cheap spice alikes?

[outlawed]

has any1 ever tried this splice stuff?
http://www.internationaloddities.com/splice.asp

or space stuff?
http://www.headynugs.com/space3x.html

Im guessing the gold and platnum are suposed to be on par with spice gold and diamond, and the xxx and xxxx of theese to pruducts are suposed to be chillin xxx, toke xxx, or skunk.

Has any1 here tried any of these?
if there as good as the real spice than its probly the best prices on the net for the U.S.

[-Q-]

outlawed,

I just tried the space stuff
http://www.headynugs.com/space3x.html it came with a 1g sample of space rocks, which is good because I was going to try that next.

Anyway, neither of those from HDN are worth their cheap prices. It takes at Least 2x as much of the incense to achieve anything, and then that mild sensation goes away way too fast and leaves you with just a headache and your lungs hurting. The Space Rocks are way too sweet! smells/tastes like patchoulli? It's like being in an incense shop.

I'm not going to chance space platinum, since I like the effects of the XXX blends better than the couch locked spice-goldish feeling anyway. Speaking of the spice-gold-like effects - can't get off the couch to save your A$$, go for the new Yucatan Fire or the Spike99 blends. Both will knock you over.

Back to your post - I am still willing to try the splice XXXX, but not getting my hopes up.

I read a ton of reviews on another forum and am excited to try Sacred Journey and Inner Voyage from LHS.

I guess once you have Chillin XXX as a comparison, the playing field narrows considerably!
Where do you find toke XXX and skunk?? I'm constantly browsing sites, googling, checking forums, etc to find the REAL potent blends (for the best price, no doubt), but there's so many ineffective blends out there to muddy the waters.


The blends that reviewed poorly at LHS were much more prevalent than the good ones. i.e. basically reviewed as "0 effects" are:
African Sunset (Regular)
African Sunset (Xtreme)
Astral Smoke (Enhanced)
Astral Smoke (Regular)
Aurora Lights
Caribbean Crystal Buds
Happy Hydro
Hawaiian Hydro
Herbo X
Hydro Blunt
Nirvana Buds
Ibiza Buds
Jamaican Haze
Kali Scunk
Karo Buds
Nirvana Buds
Sacred Tribe
Shaman Gold
Thai Crystal

I'm compiling a list of viable vendors and their good products. It's difficult to find the best blends for around (hopefully less than) $10/g... I'll try to find a good place to post my findings. ( I have nowhere near the required posts to be allowed to "review" products, but being a connoisseur of the aromatic incense for a year and a half now, I've tried quite a few )


take care,
-Q-

[dark disaster99]

you should go with ex ses platinum. It's pretty much the exact same thing as spike99 which despite people saying great things about xxx chillin, dream, pep-spice, etc... is my favorite blend by far.

Spike 99 will rip you better than spice diamond and its on everyonedoesit as ex ses platinum for 30 dollars/3g under the category am-hi-co legals.

[Geneity]

Or you could just buy synthetic cannabinoids. Much cheaper.

[CircaX43521]

African Sunset (Regular)
African Sunset (Xtreme)
Astral Smoke (Enhanced)
Astral Smoke (Regular)
Aurora Lights
Caribbean Crystal Buds
Happy Hydro
Hawaiian Hydro
Herbo X
Hydro Blunt
Nirvana Buds
Ibiza Buds
Jamaican Haze
Kali Scunk
Karo Buds
Nirvana Buds
Sacred Tribe
Shaman Gold
Thai Crystal

you put the same thing twice.

I don't know why I pointed this out, I just noticed it and thought I should tell you.

[Whoyoucantsee]

So all this stuff is is a mix of dagga, lions tail, indian warior, or elephant, etc. basically just the natural bulk ethno-herbs you can buy online right?

why not just research the herbs online and create your own similar blends? or better?

this stuff really is effective that you buy online? to a pot smoker of course.

[Geneity]

Well not really. That's why a lot of people speculate if there are synthetic cannabinoids or some sort of strange drug in the blends.

[Whoyoucantsee]

Looking into the stuff further, i would think not only do they contain all or most of the known "effective" smokeable herbs, but also the herb itself might have been treated with something as you say, like synth-cannaboinoids.

There are methods around the net on how to "enhance" your smokable herbs by seeping them into a solution of acetone/alcohol/ether and plant concentrate/resin/etc, containing multiple alkaloids or effective chemicals from other plants or combination of plants.

This wuold seem plausible, because most plant alkaloids can be extracted and intensified then added to leaf/plant material. only a lab might be able to test such things.

does anyoen else think this?


Examples:

Dagga leaf+ indian warrior, sun opener+ kratom or datura extract tincture 20X= good shit

[Geneity]

Datura 20x? Who would do that!? Is it standardized? Or did you make it?

[Whoyoucantsee]

im just giving a figure lol, but basically anything concentrated that has sedating or uplifting effects.

[Geneity]

I've wondered that too. If you have like 100x plant extracts of multiple plants then it's bound to get you some sort of high....

[Whoyoucantsee]

When i get paid im going to be buing a bit of everything, dagga, skullcap, indian warrior, elephant, kratom etc. all the known active ingredients, as well as enhance my own smoke with san pedro extract or hermaline or something unique along the lines of "trippy" in effects. Im capable of synthing most known alkaloidal extracts, so i feel that i will have enough to play with to experiment. only roadblock is getting paid soon! lol

Would it be possible to reproduce my own versions of herbal blends, containing only 100% legal herbs and tincs or resins. could i sell them to a smoke shop? who in turn sell my product? (not containing the synthed cannabinoids/DMT/hermaline/LSA etc.)

[Geneity]

You could. Probably. But that's a lot of work. I'd sell it myself.