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trojanman22
08-27-2008, 10:09 PM
alright in the shortest way possible im gonna ask what could i switch to if oxy aint cutting it anymore. ive been doin it for about two years now and 100 mgs. at a time barely gets me high. its really starting to bug me. ive only done morphine a few times in the form of insufflated MS Contin so would morphine be a better choice if OXY aint getting me high?

CSU_Student
08-27-2008, 10:44 PM
Ya' might wanna try rehab bro'... if your that deep, its not going to get any better... just worse... take a break, then your tolerance will go down. Only advice to give...

jaredfelix
08-27-2008, 10:47 PM
yeah, man you really need to try and ween off by taking less and less and less every other day to avoid withdrawal.
if you keep up at where you're at you could end up in serious trouble.

Euphorial
08-27-2008, 11:44 PM
Hold yourself off to every other day at a slightly smaller dose (this should be easy).

After doing that for only a short duration continue by increasing the gap, along with slightly decreasing the dosage. If you do this for long enough (and follow the increase in gap rule) you will lower your tolerance and avoid withdrawal.

I warn you that it will take mild willpower and a substantial amount of time.

Have fun being able to get high again once your done with my boot camp :cheers2:

TooCrisp
08-28-2008, 04:05 AM
alright in the shortest way possible im gonna ask what could i switch to if oxy aint cutting it anymore. ive been doin it for about two years now and 100 mgs. at a time barely gets me high. its really starting to bug me. ive only done morphine a few times in the form of insufflated MS Contin so would morphine be a better choice if OXY aint getting me high?

sorry to say pal but all opiates exhibit cross-tolerance. You're massive tolerance with oxy means you will not get high on other opiates, and if oxy aint doin it, MS contin sure as he*ll will not. There is only one step up from Oxy, we all know what it is. DON'T GO NEAR IT. If you're life isn't already ruined, it will be.

Seems to me that you've already taken it to the extreme. Man, you have to understand that there is no joy in these things past a certain point. Then the negative just overwhelms any little short high you get. You just sound like you're chasing an elusive feeling that you will never get from a drug. Cause that sh*ts just temporary and always goes away.

You're mindset is scary and is one of a junky who will be dead in no time. instead of looking for a stronger harder drug, you're post should be "100mg of oxy doesn't get me high anymore, i need help, i want to quit" that is what you should be thinking brother.

I see your path and it don't end well. Thing is, it's still in your power today to control it if you want it bad enough.

kil0
08-28-2008, 04:19 AM
sorry to say pal but all opiates exhibit cross-tolerance. You're massive tolerance with oxy means you will not get high on other opiates, and if oxy aint doin it, MS contin sure as he*ll will not. There is only one step up from Oxy, we all know what it is. DON'T GO NEAR IT. If you're life isn't already ruined, it will be.

Seems to me that you've already taken it to the extreme. Man, you have to understand that there is no joy in these things past a certain point. Then the negative just overwhelms any little short high you get. You just sound like you're chasing an elusive feeling that you will never get from a drug. Cause that sh*ts just temporary and always goes away.

You're mindset is scary and is one of a junky who will be dead in no time. instead of looking for a stronger harder drug, you're post should be "100mg of oxy doesn't get me high anymore, i need help, i want to quit" that is what you should be thinking brother.

I see your path and it don't end well. Thing is, it's still in your power today to control it if you want it bad enough.
cheers on the good advice :cheers2:

jo_k_er_man
08-28-2008, 04:43 AM
This man wants answers!

I'd say heroin.. or if you don't wanna do that extreme.. Dilaudid.. or Fentanyl...

jaredfelix
08-28-2008, 04:48 AM
ha, if quitting aint an option, heroin is the best...

-beatnick
08-28-2008, 05:11 AM
yea, look into quitting dude. if its not doing anything to you, why waste your money?

but if you still want to get high and go down that road, heroin and fentanyl will knock you on your ass. but i don't recommend furthering this development.

jaredfelix
08-28-2008, 05:14 AM
fentanyl patches did shit for me, you've got to cut them open and put the gel under your tongue

rastapasta
08-28-2008, 05:17 AM
parties that dont end suck. take a break.

jo_k_er_man
08-28-2008, 05:19 AM
is it really a party anymore if it never ends? wouldn't it just be everyday life?

jaredfelix
08-28-2008, 05:25 AM
^ you're both correct, sadly

Guitar
08-28-2008, 08:10 AM
Yea man your next step is trying heroin, then Shooting up heroin, and then just another junkie. I suggest you get on suboxone , and try and quit the habit

CSU_Student
08-28-2008, 06:37 PM
Seriosly, I know your not going to listen to ANY of this advice cause your like us, you don't want to quit, cause of reasons to your own... so I guess, sadly H is your next bet, but remember this, your will be sticking your leg directly into the coffin and you might as well start filling the dirt cause this won't end good for you. So if you want to be a junkie, go for it, ruin your family's life and your friends. Otherwise, take some time and ween yourself down, THEN get back to 100mg a dose and you should start to feel the effects.

SUCK IT UP!!! Take the pain, stop being a pussy, be a man and go a couple days without any (or very small amounts), withdrawl a little bit(this will also maybe change your mind about H, cause W-L sucks life outa you), THEN, if you want, go back to your old amount and you'll be back to opiate heavan... Everyone has done it, and has to at some point... suck it up soldier...

And it's not like your the only one with this... WE ALL have gone through withdrawl and these processes to keep our tolerance at a euphoric level... so listen to us, your gut feelings and do this!!!

Natas666
08-29-2008, 02:49 AM
Your on the road to self destruction, opiates are not worth losing oneself over.Take a break slowly, then get an adrenaline based sport to "fix" your receptors for awhile.Then if you must, start over.I just got a chronic pain condition and was at first happy to have the scripts, but the worry that the doctor will cut you off, the pain and the tolerance are not worth it.I would rather be clean and not hurting.Enough lecturing and I hope you find what your looking for.

trojanman22
08-31-2008, 09:52 AM
for some reason it was just that day i posted i wasnt gettin high. now 100 mgs of it gets me higher than a kite. its still trips me out, maybe i was just having a bad day?

salmon4me
08-31-2008, 10:55 AM
Maybe it was foreshadowing, and you should quit before you truly get there (and I suppose you will...get there).

trojanman22
08-31-2008, 11:50 PM
im gonna take a month break to get my tolerance down. ive got k-pins and ambien to help with the 3 days of w/d that always happens. luckily i never have the full on 10 days of w/d like some people do.

Euphorial
09-01-2008, 12:46 AM
Good luck with that :cheers2: If you start after that month it would be really good to never go over once or twice per week from then on.

Guitar
09-01-2008, 09:59 AM
Shit man if you actually quit for 30 days, why would you go back? Once your an addict, its hard to go back to once a week, unless youve quit for a very long time. Maybe get a couple of suboxones too, get 2 8mg ones, and ween yourself down from them for a week or two.

Eagles06
09-02-2008, 06:24 AM
[quote=TooCrisp;4649915]sorry to say pal but all opiates exhibit cross-tolerance. You're massive tolerance with oxy means you will not get high on other opiates, and if oxy aint doin it, MS contin sure as he*ll will not. There is only one step up from Oxy, we all know what it is. DON'T GO NEAR IT. If you're life isn't already ruined, it will be. [quote]

He is right, it's exaclty what happened to me, and eve if 100 mg is getting you high again, you will eventually switch to H unless you are very rich. Take someone on this threads advice, whether it be methadone or suboxone or go into detox/rehab(best idea) I'm goin back this week, do simething before you make the switch. Good Luck.