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ronnstangg
08-28-2008, 07:37 PM
My OC 80 source dried up.. Now I have been doing OC's for years and I am going into the bronx today to pick up some H. I know of 2 spots that are both extremely sketchy!!! Extremely!! Anyway I can snort 3-4 OC 80's in one sitting no prob. Any Idea what it might take with the H. I know it can be different purity but lets say some average stuff.. And will I feel the same as I do off H as I did on OC's... Thanks in advance for any responses....
-beatnick
08-29-2008, 01:46 AM
umm, do small lines and judge as you go. you don't want to overdue it and heroin is one of the most unpredicable drugs in terms of purity. so go easy and slow.
you will feel 1000X as good on heroin than oc. it just has like a "soul" high that no pills can get. after all, pills are only pills.
The Stig
08-29-2008, 05:40 AM
yea just sniff a bag see how you feel and work your way from there. you'll get a pretty good idea of how the bags are and how they affect you. sounds like if its good shit you'll be doin 3 or so to get nice and good. Enjoy the non-medical flavor its quite different altogether
Oxyrisin
08-29-2008, 07:24 PM
Make sure you read up on all this excellent advise on how to snort it and how to hold the straw.. There's some really good posts lately on how to do that.LOL:D Just some real remarkable information on these topics LOL:eek:
Oxyrisin
08-29-2008, 07:26 PM
umm, do small lines and judge as you go. you don't want to overdue it and heroin is one of the most unpredicable drugs in terms of purity. so go easy and slow.
you will feel 1000X as good on heroin than oc. it just has like a "soul" high that no pills can get. after all, pills are only pills.
^^Ya this is some good advise. I had a friend OD cause his new source had some bomb ass shit..
Be carefull and safe Bud
Pease
ronnstangg
08-29-2008, 07:43 PM
I mad it down to the boogie down last night and picked up 2 bundles for $160. They had a stamp with chineese writting on the bags. Woow.... Like I said 4 80's at once and I felt OK... I took your advice and did a few key bumps waited and did a few more. Well 3/4 of one bag and I was high as a kite. Nice body high. I cleaned my whole apt/car/and washed my dogs. Damn that shit was good. <edit> It is very sketchy though. and mad patty wagons and dt's all over. I would like to know where other people go. any way thanks for the advice fellows. Much appreciated..:cheers2:
Oxyrisin
08-29-2008, 07:46 PM
I mad it down to the boogie down last night and picked up 2 bundles for $160. They had a stamp with chineese writting on the bags. Woow.... Like I said 4 80's at once and I felt OK... I took your advice and did a few key bumps waited and did a few more. Well 3/4 of one bag and I was high as a kite. Nice body high. I cleaned my whole apt/car/and washed my dogs. Damn that shit was good. <edit> It is very sketchy though. and mad patty wagons and dt's all over. I would like to know where other people go. any way thanks for the advice fellows. Much appreciated..:cheers2:
LOL Cool man, I'm glad it all worked out for you.. I love it, I do the same thing when I snort some H. But I've only done it about a dozen times in 2 years:cheers2:
-beatnick
08-30-2008, 03:47 AM
haha, i'll give you a pm if i ever need that again.
but i live in brooklyn and i know that i just need to head to east new york or coney island would probably be easier.
navajas
08-30-2008, 04:13 AM
haha, i'll give you a pm if i ever need that again.
but i live in brooklyn and i know that i just need to head to east new york or coney island would probably be easier.
bro if i went to NY for a vacation would findin h and c be easy?
-beatnick
08-30-2008, 04:15 AM
yea, i guess, if you knew where to go. which would be the ghettos and hoods. here are some: south bronx, upper manhattan, northeast brooklyn, deep queens, etc.
Psychonaut420
09-03-2008, 02:30 AM
I just tried H for the first time today and I have to say that I like it :) It usualy takes me 1.5-2 80's to feel good ($90-$120), but me and my girl split a 1/4 bag today ($40) and it worked out nicely. In my oppinion its a more smooth and mellow high than OC ... and way more economical.
-beatnick
09-03-2008, 04:07 AM
oh. my. god. you got ripped the fuck off. a bag is never supposed to cost over $20.
but yea, in the end, pills are pills. heroin is another level.
navajas
09-03-2008, 05:41 AM
yea, i guess, if you knew where to go. which would be the ghettos and hoods. here are some: south bronx, upper manhattan, northeast brooklyn, deep queens, etc.
a tourist in ny ghettos, i smell a bad ending here... fuck it, im sick of goin to canada everytime i wanna get high, i have this rule that i only get high on vacations so i never get addicted, n i always go to canada cuz i used to live there n knw alotta connections... its gettin boaring..
-beatnick
09-03-2008, 05:44 AM
well i mean, thats where the ill deals are. but you could find someone pretty easily in the village, tons of junkies there too.
Euphorial
09-03-2008, 06:50 AM
Man, the problem is that my friends (who have used shrooms, lsd, X, oxy, hydros, and a shitload of drugs) would never let me get my hands on H. Even if you need less and its more economical, I think that's exactly what they're scared to let me have :D
Psychonaut420
09-08-2008, 04:02 AM
oh. my. god. you got ripped the fuck off. a bag is never supposed to cost over $20.
but yea, in the end, pills are pills. heroin is another level.
Heh yea probably .. I'm just lucky to have even found it where I am .. very very rural Alabama :D
Navajas, where do u live?
sun, if you go to NY you'll have no problem finding anything. coke, crack, weed, x, heroin, even pcp. the only mission would be finding shit like shrooms and acid.
Shit man, straight up, I dont think heroin exists in Miami as crazy as that sounds. I been looking all over for that shit and all I can find is pills. I getting and new OC hook-up tomorrow, I hope he has good prices :)
Anyways, Im planning on going to North Jersey in december, Im told I should have no problem find some h up there, and that NY/NJ has some really good shit. The problem is getting my cousins to wanna try it, they'll probably freak out, and think Im a junky! WTF, and my cousin who lives up there loves coke, but I dont think it ever crossed his mind to try H.
navajas
09-08-2008, 07:46 AM
i live in the middle east, a country called jordan...
damn homie, like I knew you were middle eastern, but I thought u lived in Canada.
There must be some really fuckin great opium and heroin in Jordan right?
edit: damn yo, you could practically drive to Jerusalem and Egypt, thats dope!
navajas
09-08-2008, 08:03 AM
yeah i used to study in canada, now im back home... yeah we have alotta opium n heroin, but the dea here is unfuckwithable, n the penalties for getting caught r brutal, plus there r only 5 million people in my country, so the dea have a stong hold... however in egypt, morroco, lebanon, iran, afghanistan getting drugs is sooooo easy... what do u like about egypt and jerusalem?
fucking everthing! whata hell do u mean?!?!? Bro, Im dying to travel the world, and on the top of my list is the Pyramids in Egypt, and Solomon's temple in Jerusalem.
navajas
09-08-2008, 08:53 AM
difference between me n u is that id go to jerusalem to see al aqsa mosque ;)... btw have u ever heard of petra, google it, its one of the new 7th wonders of the world, its in my country, jordan, we also have the dead sea, its the lowest point on earth, n wadi rum is amazing, google them... countries worth visitin other than egypt are lebanon, dubai and morroco...
I'd love to visit the al aqsa mosque as well! personal question, you dont gotta answer if u dont want to. do you follow Islam? cuz lol, isnt everything in ur sig prohibited by the Quran? I guess except sex, but I assume marriage is required??
the dead sea is cool, thats where they found all those scrolls, the lost books of moses and the gospel of mary magdalene right?
im gonna look up the petra right now.
navajas
09-08-2008, 04:50 PM
I'd love to visit the al aqsa mosque as well! personal question, you dont gotta answer if u dont want to. do you follow Islam? cuz lol, isnt everything in ur sig prohibited by the Quran? I guess except sex, but I assume marriage is required??
the dead sea is cool, thats where they found all those scrolls, the lost books of moses and the gospel of mary magdalene right?
im gonna look up the petra right now.
im an atheist, however every thing in my sig is prohibited in all organized religions, not only in islam.. however some sufi muslims use hashish n opium... sufism is a mystic sect of islam, sort of like kaballah in judism. some sufi muslims claim that hashish is an alternative to alcohol, n can be used in meditation to reach higher states of enlightment... however generally it prohibited in islam...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/ava121/blah013.jpg?t=1220892491
i felt comfortable on this site i am going thru the stages of death and dying anyway those pics give you all the detais i have already organised and paid for the funeral
so, why did you send me messages about ayers rock and i was
your favourite "Australian your words in a message,not mine
and all of a sudden
i no longer have blood tests, take alot less of anti rejection
and other meds because i am in pallative care
no more renal consultion
i was trying to get out my stuffout of my system
it was a good idea to share the experience
maybe they will have more empathy,rathe than pity
or is some big joke lets piss someone off because you got bored
or a group of computer trolls bundled in a corner of the room
i havent re read the thread rightnow i am hurting) i just scrolled down real quick
oh, in sir charles gardiner hospital it is a horrible painting
and there is a huge plaque(nearly as big as the painting)
she did that to say thanks after i spent 5 months in hospital
the documents cann be made alot bigger,so you can see
navajas
09-08-2008, 08:20 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/ava121/blah013.jpg?t=1220892491
i felt comfortable on this site i am going thru the stages of death and dying anyway those pics give you all the detais i have already organised and paid for the funeral
so, why did you send me messages about ayers rock and i was
your favourite "Australian your words in a message,not mine
and all of a sudden
i no longer have blood tests, take alot less of anti rejection
and other meds because i am in pallative care
no more renal consultion
i was trying to get out my stuffout of my system
it was a good idea to share the experience
maybe they will have more empathy,rathe than pity
or is some big joke lets piss someone off because you got bored
or a group of computer trolls bundled in a corner of the room
i havent re read the thread rightnow i am hurting) i just scrolled down real quick
oh, in sir charles gardiner hospital it is a horrible painting
and there is a huge plaque(nearly as big as the painting)
she did that to say thanks after i spent 5 months in hospital
the documents cann be made alot bigger,so you can see
what?
damn ava, you got some balls of steel. Its an honor to have you post here.
navajas
09-08-2008, 09:56 PM
damn ava, you got some balls of steel. Its an honor to have you post here.
i dnt understand... whats up?
ava is dying soon, I guess her doctor already told her. and all she has is a sense of humor. shit, I dont know how I would react to some news like that, although I assume it would involve a lot of weed and heroin lol
Ganja man
09-24-2008, 10:53 PM
snort a bump about the size of a matchstick head every 15-30mins until you feel it
CSU_Student
09-24-2008, 11:08 PM
So ronnstangg (http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/member.php?u=121382), it's been damn near a month... how's the H?!?! Are you still with us?
ronnstangg
09-25-2008, 10:44 PM
Hey things have been working out good. I have been on bit of a break after 3 straight weeks of hitting the brown sweet powder. I have been off now for a few days. I am heading back down to the bronx in 20 min though. I am going to the same spot as always. nice consistant bags. last time I went the weight was nice to. Thanks for asking. Its nice to know some out there is asking. Thanks CSU... I take it your in Cali
navajas
09-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Hey things have been working out good. I have been on bit of a break after 3 straight weeks of hitting the brown sweet powder. I have been off now for a few days. I am heading back down to the bronx in 20 min though. I am going to the same spot as always. nice consistant bags. last time I went the weight was nice to. Thanks for asking. Its nice to know some out there is asking. Thanks CSU... I take it your in Cali
What drugs do most bronx dealers usually carry? Like what r u guranteed to find there? What about the ghettos of Cali for people livin there?
-beatnick
09-26-2008, 03:10 AM
^ in the bronx primarily heroin + crack + coke. if you're lucky you can get pcp, lsd, and some other stuff. but the first three are always around. this is according to shocbomb.
ronnstangg
09-26-2008, 10:30 PM
Most spots in the bronx sell Crack Coke & Weed. The H spots are different. meaning they have to know you., most of the spots I go to anyway. There is also a spot off Fordam that used to sell the best Mesc around. I am not going to give any names out but I am sure Shocbomb knows it since we are the same age. From his posts, we were into the same thing at the same time getting in the Bronx. Shit we probably crossed paths a few times.
Anyway getting back into the street scene in the Bronx lately it has not changed that much. Don't get me wrong its not the same as it was 10 years ago but shits still out there. I know of a pretty decent spot in a reletivly good area that sells some great Hydro. They call everything Hydro down there. But on that same street they also sell crack all over.
Like I said I was heading down to the spot yesterday and ended up picking up at anew spot recommended by a guy I know. They were selling stamps of "Monopoly" and "No.1" The Monolopy was great but still did not beat the Kung Foo chineese letter stuff. You have to see this stuff. Its got to be close to 80% pure or something. I don't know its just my opinion. You guys let me know.
Feelings Of U4ia
09-27-2008, 07:20 AM
My OC 80 source dried up.. Now I have been doing OC's for years and I am going into the bronx today to pick up some H. I know of 2 spots that are both extremely sketchy!!! Extremely!! Anyway I can snort 3-4 OC 80's in one sitting no prob. Any Idea what it might take with the H. I know it can be different purity but lets say some average stuff.. And will I feel the same as I do off H as I did on OC's... Thanks in advance for any responses....
How is the high compared to Oxy? Just wondering because I take about the same dose of Oxy as you do.
The Stig
09-28-2008, 05:42 AM
How is the high compared to Oxy? Just wondering because I take about the same dose of Oxy as you do.
(I'm in a similar dose range) it's a lot more mellow, relaxed. I feel like 80's get me jammed up and more twitchy but dope just really mellows you out and numbs your ass to everything. Also I have never nodded on OC like I can with H, regardless of how much OC I've done. H is much more likely to put you in a state of drifting off to sleep/heaven and constantly snapping back to being awake. To me more of an ultimate relaxation and physically just the biggest warmest bear hug you could ever imagine. The come on is stronger then OC and more intense to me, more a sense of just being really fucked up then I get with oxy.
MagicSwhirlingShip
09-30-2008, 07:10 AM
Navajas just to set things straight the Kaballah is the Jewish book of mysticism(explaining the orgins of the universe and life) and though not every jew studies it just as not every jew studies every jewish scroll like the talmud ect the book though is not a seperate sect. There is a little truth behind this though because some people who arnt jew's strictly make a religion of following the Kaballah(theres some pretty intense shit in there though it really has to be read in hebrew it doesnt translate we'll which doesnt get the point across tho to me every book is better in hebrew) I forgot what the religions called I know mahdanna follows it tho.
navajas
09-30-2008, 12:14 PM
Navajas just to set things straight the Kaballah is the Jewish book of mysticism(explaining the orgins of the universe and life) and though not every jew studies it just as not every jew studies every jewish scroll like the talmud ect the book though is not a seperate sect. There is a little truth behind this though because some people who arnt jew's strictly make a religion of following the Kaballah(theres some pretty intense shit in there though it really has to be read in hebrew it doesnt translate we'll which doesnt get the point across tho to me every book is better in hebrew) I forgot what the religions called I know mahdanna follows it tho.
i knw, i just wanted to make it simple so people would get what sufism is... i knw everything u said though...
-beatnick
09-30-2008, 07:00 PM
How is the high compared to Oxy? Just wondering because I take about the same dose of Oxy as you do.
lets just say that oxy after trying dope is like smoking regs as compared to piff. it just sucks, in every way.
you don't have to crush it, cheaper, so much fucking better its unbelievable in my opinion.
honestly, the only thing i'd say that compares to heroin is morphine, but heroin also has that "soul" high, which no pill or pharmaceutical will give you. end of story. dope is just like god in a powder form.
navajas
09-30-2008, 07:59 PM
lets just say that oxy after trying dope is like smoking regs as compared to piff. it just sucks, in every way.
you don't have to crush it, cheaper, so much fucking better its unbelievable in my opinion.
honestly, the only thing i'd say that compares to heroin is morphine, but heroin also has that "soul" high, which no pill or pharmaceutical will give you. end of story. dope is just like god in a powder form.
WOW! perfect description...
Shocbomb
09-30-2008, 10:14 PM
I just read the post man, And as someone who lives in upstate NY and has been going into NY city for years now sence high school ti get my drugs manily my coke/crack and dope just be careful man !!!! there is nothing worse then getting caught in NY city I mean nothing I would rather do 2 weeks in county jail then one fucking night in the tombs in central booking ! Hears some tips man to be make your trip to the city as safe as possibe and to lower to odds of getting caught. #1 and I mean this don't go into the bulidings to get you shit have the dealer eather 1 bring the shit out to you on the block or meat him somewhere like I do at a corner store, etc.One thing that a cop is trained to look for is a white boy going into a building and they know what you are doing and even if they don't find the shit on you or you don't have Anything you will get arrrested for criminal trespassing just for going into the building, And criminal trespassing is not no ticket you get arrested and sent to central booking and have to spend the night until court the next day. So try buy all means not to put your ass into that buildings and I know the dealers love doing the exchange in the buildings but 99% of the dealers will meet you if they have to also or do the deal around the block on the street. #2 This is such a real easy thing that most people don't do eather and I don't know why.Hide the shit good on you so many people just put the shit in there pocket or cig pack or they think its hidden good when its in your balls or socks or some hidden pocket in your jacket and that the cops won't look there for it well 99% of cops will look in your socks down your pants at your balls and for hidden pcokets in your jacket. The best place I have found after all these years and I know the one is nasty is eather hollow out the rubber under youe shoe and put the shit inside the rubber under your shoe on the sole and #2 its nasty but works to the shit in your ass hole the old drug suitcase. I have had cops searh me countless times and never find my shit in there. Its nasty I know but its beter then going to jail just make sure you wrap it up good use a few cellophanes from your cig pack or something like that and you are god to go.#3 and this was one when I was younger that we always use to get caught don't have a car load of dam white Kids if the cops see a car in the Ghetto packed with white kids they know dam well what you are doing. Try to keep it as least people ass possible if its more then 2 of you drop a few kids off somewhere at a Gas station or something before you go to the spot. You will look alot less obvious with the less people you have in the car and make sure if you are wearing ball caps or hats you take them off you make your self look older with your hats off anf less like a kid there to buy drugs.These are just some of the things I can htink of off the top of my head to make your trip into NY City that much more safe that you will not get caught. The bottom line is just be smart man and always ben on the look out for the TNT Aka Cops they drive all types of cars. Good luck man I know how its feels having to buy your shit in tht city if you have any questions please just ask me man.
PS- If any one else has good tips people can use when going to get there Shit in the Ghetto please post it - You know stuff like hidding spots, Best ways to stay out of the cops view,etc Who knows maybe one of those tips could be the difference the next time someone goes to buy thats they might not get caught ???
navajas
09-30-2008, 10:45 PM
I just read the post man, And as someone who lives in upstate NY and has been going into NY city for years now sence high school ti get my drugs manily my coke/crack and dope just be careful man !!!! there is nothing worse then getting caught in NY city I mean nothing I would rather do 2 weeks in county jail then one fucking night in the tombs in central booking ! Hears some tips man to be make your trip to the city as safe as possibe and to lower to odds of getting caught. #1 and I mean this don't go into the bulidings to get you shit have the dealer eather 1 bring the shit out to you on the block or meat him somewhere like I do at a corner store, etc.One thing that a cop is trained to look for is a white boy going into a building and they know what you are doing and even if they don't find the shit on you or you don't have Anything you will get arrrested for criminal trespassing just for going into the building, And criminal trespassing is not no ticket you get arrested and sent to central booking and have to spend the night until court the next day. So try buy all means not to put your ass into that buildings and I know the dealers love doing the exchange in the buildings but 99% of the dealers will meet you if they have to also or do the deal around the block on the street. #2 This is such a real easy thing that most people don't do eather and I don't know why.Hide the shit good on you so many people just put the shit in there pocket or cig pack or they think its hidden good when its in your balls or socks or some hidden pocket in your jacket and that the cops won't look there for it well 99% of cops will look in your socks down your pants at your balls and for hidden pcokets in your jacket. The best place I have found after all these years and I know the one is nasty is eather hollow out the rubber under youe shoe and put the shit inside the rubber under your shoe on the sole and #2 its nasty but works to the shit in your ass hole the old drug suitcase. I have had cops searh me countless times and never find my shit in there. Its nasty I know but its beter then going to jail just make sure you wrap it up good use a few cellophanes from your cig pack or something like that and you are god to go.#3 and this was one when I was younger that we always use to get caught don't have a car load of dam white Kids if the cops see a car in the Ghetto packed with white kids they know dam well what you are doing. Try to keep it as least people ass possible if its more then 2 of you drop a few kids off somewhere at a Gas station or something before you go to the spot. You will look alot less obvious with the less people you have in the car and make sure if you are wearing ball caps or hats you take them off you make your self look older with your hats off anf less like a kid there to buy drugs.These are just some of the things I can htink of off the top of my head to make your trip into NY City that much more safe that you will not get caught. The bottom line is just be smart man and always ben on the look out for the TNT Aka Cops they drive all types of cars. Good luck man I know how its feels having to buy your shit in tht city if you have any questions please just ask me man.
PS- If any one else has good tips people can use when going to get there Shit in the Ghetto please post it - You know stuff like hidding spots, Best ways to stay out of the cops view,etc Who knows maybe one of those tips could be the difference the next time someone goes to buy thats they might not get caught ???
shocbomb in ny ghettos what drugs r u guranteed to find? i mean what do the majority of dealers usually carry there? what sells the best in ghettos?
Shocbomb
09-30-2008, 11:00 PM
9/10 navajas if you go into the Ghetto's the 5 most common drugs you will find are Herion,Crack,Coke,AngelDust/PCP, and Weed, CRack and weed being the 2 most I mean crack is every where its buy far the #1 drug that makes money in th Ghetto.There is also alot more X that I have seen the last few years hitting street corners also it was not like that years ago I guess X is becoming very popular Ghetto drug ? As for drugs like Shrooms,Hits,Hash,Opium,Special K etc you can find them to but they are alot harder to find and its just not worth the time and bullshit your best bet is to just stick with the drugs you knwo are there.But like I said before some of the best paper hits I ever had were bought in the the Ghetto up in the Bronx, I also had a real good spot for in the Bronx for years when I was in highschool and in my early 20's that I went to that sold $10 bags of shrooms they were not the best most dank shrooms but they did the Job.But most of the times even if you do find some dealer on the corner who sells real hits to begin with they are eather going to be real real speedy or average at best same with the shrooms. That being said I would not go looking around your local Ghettos for drugs like hits,Shrooms,K etc Ghettos are where you go 99% of the time to find drugs like Herion,crack and weed !!!! If you want drugs like Hits,K,shrooms,Hash its better then find a dealer up in the suburbs or at shows or gatherings.
navajas
09-30-2008, 11:34 PM
9/10 navajas if you go into the Ghetto's the 5 most common drugs you will find are Herion,Crack,Coke,AngelDust/PCP, and Weed, There is also alot more X thats I have seen the last few years hitting street corners also. As for Shrooms,Hits,Hash,Opium,Special K etc you can find them to but they are alot harder to find, actually like I said before some of the best paper hits I ever had were bought in the the Ghetto up in the Bronx, I also had a real good spot for in the Bronx for years when I was in highschool and in my early 20's that I went to that sold $10 bags of shrooms they were not the best most dank shrooms but they did the Job.But most of the times even if you do find some dealer on the corner who sells real hits to begin with they are eather going to be real real speedy or average at best same with the shrooms. That being said I would not go looking around your local Ghettos for drugs like hits,Shrooms,K etc Ghettos are where you go 99% of the time to find drugs like Herion and crack !!!! If you want drugs like Hits,K,shrooms,Hash its better then find a dealer up in the suburbs or at shows or gatherings.
Thats pretty cool! actually the only drugs I care about are heroin/cocaine/pcp/weed... never tried pcp though however i like ketamine, which means id love pcp... so these are the ghetto drugs? Id love to go there n buy me a bundle of stamped bags of pure white heroin, an 8ball chunk of cocaine, an ounce of high grade bud and a stamped bag of bomb ass PCP and call it a night... is there high grade bud in ghettos or is it just nasty cheap shit? does cocaine come in stamped bags or only heroin and pcp? im comin to ny soon however im sure i wont got to the ghettos as a tourist :(
Shocbomb
09-30-2008, 11:53 PM
no they only drugs I know off that come in stamped bags are pcp and dope. As for coke/crack its eather in tin foil weighed out in grams or 9/10 when its bought on the street corner it comes in little bags like $10 and $20 bags etc Yeah dude don't even think about fucking around in the ghetto when you come hear on vacation thats just a disaster waiting to happen. It look me sometime to learn ow to buy my drugs off the street its usally not soemthing you can learn over night thats how bad shit happpens like getting arrested ripped off or worse yet getting robbed stabbed or shot. I learned how to buy my drugs and spot dealers buy just going into the Ghettos time and time again with older kids when I was in hig school who knew what to do and where to go. I use to wait in the car and I leanred over time and asked questions on what to do and where to go and how to spot the dealers now its just second nature I guess.
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