on probation to quit 10 days before the test because u will probably fail.. you gotta know yourself, and my metabolism is insane so thats why it works for me. I can eat 5 full course meals a day and not gain a pound! Im pretty skinny (150 lbs) and almost 6 ft, so I barely have body fat, and the THC gets stuck in your body fat so that determines how long the THC will stay in your system.

Anways, this thread isnt about the drug test I gotta pass in a week, its about me not being able to find any opiates whatsoever and Im getting desperate..:( its not that im addicted, I only used at most like once a week and can go weeks on end without them. Sometimes when I can buy them I dont because I dont want to. I bet if I had a hookup right now I wouldnt be typing this or buying pks. its just the fact that Im dry and I have no way of getting anything for god knows how long that has me anxious. lol no wonder I been abusing xanax for the last week, eating like 2 bars a day. which is really surprising for me too because I only used xanax weekly as well..

anyways, Im out of bars, but I dont care cuz I know I can get as many as I want whenever I want. but thats not the case with opiates, and thats whats got me "feeling desperate". although Im not really desperate because I have absolutely no cravings or w/d symptoms. I just like the high.

fuck it, I just started my college semester, so Im gonna concentrate on that. but what do you guys do in similar situations? and I could probably get vicodin but thats a waste of money to me, since they have no effect on me..

[stalk]

Well....

you might want to stay away from this stuff for a few months.

Personally,
every few months I like to play with poppies for a week
then I take a few months off...

It's probably not good to be dependent on pills.

[kil0]

are you really 84 and shit, what can I do? I like getting high! Im not addicted, and wont let myself get addicted, and see nothing wrong with recreational use..

[Euphorial]

You could order Kratom, an opium substitute, online: http://www.shamansgarden.com/c-525-all-kratom.aspx

That's what I'm doing right now. You can search for it on erowid to get more details.

I've only done it once at a moderate dose, and it felt like coming up on opiates. However, I did not do enough to continue this feeling for more than about an hour or less. Tomorrow I am planning to do more than I did to see if this really could be the "opium substitute" that I've read about.

[stalk]

Kratom feels much like an opiate to me.
There are different kinds of kratom
some are more speedy, some are more opiate-like
I don't know the differences, though

It always knocks me on my ass and I get rather nauseated until I lay down
then I have some of the best sleep ever and the dreams are wild......

[kil0]

hell yeah, i love sleeping on opiates, one of my favorite parts.

hhmmm, i'll look this kratom shit up, see if its any good. if you try a full dose and it compares to good opiates like opium, oxy, or h, LET ME KNOW ASAP!

and thinking about that makes me think of the most retarded thing i've ever done in my life.... I think I've told this story before. here it is again..

like 2 years back, while I was living in Orlando, one of my good friend's grandma died. Her nurses were trying to flush all her medication, and my dawg said fuck that to the nurse and snatched a bottle of 67 little orange pills before those dumb hoes could throw it away.

anyways, he comes over to my place with a folded paper with 67 OC40's! I didnt know whata fuck that was back then, he just asked me if I knew anyone who likes pills and would buy them. long story short, we sold them for like $90, we just assumed they were like $1-2 each. OMG, if that was to happen today, or if I knew whata fuck those orange pills were and how good they are, I WOULDA BUSTED A NUT WHEN I SAW ALL THOSE OCs! omg i wanna punch someone just thinking about that day. we had no clue we were holding pills that were worth their weight in gold!

[rastapasta]

I like getting high! Im not addicted, and wont let myself get addicted, and see nothing wrong with recreational use..
famous last words
note to self : i really wasnt invincable, go figure.

[kil0]

im dead serious though. i would never let a drug control my life. hell, i dont even let love control my life!

even TooCrisp said it, im like the only person he knows that can sit on hundreds of mgs of oxy for months on end. If I was like some other junkies, I woulda been turned to an addict and been in rehab or jail considering all the drugs I had. I have a lot of self-control.

[Euphorial]

I let you know how the Kratom is soon :cheers2:

That story is very very sad :( That is a lot of fucking oxy.

[RELAYER]

Trust me on the kratom, it's awesome. In fact I like it more than opiates, because with repeat uses spread out over hours, it doesnt get buzzy like opiates do, and your mood doesnt turn sour afterwards. Just as pleasant of an experience, Id grab it before it too becomes illegal, the DEA is well aware of it and moving to close in like with Salvia.

And kil0, my friend, that is addiction. When your mood is affected in a negative way, when you cant just accept life and be happy instantly because your mind is concerned with a drug, that is addiction. You dont need to be physically dependant, your inability to totally enjoy life from the anxiety is addiction. This is something that will take a very, very long time to go away, much longer than physical withdrawl people go through. If you must, use the kratom to substitute but that too is very mentally desireable.
God Bless +

[navajas]

yeah bro its mental addiction, i never got physically addicted to anything, however im mentally addicted to everything, its been a year since i last done drugs but i think about them constantly, tell me how the kratom thing goes, ur an experienced opiate user so i want an opinion from someone like u, i might get some if its worth it...

[RELAYER]

yeah bro its mental addiction, i never got physically addicted to anything, however im mentally addicted to everything, its been a year since i last done drugs but i think about them constantly, tell me how the kratom thing goes, ur an experienced opiate user so i want an opinion from someone like u, i might get some if its worth it...

Take it from me navajas it's awesome lol. I mean of course a broader range of perspectives is nice. I was a daily 120mg + Morphine/Oxycontin user for a long time, tried nearly every opiate under the Sun, most in excess. Kratom feels just like it, though the rush in the beginning is more speedy than opiates are. For me, it's 30 minutes of feeling a burst of energy and euphoria, followed by 4 hours of an opiate like buzz. It is well worth it.

[navajas]

Take it from me navajas it's awesome lol. I mean of course a broader range of perspectives is nice. I was a daily 120mg + Morphine/Oxycontin user for a long time, tried nearly every opiate under the Sun, most in excess. Kratom feels just like it, though the rush in the beginning is more speedy than opiates are. For me, it's 30 minutes of feeling a burst of energy and euphoria, followed by 4 hours of an opiate like buzz. It is well worth it.

WOW! what other legal highs r worth it? cuz like i said i only get high on vacations cuz that way ill never get addicted, when im on vacation i do loads of cocaine and heroin, when im home i do nothing not even pot, but i might try the legal high route now...

[RELAYER]

WOW! what other legal highs r worth it? cuz like i said i only get high on vacations cuz that way ill never get addicted, when im on vacation i do loads of cocaine and heroin, when im home i do nothing not even pot, but i might try the legal high route now...

Honestly none as far as Im concerned. And it depends on where you order the kratom from, and what kind. There are very different experience reports, but mine repeatedly has been wonderful. PM me if you interested

[Euphorial]

Other legal highs that are like Kratom?

Barely any. I searched through a huge database of legal highs and most of them sucked (however I might try smoking catnip once). :rolleyes:

[stalk]

I believe catnip is pheromonal (rather than alkaloidal)
so it would be better just to grow it and be near it, smelling it
or get a fresh cutting and keep it near your bed.

[-beatnick]

dayum son, that sucks. well i can say i was in the same boat at one point. just not being able to forget about that bittersweet powder clogging my nostrils.

breaks help. take at least a month off, smoke your bud, trip maybe, roll, but no coke or opiates. then see how it is.

thats my recommendation.

[navajas]

Other legal highs that are like Kratom?

Barely any. I searched through a huge database of legal highs and most of them sucked (however I might try smoking catnip once). :rolleyes:
dnt bother

[Euphorial]

Honestly, a good way to forget about opiates is to keep yourself busy. For instance, I would probably just push myself to play guitar ALL day if I needed to stay away from them. I could also read about something INTERESTING (don't just fucking read a bad novel), watch a ton of South Park & Family Guy, get temporarily obsessed with energy drinks and caffeine, and learn to meditate.

If you want anymore ideas just ask lol, but I should be getting kratom later today anyway, so I can report on that.

[CSU_Student]

I just ordered some katrom, the 15x, so I'll report on it when I get and try it on Monday night... :)

Oh, and BTW, the store mentioned earlier (something's Garden) is where I ordered, within an hour from ordering I got the Fedex tracking number (valid number too, it says its delivering on Monday), and email confirmation!

[TooCrisp]

its been two or three weeks since I've done any oxy and Im starting to think I may be psychologically addicted to oxy, or I just like it ALOT. shit, the last three weeks have been fine because I was smokin herb all day, but now that I gotta flush my system of the THC for a drug test coming up sept. 11.

Now I stopped smoking weed sept. 1st, so this gives me 10 days or so to get clean or I go to prison for 2 years lol.. but no worries, cuz I've learned my body's metabolism. I've passed the same probation drug test with 14 days of being clean and not doing shit, Im assuming I can pass it with 10 days and drinking like a gallon of water a day; and beer like crazy on weekends to help me piss more. Now this is not advice for someone else on probation to quit 10 days before the test because u will probably fail.. you gotta know yourself, and my metabolism is insane so thats why it works for me. I can eat 5 full course meals a day and not gain a pound! Im pretty skinny (150 lbs) and almost 6 ft, so I barely have body fat, and the THC gets stuck in your body fat so that determines how long the THC will stay in your system.

Anways, this thread isnt about the drug test I gotta pass in a week, its about me not being able to find any opiates whatsoever and Im getting desperate..:( its not that im addicted, I only used at most like once a week and can go weeks on end without them. Sometimes when I can buy them I dont because I dont want to. I bet if I had a hookup right now I wouldnt be typing this or buying pks. its just the fact that Im dry and I have no way of getting anything for god knows how long that has me anxious. lol no wonder I been abusing xanax for the last week, eating like 2 bars a day. which is really surprising for me too because I only used xanax weekly as well..

anyways, Im out of bars, but I dont care cuz I know I can get as many as I want whenever I want. but thats not the case with opiates, and thats whats got me "feeling desperate". although Im not really desperate because I have absolutely no cravings or w/d symptoms. I just like the high.

fuck it, I just started my college semester, so Im gonna concentrate on that. but what do you guys do in similar situations? and I could probably get vicodin but thats a waste of money to me, since they have no effect on me..


kilO you're one of my favorite posters on this board, but not very bright of you to smoke 10 days before your test that if you fail you go to jail for 2 years. You should've quit at least 1.5 -2 months in advance so there was zero chance of testing positive. Man depending how much you smoke weed can stay in your fat tissues for over a month. 10 days is really really scary. I guess you know your body and think you'll be fine, and ill take ur word for it, but come on. Weed's good but not THAT good to put any chance whatsoever of spending 2 years in prison and essentially ruining your future life. 9/11 aint the luckiest day to have it on either..i've read many of your posts and i know your smarter than that bro. ill be hoping it works out for you.

as for the opiates, as the saying goes you want what you can't have. but for me with opiates, its the other way around. if i know i cant get them or there not easy to get, i dont really crave them at all. its when i can get them that i really want them. your apparently the opposite of me, and if i were you i would chill with the xanax. that stuff is worse to abuse than opiates.

dont touch a drug until after 9/11, by then maybe one of your boys will have some oxy for you to enjoy with the weed. if not, oh well..itll eventually come around it always does. i'd chill with the xanax tho.

good luck brotha!

[Euphorial]

I'm getting the Kratom tomorrow :mad:

I expected it today, but it wasn't processed in Chicago until yesterday. Last time it took 2 days after that to be delivered, so tomorrow is a good 95% chance.

The site is: http://www.shamansgarden.com (http://www.shamansgarden.com/)

Plenty of cool things on there, including plants that you can buy to extract DMT from :cheers2:

Right now Kratom seems cool because FIRST off, it comes in a ton of different forms (leaves, powdered leaves, powdered extract, liquid extract, tar, full plants, etc). Also, when I did a terrible job of making the tea the effects were still very nice at a low dose (definitely opiate-like). Last, its legal!

[sam&ella]

I'm getting the Kratom tomorrow :mad:

I expected it today, but it wasn't processed in Chicago until yesterday. Last time it took 2 days after that to be delivered, so tomorrow is a good 95% chance.

The site is: http://www.shamansgarden.com (http://www.shamansgarden.com/)

Plenty of cool things on there, including plants that you can buy to extract DMT from :cheers2:

Right now Kratom seems cool because FIRST off, it comes in a ton of different forms (leaves, powdered leaves, powdered extract, liquid extract, tar, full plants, etc). Also, when I did a terrible job of making the tea the effects were still very nice at a low dose (definitely opiate-like). Last, its legal!
only link?

[Euphorial]

Why would you need a different link? Is that one not working for you? It just worked for me.

If you want a specific one for the Kratom, you don't need one. Just search for "Kratom" and then choose to view ALL the Kratom items.

If this doesn't decipher what you said then ask again. :)

[sw0o0sh]

Look at your life with a sense of humor. Stop equating happiness with being high. Happiness is a shallow thing anyway. Try something. Be the person who sobered up and enjoyed the benefits. Or, be like every one else and just keep digging the hole deeper. There isn't really much more to it than that.

Everybody makes bullshit excuses as to why they relapsed, point is, they didn't quit. everytime will be the last time. Nobody is going to want to quit their addiction. They are addicted. It's a matter of being reasonable and seeing when the move just needs to be made. Weigh out the good and the bad.

I'd wish you luck but it seems almost everyone who hits that point with opiates isn't really going to turn back. The taste just seems to be too much for certain people to handle.

Break a leg! Lol. Oh wait, na, then you might get prescribed somethin.

[stalk]

Opiates are just too good...

IMO, you have to learn how to moderate yourself.

[kil0]

^ I agree.

and crisp, thanks for the know I should have stopped earlier, but i kept smokin cuz it was my birthday on august 23, and i had a week long celebration for my 21st birthday.

damn, im drinking water like crazy, i gotta piss like racehorse every 15 minutes!

How much was the kratom? and how many times can you get high off it?

[Euphorial]

I will definitely give you a report on the liquid Kratom tomorrow. I still have no idea what the dosages are, but my friend and I make a good team for figuring that stuff out. 9 dollars for at least two doses of a legal opiate-like high? Yes, sir!

I've had some :cheers2: tonight. That makes the fourth or fifth time I've gotten drunk since the beginning of summer.

[RELAYER]

only link?

Thats the sister site where I order from. I didnt know they had liquid extract, Im definitley trying that! :)

[The Stig]

its been two or three weeks since I've done any oxy and Im starting to think I may be psychologically addicted to oxy, or I just like it ALOT. shit, the last three weeks have been fine because I was smokin herb all day, but now that I gotta flush my system of the THC for a drug test coming up sept. 11.

Now I stopped smoking weed sept. 1st, so this gives me 10 days or so to get clean or I go to prison for 2 years lol.. but no worries, cuz I've learned my body's metabolism. I've passed the same probation drug test with 14 days of being clean and not doing shit, Im assuming I can pass it with 10 days and drinking like a gallon of water a day; and beer like crazy on weekends to help me piss more. Now this is not advice for someone else on probation to quit 10 days before the test because u will probably fail.. you gotta know yourself, and my metabolism is insane so thats why it works for me. I can eat 5 full course meals a day and not gain a pound! Im pretty skinny (150 lbs) and almost 6 ft, so I barely have body fat, and the THC gets stuck in your body fat so that determines how long the THC will stay in your system.

Anways, this thread isnt about the drug test I gotta pass in a week, its about me not being able to find any opiates whatsoever and Im getting desperate..:( its not that im addicted, I only used at most like once a week and can go weeks on end without them. Sometimes when I can buy them I dont because I dont want to. I bet if I had a hookup right now I wouldnt be typing this or buying pks. its just the fact that Im dry and I have no way of getting anything for god knows how long that has me anxious. lol no wonder I been abusing xanax for the last week, eating like 2 bars a day. which is really surprising for me too because I only used xanax weekly as well..

anyways, Im out of bars, but I dont care cuz I know I can get as many as I want whenever I want. but thats not the case with opiates, and thats whats got me "feeling desperate". although Im not really desperate because I have absolutely no cravings or w/d symptoms. I just like the high.

fuck it, I just started my college semester, so Im gonna concentrate on that. but what do you guys do in similar situations? and I could probably get vicodin but thats a waste of money to me, since they have no effect on me..

Drinking water this far in advance of a test is pointless, it doesn't clean out your system. Only point in heavy water consumption is the day before the test and that's to dilute your sample it will never actually cleanse it. Of course then you run the risk of peeing a clear or overly dilute sample in which case you will need to test again or they can fail you on the spot. Right now you are just wasting water and unnecessary pain.

Also, I've read a lot of your posts and it seems you are constantly asserting that you are not addicted and would never let a drug control your life. That's a great mindset to have and an admirable goal. But no one "let's" the drug control them, it is not a voluntary surrender. If you are of the personality type which likes or has an affinity to these drugs (you are) the potential for addiction is there, regardless of how much you tell yourself you will not allow it to happen. It happens slowly, subtly and is completely beyond your conscious control. Your brain chemistry is literally changing and eventually you will realize it is to late and the changes have been made. You constantly shun this advice and say "not me" and that you only enjoy them but could never let them take over your functionality. But please listen to me this time, you are not strong enough to play with this fire and keep yourself from getting burned. I think on a certain level you know you are in trouble, and your posts here are a form of reassuring yourself and turning a deaf ear to advice from more experienced people who say what you do not want to hear.

I'm not trying to preach, I'm not flaming you or saying you are weak or stupid. But, you have a gross misconception of the nature of opiate addiction and how it gets its claws into people. This is incredibly common and is the classic first steps towards the escalation of the problem. I'm not saying don't use, because you are not yet done having fun and there is nothing wrong with that. But as you continue your use please be honest with yourself, and rather than repeating the mantra of "i would never let that happen to me" be self aware of your use and your thought patterns concerning the drug and the aspects of your life it affects. There's a small chance you may have no problem and that you can maintain control while still continuing semi-regular use. But you must surely know there is a much greater chance that your control and ability to self-regulate are sandbags trying to hold back a tidal wave and it's eventually going to be beyond your control. So think more about how you view this, and really listen... and i mean BELIEVE what people tell you about this. Because these are words coming from people who have been in your position, and had the same beliefs that you do. They are not weak people, they have just seen it happen and are able to know more than you that certain things are an inevitability.

[kil0]

Sun, again, some of you guys just dont understand how strong minded I am. Im a mathematics/engineering major who graduated high school with 2 prizes in mathematics and a 4-year scholarship to any university in florida. Im like Einstein 150TIMES magnified, Nikola Tesla, and Jon Von Neumann; all wrapped up in a body in one human. lol got that from canibus.

but seriously, i had the Theorem, way before Pythagoras!

LOL, but the truth of the matter is that Im not addicted, but opiates are so damn good I cant help but fuck with them alteast monthly. I found my life's 4th partner, besides knowledge, weed, and LSD. I dont think I'll ever stop, but I would slow down dramatically over the years. Im not gonna be smokin weed like I smoke now when Im 60 but I certainly will be blazing like once a year heheh.

Drinking water this far in advance of a test is pointless, it doesn't clean out your system. Only point in heavy water consumption is the day before the test and that's to dilute your sample it will never actually cleanse it. Of course then you run the risk of peeing a clear or overly dilute sample in which case you will need to test again or they can fail you on the spot. Right now you are just wasting water and unnecessary pain.

are you serious? I thought drinkin water helped you get clean faster too, besides diluting your piss.. if not, how can i get clean faster!?!?!?

[kil0]

someone help me out pleaze!!!

[navajas]

someone help me out pleaze!!!
Theres nothing u could do but pray, that is if u believe in god, i dnt... water wont do shit... kilo ur one of my favourite members here, why would someone as intelligent as u, a math genius, with a bright future ahead of him, smoke 10 days b4 a test, n risk goin to jail? sorry if my question pissed u off, i didnt mean to, i really wanna know what were u thinkin? did u try that detox shit they sell in head shops? dunno if it works, but i remember seein sumthin like that... why dnt u put someones piss in a syringe, hide it sumwhere, n when they ask u to piss grab the syringe n squirt the piss in the cup, i aint jokin, im just tryin to come up with solutions here, never been tested, dunno how it goes...

[Guitar]

I had to take a piss test for a job recently, and I used a whizzinator , worked perfectly, the synthetic piss worked fine in the lab, you can also use clean piss if your sketched about the synthetic shit. Also, the Stig I agreed with everything you said for the most part, addiction doesn't discriminate, it can happen to anyone.

[Euphorial]

I would google for detox formulas that you can order/purchase.

Also, tomorrow I am going to try taking about half of one of those 30ml Kratom bottles. I took some tonight, but the effects were minimal. Half of the bottle seems about right now that I've actually dosed from the bottle.

[salmon4me]

Water works. About 1.5 gallons the night before. Don't overdue it, you could die.

[Acid Man]

Just take some acid.

Or simply ask for a mouth swab test, weed is only detectable for approximately 72 hours via saliva

But don't go smoking until after!

[kil0]

listen guys, i know I fucked up because I was so damn excited about about turning 21 that I over did it...

but for now, my plan is exercising a lot and drinking lots of water for the next couple of days. Then like a day or two before the test, Im gonna buy one of those walgreens/cvs home drug test kits and test myself. Now there will be two options:

I pass the test! which is awsome because thats the great thing about the type of drug tests I get at my probation office. they dont seal them up and send them to a lab, I would be shitting bricks if it was like that. They use cheap little test that look almost exactly like the ones you buy at walgreens. The ones that you piss in a cup, then take a dropper and drop 2 or 3 drops of piss into the test. The cut-off levels are so small I snorted some coke like 2 days before the similar test and passed. If this is the case, then Im good 2 go to take the test.
I fail the test! then Im fucked and I gotta go buy one of those detox kits.... god I hope not...

[kil0]

*BUMP*
^read above post.

" am interested in mathematics only as a creative art. "

[Freedom_Man]

are you the dude who just starting take percs a while b ack man?

damn you got into that fast.

[kil0]

***UPDATE***

I might have a new hookup for OCs and percs! Hopefully im not opiateless for much longer =)

[kil0]

are you the dude who just starting take percs a while b ack man?

damn you got into that fast.

nah man. you got the wrong guy. I only got percs once in my life. i fuck wit dat oxycontin occasionally.

[kil0]

listen guys, i know I fucked up because I was so damn excited about about turning 21 that I over did it...



but for now, my plan is exercising a lot and drinking lots of water for the next couple of days. Then like a day or two before the test, Im gonna buy one of those walgreens/cvs home drug test kits and test myself. Now there will be two options:
I pass the test! which is awsome because thats the great thing about the type of drug tests I get at my probation office. they dont seal them up and send them to a lab, I would be shitting bricks if it was like that. They use cheap little test that look almost exactly like the ones you buy at walgreens. The ones that you piss in a cup, then take a dropper and drop 2 or 3 drops of piss into the test. The cut-off levels are so small I snorted some coke like 2 days before the similar test and passed. If this is the case, then Im good 2 go to take the test.
I fail the test! then Im fucked and I gotta go buy one of those detox kits.... god I hope not...

[Freedom_Man]

i got you wrong man my bad. even if you were i didnt mean any offense by it. no judging, i was just curious.

[kil0]

no problem god, its c0ol. :)

[Euphorial]

You still want the info on my Kratom adventure today? Or do you think your set with the opie hook-up?

[kil0]

yeah, give us a full erowid exp. report! :)

but someone comment on my plan for my upcoming drug test please!

[navajas]

glad u found an oxy hook up ;) take it easy though bro...

[kil0]

listen guys, i know I fucked up because I was so damn excited about about turning 21 that I over did it...




but for now, my plan is exercising a lot and drinking lots of water for the next couple of days. Then like a day or two before the test, Im gonna buy one of those walgreens/cvs home drug test kits and test myself. Now there will be two options:
I pass the test! which is awsome because thats the great thing about the type of drug tests I get at my probation office. they dont seal them up and send them to a lab, I would be shitting bricks if it was like that. They use cheap little test that look almost exactly like the ones you buy at walgreens. The ones that you piss in a cup, then take a dropper and drop 2 or 3 drops of piss into the test. The cut-off levels are so small I snorted some coke like 2 days before the similar test and passed. If this is the case, then Im good 2 go to take the test.
I fail the test! then Im fucked and I gotta go buy one of those detox kits.... god I hope not...

what do you think about my plan?

[navajas]

listen guys, i know I fucked up because I was so damn excited about about turning 21 that I over did it...





but for now, my plan is exercising a lot and drinking lots of water for the next couple of days. Then like a day or two before the test, Im gonna buy one of those walgreens/cvs home drug test kits and test myself. Now there will be two options:
I pass the test! which is awsome because thats the great thing about the type of drug tests I get at my probation office. they dont seal them up and send them to a lab, I would be shitting bricks if it was like that. They use cheap little test that look almost exactly like the ones you buy at walgreens. The ones that you piss in a cup, then take a dropper and drop 2 or 3 drops of piss into the test. The cut-off levels are so small I snorted some coke like 2 days before the similar test and passed. If this is the case, then Im good 2 go to take the test.
I fail the test! then Im fucked and I gotta go buy one of those detox kits.... god I hope not...
what do you think about my plan?
man cnt u just use someone elses piss like they do in the movies? or do they follow u to the bathroom n make sure YOU piss in the cup? like i said why not hide asyringe without a needle with clean piss in it, n squirt it in the cup as if ur pissing? i knw its kinda disgusting, but not as disgusting as goin to jail...

[kil0]

I cannot cheat the drug test, its observed. I need to clean out my system ASAP!

[Euphorial]

You should definitely find someone elses urine... find an easy way to hide it (in a vile or syringe).

If you have long hair, put it in a pony-tail, and hide the vile/syringe right where you put the band around your hair (basically surrounding it in hair).

That seems to be the only choice right now. Anyone's piss will do.

Good luck, kil0.

[sam&ella]

Suggestion: Get your ass to a walk in clinic, get the doc to prescribe anything with an opiate (cough syrup).

[kil0]

You should definitely find someone elses urine... find an easy way to hide it (in a vile or syringe).

If you have long hair, put it in a pony-tail, and hide the vile/syringe right where you put the band around your hair (basically surrounding it in hair).

That seems to be the only choice right now. Anyone's piss will do.

Good luck, kil0.

I cannot cheat the drug test, its observed. I need to clean out my system ASAP!

good looks though..

[Euphorial]

This was a little disappointing, but I'll post it anyway:

Amount: about 15ml of liquid 5x extract.

0:00 – Kratom consumed (over the course of 5 minutes [tastes like shit, mixed with green tea])

0:15 – Effects are minimal, a pleasant little buzz.

0:30 – Effects have increased to some extent. There is definitely a mild opiate quality. It is more like opiates than anything else, but it is not very strong right now.

0:40 – Nothing has really changed. There is an apparent mood lift that kratom gives you, and it would be great while you’re out doing something. Right now I’d say this is equivalent to about 15mg of hydrocodone for me, because hydrocodone barely affects me. I have a natural high tolerance that makes it impossible for me to “peak” on hydrocodone. I’d probably have to take a lethal dose in order to get really high off of it.

1:00 – Effects have increased slightly. It’s nice to know that I probably haven’t hit the peak, as I read most feel it about 1.5 hours in. I am more sedated and spacey. Still, I would say that this feeling only qualifies as a mildly recreational.

1:16 – I barely feel it now. I assume it will probably be over within the next 30 mins.

I will probably do Kratom again, but I’ll have to pick a dose that will actually do something.

OTHER TOPIC: kil0, why can't you beat the drug test with other urine? Do they make 100% sure that you aren't hiding anything?

[kil0]

they watch me take a piss. I go in the bathroom and my P.O. stands by the door and watches me piss. there's a little circular mirror next to the toilet where he watches to make sure you dont tamper with the urine or cheat or whatever.

[Euphorial]

Fuck, man. :(

I'll do some research online and ask around. I'm sure there are some pretty good methods that have been developed for cleaning out your system.

[kil0]

Im just gonna drink mad water, and 2 days before the test Im gonna buy a home drug test kit and test myself. If Im positive, Im gonna haveta buy the detox drink or the pills... and I hear that shit's expensive, like $40 bucks I believe..

[Guitar]

Use the whizzinator man, worked for me. Its a fake dick so even if there watching, itll work. My friend was on probation for 18 months and was dirty for at least 6 of them. I used it to and it worke.d

[navajas]

Use the whizzinator man, worked for me. Its a fake dick so even if there watching, itll work. My friend was on probation for 18 months and was dirty for at least 6 of them. I used it to and it worke.d

LMFAO! is there really such a thing?!?! how real can a fake cock look like?

[RELAYER]

There is no way to detox before a drug test. Your either clean or your not. Drinking water to mask the results works with the cups, Im on parole myself and do it every month. 2 hours before your test, drink ungodly amounts of water, way past the point of your stomach hurting. Pee as much as possible, until you get to the point that you have to pee every 10 minutes without drinking more. Once you get to that state, drink one more big cup 30 minutes before your test, and hold it. That will be mostly water in the cup, and the cutoff levels will not detect the substances due to your body expelling the most immediate inhabitant, water. That is the only way I found to pass every month for over a year, on many, many chemicals, with no problem. My PO watches me pee too, so Im in the same boat.
God Bless +

[kil0]

good advice relayer, thanks.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

There is no way to detox before a drug test. Your either clean or your not. Drinking water to mask the results works with the cups, Im on parole myself and do it every month. 2 hours before your test, drink ungodly amounts of water, way past the point of your stomach hurting. Pee as much as possible, until you get to the point that you have to pee every 10 minutes without drinking more. Once you get to that state, drink one more big cup 30 minutes before your test, and hold it. That will be mostly water in the cup, and the cutoff levels will not detect the substances due to your body expelling the most immediate inhabitant, water. That is the only way I found to pass every month for over a year, on many, many chemicals, with no problem. My PO watches me pee too, so Im in the same boat.
God Bless +

I am sorry, but I HAD to reply to this. I have been lurking for the past couple of months, and finally, this post made me decide to start up an account.

This is possibly the WORST advice, I have EVER seen one human, give to another, ever.

First of all, drinking UNGODLY amounts of water, is VERY dangerous to your health, especially if you keep drinking PAST when your stomach is hurting. Apparently this kid hasn't heard of Water Intoxication.

For the lazy people, here is a wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

Drinking massive amounts of water, and pissing A LOT in a short amount of time, is VERY harmful to your body, and you can, and will kill yourself.

Secondly, drinking so much water that your piss is basically clear (water) will NOT fly on a probation drug test. I am amused that someone on "parole" posted this information. Anybody who has been on probation before knows, that if you try and pull some retarded shit like that, they will either A: Fail you on the spot, because it's painfully obvious you were trying to mask it, or if you are lucky, B: Make you retest in a couple of hours, to make sure your piss isn't diluted.

I am seriously appalled that someone posted this fucking HORRIBLE, DANGEROUS information, not only to your health, but to your LIFE, as this is not the "sure-fire way" to pass a drug test. Trust me, kids have been trying this for 10+ years, they have caught onto this, and it WILL NOT FLY.

Also, kil0, I wanted to make sure I posted this to you, because you are one of the reasons I stay lurking around these forums, it's hard to find educated drug users these days, and it's always good to see fellow safe users.

Keep yo head up man, and good luck.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

LMFAO! is there really such a thing?!?! how real can a fake cock look like?

Pretty damn real:

http://www.whizzinator.com/whiz2.htm

[Euphorial]

:eek: that contraption is LOL.

And yes, water intoxication is dangerous, and POs will surely have caught on by now. The whizzinator might be an option, as long as you don't have to get absolutely naked in front of them.

[navajas]

Pretty damn real:

http://www.whizzinator.com/whiz2.htm

this fuckin works...

[RELAYER]

I am sorry, but I HAD to reply to this. I have been lurking for the past couple of months, and finally, this post made me decide to start up an account.

This is possibly the WORST advice, I have EVER seen one human, give to another, ever.

First of all, drinking UNGODLY amounts of water, is VERY dangerous to your health, especially if you keep drinking PAST when your stomach is hurting. Apparently this kid hasn't heard of Water Intoxication.

For the lazy people, here is a wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

Drinking massive amounts of water, and pissing A LOT in a short amount of time, is VERY harmful to your body, and you can, and will kill yourself.

Secondly, drinking so much water that your piss is basically clear (water) will NOT fly on a probation drug test. I am amused that someone on "parole" posted this information. Anybody who has been on probation before knows, that if you try and pull some retarded shit like that, they will either A: Fail you on the spot, because it's painfully obvious you were trying to mask it, or if you are lucky, B: Make you retest in a couple of hours, to make sure your piss isn't diluted.

I am seriously appalled that someone posted this fucking HORRIBLE, DANGEROUS information, not only to your health, but to your LIFE, as this is not the "sure-fire way" to pass a drug test. Trust me, kids have been trying this for 10+ years, they have caught onto this, and it WILL NOT FLY.

Also, kil0, I wanted to make sure I posted this to you, because you are one of the reasons I stay lurking around these forums, it's hard to find educated drug users these days, and it's always good to see fellow safe users.

Keep yo head up man, and good luck.

Lol dude if you are concerned with obvious dilution, drink a fucking red bull after the water. And if someone is seriously dumb enough to intoxicate themselves with water, then that is just sad. Get over yourself and your assumptions. If you dont believe me that's fine, Im simply testifying to what's worked for me without fail for over a year, in more than one state. Nobody ever said this is a sure fire way, so you can stop putting words in mouth as well. I said there is no way to detox THC, and when your PO watches you piss by your side, this is your only hope besides not acting like a fucking retard and smoking so close to your test.
So shut the fuck up, get your dick out of your ass, and stop acting like you know everything because I know from my own experience, I've been locked up just like Kil0 several times. What I gave is not fucking HORRIBLE advice, its called commone fucking SENSE, and if you damage your body by drinking too much water, then you have a lot to learn and should not be messing with drugs and your apparently undeserved freedom in the first place.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

You told him to drink water well past the point where his stomach hurts, and THEN drink some more.

Give me a break kid.

I am not even going to waste time on this anymore, because another member already backed up my post. As long as he doesn't follow your advice I am happy.

[RELAYER]

You told him to drink water well past the point where his stomach hurts, and THEN drink some more.

Give me a break kid.

I am not even going to waste time on this anymore, because another member already backed up my post. As long as he doesn't follow your advice I am happy.

Wonderful! Now lets hold hands and dance until we can all score some more dope :)

[kil0]

LOL @ the whizzinator.

anyways, its the moment of truth today. In an hour or so Im gonna test myself to see just how fast my system gets clean (see if I could be my record of 14 days flat) and see if I gotta go buy a detox drink. Or I might as well buy a whizzinator and smoke calmly everyday, knowing I'll pass all my drug tests. That whizzinator shit would definitely work.

anyways, I've drank like half a gallon of water, and we'll see what happens. For the real test in two days, if I could pass it by diluting my piss, Im gonna buy some vitamin B pills to make my piss yellow because last time my P.O. questioned me about it. Although I already explained to him that I HAVE TO drink a lot of water before the test or he would have to wait forever for me to piss. he understood. I'lllet yall know how it goes.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

LOL @ the whizzinator.

anyways, its the moment of truth today. In an hour or so Im gonna test myself to see just how fast my system gets clean (see if I could be my record of 14 days flat) and see if I gotta go buy a detox drink. Or I might as well buy a whizzinator and smoke calmly everyday, knowing I'll pass all my drug tests. That whizzinator shit would definitely work.

anyways, I've drank like half a gallon of water, and we'll see what happens. For the real test in two days, if I could pass it by diluting my piss, Im gonna buy some vitamin B pills to make my piss yellow because last time my P.O. questioned me about it. Although I already explained to him that I HAVE TO drink a lot of water before the test or he would have to wait forever for me to piss. he understood. I'lllet yall know how it goes.

Yeah, the whizzinator def. works, I have a friend who uses it every single month, and his P.O. watches him as well. He uses a friends piss though, he doesn't buy the synthetic urine, so I can't comment on if that works or not, but according to the site, it is guaranteed.

Good luck, I am hoping nothing but the best for ya bro.

If ya need to talk, hit me on aim. iiu4iaii

[explorer83]

I whole-heartedly recommend Vail Triple-strength Detox drink. I have used it personally after smoking then randomly getting a job interview the next day and had to take a test ~6 days after smoking. It wouldn't have been the end of the world, but I wanted the job. A friend had used the product, too. It's the shit. If you follow the directions I gurantee you to pass. You can get it at headshops or online.

[kil0]

thanks explorer. yo, I passed the test, but idk how well I REALLY did becauseI still think its questionable. I took the test that has two lines, the THC and control lines. If two lines show up, its a negative test result, and if only the control line shows up its a positive. So I passed the test, it had two lines, but the THC line was very faint and light compared to the control line that was much darker. The same happened a few months back and I took the real test and passed, but right now Im pushing it to the limit.

I havent smoked since labor day, September 1st, and imagine, I was smoking everyday, and most days a few times a day, for two almost 3 weeks prior to stopping! its fucking amazing if you ask me, I guess I do have a very fast metabolism and am very lucky Im skinny so that shit doesnt get stuck in my fat cells, because 8-9 days of being clean after smoking daily for almost 3 weeks is an incredibly short amount of time.

even though I passed the test thank god, Im still a bit worried. Not as much as earlier today as you can imagine, I have more peace of mind knowing I passed the test, but no where near 100%. More like I have 60%.. and thats not enough to me really. But its a lot higher than this mourning when it was like 1 percent. I thought I was still dirty as hell because all the weed I smoked on my birthday.

I still got all of tomorrow to drink mad water, and I wanted to excercise although I read that excercising before the test is good but not right before the test because it burns your fat making it go into your bloodstream and out of your body thru your urine. makes sense. So the test is thursday, so if Im clean today Im gonna be cleaner thursday. what do you fellas think?

[navajas]

thanks explorer. yo, I passed the test, but idk how well I REALLY did becauseI still think its questionable. I took the test that has two lines, the THC and control lines. If two lines show up, its a negative test result, and if only the control line shows up its a positive. So I passed the test, it had two lines, but the THC line was very faint and light compared to the control line that was much darker. The same happened a few months back and I took the real test and passed, but right now Im pushing it to the limit.

I havent smoked since labor day, September 1st, and imagine, I was smoking everyday, and most days a few times a day, for two almost 3 weeks prior to stopping! its fucking amazing if you ask me, I guess I do have a very fast metabolism and am very lucky Im skinny so that shit doesnt get stuck in my fat cells, because 8-9 days of being clean after smoking daily for almost 3 weeks is an incredibly short amount of time.

even though I passed the test thank god, Im still a bit worried. Not as much as earlier today as you can imagine, I have more peace of mind knowing I passed the test, but no where near 100%. More like I have 60%.. and thats not enough to me really. But its a lot higher than this mourning when it was like 1 percent. I thought I was still dirty as hell because all the weed I smoked on my birthday.

I still got all of tomorrow to drink mad water, and I wanted to excercise although I read that excercising before the test is good but not right before the test because it burns your fat making it go into your bloodstream and out of your body thru your urine. makes sense. So the test is thursday, so if Im clean today Im gonna be cleaner thursday. what do you fellas think?

even if u passed the test just get the whizzinator for fun lol... it would be a funny story to tell to people about how u passed that shit using a fake cock...

[Euphorial]

You are surprisingly lucky, kil0. That's amazing that there is a legitimate chance to pass cleanly.

However, I've never been tested, and I really don't know how my own/others bodies generally work. It sounds like your on a good path right now, but just remember this in the future, man! You could have saved so much anxiety and trouble :cheers2:

I'd give the test another go a few hours after exercising and drinking plenty of water (or redbull or whatever).

[Guitar]

thanks explorer. yo, I passed the test, but idk how well I REALLY did becauseI still think its questionable. I took the test that has two lines, the THC and control lines. If two lines show up, its a negative test result, and if only the control line shows up its a positive. So I passed the test, it had two lines, but the THC line was very faint and light compared to the control line that was much darker. The same happened a few months back and I took the real test and passed, but right now Im pushing it to the limit.

I havent smoked since labor day, September 1st, and imagine, I was smoking everyday, and most days a few times a day, for two almost 3 weeks prior to stopping! its fucking amazing if you ask me, I guess I do have a very fast metabolism and am very lucky Im skinny so that shit doesnt get stuck in my fat cells, because 8-9 days of being clean after smoking daily for almost 3 weeks is an incredibly short amount of time.

even though I passed the test thank god, Im still a bit worried. Not as much as earlier today as you can imagine, I have more peace of mind knowing I passed the test, but no where near 100%. More like I have 60%.. and thats not enough to me really. But its a lot higher than this mourning when it was like 1 percent. I thought I was still dirty as hell because all the weed I smoked on my birthday.

I still got all of tomorrow to drink mad water, and I wanted to excercise although I read that excercising before the test is good but not right before the test because it burns your fat making it go into your bloodstream and out of your body thru your urine. makes sense. So the test is thursday, so if Im clean today Im gonna be cleaner thursday. what do you fellas think?

im tellin ya, order the whizzinator, you can get blazed as much as you want if you have that shit, worked for me and my friend.

[kil0]

Im actually considering it. But if I ordered it now it still wouldnt make it to me by the test, so I'd still have to buy the drink..

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Overnight that shit.

:P

[jo_k_er_man]

I'd totally share with ya if i could...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/jo_k_er_man/DSCF2348.jpg

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Is that a roxi? Or an 80 or what?

[jo_k_er_man]

dilly.. 8mg.. 4mg cut up...

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Ohh.

Hydromorphone never did anything for me, orally or insuffalated. I did 24mg over the course of a few hours up my nose, and felt nothing more then maybe lower end oxycodone high.

[Guitar]

Yea same I did 24 mgs throughout the day on sunday, I felt allright, but I 'd honestly have 40 mgs of oxy. I don't know why though, its suppose to be a strong opiate. All my friends were the same way that it didnt affect them much.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

This has something to do with it:

Hydromorphone

Bioavailability Oral: 30–35%, Intranasal: 52–58%

Half life 2–3 hours

It is REALLY short acting, and the bioavailability is horrible unless it's IV'ed.

This info was taken from:

http://palladone.legalview.com/wikipedia/Palladone/

[jo_k_er_man]

different strokes for different folks.. i've only done oc twice.. low dose.. 4mg of dilly had me in a light nod.. im not all gung ho like a lot of these folks who say dilly dont do anything for them.. but then again they are snorting 80-120mg of oxy or on the H.. just like some people love codeine.. that shit dont do nothin for me ever.. shit.. vikes still give me a good buzz.. im happy that they do too.. means i havent built up tolerance to them.. i don't endulge in these things.. its just a perk every now and then..

[jo_k_er_man]

makes me also wonder then if certain dilaudid have binders in them to lessen the abuse factor of them

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Hydromorphone is supposed to be a very strong opiate....I would think 24mg would have had me feeling SOMETHING, but I didn't feel a thing. Also, this was back about a year ago, when my Oxycodone dose was only about 80mg.

From what I have mostly heard, Hydromorphone really shines when IV'ed, with other ROA you shouldn't expect much. I have heard this from quite a few people, so it seems to be a general consensus when it comes to this drug, from everyone I know anyways.

If you can get a good high from it though, more power to ya! Making others like me jealous, because those little bastards are sooo cheap on the street.

[jo_k_er_man]

^^^ no one around here knew what they were exactly.. so i got rid of them for 15/8mg...

also... every drug shines when IV'ed compared to any other ROA

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Obviously, but I am saying that nobody I know has ever gotten anything but a light light opiate high when taking even large amounts of Hydromorphone, orally or up the nose. What I meant about shining, I guess I should have said that basically I mean Hydromorphone doesn't provide the strong desired effects that oxycodone users are looking for, unless IV'ed.

24mg of Hydromorphone felt like maybe 40mg of Oxycodone. As I said before, this has held true for everyone I know, and now other people on this forum are backing up that claim, so consider yourself lucky you can get a good high off of it!

[kil0]

hip hip fuckin hurray! holy shit what a relief. This morning, I went to cvs and bought another drug test. I take it with my second piss of the day, around 9am, and I fucking fail it. I almost have a heart attack. I start gulping down water, fuck water intoxication, I rather die than go back to prison.

So at about 11am, I realize I got an hour to show up at my probation office or violate, and Im panicking. But I keep a cool head, and realize I probably failed because my system wasnt diluted. I go and buy another drug test after pissing like crazy for 2 hours. I take this final drug test at home, and if I fail it, might as well not go to my probation office because why the fuck would I go there to fail, its like turning myself in. I rather stay on the run than turn my self in.

but thank fuckin god I passed the second one, so I hurry to my probation office. I go in and take the test, and pass :D!! I was still worried because what if they had more accurate tests, but thank god again I was right and they use cheap ones like those you can buy at the store..

Im gonna smoke the fattest L later on in god's name, and thank the lord for not sending me to jail.................... im a happy motherfucker right now. But this month, I not gonna over do it fuck that its not worth the sleep I lost and the money I wasted. Im gonna smoke for like a week, and then quit! because Im sure if I give myself about 3 weeks, Im gonna be clean. But the test I took today I was clean for only 10 days!!

[neodude1212]

drug test. I take it with my second piss of the day, around 9am, and I fucking fail it. I almost have a heart attack. I start gulping down water, fuck water intoxication, I rather die than go back to prison.

So at about 11am, I realize I got an hour to show up at my probation office or violate, and Im panicking. But I keep a cool head, and realize I probably failed because my system wasnt diluted. I go and buy another drug test after pissing like crazy for 2 hours. I take this final drug test at home, and if I fail it, might as well not go to my probation office because why the fuck would I go there to fail, its like turning myself in. I rather stay on the run than turn my self in.

Im gonna smoke the fattest L later on in god's name, and thank the lord for not sending me to jail.................... im a happy motherfucker right now. But this month, I not gonna over do it fuck that its not worth the sleep I lost and the money I wasted. Im gonna smoke for like a week, and then quit! because Im sure if I give myself about 3 weeks, Im gonna be clean. But the test I took today I was clean for only 10 days!!


*shakes head*

[RELAYER]

told yall bout that water. works every time

[Feelings Of U4ia]

told yall bout that water. works every time

He, and you, are just lucky that you have probation offices that don't use standard testing.

Congrats on passing, but don't go smoke again, only to make yourself worry about this shit next time...

[kil0]

Im gonna smoke for 4 days, and have the rest of the month to get clean.

[RELAYER]

He, and you, are just lucky that you have probation offices that don't use standard testing.

Congrats on passing, but don't go smoke again, only to make yourself worry about this shit next time...

Yea I know. When I made the original post that we got so heated about against each other, I said if his test is just the cup, but I realize now that I wasnt explaining myself clearly. What I meant to say is that if his probation officer uses the cups that you sit and wait for 2-3 minutes while they let you know right then and there if you pass, the water dilution trick will work because they dont have the capability to see the water/toxins ratio in order to be able to tell that you diluted your test. If it's sent to a lab, they will find out and can force you to retest, because it will practically come up as if you just filled the cup with water from a faucet or the toilet bowl rather then give any urine sample.
When I was free and out of court and began my parole, August of last year, I came for my first visit on the very same day that they decided to switch to the cheap cups rather than lab test in order to save money (Philadelphia board of parole/probation is severly understaffed, overwhelmed with felons, and underfunded). So I got very lucky.
God Bless +